Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?

Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?

[Marcel Oats]

Hi, I am fairly sure this has been answered before, so excuse me.  I just 
downloaded grml2011.12 (both 64 and 32bit versions) and noticed that their 
"large" distribution (around 700mb of iso) is no longer available.  They do 
not mention speakup support in their list of boot options.
I am wanting to use this as you can load the squashfs into ram and have it 
run from there; I usually remaster it so as additional programmes that I 
have included are available, and we have software speech, instead of having 
to rely on a hardware synth.
I might have to look for another distro, and hope that it is possible to 
load the squashfs filesystem into ram as well.

Useful to do such things as running Terabyte's Image for Linux and create BD 
backups is an example of the kinds of uses I have.

Thanks,
Marcel
 

Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?

[Kerry Hoath]

Speakup is included however the accessability boot options are gone.
Boot the cd, wait for the beeps from the speaker, hit q to exit the 
quick config screen then key in
modprobe speakup_soft
espeakup

You should get speech.
Options to load into ram still exist on the cheatsheet as far as I can 
tell and you can still do
<tab> ssh=password
to get an ssh server running on the box.

Regards, kerry.

On 12/01/2012 10:11 AM, Marcel Oats wrote:
> Hi, I am fairly sure this has been answered before, so excuse me.  I
> just downloaded grml2011.12 (both 64 and 32bit versions) and noticed
> that their "large" distribution (around 700mb of iso) is no longer
> available. They do not mention speakup support in their list of boot
> options.
> I am wanting to use this as you can load the squashfs into ram and have
> it run from there; I usually remaster it so as additional programmes
> that I have included are available, and we have software speech, instead
> of having to rely on a hardware synth.
> I might have to look for another distro, and hope that it is possible to
> load the squashfs filesystem into ram as well.
>
> Useful to do such things as running Terabyte's Image for Linux and
> create BD backups is an example of the kinds of uses I have.
>
> Thanks,
> Marcel
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?

[jeremy]

Also, the grml cd's small size is ok. It seems they've been able to 
shrink it down to around 300 mb or so.

Take care.

On 1/11/2012 8:48 PM, Kerry Hoath wrote:
>
> Speakup is included however the accessability boot options are gone.
> Boot the cd, wait for the beeps from the speaker, hit q to exit the 
> quick config screen then key in
> modprobe speakup_soft
> espeakup
>
> You should get speech.
> Options to load into ram still exist on the cheatsheet as far as I can 
> tell and you can still do
> <tab> ssh=password
> to get an ssh server running on the box.
>
> Regards, kerry.
>
> On 12/01/2012 10:11 AM, Marcel Oats wrote:
>> Hi, I am fairly sure this has been answered before, so excuse me. I
>> just downloaded grml2011.12 (both 64 and 32bit versions) and noticed
>> that their "large" distribution (around 700mb of iso) is no longer
>> available. They do not mention speakup support in their list of boot
>> options.
>> I am wanting to use this as you can load the squashfs into ram and have
>> it run from there; I usually remaster it so as additional programmes
>> that I have included are available, and we have software speech, instead
>> of having to rely on a hardware synth.
>> I might have to look for another distro, and hope that it is possible to
>> load the squashfs filesystem into ram as well.
>>
>> Useful to do such things as running Terabyte's Image for Linux and
>> create BD backups is an example of the kinds of uses I have.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Marcel
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?

[Marcel Oats]

Thanks folks, I'll try modprobe speakup_soft.
Also, lets hope grml-live works reliably now.

Marcel



--------------------------------------------------
From: "Kerry Hoath" <kerry@gotss.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 3:48 PM
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?

> 
> Speakup is included however the accessability boot options are gone.
> Boot the cd, wait for the beeps from the speaker, hit q to exit the 
> quick config screen then key in
> modprobe speakup_soft
> espeakup
> 
> You should get speech.
> Options to load into ram still exist on the cheatsheet as far as I can 
> tell and you can still do
> <tab> ssh=password
> to get an ssh server running on the box.
> 
> Regards, kerry.
> 
> On 12/01/2012 10:11 AM, Marcel Oats wrote:
>> Hi, I am fairly sure this has been answered before, so excuse me.  I
>> just downloaded grml2011.12 (both 64 and 32bit versions) and noticed
>> that their "large" distribution (around 700mb of iso) is no longer
>> available. They do not mention speakup support in their list of boot
>> options.
>> I am wanting to use this as you can load the squashfs into ram and have
>> it run from there; I usually remaster it so as additional programmes
>> that I have included are available, and we have software speech, instead
>> of having to rely on a hardware synth.
>> I might have to look for another distro, and hope that it is possible to
>> load the squashfs filesystem into ram as well.
>>
>> Useful to do such things as running Terabyte's Image for Linux and
>> create BD backups is an example of the kinds of uses I have.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Marcel
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup 

Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?

[Marcel Oats]

Ha, and they forgot to unlock the cd tray again, so you cannot eject the cd 
in the default configuration.
Yip we're running with speakup, so we just need to build a chroot and 
install extra software, and once again, hope grml-live, will work.

Cheers,
Marcel
 

Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?

[John G. Heim]

I happen to have just written a wiki  page on using the accessibility 
features of the latest grml release. Its on the web site of the 
International Association of visually  Impaired Technologists.  See:
http://wiki.iavit.org/index.php/Accessing_grml

I think you may have downloaded an older version of grml though. The current 
release does not have large, medium, and small versions. The 32 bit download 
is 315Mb.  It should beep at the isolinux prompt and it should play a 4 note 
tune through the PC speaker when its finished booting.

Anyway, to answer your questions, the speakup modules have not been removed 
but they are no longer built into the kernel. So that means you have to load 
them after boot. But that has been made easier because grml now plays a tune 
when its done booting.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marcel Oats" <moats@orcon.net.nz>
To: <Speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 8:11 PM
Subject: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?


> Hi, I am fairly sure this has been answered before, so excuse me.  I just 
> downloaded grml2011.12 (both 64 and 32bit versions) and noticed that their 
> "large" distribution (around 700mb of iso) is no longer available.  They 
> do not mention speakup support in their list of boot options.
> I am wanting to use this as you can load the squashfs into ram and have it 
> run from there; I usually remaster it so as additional programmes that I 
> have included are available, and we have software speech, instead of 
> having to rely on a hardware synth.
> I might have to look for another distro, and hope that it is possible to 
> load the squashfs filesystem into ram as well.
>
> Useful to do such things as running Terabyte's Image for Linux and create 
> BD backups is an example of the kinds of uses I have.
>
> Thanks,
> Marcel
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> 

Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?

[John G. Heim]

The grml developers are trying to streamline things. I don't want to speak 
for them but after discussing things with them on the grml list, I got the 
impression that they'd rather do a few things really well rather than try to 
do everything and end up doing nothing really well.

From: "Marcel Oats" <moats@orcon.net.nz>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 9:35 PM
Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?


> Thanks folks, I'll try modprobe speakup_soft.
> Also, lets hope grml-live works reliably now.
>
> Marcel
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Kerry Hoath" <kerry@gotss.net>
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 3:48 PM
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?
>
>>
>> Speakup is included however the accessability boot options are gone.
>> Boot the cd, wait for the beeps from the speaker, hit q to exit the quick 
>> config screen then key in
>> modprobe speakup_soft
>> espeakup
>>
>> You should get speech.
>> Options to load into ram still exist on the cheatsheet as far as I can 
>> tell and you can still do
>> <tab> ssh=password
>> to get an ssh server running on the box.
>>
>> Regards, kerry.
>>
>> On 12/01/2012 10:11 AM, Marcel Oats wrote:
>>> Hi, I am fairly sure this has been answered before, so excuse me.  I
>>> just downloaded grml2011.12 (both 64 and 32bit versions) and noticed
>>> that their "large" distribution (around 700mb of iso) is no longer
>>> available. They do not mention speakup support in their list of boot
>>> options.
>>> I am wanting to use this as you can load the squashfs into ram and have
>>> it run from there; I usually remaster it so as additional programmes
>>> that I have included are available, and we have software speech, instead
>>> of having to rely on a hardware synth.
>>> I might have to look for another distro, and hope that it is possible to
>>> load the squashfs filesystem into ram as well.
>>>
>>> Useful to do such things as running Terabyte's Image for Linux and
>>> create BD backups is an example of the kinds of uses I have.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Marcel
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Speakup mailing list
>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> 

Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?

[Glenn]

Kerry,
I downloaded the 32 bit version of GRML, and used the USB installer and put 
it onto my 4GB thumbdrive.
I ran:
modprobe speakup_soft espeakup
And I got speech, but it does not echo my typing, nor can I find a way of 
reviewing what is on the screen.
I am familiar with Orca, in Ubuntu, but this has me stumped.
This is on an Asus ePc which runs XP okay, I don't remember if I upgraded 
the RAM to 1GB or 2GB, but either way, it should be enough.
How do I control the speech better?
Thanks
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kerry Hoath" <kerry@gotss.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?



