downloading current page in lynx the cat

downloading current page in lynx the cat

[Gregory Nowak]

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Hi all.

I've been looking through the lynx man page, and the help file, but
can't find what I'm looking for.

I know that hitting d on a link you're pointing to will download that
link for you. However, say I'm currently sitting on a html page, and
want to download it to save to my hard drive, just as if I had been
pointing to it, and used the d option. Is there a way to do this? Thanks in advance.

Greg


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Re: downloading current page in lynx the cat

[Cheryl Homiak]

The only way I've found of doing this is to bookmark the page; then go to 
it in the bookmark file and press "d". I'd also be interested to know if 
there's another way.
Hth.


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"Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."

Re: downloading current page in lynx the cat

[Jim Danley]

You want the p (as in print) option.

	Jim


On Sat, Jul 17, 2004 at 11:00:56AM -0500, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> Hi all.
> 
> I've been looking through the lynx man page, and the help file, but
> can't find what I'm looking for.
> 
> I know that hitting d on a link you're pointing to will download that
> link for you. However, say I'm currently sitting on a html page, and
> want to download it to save to my hard drive, just as if I had been
> pointing to it, and used the d option. Is there a way to do this? Thanks in advance.
> 
> Greg

Re: downloading current page in lynx the cat

[Gregory Nowak]

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No, I don't, since as far as I can tell, that will give me a text
version of the page, and what I want is the actual html.

Greg


On Sat, Jul 17, 2004 at 11:44:52AM -0500, Jim Danley wrote:
> You want the p (as in print) option.
> 
> 	Jim
> 
> 

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Re: downloading current page in lynx the cat

[Ari Moisio]

Hi!

  One  way is to see source with \ and then print->save to local file


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On Sat, 17 Jul 2004, Gregory Nowak wrote:

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> Hi all.
>
> I've been looking through the lynx man page, and the help file, but
> can't find what I'm looking for.
>
> I know that hitting d on a link you're pointing to will download that
> link for you. However, say I'm currently sitting on a html page, and
> want to download it to save to my hard drive, just as if I had been
> pointing to it, and used the d option. Is there a way to do this? Thanks in advance.
>
> Greg
>
>
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Re: downloading current page in lynx the cat

[Cheryl Homiak]

Hmm, I'm not sure; I'm aware of the print command but does print really 
give you the same results as download?


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"Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."

Re: downloading current page in lynx the cat

[Gregory Nowak]

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Thanks, that does the job indeed.

Greg


On Sat, Jul 17, 2004 at 08:33:40PM +0300, Ari Moisio wrote:
> Hi!
> 
>   One  way is to see source with \ and then print->save to local file
> 
> 
> -- 
> arimo
> 

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Re: downloading current page in lynx the cat

[Cheryl Homiak]

Hey, thanks. That's even maybe a little bit faster than bookmarking and
downloading from the bookmark link; one less step in a way.

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Cheryl

"Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."

Re: downloading current page in lynx the cat

[Ralph W. Reid]

Perhaps the following steps are what you are looking for:

1.  While the desired page is being displayed, press the backslash (\)
key to get the html source.

2.  While the html source is being displayed, press 'p' to print the
current document.

3.  Select the option to print the document to a file (probably the
first option on the menu).

4.  Modify the default file name if desired, and hit the enter key to
save the file to your disk.

5.  To return to the html source document, you may need to hit the
left arrow key, as though you were returning to a previous document.
Once at the html source document, press the backslash key (\) again to
bring back the rendered document.

HTH, and have a _great_ day!

On Sat, Jul 17, 2004 at 11:00:56AM -0500, Gregory Nowak wrote:
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> Hi all.
> 
> I've been looking through the lynx man page, and the help file, but
> can't find what I'm looking for.
> 
> I know that hitting d on a link you're pointing to will download that
> link for you. However, say I'm currently sitting on a html page, and
> want to download it to save to my hard drive, just as if I had been
> pointing to it, and used the d option. Is there a way to do this? Thanks in advance.
> 
> Greg

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A good synth?

