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* RH 6.2 Versus RH 7.2
@  Amanda Lee
   ` Thomas Ward
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Amanda Lee @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup@Braille.Uwo.Ca

Hmmm I know that it is likely that RH 6.2 with Speakup enabled does not have
the most current version of Speakup patched into the Kernel but here's an
interesting comment from a friend whose judgement I respect a good deal.

So to the other experts herein, please share your thoughts.

He prefers RH 6.2 for the following reason:
RH 7.2 seems to be significantly slower, with lots more disk thrashing, and
it's
not just X Windows (although it's also significantly slower).

So my question is...  What is enabled in RH 7.2 that you won't see in RH 6.2

Amanda Lee
Alexandria, VA





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* RE: RH 6.2 Versus RH 7.2
@  Dawes, Stephen
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Dawes, Stephen @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

With Redhat 7.2, you are starting with a 2.4 series of kernel. 
I may be wrong, but kudzu was part of RedHat 6.2 as well, I remember
using it for quite some time.
kudzu is not only available at boot, or needed to be run as a service,
you can manually run it as well.
To take kudzu and anything out of your boot, run setup from the command
line, when logged in as root.
Setup will allow you to fine tune your boot to a certain point by giving
you the ability of saying what you want to start automatically on boot.
Setup is a nice utility that works well with speakup.
Redhat 7.2 will allow you to choose the file structure that you want to
use for your hard drive. It includes ext3, mentioned in Kirk's note, as
well as reiser fs. However, this is not a Redhat specific thing, it is a
kernel driven thing. So if you don't have the support built into the
kernel, you will not be able to use them.






-----Original Message-----
From: Kirk Wood [mailto:cpt.kirk@1tree.net]
Sent: 2002 January 30 5:59 AM
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: RH 6.2 Versus RH 7.2


> Well, I've noticed that slow down in spead myself. One way to help
spead
> things up is to use the ext3 fs which works much better than ext2.
> One major difference between 6.2 and 7.2 is that 7.2 comes with the
kudzu
> pnp hardware maniger. Kudzu tracks new and removed hardware, and
attempts to
> configure it for you.

Oh please tell me that this is not a representation of what is in store
for the linux comunity. Switching to an more effecient file system for
poor OS performance sounds like a m$ thing. 

As for Kudzu, from what I have seen it is more of a boot thing. You can
certainly turn it off and I would do so if you aren't adding and
subtracting hardware. I mean why run it? I suppose so that you could
avoid
a reboot after 65 days of adding no new hardware and deciding you wanted
something. Oh wait, you had to shut it down to connect it anyway. Or if
not, you could always restart the service midstream anyway.

=======
Kirk Wood
Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net

Nowlan's Theory:
        He who hesitates is not only lost, but several miles from
        the next freeway exit.



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* RE: RH 6.2 Versus RH 7.2
@  Dawes, Stephen
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Dawes, Stephen @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

What are you smoking, ntfs and the nt os leaves a lot to be desired. NT
does not handle a hard shut down and power up nearly as good as EXT3.
Speaking from personal experience. NT leavies a number of .tmp files
laying around after such a cycle. I don't see linux and ext3 doing this.


In M$ defence, they have done a better of handling this in Windows 2000
and NTFS, but it is still not perfect, or as reliable as ext3 and linux.


Oh yeah, I have found that the same holds true for linux and reiserfs,
and its superiority over ntfs. I can not prove it, but I find reiserfs
better then ext3. I think it is based on what I have read so far on both
systems, but that is all I'll say on this.
 

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-----Original Message-----
From: Victor Tsaran [mailto:tsar@sylaba.poznan.pl]
Sent: 2002 January 30 12:42 PM
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: RH 6.2 Versus RH 7.2


NTFS works in the same way as Ext3 does. Let's not take away from Ms$
whatever is good in their OS.
Vic

----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Ward" <tward@bright.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: RH 6.2 Versus RH 7.2


> Well, ext3 has many other advantages than just proformence.  It
supports
> journaling, and is much more stable to boot.
> I actually switched off my computer a number of times to see if I
could
kill
> the file system, and it remained in tact. Try that with a MS fs or the
ext2
> file system, and it would be screwed.
> Anyone wants to stay with older technology when there is improved
technology
> can go ahead. Another man's loss is another man's gain.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kirk Wood <cpt.kirk@1tree.net>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 7:58 AM
> Subject: Re: RH 6.2 Versus RH 7.2
>
>
> > > Well, I've noticed that slow down in spead myself. One way to help
spead
> > > things up is to use the ext3 fs which works much better than ext2.
> > > One major difference between 6.2 and 7.2 is that 7.2 comes with
the
> kudzu
> > > pnp hardware maniger. Kudzu tracks new and removed hardware, and
> attempts to
> > > configure it for you.
> >
> > Oh please tell me that this is not a representation of what is in
store
> > for the linux comunity. Switching to an more effecient file system
for
> > poor OS performance sounds like a m$ thing.
> >
> > As for Kudzu, from what I have seen it is more of a boot thing. You
can
> > certainly turn it off and I would do so if you aren't adding and
> > subtracting hardware. I mean why run it? I suppose so that you could
avoid
> > a reboot after 65 days of adding no new hardware and deciding you
wanted
> > something. Oh wait, you had to shut it down to connect it anyway. Or
if
> > not, you could always restart the service midstream anyway.
> >
> > =======
> > Kirk Wood
> > Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net
> >
> > Nowlan's Theory:
> >         He who hesitates is not only lost, but several miles from
> >         the next freeway exit.
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
>
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>
>
>
>





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