Speakup is included however the accessability boot options are gone.
Boot the cd, wait for the beeps from the speaker, hit q to exit the
quick config screen then key in
modprobe speakup_soft
espeakup

You should get speech.
Options to load into ram still exist on the cheatsheet as far as I can
tell and you can still do
<tab> ssh=password
to get an ssh server running on the box.

Regards, kerry.

On 12/01/2012 10:11 AM, Marcel Oats wrote:
> Hi, I am fairly sure this has been answered before, so excuse me.  I
> just downloaded grml2011.12 (both 64 and 32bit versions) and noticed
> that their "large" distribution (around 700mb of iso) is no longer
> available. They do not mention speakup support in their list of boot
> options.
> I am wanting to use this as you can load the squashfs into ram and have
> it run from there; I usually remaster it so as additional programmes
> that I have included are available, and we have software speech, instead
> of having to rely on a hardware synth.
> I might have to look for another distro, and hope that it is possible to
> load the squashfs filesystem into ram as well.
>
> Useful to do such things as running Terabyte's Image for Linux and
> create BD backups is an example of the kinds of uses I have.
>
> Thanks,
> Marcel
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
_______________________________________________
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Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup 

Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?

[Kerry Hoath]

obviously modprobe speakup_soft
and
espeakup
are 2 separate commands you run after hitting q to exit the grml 
quickstart wizard.

Once speech is loaded you can use the speakup review commands to get 
around the screen. to get keyboard echo you echo 1 
 >/sys/accessibility/speakup/key_echo or similar it is in there somewhere.

to move by lines use capslock u i o, words are j k l and characters m , 
and .

capslock and the numbers do volume, pitch and speed.
There is a help key can't remember what it is but there is documentation 
on linux-speakup.org somewhere with all the key bindings.

Regards, Kerry.

On 20/01/2012 12:41 PM, Glenn wrote:
> Kerry,
> I downloaded the 32 bit version of GRML, and used the USB installer and put
> it onto my 4GB thumbdrive.
> I ran:
> modprobe speakup_soft espeakup
> And I got speech, but it does not echo my typing, nor can I find a way of
> reviewing what is on the screen.
> I am familiar with Orca, in Ubuntu, but this has me stumped.
> This is on an Asus ePc which runs XP okay, I don't remember if I upgraded
> the RAM to 1GB or 2GB, but either way, it should be enough.
> How do I control the speech better?
> Thanks
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kerry Hoath"<kerry@gotss.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 8:48 PM
> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?
>
>
>
> Speakup is included however the accessability boot options are gone.
> Boot the cd, wait for the beeps from the speaker, hit q to exit the
> quick config screen then key in
> modprobe speakup_soft
> espeakup
>
> You should get speech.
> Options to load into ram still exist on the cheatsheet as far as I can
> tell and you can still do
> <tab>  ssh=password
> to get an ssh server running on the box.
>
> Regards, kerry.
>
> On 12/01/2012 10:11 AM, Marcel Oats wrote:
>> Hi, I am fairly sure this has been answered before, so excuse me.  I
>> just downloaded grml2011.12 (both 64 and 32bit versions) and noticed
>> that their "large" distribution (around 700mb of iso) is no longer
>> available. They do not mention speakup support in their list of boot
>> options.
>> I am wanting to use this as you can load the squashfs into ram and have
>> it run from there; I usually remaster it so as additional programmes
>> that I have included are available, and we have software speech, instead
>> of having to rely on a hardware synth.
>> I might have to look for another distro, and hope that it is possible to
>> load the squashfs filesystem into ram as well.
>>
>> Useful to do such things as running Terabyte's Image for Linux and
>> create BD backups is an example of the kinds of uses I have.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Marcel
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?

[Glenn]

Hi Kerry,
I tried these, as they sound like the same as Orca, but nothing came out 
when navigating with those keys.
It must be that I did all on the same line to call up espeak.
Glenn

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kerry Hoath" <kerry@gotss.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 2:07 AM
Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?



obviously modprobe speakup_soft
and
espeakup
are 2 separate commands you run after hitting q to exit the grml
quickstart wizard.

Once speech is loaded you can use the speakup review commands to get
around the screen. to get keyboard echo you echo 1
 >/sys/accessibility/speakup/key_echo or similar it is in there somewhere.

to move by lines use capslock u i o, words are j k l and characters m ,
and .

capslock and the numbers do volume, pitch and speed.
There is a help key can't remember what it is but there is documentation
on linux-speakup.org somewhere with all the key bindings.

Regards, Kerry.

On 20/01/2012 12:41 PM, Glenn wrote:
> Kerry,
> I downloaded the 32 bit version of GRML, and used the USB installer and 
> put
> it onto my 4GB thumbdrive.
> I ran:
> modprobe speakup_soft espeakup
> And I got speech, but it does not echo my typing, nor can I find a way of
> reviewing what is on the screen.
> I am familiar with Orca, in Ubuntu, but this has me stumped.
> This is on an Asus ePc which runs XP okay, I don't remember if I upgraded
> the RAM to 1GB or 2GB, but either way, it should be enough.
> How do I control the speech better?
> Thanks
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kerry Hoath"<kerry@gotss.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 8:48 PM
> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?
>
>
>
> Speakup is included however the accessability boot options are gone.
> Boot the cd, wait for the beeps from the speaker, hit q to exit the
> quick config screen then key in
> modprobe speakup_soft
> espeakup
>
> You should get speech.
> Options to load into ram still exist on the cheatsheet as far as I can
> tell and you can still do
> <tab>  ssh=password
> to get an ssh server running on the box.
>
> Regards, kerry.
>
> On 12/01/2012 10:11 AM, Marcel Oats wrote:
>> Hi, I am fairly sure this has been answered before, so excuse me.  I
>> just downloaded grml2011.12 (both 64 and 32bit versions) and noticed
>> that their "large" distribution (around 700mb of iso) is no longer
>> available. They do not mention speakup support in their list of boot
>> options.
>> I am wanting to use this as you can load the squashfs into ram and have
>> it run from there; I usually remaster it so as additional programmes
>> that I have included are available, and we have software speech, instead
>> of having to rely on a hardware synth.
>> I might have to look for another distro, and hope that it is possible to
>> load the squashfs filesystem into ram as well.
>>
>> Useful to do such things as running Terabyte's Image for Linux and
>> create BD backups is an example of the kinds of uses I have.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Marcel
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
_______________________________________________
Speakup mailing list
Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup 

Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?

[Justin Harford]

I actually downloaded this to take a look. I waited for the jingle and typed 

modprobe speakup_soft 
followed by 
espeakup 

and after I pressed enter it did eventually come up speaking, but it had an error saying that it could not access a certain source, but I just pressed return and it started working, review keys etc. 

Now I'm just looking for how to install it on the hard drive partition. In the FAQ of GRML, it looks as though it is not obvious.

Regards
Justin Harford 
On 20-01-2012, at 16:14, Glenn wrote:

> Hi Kerry,
> I tried these, as they sound like the same as Orca, but nothing came out 
> when navigating with those keys.
> It must be that I did all on the same line to call up espeak.
> Glenn
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kerry Hoath" <kerry@gotss.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 2:07 AM
> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?
> 
> 
> 
> obviously modprobe speakup_soft
> and
> espeakup
> are 2 separate commands you run after hitting q to exit the grml
> quickstart wizard.
> 
> Once speech is loaded you can use the speakup review commands to get
> around the screen. to get keyboard echo you echo 1
>> /sys/accessibility/speakup/key_echo or similar it is in there somewhere.
> 
> to move by lines use capslock u i o, words are j k l and characters m ,
> and .
> 
> capslock and the numbers do volume, pitch and speed.
> There is a help key can't remember what it is but there is documentation
> on linux-speakup.org somewhere with all the key bindings.
> 
> Regards, Kerry.
> 
> On 20/01/2012 12:41 PM, Glenn wrote:
>> Kerry,
>> I downloaded the 32 bit version of GRML, and used the USB installer and 
>> put
>> it onto my 4GB thumbdrive.
>> I ran:
>> modprobe speakup_soft espeakup
>> And I got speech, but it does not echo my typing, nor can I find a way of
>> reviewing what is on the screen.
>> I am familiar with Orca, in Ubuntu, but this has me stumped.
>> This is on an Asus ePc which runs XP okay, I don't remember if I upgraded
>> the RAM to 1GB or 2GB, but either way, it should be enough.
>> How do I control the speech better?
>> Thanks
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Kerry Hoath"<kerry@gotss.net>
>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 8:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Speakup is included however the accessability boot options are gone.
>> Boot the cd, wait for the beeps from the speaker, hit q to exit the
>> quick config screen then key in
>> modprobe speakup_soft
>> espeakup
>> 
>> You should get speech.
>> Options to load into ram still exist on the cheatsheet as far as I can
>> tell and you can still do
>> <tab>  ssh=password
>> to get an ssh server running on the box.
>> 
>> Regards, kerry.
>> 
>> On 12/01/2012 10:11 AM, Marcel Oats wrote:
>>> Hi, I am fairly sure this has been answered before, so excuse me.  I
>>> just downloaded grml2011.12 (both 64 and 32bit versions) and noticed
>>> that their "large" distribution (around 700mb of iso) is no longer
>>> available. They do not mention speakup support in their list of boot
>>> options.
>>> I am wanting to use this as you can load the squashfs into ram and have
>>> it run from there; I usually remaster it so as additional programmes
>>> that I have included are available, and we have software speech, instead
>>> of having to rely on a hardware synth.
>>> I might have to look for another distro, and hope that it is possible to
>>> load the squashfs filesystem into ram as well.
>>> 
>>> Useful to do such things as running Terabyte's Image for Linux and
>>> create BD backups is an example of the kinds of uses I have.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Marcel
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Speakup mailing list
>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?