[Sina Bahram]

Hi guys,

I need a good hardware synth. My employer is willing to spend around 300
bucks or so....I need it to work with a variety of linux apps, like SpeakUP
for sure, and possibly EmacSpeak as well. Also anything else that uses a
hardware synth if that's possible.

What's a good one people? In my opinion the DoubleTalk's quality is just
*shutter* but if that's the best for that price range, I guess I'll have to
go with that.

Thank you all for any replies.

Take care,
Sina

Re: A good synth?

[nick G]

That's as good as it gets.  Doubletalk is second only to dectalk in the
hardware arena in my opinion.
Thanks,
Nick
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@nc.rr.com>
To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'"
<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 11:05 AM
Subject: A good synth?


> Hi guys,
>
> I need a good hardware synth. My employer is willing to spend around 300
> bucks or so....I need it to work with a variety of linux apps, like
SpeakUP
> for sure, and possibly EmacSpeak as well. Also anything else that uses a
> hardware synth if that's possible.
>
> What's a good one people? In my opinion the DoubleTalk's quality is just
> *shutter* but if that's the best for that price range, I guess I'll have
to
> go with that.
>
> Thank you all for any replies.
>
> Take care,
> Sina
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: A good synth?

[Gregory Nowak]

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I believe the only thing available for that  kind of money is the
doubletalk, of course, you might be able to get something else that's
used for that price.

Greg


On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 11:05:09AM -0400, Sina Bahram wrote:
> Hi guys,
> 
> I need a good hardware synth. My employer is willing to spend around 300
> bucks or so....I need it to work with a variety of linux apps, like SpeakUP
> for sure, and possibly EmacSpeak as well. Also anything else that uses a
> hardware synth if that's possible.
> 
> What's a good one people? In my opinion the DoubleTalk's quality is just
> *shutter* but if that's the best for that price range, I guess I'll have to
> go with that.
> 
> Thank you all for any replies.
> 
> Take care,
> Sina
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 
> !DSPAM:40fbe88216896101734977!
> 
> 

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RE: A good synth?

[Sina Bahram]

Are you serious? Wow, I thought DoubleTalk had to be the worst one
ever....that's sad that hardware synths are so bad....

Thanks for your reply

Take care,
Sina

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of nick G
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 11:32 AM
To: sbahram@nc.rr.com; Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: A good synth?


That's as good as it gets.  Doubletalk is second only to dectalk in the
hardware arena in my opinion. Thanks, Nick
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@nc.rr.com>
To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'"
<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 11:05 AM
Subject: A good synth?


> Hi guys,
>
> I need a good hardware synth. My employer is willing to spend around 
> 300 bucks or so....I need it to work with a variety of linux apps, 
> like
SpeakUP
> for sure, and possibly EmacSpeak as well. Also anything else that uses 
> a hardware synth if that's possible.
>
> What's a good one people? In my opinion the DoubleTalk's quality is 
> just
> *shutter* but if that's the best for that price range, I guess I'll have
to
> go with that.
>
> Thank you all for any replies.
>
> Take care,
> Sina
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca 
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup


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RE: A good synth?

[Will Smith]

All synthethic speech is subject to individual taste.

For instance, contrary to your opinion, I find Dubltalk the most useful 
speech I've ever found for fast and clear reading.  I use it over any and 
all other speech, including Dec talk in any version.

There is not one rightspeech package for blind folks.  It's subject to 
individual taste and one's actual practices, as for instance in my case 
reading fast and understanding everything.

Will
wilsmith@iglou.com
  On Mon, 19 Jul 2004, Sina 
Bahram wrote:

> Are you serious? Wow, I thought DoubleTalk had to be the worst one
> ever....that's sad that hardware synths are so bad....
>
> Thanks for your reply
>
> Take care,
> Sina
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of nick G
> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 11:32 AM
> To: sbahram@nc.rr.com; Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: A good synth?
>
>
> That's as good as it gets.  Doubletalk is second only to dectalk in the
> hardware arena in my opinion. Thanks, Nick
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@nc.rr.com>
> To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'"
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 11:05 AM
> Subject: A good synth?
>
>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I need a good hardware synth. My employer is willing to spend around
>> 300 bucks or so....I need it to work with a variety of linux apps,
>> like
> SpeakUP
>> for sure, and possibly EmacSpeak as well. Also anything else that uses
>> a hardware synth if that's possible.
>>
>> What's a good one people? In my opinion the DoubleTalk's quality is
>> just
>> *shutter* but if that's the best for that price range, I guess I'll have
> to
>> go with that.
>>
>> Thank you all for any replies.
>>
>> Take care,
>> Sina
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
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>

Re: A good synth?

[Gregory Nowak]

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I have to agree with Nick here. I think the doubletalk is the best
synth I've heard to date. I even think it sounds better then the
dectalk, though that maybe because I've used a doubletalk for about 6
years now, compared to infrequently working with a dectalk, for an
hour or less at a time, and there weren't many of those times.

Greg


On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 12:01:57PM -0400, Sina Bahram wrote:
> Are you serious? Wow, I thought DoubleTalk had to be the worst one
> ever....that's sad that hardware synths are so bad....
> 
> Thanks for your reply
> 
> Take care,
> Sina
> 

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RE: A good synth?

[Sina Bahram]

Hi Will,

This is weird...I have received your message and also Gregorie's twice....is
there something with SpeakUP list or me?

Take care,
Sina

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Will Smith
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 12:32 PM
To: sbahram@nc.rr.com; Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: RE: A good synth?


All synthethic speech is subject to individual taste.

For instance, contrary to your opinion, I find Dubltalk the most useful 
speech I've ever found for fast and clear reading.  I use it over any and 
all other speech, including Dec talk in any version.

There is not one rightspeech package for blind folks.  It's subject to 
individual taste and one's actual practices, as for instance in my case 
reading fast and understanding everything.

Will
wilsmith@iglou.com
  On Mon, 19 Jul 2004, Sina 
Bahram wrote:

> Are you serious? Wow, I thought DoubleTalk had to be the worst one 
> ever....that's sad that hardware synths are so bad....
>
> Thanks for your reply
>
> Take care,
> Sina
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca 
> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of nick G
> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 11:32 AM
> To: sbahram@nc.rr.com; Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: A good synth?
>
>
> That's as good as it gets.  Doubletalk is second only to dectalk in 
> the hardware arena in my opinion. Thanks, Nick
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@nc.rr.com>
> To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'" 
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 11:05 AM
> Subject: A good synth?
>
>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I need a good hardware synth. My employer is willing to spend around 
>> 300 bucks or so....I need it to work with a variety of linux apps, 
>> like
> SpeakUP
>> for sure, and possibly EmacSpeak as well. Also anything else that 
>> uses a hardware synth if that's possible.
>>
>> What's a good one people? In my opinion the DoubleTalk's quality is 
>> just
>> *shutter* but if that's the best for that price range, I guess I'll 
>> have
> to
>> go with that.
>>
>> Thank you all for any replies.
>>
>> Take care,
>> Sina
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca 
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca 
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca 
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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Re: A good synth?

[nick G]

Just wish I could own one...hahahaha.  I use an Accent SA with speakup.
Thanks,
Nick
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From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>
To: <sbahram@nc.rr.com>; "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: A good synth?