[Littlefield, Tyler]

They do have a gRML2hd, but I've never managed to get that working, so 
good luck. I always just used debootstrap and installed Debian, but 
that's kind of a pain.
On 1/20/2012 7:14 PM, Justin Harford wrote:
> I actually downloaded this to take a look. I waited for the jingle and typed
>
> modprobe speakup_soft
> followed by
> espeakup
>
> and after I pressed enter it did eventually come up speaking, but it had an error saying that it could not access a certain source, but I just pressed return and it started working, review keys etc.
>
> Now I'm just looking for how to install it on the hard drive partition. In the FAQ of GRML, it looks as though it is not obvious.
>
> Regards
> Justin Harford
> On 20-01-2012, at 16:14, Glenn wrote:
>
>> Hi Kerry,
>> I tried these, as they sound like the same as Orca, but nothing came out
>> when navigating with those keys.
>> It must be that I did all on the same line to call up espeak.
>> Glenn
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Kerry Hoath"<kerry@gotss.net>
>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 2:07 AM
>> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?
>>
>>
>>
>> obviously modprobe speakup_soft
>> and
>> espeakup
>> are 2 separate commands you run after hitting q to exit the grml
>> quickstart wizard.
>>
>> Once speech is loaded you can use the speakup review commands to get
>> around the screen. to get keyboard echo you echo 1
>>> /sys/accessibility/speakup/key_echo or similar it is in there somewhere.
>> to move by lines use capslock u i o, words are j k l and characters m ,
>> and .
>>
>> capslock and the numbers do volume, pitch and speed.
>> There is a help key can't remember what it is but there is documentation
>> on linux-speakup.org somewhere with all the key bindings.
>>
>> Regards, Kerry.
>>
>> On 20/01/2012 12:41 PM, Glenn wrote:
>>> Kerry,
>>> I downloaded the 32 bit version of GRML, and used the USB installer and
>>> put
>>> it onto my 4GB thumbdrive.
>>> I ran:
>>> modprobe speakup_soft espeakup
>>> And I got speech, but it does not echo my typing, nor can I find a way of
>>> reviewing what is on the screen.
>>> I am familiar with Orca, in Ubuntu, but this has me stumped.
>>> This is on an Asus ePc which runs XP okay, I don't remember if I upgraded
>>> the RAM to 1GB or 2GB, but either way, it should be enough.
>>> How do I control the speech better?
>>> Thanks
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Kerry Hoath"<kerry@gotss.net>
>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 8:48 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Speakup is included however the accessability boot options are gone.
>>> Boot the cd, wait for the beeps from the speaker, hit q to exit the
>>> quick config screen then key in
>>> modprobe speakup_soft
>>> espeakup
>>>
>>> You should get speech.
>>> Options to load into ram still exist on the cheatsheet as far as I can
>>> tell and you can still do
>>> <tab>   ssh=password
>>> to get an ssh server running on the box.
>>>
>>> Regards, kerry.
>>>
>>> On 12/01/2012 10:11 AM, Marcel Oats wrote:
>>>> Hi, I am fairly sure this has been answered before, so excuse me.  I
>>>> just downloaded grml2011.12 (both 64 and 32bit versions) and noticed
>>>> that their "large" distribution (around 700mb of iso) is no longer
>>>> available. They do not mention speakup support in their list of boot
>>>> options.
>>>> I am wanting to use this as you can load the squashfs into ram and have
>>>> it run from there; I usually remaster it so as additional programmes
>>>> that I have included are available, and we have software speech, instead
>>>> of having to rely on a hardware synth.
>>>> I might have to look for another distro, and hope that it is possible to
>>>> load the squashfs filesystem into ram as well.
>>>>
>>>> Useful to do such things as running Terabyte's Image for Linux and
>>>> create BD backups is an example of the kinds of uses I have.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Marcel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Speakup mailing list
>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Speakup mailing list
>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Speakup mailing list
>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup


-- 

Take care,
Ty
Web: http://tds-solutions.net
The Aspen project: a light-weight barebones mud engine
http://code.google.com/p/aspenmud

Sent from my toaster.

RE: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?

[Kelly Prescott]

I always use gmrl2hd and it works good for me...
I have a acer netbook ad another little one that I cannot think of the brand
of.




-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Littlefield, Tyler
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 8:27 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?

They do have a gRML2hd, but I've never managed to get that working, so good
luck. I always just used debootstrap and installed Debian, but that's kind
of a pain.
On 1/20/2012 7:14 PM, Justin Harford wrote:
> I actually downloaded this to take a look. I waited for the jingle and 
> typed
>
> modprobe speakup_soft
> followed by
> espeakup
>
> and after I pressed enter it did eventually come up speaking, but it had
an error saying that it could not access a certain source, but I just
pressed return and it started working, review keys etc.
>
> Now I'm just looking for how to install it on the hard drive partition. In
the FAQ of GRML, it looks as though it is not obvious.
>
> Regards
> Justin Harford
> On 20-01-2012, at 16:14, Glenn wrote:
>
>> Hi Kerry,
>> I tried these, as they sound like the same as Orca, but nothing came out
>> when navigating with those keys.
>> It must be that I did all on the same line to call up espeak.
>> Glenn
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Kerry Hoath"<kerry@gotss.net>
>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for
Linux."<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 2:07 AM
>> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?
>>
>>
>>
>> obviously modprobe speakup_soft
>> and
>> espeakup
>> are 2 separate commands you run after hitting q to exit the grml
>> quickstart wizard.
>>
>> Once speech is loaded you can use the speakup review commands to get
>> around the screen. to get keyboard echo you echo 1
>>> /sys/accessibility/speakup/key_echo or similar it is in there somewhere.
>> to move by lines use capslock u i o, words are j k l and characters m ,
>> and .
>>
>> capslock and the numbers do volume, pitch and speed.
>> There is a help key can't remember what it is but there is documentation
>> on linux-speakup.org somewhere with all the key bindings.
>>
>> Regards, Kerry.
>>
>> On 20/01/2012 12:41 PM, Glenn wrote:
>>> Kerry,
>>> I downloaded the 32 bit version of GRML, and used the USB installer and
>>> put
>>> it onto my 4GB thumbdrive.
>>> I ran:
>>> modprobe speakup_soft espeakup
>>> And I got speech, but it does not echo my typing, nor can I find a way
of
>>> reviewing what is on the screen.
>>> I am familiar with Orca, in Ubuntu, but this has me stumped.
>>> This is on an Asus ePc which runs XP okay, I don't remember if I
upgraded
>>> the RAM to 1GB or 2GB, but either way, it should be enough.
>>> How do I control the speech better?
>>> Thanks
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Kerry Hoath"<kerry@gotss.net>
>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for
Linux."<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 8:48 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Speakup is included however the accessability boot options are gone.
>>> Boot the cd, wait for the beeps from the speaker, hit q to exit the
>>> quick config screen then key in
>>> modprobe speakup_soft
>>> espeakup
>>>
>>> You should get speech.
>>> Options to load into ram still exist on the cheatsheet as far as I can
>>> tell and you can still do
>>> <tab>   ssh=password
>>> to get an ssh server running on the box.
>>>
>>> Regards, kerry.
>>>
>>> On 12/01/2012 10:11 AM, Marcel Oats wrote:
>>>> Hi, I am fairly sure this has been answered before, so excuse me.  I
>>>> just downloaded grml2011.12 (both 64 and 32bit versions) and noticed
>>>> that their "large" distribution (around 700mb of iso) is no longer
>>>> available. They do not mention speakup support in their list of boot
>>>> options.
>>>> I am wanting to use this as you can load the squashfs into ram and have
>>>> it run from there; I usually remaster it so as additional programmes
>>>> that I have included are available, and we have software speech,
instead
>>>> of having to rely on a hardware synth.
>>>> I might have to look for another distro, and hope that it is possible
to
>>>> load the squashfs filesystem into ram as well.
>>>>
>>>> Useful to do such things as running Terabyte's Image for Linux and
>>>> create BD backups is an example of the kinds of uses I have.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Marcel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Speakup mailing list
>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Speakup mailing list
>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Speakup mailing list
>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup


-- 

Take care,
Ty
Web: http://tds-solutions.net
The Aspen project: a light-weight barebones mud engine
http://code.google.com/p/aspenmud

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_______________________________________________
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http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?

[Justin Harford]

gmrl or grml?

I was following the audio tutorial, and that option did not work for me. And in their FAQ, it did not sound like it was available. Maybe I didn't read it right.

I ended up running grml-debootstrap 

I hope it's not too much of a pain lol. Why would it be?