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> I have to agree with Nick here. I think the doubletalk is the best
> synth I've heard to date. I even think it sounds better then the
> dectalk, though that maybe because I've used a doubletalk for about 6
> years now, compared to infrequently working with a dectalk, for an
> hour or less at a time, and there weren't many of those times.
>
> Greg
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 12:01:57PM -0400, Sina Bahram wrote:
> > Are you serious? Wow, I thought DoubleTalk had to be the worst one
> > ever....that's sad that hardware synths are so bad....
> >
> > Thanks for your reply
> >
> > Take care,
> > Sina
> >
>
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Re: A good synth?

[Gregory Nowak]

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The way your reply to field seems to be set, is that when somebody replies to
you, they reply both to you and to the list. So, you're probably
getting 2 replies, because one comes to you, and the other comes to
the list, which you also get.

Greg


On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 01:06:54PM -0400, Sina Bahram wrote:
> Hi Will,
> 
> This is weird...I have received your message and also Gregorie's twice....is
> there something with SpeakUP list or me?
> 
> Take care,
> Sina
> 

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RE: A good synth?

[Erik Heil]

No, its not weird.  This is because he sent a CC to your e-mail address.

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Phone: (865) 673-0542

Re: A good synth?

[Steve Holmes]

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Hey no! I don't personally own a Double Talk but when I've heard them
in the past, they began to grow on me.  Personally, I use a Speakout
from GW Micro but first of all and very unfortunately they have
stopped production as with so many hardware synths and second, when
they were sold, they went for something like $695 or so.  It is/was a
very fast and pretty easy to understand at those high speeds and best
of all, it does *NOT* force abbreviations down your throat like so
many of the software synths do.  I want to hear it say "M N" not
Minisota!!!"; ever heard of Sunday Micro Systems:)?

The worst synth I think I ever heard was a Type & Talk or possibly a
votrax and the old Echo from Street Electronics was another bad one.
At least the Echo was dirt cheap - something like $100.

I think the Accents sound pretty good and you can wind them up to be
pretty fast and you can still understand them once you're used to its
speech quality.  Again, they aren't made any more either.  I one an
Accent PC and it still works good but the SA model I also have just up
and died for no reason last year.  I hadn't had it for any more than a
year before it just up and quit so I wonder about the quality of Acent
synths in general.  My Speakout has been used a lot for something like
7 years now and I've carried it around places, replaced the internal
battery twice and I only had one incident of breakage in that whole
period.  I sure wish more hardware synths would be built.  Thank God
the Double Talk is still around.  The Tripple Talk is another option
but I don't think progress has been made yet concerning the driver for
Speakup to talk to it.  This would present another hardware synth
option.  I still feel that hardware synths are far more responsive
than any software thingy out there Software synths are nice for
portability and possibly economy but that's about it.

On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 12:01:57PM -0400, Sina Bahram wrote:
> Are you serious? Wow, I thought DoubleTalk had to be the worst one
> ever....that's sad that hardware synths are so bad....
> 
> Thanks for your reply
> 
> Take care,
> Sina
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of nick G
> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 11:32 AM
> To: sbahram@nc.rr.com; Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: A good synth?
> 
> 
> That's as good as it gets.  Doubletalk is second only to dectalk in the
> hardware arena in my opinion. Thanks, Nick
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@nc.rr.com>
> To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'"
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 11:05 AM
> Subject: A good synth?
> 
> 
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I need a good hardware synth. My employer is willing to spend around 
> > 300 bucks or so....I need it to work with a variety of linux apps, 
> > like
> SpeakUP
> > for sure, and possibly EmacSpeak as well. Also anything else that uses 
> > a hardware synth if that's possible.
> >
> > What's a good one people? In my opinion the DoubleTalk's quality is 
> > just
> > *shutter* but if that's the best for that price range, I guess I'll have
> to
> > go with that.
> >
> > Thank you all for any replies.
> >
> > Take care,
> > Sina
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca 
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 

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Re: A good synth?

[Jayson Smith]

Heh.  I have a soft spot in my heart for the Echo, simply because that was
what I used on our old Apple computers for so many years!  So I got pretty
used to the sound.
Jayson.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Holmes" <steve@holmesgrown.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: A good synth?


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>
> Hey no! I don't personally own a Double Talk but when I've heard them
> in the past, they began to grow on me.  Personally, I use a Speakout
> from GW Micro but first of all and very unfortunately they have
> stopped production as with so many hardware synths and second, when
> they were sold, they went for something like $695 or so.  It is/was a
> very fast and pretty easy to understand at those high speeds and best
> of all, it does *NOT* force abbreviations down your throat like so
> many of the software synths do.  I want to hear it say "M N" not
> Minisota!!!"; ever heard of Sunday Micro Systems:)?
>
> The worst synth I think I ever heard was a Type & Talk or possibly a
> votrax and the old Echo from Street Electronics was another bad one.
> At least the Echo was dirt cheap - something like $100.
>
> I think the Accents sound pretty good and you can wind them up to be
> pretty fast and you can still understand them once you're used to its
> speech quality.  Again, they aren't made any more either.  I one an
> Accent PC and it still works good but the SA model I also have just up
> and died for no reason last year.  I hadn't had it for any more than a
> year before it just up and quit so I wonder about the quality of Acent
> synths in general.  My Speakout has been used a lot for something like
> 7 years now and I've carried it around places, replaced the internal
> battery twice and I only had one incident of breakage in that whole
> period.  I sure wish more hardware synths would be built.  Thank God
> the Double Talk is still around.  The Tripple Talk is another option
> but I don't think progress has been made yet concerning the driver for
> Speakup to talk to it.  This would present another hardware synth
> option.  I still feel that hardware synths are far more responsive
> than any software thingy out there Software synths are nice for
> portability and possibly economy but that's about it.
>
> On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 12:01:57PM -0400, Sina Bahram wrote:
> > Are you serious? Wow, I thought DoubleTalk had to be the worst one
> > ever....that's sad that hardware synths are so bad....
> >
> > Thanks for your reply
> >
> > Take care,
> > Sina
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> > On Behalf Of nick G
> > Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 11:32 AM
> > To: sbahram@nc.rr.com; Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> > Subject: Re: A good synth?
> >
> >
> > That's as good as it gets.  Doubletalk is second only to dectalk in the
> > hardware arena in my opinion. Thanks, Nick
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@nc.rr.com>
> > To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'"
> > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 11:05 AM
> > Subject: A good synth?
> >
> >
> > > Hi guys,
> > >
> > > I need a good hardware synth. My employer is willing to spend around
> > > 300 bucks or so....I need it to work with a variety of linux apps,
> > > like
> > SpeakUP
> > > for sure, and possibly EmacSpeak as well. Also anything else that uses
> > > a hardware synth if that's possible.
> > >
> > > What's a good one people? In my opinion the DoubleTalk's quality is
> > > just
> > > *shutter* but if that's the best for that price range, I guess I'll
have
> > to
> > > go with that.
> > >
> > > Thank you all for any replies.
> > >
> > > Take care,
> > > Sina
> > >
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Re: A good synth?

[Glenn Ervin at Home]

If it were me, I would buy a used DecTalk.
Glenn

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@nc.rr.com>
To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'"
<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 10:05 AM
Subject: A good synth?


Hi guys,

I need a good hardware synth. My employer is willing to spend around 300
bucks or so....I need it to work with a variety of linux apps, like SpeakUP
for sure, and possibly EmacSpeak as well. Also anything else that uses a
hardware synth if that's possible.

What's a good one people? In my opinion the DoubleTalk's quality is just
*shutter* but if that's the best for that price range, I guess I'll have to
go with that.

Thank you all for any replies.

Take care,
Sina


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Re: A good synth?

[Glenn Ervin at Home]

I have heard that some people with a hearing loss prefer the Braille & Speak
for their computer's synth.
Glenn
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From: "Will Smith" <wilsmith@iglou.com>
To: <sbahram@nc.rr.com>; "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 11:31 AM
Subject: RE: A good synth?