Justin 
On 20-01-2012, at 19:31, Kelly Prescott wrote:

> I always use gmrl2hd and it works good for me...
> I have a acer netbook ad another little one that I cannot think of the brand
> of.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Littlefield, Tyler
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 8:27 PM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?
> 
> They do have a gRML2hd, but I've never managed to get that working, so good
> luck. I always just used debootstrap and installed Debian, but that's kind
> of a pain.
> On 1/20/2012 7:14 PM, Justin Harford wrote:
>> I actually downloaded this to take a look. I waited for the jingle and 
>> typed
>> 
>> modprobe speakup_soft
>> followed by
>> espeakup
>> 
>> and after I pressed enter it did eventually come up speaking, but it had
> an error saying that it could not access a certain source, but I just
> pressed return and it started working, review keys etc.
>> 
>> Now I'm just looking for how to install it on the hard drive partition. In
> the FAQ of GRML, it looks as though it is not obvious.
>> 
>> Regards
>> Justin Harford
>> On 20-01-2012, at 16:14, Glenn wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Kerry,
>>> I tried these, as they sound like the same as Orca, but nothing came out
>>> when navigating with those keys.
>>> It must be that I did all on the same line to call up espeak.
>>> Glenn
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Kerry Hoath"<kerry@gotss.net>
>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for
> Linux."<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 2:07 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> obviously modprobe speakup_soft
>>> and
>>> espeakup
>>> are 2 separate commands you run after hitting q to exit the grml
>>> quickstart wizard.
>>> 
>>> Once speech is loaded you can use the speakup review commands to get
>>> around the screen. to get keyboard echo you echo 1
>>>> /sys/accessibility/speakup/key_echo or similar it is in there somewhere.
>>> to move by lines use capslock u i o, words are j k l and characters m ,
>>> and .
>>> 
>>> capslock and the numbers do volume, pitch and speed.
>>> There is a help key can't remember what it is but there is documentation
>>> on linux-speakup.org somewhere with all the key bindings.
>>> 
>>> Regards, Kerry.
>>> 
>>> On 20/01/2012 12:41 PM, Glenn wrote:
>>>> Kerry,
>>>> I downloaded the 32 bit version of GRML, and used the USB installer and
>>>> put
>>>> it onto my 4GB thumbdrive.
>>>> I ran:
>>>> modprobe speakup_soft espeakup
>>>> And I got speech, but it does not echo my typing, nor can I find a way
> of
>>>> reviewing what is on the screen.
>>>> I am familiar with Orca, in Ubuntu, but this has me stumped.
>>>> This is on an Asus ePc which runs XP okay, I don't remember if I
> upgraded
>>>> the RAM to 1GB or 2GB, but either way, it should be enough.
>>>> How do I control the speech better?
>>>> Thanks
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Kerry Hoath"<kerry@gotss.net>
>>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for
> Linux."<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 8:48 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Speakup is included however the accessability boot options are gone.
>>>> Boot the cd, wait for the beeps from the speaker, hit q to exit the
>>>> quick config screen then key in
>>>> modprobe speakup_soft
>>>> espeakup
>>>> 
>>>> You should get speech.
>>>> Options to load into ram still exist on the cheatsheet as far as I can
>>>> tell and you can still do
>>>> <tab>   ssh=password
>>>> to get an ssh server running on the box.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards, kerry.
>>>> 
>>>> On 12/01/2012 10:11 AM, Marcel Oats wrote:
>>>>> Hi, I am fairly sure this has been answered before, so excuse me.  I
>>>>> just downloaded grml2011.12 (both 64 and 32bit versions) and noticed
>>>>> that their "large" distribution (around 700mb of iso) is no longer
>>>>> available. They do not mention speakup support in their list of boot
>>>>> options.
>>>>> I am wanting to use this as you can load the squashfs into ram and have
>>>>> it run from there; I usually remaster it so as additional programmes
>>>>> that I have included are available, and we have software speech,
> instead
>>>>> of having to rely on a hardware synth.
>>>>> I might have to look for another distro, and hope that it is possible
> to
>>>>> load the squashfs filesystem into ram as well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Useful to do such things as running Terabyte's Image for Linux and
>>>>> create BD backups is an example of the kinds of uses I have.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Marcel
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Speakup mailing list
>>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Speakup mailing list
>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Speakup mailing list
>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Speakup mailing list
>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Speakup mailing list
>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Take care,
> Ty
> Web: http://tds-solutions.net
> The Aspen project: a light-weight barebones mud engine
> http://code.google.com/p/aspenmud
> 
> Sent from my toaster.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?

[Robert cole]

Hello, Justin.

Yes, the script is called grml2hd. I haven't tried it as I do not have a 
hard drive to install to. I may try it under VirtualBox.

On 01/20/2012 07:55 PM, Justin Harford wrote:
> gmrl or grml?
>
> I was following the audio tutorial, and that option did not work for me. And in their FAQ, it did not sound like it was available. Maybe I didn't read it right.
>
> I ended up running grml-debootstrap
>
> I hope it's not too much of a pain lol. Why would it be?
>
> Justin
> On 20-01-2012, at 19:31, Kelly Prescott wrote:
>
>> I always use gmrl2hd and it works good for me...
>> I have a acer netbook ad another little one that I cannot think of the brand
>> of.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
>> On Behalf Of Littlefield, Tyler
>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 8:27 PM
>> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
>> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?
>>
>> They do have a gRML2hd, but I've never managed to get that working, so good
>> luck. I always just used debootstrap and installed Debian, but that's kind
>> of a pain.
>> On 1/20/2012 7:14 PM, Justin Harford wrote:
>>> I actually downloaded this to take a look. I waited for the jingle and
>>> typed
>>>
>>> modprobe speakup_soft
>>> followed by
>>> espeakup
>>>
>>> and after I pressed enter it did eventually come up speaking, but it had
>> an error saying that it could not access a certain source, but I just
>> pressed return and it started working, review keys etc.
>>> Now I'm just looking for how to install it on the hard drive partition. In
>> the FAQ of GRML, it looks as though it is not obvious.
>>> Regards
>>> Justin Harford
>>> On 20-01-2012, at 16:14, Glenn wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Kerry,
>>>> I tried these, as they sound like the same as Orca, but nothing came out
>>>> when navigating with those keys.
>>>> It must be that I did all on the same line to call up espeak.
>>>> Glenn
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Kerry Hoath"<kerry@gotss.net>
>>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for
>> Linux."<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>>>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 2:07 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> obviously modprobe speakup_soft
>>>> and
>>>> espeakup
>>>> are 2 separate commands you run after hitting q to exit the grml
>>>> quickstart wizard.
>>>>
>>>> Once speech is loaded you can use the speakup review commands to get
>>>> around the screen. to get keyboard echo you echo 1
>>>>> /sys/accessibility/speakup/key_echo or similar it is in there somewhere.
>>>> to move by lines use capslock u i o, words are j k l and characters m ,
>>>> and .
>>>>
>>>> capslock and the numbers do volume, pitch and speed.
>>>> There is a help key can't remember what it is but there is documentation
>>>> on linux-speakup.org somewhere with all the key bindings.
>>>>
>>>> Regards, Kerry.
>>>>
>>>> On 20/01/2012 12:41 PM, Glenn wrote:
>>>>> Kerry,
>>>>> I downloaded the 32 bit version of GRML, and used the USB installer and
>>>>> put
>>>>> it onto my 4GB thumbdrive.
>>>>> I ran:
>>>>> modprobe speakup_soft espeakup
>>>>> And I got speech, but it does not echo my typing, nor can I find a way
>> of
>>>>> reviewing what is on the screen.
>>>>> I am familiar with Orca, in Ubuntu, but this has me stumped.
>>>>> This is on an Asus ePc which runs XP okay, I don't remember if I
>> upgraded
>>>>> the RAM to 1GB or 2GB, but either way, it should be enough.
>>>>> How do I control the speech better?
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Kerry Hoath"<kerry@gotss.net>
>>>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for
>> Linux."<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 8:48 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Speakup is included however the accessability boot options are gone.
>>>>> Boot the cd, wait for the beeps from the speaker, hit q to exit the
>>>>> quick config screen then key in
>>>>> modprobe speakup_soft
>>>>> espeakup
>>>>>
>>>>> You should get speech.
>>>>> Options to load into ram still exist on the cheatsheet as far as I can
>>>>> tell and you can still do
>>>>> <tab>    ssh=password
>>>>> to get an ssh server running on the box.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards, kerry.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/01/2012 10:11 AM, Marcel Oats wrote:
>>>>>> Hi, I am fairly sure this has been answered before, so excuse me.  I
>>>>>> just downloaded grml2011.12 (both 64 and 32bit versions) and noticed
>>>>>> that their "large" distribution (around 700mb of iso) is no longer
>>>>>> available. They do not mention speakup support in their list of boot
>>>>>> options.
>>>>>> I am wanting to use this as you can load the squashfs into ram and have
>>>>>> it run from there; I usually remaster it so as additional programmes
>>>>>> that I have included are available, and we have software speech,
>> instead
>>>>>> of having to rely on a hardware synth.
>>>>>> I might have to look for another distro, and hope that it is possible
>> to
>>>>>> load the squashfs filesystem into ram as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Useful to do such things as running Terabyte's Image for Linux and
>>>>>> create BD backups is an example of the kinds of uses I have.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Marcel
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Speakup mailing list
>>>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Speakup mailing list
>>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Speakup mailing list
>>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Speakup mailing list
>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Speakup mailing list
>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Speakup mailing list
>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> Take care,
>> Ty
>> Web: http://tds-solutions.net
>> The Aspen project: a light-weight barebones mud engine
>> http://code.google.com/p/aspenmud
>>
>> Sent from my toaster.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?

[Justin Harford]

Hi there 

Well I tried 

grml2hd 

and it said that the command was not recognized. 

It looks like the install process has changed over the last few years though. My process did not look anything like what Michael Whapples did in 2008. 

It looks like I have a system set up now, but I cannot seem to figure out how to turn on speakup. I tried what worked in the live cd:

modprobe speakup_soft 
espeakup 

But no beans. 

It does not recognize the command espeakup. 

Regards
Justin Harford 
On 20-01-2012, at 21:20, Robert cole wrote:

> Hello, Justin.
> 
> Yes, the script is called grml2hd. I haven't tried it as I do not have a hard drive to install to. I may try it under VirtualBox.
> 
> On 01/20/2012 07:55 PM, Justin Harford wrote:
>> gmrl or grml?
>> 
>> I was following the audio tutorial, and that option did not work for me. And in their FAQ, it did not sound like it was available. Maybe I didn't read it right.
>> 
>> I ended up running grml-debootstrap
>> 
>> I hope it's not too much of a pain lol. Why would it be?
>> 
>> Justin
>> On 20-01-2012, at 19:31, Kelly Prescott wrote:
>> 
>>> I always use gmrl2hd and it works good for me...
>>> I have a acer netbook ad another little one that I cannot think of the brand
>>> of.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
>>> On Behalf Of Littlefield, Tyler
>>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 8:27 PM
>>> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
>>> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?
>>> 
>>> They do have a gRML2hd, but I've never managed to get that working, so good
>>> luck. I always just used debootstrap and installed Debian, but that's kind
>>> of a pain.
>>> On 1/20/2012 7:14 PM, Justin Harford wrote:
>>>> I actually downloaded this to take a look. I waited for the jingle and
>>>> typed
>>>> 
>>>> modprobe speakup_soft
>>>> followed by
>>>> espeakup
>>>> 
>>>> and after I pressed enter it did eventually come up speaking, but it had
>>> an error saying that it could not access a certain source, but I just
>>> pressed return and it started working, review keys etc.
>>>> Now I'm just looking for how to install it on the hard drive partition. In
>>> the FAQ of GRML, it looks as though it is not obvious.
>>>> Regards
>>>> Justin Harford
>>>> On 20-01-2012, at 16:14, Glenn wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Kerry,
>>>>> I tried these, as they sound like the same as Orca, but nothing came out
>>>>> when navigating with those keys.
>>>>> It must be that I did all on the same line to call up espeak.
>>>>> Glenn
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Kerry Hoath"<kerry@gotss.net>
>>>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for
>>> Linux."<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 2:07 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> obviously modprobe speakup_soft
>>>>> and
>>>>> espeakup
>>>>> are 2 separate commands you run after hitting q to exit the grml
>>>>> quickstart wizard.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Once speech is loaded you can use the speakup review commands to get
>>>>> around the screen. to get keyboard echo you echo 1
>>>>>> /sys/accessibility/speakup/key_echo or similar it is in there somewhere.
>>>>> to move by lines use capslock u i o, words are j k l and characters m ,
>>>>> and .
>>>>> 
>>>>> capslock and the numbers do volume, pitch and speed.
>>>>> There is a help key can't remember what it is but there is documentation
>>>>> on linux-speakup.org somewhere with all the key bindings.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards, Kerry.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 20/01/2012 12:41 PM, Glenn wrote:
>>>>>> Kerry,
>>>>>> I downloaded the 32 bit version of GRML, and used the USB installer and
>>>>>> put
>>>>>> it onto my 4GB thumbdrive.
>>>>>> I ran:
>>>>>> modprobe speakup_soft espeakup
>>>>>> And I got speech, but it does not echo my typing, nor can I find a way
>>> of
>>>>>> reviewing what is on the screen.
>>>>>> I am familiar with Orca, in Ubuntu, but this has me stumped.
>>>>>> This is on an Asus ePc which runs XP okay, I don't remember if I
>>> upgraded
>>>>>> the RAM to 1GB or 2GB, but either way, it should be enough.
>>>>>> How do I control the speech better?
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Kerry Hoath"<kerry@gotss.net>
>>>>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for
>>> Linux."<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 8:48 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Speakup is included however the accessability boot options are gone.
>>>>>> Boot the cd, wait for the beeps from the speaker, hit q to exit the
>>>>>> quick config screen then key in
>>>>>> modprobe speakup_soft
>>>>>> espeakup
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You should get speech.
>>>>>> Options to load into ram still exist on the cheatsheet as far as I can
>>>>>> tell and you can still do
>>>>>> <tab>    ssh=password
>>>>>> to get an ssh server running on the box.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards, kerry.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 12/01/2012 10:11 AM, Marcel Oats wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi, I am fairly sure this has been answered before, so excuse me.  I
>>>>>>> just downloaded grml2011.12 (both 64 and 32bit versions) and noticed
>>>>>>> that their "large" distribution (around 700mb of iso) is no longer
>>>>>>> available. They do not mention speakup support in their list of boot
>>>>>>> options.
>>>>>>> I am wanting to use this as you can load the squashfs into ram and have
>>>>>>> it run from there; I usually remaster it so as additional programmes
>>>>>>> that I have included are available, and we have software speech,
>>> instead
>>>>>>> of having to rely on a hardware synth.
>>>>>>> I might have to look for another distro, and hope that it is possible
>>> to
>>>>>>> load the squashfs filesystem into ram as well.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Useful to do such things as running Terabyte's Image for Linux and
>>>>>>> create BD backups is an example of the kinds of uses I have.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Marcel
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Speakup mailing list
>>>>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Speakup mailing list
>>>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Speakup mailing list
>>>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Speakup mailing list
>>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Speakup mailing list
>>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Speakup mailing list
>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> 
>>> Take care,
>>> Ty
>>> Web: http://tds-solutions.net
>>> The Aspen project: a light-weight barebones mud engine
>>> http://code.google.com/p/aspenmud
>>> 
>>> Sent from my toaster.
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Speakup mailing list
>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Speakup mailing list
>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?

[Robert cole]

Hello, Justin.

You know...I just looked at the GRML FAQ, and it looks like there is a 
way to install GRML to a hard drive, but they do not explain how to do 
so there. And apparently it is not supported. So the only 
straightforward approach is that of installing a straight Debian system 
using grml-debootstrap.

I am just guessing, then, that the edition of Debian which is installed 
does not contain the espeakup package installed...I am not sure. If I 
can do it tonight, I'll try and install it in a virtual machine and see 
what happens.

I could have sworn I saw a grml2hd script mentioned somewhere. Sorry 
about that.