All synthethic speech is subject to individual taste.

For instance, contrary to your opinion, I find Dubltalk the most useful
speech I've ever found for fast and clear reading.  I use it over any and
all other speech, including Dec talk in any version.

There is not one rightspeech package for blind folks.  It's subject to
individual taste and one's actual practices, as for instance in my case
reading fast and understanding everything.

Will
wilsmith@iglou.com
  On Mon, 19 Jul 2004, Sina
Bahram wrote:

> Are you serious? Wow, I thought DoubleTalk had to be the worst one
> ever....that's sad that hardware synths are so bad....
>
> Thanks for your reply
>
> Take care,
> Sina
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of nick G
> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 11:32 AM
> To: sbahram@nc.rr.com; Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: A good synth?
>
>
> That's as good as it gets.  Doubletalk is second only to dectalk in the
> hardware arena in my opinion. Thanks, Nick
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@nc.rr.com>
> To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'"
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 11:05 AM
> Subject: A good synth?
>
>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I need a good hardware synth. My employer is willing to spend around
>> 300 bucks or so....I need it to work with a variety of linux apps,
>> like
> SpeakUP
>> for sure, and possibly EmacSpeak as well. Also anything else that uses
>> a hardware synth if that's possible.
>>
>> What's a good one people? In my opinion the DoubleTalk's quality is
>> just
>> *shutter* but if that's the best for that price range, I guess I'll have
> to
>> go with that.
>>
>> Thank you all for any replies.
>>
>> Take care,
>> Sina
>>
>>
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Re: A good synth?

[Glenn Ervin at Home]

I don't think so, because I got 2 of Will's messages too.
Glenn

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From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>
To: <sbahram@nc.rr.com>; "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: A good synth?


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The way your reply to field seems to be set, is that when somebody replies
to
you, they reply both to you and to the list. So, you're probably
getting 2 replies, because one comes to you, and the other comes to
the list, which you also get.

Greg


On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 01:06:54PM -0400, Sina Bahram wrote:
> Hi Will,
>
> This is weird...I have received your message and also Gregorie's
twice....is
> there something with SpeakUP list or me?
>
> Take care,
> Sina
>

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Re: A good synth?

[Glenn Ervin at Home]

I use a Double Talk once a while at work, when none other is around, but I
think it is pretty bad.
It does enunciate well, but the sound just bugs me.
Actually, I prefer an Artic, or external artic notetaker better than double
talk.
But most people like the DecTalk best.
Glenn

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Holmes" <steve@holmesgrown.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: A good synth?


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Hey no! I don't personally own a Double Talk but when I've heard them
in the past, they began to grow on me.  Personally, I use a Speakout
from GW Micro but first of all and very unfortunately they have
stopped production as with so many hardware synths and second, when
they were sold, they went for something like $695 or so.  It is/was a
very fast and pretty easy to understand at those high speeds and best
of all, it does *NOT* force abbreviations down your throat like so
many of the software synths do.  I want to hear it say "M N" not
Minisota!!!"; ever heard of Sunday Micro Systems:)?

The worst synth I think I ever heard was a Type & Talk or possibly a
votrax and the old Echo from Street Electronics was another bad one.
At least the Echo was dirt cheap - something like $100.

I think the Accents sound pretty good and you can wind them up to be
pretty fast and you can still understand them once you're used to its
speech quality.  Again, they aren't made any more either.  I one an
Accent PC and it still works good but the SA model I also have just up
and died for no reason last year.  I hadn't had it for any more than a
year before it just up and quit so I wonder about the quality of Acent
synths in general.  My Speakout has been used a lot for something like
7 years now and I've carried it around places, replaced the internal
battery twice and I only had one incident of breakage in that whole
period.  I sure wish more hardware synths would be built.  Thank God
the Double Talk is still around.  The Tripple Talk is another option
but I don't think progress has been made yet concerning the driver for
Speakup to talk to it.  This would present another hardware synth
option.  I still feel that hardware synths are far more responsive
than any software thingy out there Software synths are nice for
portability and possibly economy but that's about it.

On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 12:01:57PM -0400, Sina Bahram wrote:
> Are you serious? Wow, I thought DoubleTalk had to be the worst one
> ever....that's sad that hardware synths are so bad....
>
> Thanks for your reply
>
> Take care,
> Sina
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of nick G
> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 11:32 AM
> To: sbahram@nc.rr.com; Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: A good synth?
>
>
> That's as good as it gets.  Doubletalk is second only to dectalk in the
> hardware arena in my opinion. Thanks, Nick
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@nc.rr.com>
> To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'"
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 11:05 AM
> Subject: A good synth?
>
>
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I need a good hardware synth. My employer is willing to spend around
> > 300 bucks or so....I need it to work with a variety of linux apps,
> > like
> SpeakUP
> > for sure, and possibly EmacSpeak as well. Also anything else that uses
> > a hardware synth if that's possible.
> >
> > What's a good one people? In my opinion the DoubleTalk's quality is
> > just
> > *shutter* but if that's the best for that price range, I guess I'll have
> to
> > go with that.
> >
> > Thank you all for any replies.
> >
> > Take care,
> > Sina
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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Re: A good synth?

[Jayson Smith]

I totally agree.  On Ebay these days, you can sometimes find good deals on
Dectalk Expresses.  And sometimes you can even find an old DTC01 for $5 or
$10, but they are usually untested, or the person doesn't know how to use it
and says that it powers up okay but is otherwise untested.
Jayson.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn Ervin at Home" <GlennErvin@cableone.net>
To: <sbahram@nc.rr.com>; "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 9:51 PM
Subject: Re: A good synth?


> If it were me, I would buy a used DecTalk.
> Glenn
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@nc.rr.com>
> To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'"
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 10:05 AM
> Subject: A good synth?
>
>
> Hi guys,
>
> I need a good hardware synth. My employer is willing to spend around 300
> bucks or so....I need it to work with a variety of linux apps, like
SpeakUP
> for sure, and possibly EmacSpeak as well. Also anything else that uses a
> hardware synth if that's possible.
>
> What's a good one people? In my opinion the DoubleTalk's quality is just
> *shutter* but if that's the best for that price range, I guess I'll have
to
> go with that.
>
> Thank you all for any replies.
>
> Take care,
> Sina
>
>
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Re: A good synth?

[Luke Davis]

Indeed.  An older express, usually goes for four-five hundred, on the open 
market.  The new DEC USB/serial expresses, go for about six fifty, I 
believe.
  On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, Jayson Smith wrote:

> The Dectalk Express is a modern portable synthesizer which connects to a
> serial port.  I don't know when they stopped making them, but Force
> Computers released firmware for the Express a few years ago, although I
> don't think it sounds near as good as the older Digital firmware.  The DTC01
> is, as far as I know, the first Dectalk speech synthesizer ever produced,
> and was produced around 1984.  I don't know what a new DTC01 sold for when
> they were popular but I'd suspect several thousand dollars as those units
> also have the ability to interact with a user over the telephone.  Several
> years back I think the Express units were selling new for around $1200 but I
> think I heard once that they'd gone up to around $3000 or so.  Dectalk has
> always been one of the more expensive synthesizers around.  Hope this helps.
> Jayson.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@nc.rr.com>
> To: "'Glenn Ervin at Home'" <GlennErvin@cableone.net>; "'Speakup is a screen
> review system for Linux.'" <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 12:07 AM
> Subject: RE: A good synth?
>
>
> I really appreciate that...tell me, how are those prices? I mean...is that
> good? I'm afraid my experience with them as been so limited as to have a
> very weak grasp of the price market for these devices, other than to know
> how much the newest one costs. Also, that's nowhere near the latest decTalk
> right?
>
> Take care,
> Sina
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Glenn Ervin at Home
> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 11:31 PM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Fw: A good synth?
>
>
>
>
>
> Here are 2 of the DecTalks at ebay for the price range.
>
> http://search.ebay.com/dectalk_W0QQsokeywordredirectZ1QQfromZR8
>
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RE: A good synth?