On 01/20/2012 10:08 PM, Justin Harford wrote:
> Hi there
>
> Well I tried
>
> grml2hd
>
> and it said that the command was not recognized.
>
> It looks like the install process has changed over the last few years though. My process did not look anything like what Michael Whapples did in 2008.
>
> It looks like I have a system set up now, but I cannot seem to figure out how to turn on speakup. I tried what worked in the live cd:
>
> modprobe speakup_soft
> espeakup
>
> But no beans.
>
> It does not recognize the command espeakup.
>
> Regards
> Justin Harford
> On 20-01-2012, at 21:20, Robert cole wrote:
>
>> Hello, Justin.
>>
>> Yes, the script is called grml2hd. I haven't tried it as I do not have a hard drive to install to. I may try it under VirtualBox.
>>
>> On 01/20/2012 07:55 PM, Justin Harford wrote:
>>> gmrl or grml?
>>>
>>> I was following the audio tutorial, and that option did not work for me. And in their FAQ, it did not sound like it was available. Maybe I didn't read it right.
>>>
>>> I ended up running grml-debootstrap
>>>
>>> I hope it's not too much of a pain lol. Why would it be?
>>>
>>> Justin
>>> On 20-01-2012, at 19:31, Kelly Prescott wrote:
>>>
>>>> I always use gmrl2hd and it works good for me...
>>>> I have a acer netbook ad another little one that I cannot think of the brand
>>>> of.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
>>>> On Behalf Of Littlefield, Tyler
>>>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 8:27 PM
>>>> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
>>>> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?
>>>>
>>>> They do have a gRML2hd, but I've never managed to get that working, so good
>>>> luck. I always just used debootstrap and installed Debian, but that's kind
>>>> of a pain.
>>>> On 1/20/2012 7:14 PM, Justin Harford wrote:
>>>>> I actually downloaded this to take a look. I waited for the jingle and
>>>>> typed
>>>>>
>>>>> modprobe speakup_soft
>>>>> followed by
>>>>> espeakup
>>>>>
>>>>> and after I pressed enter it did eventually come up speaking, but it had
>>>> an error saying that it could not access a certain source, but I just
>>>> pressed return and it started working, review keys etc.
>>>>> Now I'm just looking for how to install it on the hard drive partition. In
>>>> the FAQ of GRML, it looks as though it is not obvious.
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Justin Harford
>>>>> On 20-01-2012, at 16:14, Glenn wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Kerry,
>>>>>> I tried these, as they sound like the same as Orca, but nothing came out
>>>>>> when navigating with those keys.
>>>>>> It must be that I did all on the same line to call up espeak.
>>>>>> Glenn
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Kerry Hoath"<kerry@gotss.net>
>>>>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for
>>>> Linux."<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 2:07 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> obviously modprobe speakup_soft
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> espeakup
>>>>>> are 2 separate commands you run after hitting q to exit the grml
>>>>>> quickstart wizard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Once speech is loaded you can use the speakup review commands to get
>>>>>> around the screen. to get keyboard echo you echo 1
>>>>>>> /sys/accessibility/speakup/key_echo or similar it is in there somewhere.
>>>>>> to move by lines use capslock u i o, words are j k l and characters m ,
>>>>>> and .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> capslock and the numbers do volume, pitch and speed.
>>>>>> There is a help key can't remember what it is but there is documentation
>>>>>> on linux-speakup.org somewhere with all the key bindings.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards, Kerry.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 20/01/2012 12:41 PM, Glenn wrote:
>>>>>>> Kerry,
>>>>>>> I downloaded the 32 bit version of GRML, and used the USB installer and
>>>>>>> put
>>>>>>> it onto my 4GB thumbdrive.
>>>>>>> I ran:
>>>>>>> modprobe speakup_soft espeakup
>>>>>>> And I got speech, but it does not echo my typing, nor can I find a way
>>>> of
>>>>>>> reviewing what is on the screen.
>>>>>>> I am familiar with Orca, in Ubuntu, but this has me stumped.
>>>>>>> This is on an Asus ePc which runs XP okay, I don't remember if I
>>>> upgraded
>>>>>>> the RAM to 1GB or 2GB, but either way, it should be enough.
>>>>>>> How do I control the speech better?
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Kerry Hoath"<kerry@gotss.net>
>>>>>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for
>>>> Linux."<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 8:48 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Speakup is included however the accessability boot options are gone.
>>>>>>> Boot the cd, wait for the beeps from the speaker, hit q to exit the
>>>>>>> quick config screen then key in
>>>>>>> modprobe speakup_soft
>>>>>>> espeakup
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You should get speech.
>>>>>>> Options to load into ram still exist on the cheatsheet as far as I can
>>>>>>> tell and you can still do
>>>>>>> <tab>     ssh=password
>>>>>>> to get an ssh server running on the box.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards, kerry.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/01/2012 10:11 AM, Marcel Oats wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi, I am fairly sure this has been answered before, so excuse me.  I
>>>>>>>> just downloaded grml2011.12 (both 64 and 32bit versions) and noticed
>>>>>>>> that their "large" distribution (around 700mb of iso) is no longer
>>>>>>>> available. They do not mention speakup support in their list of boot
>>>>>>>> options.
>>>>>>>> I am wanting to use this as you can load the squashfs into ram and have
>>>>>>>> it run from there; I usually remaster it so as additional programmes
>>>>>>>> that I have included are available, and we have software speech,
>>>> instead
>>>>>>>> of having to rely on a hardware synth.
>>>>>>>> I might have to look for another distro, and hope that it is possible
>>>> to
>>>>>>>> load the squashfs filesystem into ram as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Useful to do such things as running Terabyte's Image for Linux and
>>>>>>>> create BD backups is an example of the kinds of uses I have.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Marcel
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> Speakup mailing list
>>>>>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>>>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Speakup mailing list
>>>>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Speakup mailing list
>>>>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Speakup mailing list
>>>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Speakup mailing list
>>>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Speakup mailing list
>>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>> -- 
>>>>
>>>> Take care,
>>>> Ty
>>>> Web: http://tds-solutions.net
>>>> The Aspen project: a light-weight barebones mud engine
>>>> http://code.google.com/p/aspenmud
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my toaster.
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Speakup mailing list
>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Speakup mailing list
>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Speakup mailing list
>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?

[jeremy]

You weren't wrong, it used to be there. I unfortunately never had much 
luck getting an install to complete, wen it was. Makes me wonder if the 
grml2usb option still works as it should?
Take care.

On 1/21/2012 12:27 AM, Robert cole wrote:
> Hello, Justin.
>
> You know...I just looked at the GRML FAQ, and it looks like there is a 
> way to install GRML to a hard drive, but they do not explain how to do 
> so there. And apparently it is not supported. So the only 
> straightforward approach is that of installing a straight Debian 
> system using grml-debootstrap.
>
> I am just guessing, then, that the edition of Debian which is 
> installed does not contain the espeakup package installed...I am not 
> sure. If I can do it tonight, I'll try and install it in a virtual 
> machine and see what happens.
>
> I could have sworn I saw a grml2hd script mentioned somewhere. Sorry 
> about that.
>
> On 01/20/2012 10:08 PM, Justin Harford wrote:
>> Hi there
>>
>> Well I tried
>>
>> grml2hd
>>
>> and it said that the command was not recognized.
>>
>> It looks like the install process has changed over the last few years 
>> though. My process did not look anything like what Michael Whapples 
>> did in 2008.
>>
>> It looks like I have a system set up now, but I cannot seem to figure 
>> out how to turn on speakup. I tried what worked in the live cd:
>>
>> modprobe speakup_soft
>> espeakup
>>
>> But no beans.
>>
>> It does not recognize the command espeakup.
>>
>> Regards
>> Justin Harford
>> On 20-01-2012, at 21:20, Robert cole wrote:
>>
>>> Hello, Justin.
>>>
>>> Yes, the script is called grml2hd. I haven't tried it as I do not 
>>> have a hard drive to install to. I may try it under VirtualBox.
>>>
>>> On 01/20/2012 07:55 PM, Justin Harford wrote:
>>>> gmrl or grml?
>>>>
>>>> I was following the audio tutorial, and that option did not work 
>>>> for me. And in their FAQ, it did not sound like it was available. 
>>>> Maybe I didn't read it right.
>>>>
>>>> I ended up running grml-debootstrap
>>>>
>>>> I hope it's not too much of a pain lol. Why would it be?
>>>>
>>>> Justin
>>>> On 20-01-2012, at 19:31, Kelly Prescott wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I always use gmrl2hd and it works good for me...
>>>>> I have a acer netbook ad another little one that I cannot think of 
>>>>> the brand
>>>>> of.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca 
>>>>> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Littlefield, Tyler
>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 8:27 PM
>>>>> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
>>>>> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?
>>>>>
>>>>> They do have a gRML2hd, but I've never managed to get that 
>>>>> working, so good
>>>>> luck. I always just used debootstrap and installed Debian, but 
>>>>> that's kind
>>>>> of a pain.
>>>>> On 1/20/2012 7:14 PM, Justin Harford wrote:
>>>>>> I actually downloaded this to take a look. I waited for the 
>>>>>> jingle and
>>>>>> typed
>>>>>>
>>>>>> modprobe speakup_soft
>>>>>> followed by
>>>>>> espeakup
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and after I pressed enter it did eventually come up speaking, but 
>>>>>> it had
>>>>> an error saying that it could not access a certain source, but I just
>>>>> pressed return and it started working, review keys etc.
>>>>>> Now I'm just looking for how to install it on the hard drive 
>>>>>> partition. In
>>>>> the FAQ of GRML, it looks as though it is not obvious.
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Justin Harford
>>>>>> On 20-01-2012, at 16:14, Glenn wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Kerry,
>>>>>>> I tried these, as they sound like the same as Orca, but nothing 
>>>>>>> came out
>>>>>>> when navigating with those keys.
>>>>>>> It must be that I did all on the same line to call up espeak.
>>>>>>> Glenn
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Kerry Hoath"<kerry@gotss.net>
>>>>>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for
>>>>> Linux."<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 2:07 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> obviously modprobe speakup_soft
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> espeakup
>>>>>>> are 2 separate commands you run after hitting q to exit the grml
>>>>>>> quickstart wizard.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Once speech is loaded you can use the speakup review commands to 
>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>> around the screen. to get keyboard echo you echo 1
>>>>>>>> /sys/accessibility/speakup/key_echo or similar it is in there 
>>>>>>>> somewhere.
>>>>>>> to move by lines use capslock u i o, words are j k l and 
>>>>>>> characters m ,
>>>>>>> and .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> capslock and the numbers do volume, pitch and speed.
>>>>>>> There is a help key can't remember what it is but there is 
>>>>>>> documentation
>>>>>>> on linux-speakup.org somewhere with all the key bindings.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards, Kerry.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 20/01/2012 12:41 PM, Glenn wrote:
>>>>>>>> Kerry,
>>>>>>>> I downloaded the 32 bit version of GRML, and used the USB 
>>>>>>>> installer and
>>>>>>>> put
>>>>>>>> it onto my 4GB thumbdrive.
>>>>>>>> I ran:
>>>>>>>> modprobe speakup_soft espeakup
>>>>>>>> And I got speech, but it does not echo my typing, nor can I 
>>>>>>>> find a way
>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> reviewing what is on the screen.
>>>>>>>> I am familiar with Orca, in Ubuntu, but this has me stumped.
>>>>>>>> This is on an Asus ePc which runs XP okay, I don't remember if I
>>>>> upgraded
>>>>>>>> the RAM to 1GB or 2GB, but either way, it should be enough.
>>>>>>>> How do I control the speech better?
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Kerry Hoath"<kerry@gotss.net>
>>>>>>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for
>>>>> Linux."<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 8:48 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Speakup is included however the accessability boot options are 
>>>>>>>> gone.
>>>>>>>> Boot the cd, wait for the beeps from the speaker, hit q to exit 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> quick config screen then key in
>>>>>>>> modprobe speakup_soft
>>>>>>>> espeakup
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You should get speech.
>>>>>>>> Options to load into ram still exist on the cheatsheet as far 
>>>>>>>> as I can
>>>>>>>> tell and you can still do
>>>>>>>> <tab> ssh=password
>>>>>>>> to get an ssh server running on the box.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards, kerry.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12/01/2012 10:11 AM, Marcel Oats wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi, I am fairly sure this has been answered before, so excuse 
>>>>>>>>> me. I
>>>>>>>>> just downloaded grml2011.12 (both 64 and 32bit versions) and 
>>>>>>>>> noticed
>>>>>>>>> that their "large" distribution (around 700mb of iso) is no 
>>>>>>>>> longer
>>>>>>>>> available. They do not mention speakup support in their list 
>>>>>>>>> of boot
>>>>>>>>> options.
>>>>>>>>> I am wanting to use this as you can load the squashfs into ram 
>>>>>>>>> and have
>>>>>>>>> it run from there; I usually remaster it so as additional 
>>>>>>>>> programmes
>>>>>>>>> that I have included are available, and we have software speech,
>>>>> instead
>>>>>>>>> of having to rely on a hardware synth.
>>>>>>>>> I might have to look for another distro, and hope that it is 
>>>>>>>>> possible
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> load the squashfs filesystem into ram as well.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Useful to do such things as running Terabyte's Image for Linux 
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> create BD backups is an example of the kinds of uses I have.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Marcel
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> Speakup mailing list
>>>>>>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>>>>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> Speakup mailing list
>>>>>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>>>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> Speakup mailing list
>>>>>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>>>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Speakup mailing list
>>>>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Speakup mailing list
>>>>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Speakup mailing list
>>>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>>> -- 
>>>>>
>>>>> Take care,
>>>>> Ty
>>>>> Web: http://tds-solutions.net
>>>>> The Aspen project: a light-weight barebones mud engine
>>>>> http://code.google.com/p/aspenmud
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my toaster.
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Speakup mailing list
>>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Speakup mailing list
>>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Speakup mailing list
>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Speakup mailing list
>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
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Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?

[Robert cole]

Hello, Jeremy.


I actually installed the grml2usb package in my Ubuntu system and it 
worked just fine. It is actually what I used to create my live GRML USB 
system with, as UNetbootin's menu was a beast. When I say a "beast", I 
mean that it displayed every possible boot option for each architecture, 
as I used the hybrid image). It was awful! But grml2usb worked just fine.

On 01/20/2012 10:36 PM, jeremy wrote:
> You weren't wrong, it used to be there. I unfortunately never had much 
> luck getting an install to complete, wen it was. Makes me wonder if 
> the grml2usb option still works as it should?
> Take care.
>
> On 1/21/2012 12:27 AM, Robert cole wrote:
>> Hello, Justin.
>>
>> You know...I just looked at the GRML FAQ, and it looks like there is 
>> a way to install GRML to a hard drive, but they do not explain how to 
>> do so there. And apparently it is not supported. So the only 
>> straightforward approach is that of installing a straight Debian 
>> system using grml-debootstrap.
>>
>> I am just guessing, then, that the edition of Debian which is 
>> installed does not contain the espeakup package installed...I am not 
>> sure. If I can do it tonight, I'll try and install it in a virtual 
>> machine and see what happens.
>>
>> I could have sworn I saw a grml2hd script mentioned somewhere. Sorry 
>> about that.
>>
>> On 01/20/2012 10:08 PM, Justin Harford wrote:
>>> Hi there
>>>
>>> Well I tried
>>>
>>> grml2hd
>>>
>>> and it said that the command was not recognized.
>>>
>>> It looks like the install process has changed over the last few 
>>> years though. My process did not look anything like what Michael 
>>> Whapples did in 2008.
>>>
>>> It looks like I have a system set up now, but I cannot seem to 
>>> figure out how to turn on speakup. I tried what worked in the live cd:
>>>
>>> modprobe speakup_soft
>>> espeakup
>>>
>>> But no beans.
>>>
>>> It does not recognize the command espeakup.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Justin Harford
>>> On 20-01-2012, at 21:20, Robert cole wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello, Justin.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, the script is called grml2hd. I haven't tried it as I do not 
>>>> have a hard drive to install to. I may try it under VirtualBox.
>>>>
>>>> On 01/20/2012 07:55 PM, Justin Harford wrote:
>>>>> gmrl or grml?
>>>>>
>>>>> I was following the audio tutorial, and that option did not work 
>>>>> for me. And in their FAQ, it did not sound like it was available. 
>>>>> Maybe I didn't read it right.
>>>>>
>>>>> I ended up running grml-debootstrap
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope it's not too much of a pain lol. Why would it be?
>>>>>
>>>>> Justin
>>>>> On 20-01-2012, at 19:31, Kelly Prescott wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I always use gmrl2hd and it works good for me...
>>>>>> I have a acer netbook ad another little one that I cannot think 
>>>>>> of the brand
>>>>>> of.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca 
>>>>>> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
>>>>>> On Behalf Of Littlefield, Tyler
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 8:27 PM
>>>>>> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They do have a gRML2hd, but I've never managed to get that 
>>>>>> working, so good
>>>>>> luck. I always just used debootstrap and installed Debian, but 
>>>>>> that's kind
>>>>>> of a pain.
>>>>>> On 1/20/2012 7:14 PM, Justin Harford wrote:
>>>>>>> I actually downloaded this to take a look. I waited for the 
>>>>>>> jingle and
>>>>>>> typed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> modprobe speakup_soft
>>>>>>> followed by
>>>>>>> espeakup
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and after I pressed enter it did eventually come up speaking, 
>>>>>>> but it had
>>>>>> an error saying that it could not access a certain source, but I 
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> pressed return and it started working, review keys etc.
>>>>>>> Now I'm just looking for how to install it on the hard drive 
>>>>>>> partition. In
>>>>>> the FAQ of GRML, it looks as though it is not obvious.
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> Justin Harford
>>>>>>> On 20-01-2012, at 16:14, Glenn wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Kerry,
>>>>>>>> I tried these, as they sound like the same as Orca, but nothing 
>>>>>>>> came out
>>>>>>>> when navigating with those keys.
>>>>>>>> It must be that I did all on the same line to call up espeak.
>>>>>>>> Glenn
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Kerry Hoath"<kerry@gotss.net>
>>>>>>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for
>>>>>> Linux."<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 2:07 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> obviously modprobe speakup_soft
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> espeakup
>>>>>>>> are 2 separate commands you run after hitting q to exit the grml
>>>>>>>> quickstart wizard.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Once speech is loaded you can use the speakup review commands 
>>>>>>>> to get
>>>>>>>> around the screen. to get keyboard echo you echo 1
>>>>>>>>> /sys/accessibility/speakup/key_echo or similar it is in there 
>>>>>>>>> somewhere.
>>>>>>>> to move by lines use capslock u i o, words are j k l and 
>>>>>>>> characters m ,
>>>>>>>> and .
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> capslock and the numbers do volume, pitch and speed.
>>>>>>>> There is a help key can't remember what it is but there is 
>>>>>>>> documentation
>>>>>>>> on linux-speakup.org somewhere with all the key bindings.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards, Kerry.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 20/01/2012 12:41 PM, Glenn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Kerry,
>>>>>>>>> I downloaded the 32 bit version of GRML, and used the USB 
>>>>>>>>> installer and
>>>>>>>>> put
>>>>>>>>> it onto my 4GB thumbdrive.
>>>>>>>>> I ran:
>>>>>>>>> modprobe speakup_soft espeakup
>>>>>>>>> And I got speech, but it does not echo my typing, nor can I 
>>>>>>>>> find a way
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> reviewing what is on the screen.
>>>>>>>>> I am familiar with Orca, in Ubuntu, but this has me stumped.
>>>>>>>>> This is on an Asus ePc which runs XP okay, I don't remember if I
>>>>>> upgraded
>>>>>>>>> the RAM to 1GB or 2GB, but either way, it should be enough.
>>>>>>>>> How do I control the speech better?
>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Kerry Hoath"<kerry@gotss.net>
>>>>>>>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for
>>>>>> Linux."<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 8:48 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Speakup is included however the accessability boot options are 
>>>>>>>>> gone.
>>>>>>>>> Boot the cd, wait for the beeps from the speaker, hit q to 
>>>>>>>>> exit the
>>>>>>>>> quick config screen then key in
>>>>>>>>> modprobe speakup_soft
>>>>>>>>> espeakup
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You should get speech.
>>>>>>>>> Options to load into ram still exist on the cheatsheet as far 
>>>>>>>>> as I can
>>>>>>>>> tell and you can still do
>>>>>>>>> <tab> ssh=password
>>>>>>>>> to get an ssh server running on the box.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards, kerry.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 12/01/2012 10:11 AM, Marcel Oats wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi, I am fairly sure this has been answered before, so excuse 
>>>>>>>>>> me. I
>>>>>>>>>> just downloaded grml2011.12 (both 64 and 32bit versions) and 
>>>>>>>>>> noticed
>>>>>>>>>> that their "large" distribution (around 700mb of iso) is no 
>>>>>>>>>> longer
>>>>>>>>>> available. They do not mention speakup support in their list 
>>>>>>>>>> of boot
>>>>>>>>>> options.
>>>>>>>>>> I am wanting to use this as you can load the squashfs into 
>>>>>>>>>> ram and have
>>>>>>>>>> it run from there; I usually remaster it so as additional 
>>>>>>>>>> programmes
>>>>>>>>>> that I have included are available, and we have software speech,
>>>>>> instead
>>>>>>>>>> of having to rely on a hardware synth.
>>>>>>>>>> I might have to look for another distro, and hope that it is 
>>>>>>>>>> possible
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> load the squashfs filesystem into ram as well.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Useful to do such things as running Terabyte's Image for 
>>>>>>>>>> Linux and
>>>>>>>>>> create BD backups is an example of the kinds of uses I have.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Marcel
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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>>>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Take care,
>>>>>> Ty
>>>>>> Web: http://tds-solutions.net
>>>>>> The Aspen project: a light-weight barebones mud engine
>>>>>> http://code.google.com/p/aspenmud
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my toaster.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>>>>
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Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?