[Sina Bahram]

Thank you, that does help, and I learned a good bit too

Take care,
Sina

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From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Jayson Smith
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 12:50 AM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: A good synth?


The Dectalk Express is a modern portable synthesizer which connects to a
serial port.  I don't know when they stopped making them, but Force
Computers released firmware for the Express a few years ago, although I
don't think it sounds near as good as the older Digital firmware.  The DTC01
is, as far as I know, the first Dectalk speech synthesizer ever produced,
and was produced around 1984.  I don't know what a new DTC01 sold for when
they were popular but I'd suspect several thousand dollars as those units
also have the ability to interact with a user over the telephone.  Several
years back I think the Express units were selling new for around $1200 but I
think I heard once that they'd gone up to around $3000 or so.  Dectalk has
always been one of the more expensive synthesizers around.  Hope this helps.
Jayson.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@nc.rr.com>
To: "'Glenn Ervin at Home'" <GlennErvin@cableone.net>; "'Speakup is a screen
review system for Linux.'" <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 12:07 AM
Subject: RE: A good synth?


I really appreciate that...tell me, how are those prices? I mean...is that
good? I'm afraid my experience with them as been so limited as to have a
very weak grasp of the price market for these devices, other than to know
how much the newest one costs. Also, that's nowhere near the latest decTalk
right?

Take care,
Sina

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Glenn Ervin at Home
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 11:31 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Fw: A good synth?





Here are 2 of the DecTalks at ebay for the price range.

http://search.ebay.com/dectalk_W0QQsokeywordredirectZ1QQfromZR8


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Re: A good synth?

[Jayson Smith]

The Dectalk Express is a modern portable synthesizer which connects to a
serial port.  I don't know when they stopped making them, but Force
Computers released firmware for the Express a few years ago, although I
don't think it sounds near as good as the older Digital firmware.  The DTC01
is, as far as I know, the first Dectalk speech synthesizer ever produced,
and was produced around 1984.  I don't know what a new DTC01 sold for when
they were popular but I'd suspect several thousand dollars as those units
also have the ability to interact with a user over the telephone.  Several
years back I think the Express units were selling new for around $1200 but I
think I heard once that they'd gone up to around $3000 or so.  Dectalk has
always been one of the more expensive synthesizers around.  Hope this helps.
Jayson.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@nc.rr.com>
To: "'Glenn Ervin at Home'" <GlennErvin@cableone.net>; "'Speakup is a screen
review system for Linux.'" <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 12:07 AM
Subject: RE: A good synth?


I really appreciate that...tell me, how are those prices? I mean...is that
good? I'm afraid my experience with them as been so limited as to have a
very weak grasp of the price market for these devices, other than to know
how much the newest one costs. Also, that's nowhere near the latest decTalk
right?

Take care,
Sina

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Glenn Ervin at Home
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 11:31 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Fw: A good synth?





Here are 2 of the DecTalks at ebay for the price range.

http://search.ebay.com/dectalk_W0QQsokeywordredirectZ1QQfromZR8


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RE: A good synth?

[Sina Bahram]

I really appreciate that...tell me, how are those prices? I mean...is that
good? I'm afraid my experience with them as been so limited as to have a
very weak grasp of the price market for these devices, other than to know
how much the newest one costs. Also, that's nowhere near the latest decTalk
right?

Take care,
Sina

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Glenn Ervin at Home
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 11:31 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Fw: A good synth?





Here are 2 of the DecTalks at ebay for the price range.

http://search.ebay.com/dectalk_W0QQsokeywordredirectZ1QQfromZR8