[Marcel Oats]

Hi, I have had to run the latest grml2hd from
/etc/shared/grml2hd
I believe, though this may not be the correct path.  It would appear that 
you are not able to run it from anywhere anymore.

Also, I get frustrated at the fact that they are not running the same script 
to initialize or unmute the soundcard that they do when you boot the live 
cd, as sound is muted on a fresh grml2hd installation.

Marcel


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Justin Harford" <blindstein@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 7:08 PM
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?

> Hi there
>
> Well I tried
>
> grml2hd
>
> and it said that the command was not recognized.
>
> It looks like the install process has changed over the last few years 
> though. My process did not look anything like what Michael Whapples did in 
> 2008.
>
> It looks like I have a system set up now, but I cannot seem to figure out 
> how to turn on speakup. I tried what worked in the live cd:
>
> modprobe speakup_soft
> espeakup
>
> But no beans.
>
> It does not recognize the command espeakup.
>
> Regards
> Justin Harford
> On 20-01-2012, at 21:20, Robert cole wrote:
>
>> Hello, Justin.
>>
>> Yes, the script is called grml2hd. I haven't tried it as I do not have a 
>> hard drive to install to. I may try it under VirtualBox.
>>
>> On 01/20/2012 07:55 PM, Justin Harford wrote:
>>> gmrl or grml?
>>>
>>> I was following the audio tutorial, and that option did not work for me. 
>>> And in their FAQ, it did not sound like it was available. Maybe I didn't 
>>> read it right.
>>>
>>> I ended up running grml-debootstrap
>>>
>>> I hope it's not too much of a pain lol. Why would it be?
>>>
>>> Justin
>>> On 20-01-2012, at 19:31, Kelly Prescott wrote:
>>>
>>>> I always use gmrl2hd and it works good for me...
>>>> I have a acer netbook ad another little one that I cannot think of the 
>>>> brand
>>>> of.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca 
>>>> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
>>>> On Behalf Of Littlefield, Tyler
>>>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 8:27 PM
>>>> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
>>>> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?
>>>>
>>>> They do have a gRML2hd, but I've never managed to get that working, so 
>>>> good
>>>> luck. I always just used debootstrap and installed Debian, but that's 
>>>> kind
>>>> of a pain.
>>>> On 1/20/2012 7:14 PM, Justin Harford wrote:
>>>>> I actually downloaded this to take a look. I waited for the jingle and
>>>>> typed
>>>>>
>>>>> modprobe speakup_soft
>>>>> followed by
>>>>> espeakup
>>>>>
>>>>> and after I pressed enter it did eventually come up speaking, but it 
>>>>> had
>>>> an error saying that it could not access a certain source, but I just
>>>> pressed return and it started working, review keys etc.
>>>>> Now I'm just looking for how to install it on the hard drive 
>>>>> partition. In
>>>> the FAQ of GRML, it looks as though it is not obvious.
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Justin Harford
>>>>> On 20-01-2012, at 16:14, Glenn wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Kerry,
>>>>>> I tried these, as they sound like the same as Orca, but nothing came 
>>>>>> out
>>>>>> when navigating with those keys.
>>>>>> It must be that I did all on the same line to call up espeak.
>>>>>> Glenn
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Kerry Hoath"<kerry@gotss.net>
>>>>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for
>>>> Linux."<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 2:07 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> obviously modprobe speakup_soft
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> espeakup
>>>>>> are 2 separate commands you run after hitting q to exit the grml
>>>>>> quickstart wizard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Once speech is loaded you can use the speakup review commands to get
>>>>>> around the screen. to get keyboard echo you echo 1
>>>>>>> /sys/accessibility/speakup/key_echo or similar it is in there 
>>>>>>> somewhere.
>>>>>> to move by lines use capslock u i o, words are j k l and characters m 
>>>>>> ,
>>>>>> and .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> capslock and the numbers do volume, pitch and speed.
>>>>>> There is a help key can't remember what it is but there is 
>>>>>> documentation
>>>>>> on linux-speakup.org somewhere with all the key bindings.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards, Kerry.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 20/01/2012 12:41 PM, Glenn wrote:
>>>>>>> Kerry,
>>>>>>> I downloaded the 32 bit version of GRML, and used the USB installer 
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> put
>>>>>>> it onto my 4GB thumbdrive.
>>>>>>> I ran:
>>>>>>> modprobe speakup_soft espeakup
>>>>>>> And I got speech, but it does not echo my typing, nor can I find a 
>>>>>>> way
>>>> of
>>>>>>> reviewing what is on the screen.
>>>>>>> I am familiar with Orca, in Ubuntu, but this has me stumped.
>>>>>>> This is on an Asus ePc which runs XP okay, I don't remember if I
>>>> upgraded
>>>>>>> the RAM to 1GB or 2GB, but either way, it should be enough.
>>>>>>> How do I control the speech better?
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Kerry Hoath"<kerry@gotss.net>
>>>>>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for
>>>> Linux."<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 8:48 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Speakup is included however the accessability boot options are gone.
>>>>>>> Boot the cd, wait for the beeps from the speaker, hit q to exit the
>>>>>>> quick config screen then key in
>>>>>>> modprobe speakup_soft
>>>>>>> espeakup
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You should get speech.
>>>>>>> Options to load into ram still exist on the cheatsheet as far as I 
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> tell and you can still do
>>>>>>> <tab>    ssh=password
>>>>>>> to get an ssh server running on the box.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards, kerry.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/01/2012 10:11 AM, Marcel Oats wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi, I am fairly sure this has been answered before, so excuse me. 
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> just downloaded grml2011.12 (both 64 and 32bit versions) and 
>>>>>>>> noticed
>>>>>>>> that their "large" distribution (around 700mb of iso) is no longer
>>>>>>>> available. They do not mention speakup support in their list of 
>>>>>>>> boot
>>>>>>>> options.
>>>>>>>> I am wanting to use this as you can load the squashfs into ram and 
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> it run from there; I usually remaster it so as additional 
>>>>>>>> programmes
>>>>>>>> that I have included are available, and we have software speech,
>>>> instead
>>>>>>>> of having to rely on a hardware synth.
>>>>>>>> I might have to look for another distro, and hope that it is 
>>>>>>>> possible
>>>> to
>>>>>>>> load the squashfs filesystem into ram as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Useful to do such things as running Terabyte's Image for Linux and
>>>>>>>> create BD backups is an example of the kinds of uses I have.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Marcel
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> Speakup mailing list
>>>>>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>>>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Speakup mailing list
>>>>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Speakup mailing list
>>>>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Speakup mailing list
>>>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Speakup mailing list
>>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>>
>>>> Take care,
>>>> Ty
>>>> Web: http://tds-solutions.net
>>>> The Aspen project: a light-weight barebones mud engine
>>>> http://code.google.com/p/aspenmud
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my toaster.
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>>
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>>> _______________________________________________
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