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[76.20.104.251]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x18sm18488554ibi.2.2012.01.20.22.27.10 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 20 Jan 2012 22:27:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F1A5ABD.9040001@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 22:27:09 -0800 From: Robert cole User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases? References: <82096162F2F846909B1B5FD82E869A59@Audio1> <4F0E49ED.6010002@gotss.net> <4F1920CD.8060705@gotss.net> <474DFF5D25E74818ACC864D7B5F20F49@your2c061f0461> <15F7D1B4-6416-4399-A50A-7B40E2A3D6B2@gmail.com> <4F1A2263.80306@tysdomain.com> <000001ccd7ed$37312390$a5936ab0$@org> <5FB7C071-15C8-40A7-B13B-BC2307F2F7D9@gmail.com> <4F1A4B1B.30007@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 06:27:11 -0000 Hello, Justin. You know...I just looked at the GRML FAQ, and it looks like there is a way to install GRML to a hard drive, but they do not explain how to do so there. And apparently it is not supported. So the only straightforward approach is that of installing a straight Debian system using grml-debootstrap. I am just guessing, then, that the edition of Debian which is installed does not contain the espeakup package installed...I am not sure. If I can do it tonight, I'll try and install it in a virtual machine and see what happens. I could have sworn I saw a grml2hd script mentioned somewhere. Sorry about that. On 01/20/2012 10:08 PM, Justin Harford wrote: > Hi there > > Well I tried > > grml2hd > > and it said that the command was not recognized. > > It looks like the install process has changed over the last few years though. My process did not look anything like what Michael Whapples did in 2008. > > It looks like I have a system set up now, but I cannot seem to figure out how to turn on speakup. I tried what worked in the live cd: > > modprobe speakup_soft > espeakup > > But no beans. > > It does not recognize the command espeakup. > > Regards > Justin Harford > On 20-01-2012, at 21:20, Robert cole wrote: > >> Hello, Justin. >> >> Yes, the script is called grml2hd. I haven't tried it as I do not have a hard drive to install to. I may try it under VirtualBox. >> >> On 01/20/2012 07:55 PM, Justin Harford wrote: >>> gmrl or grml? >>> >>> I was following the audio tutorial, and that option did not work for me. And in their FAQ, it did not sound like it was available. Maybe I didn't read it right. >>> >>> I ended up running grml-debootstrap >>> >>> I hope it's not too much of a pain lol. Why would it be? >>> >>> Justin >>> On 20-01-2012, at 19:31, Kelly Prescott wrote: >>> >>>> I always use gmrl2hd and it works good for me... >>>> I have a acer netbook ad another little one that I cannot think of the brand >>>> of. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] >>>> On Behalf Of Littlefield, Tyler >>>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 8:27 PM >>>> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. >>>> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases? >>>> >>>> They do have a gRML2hd, but I've never managed to get that working, so good >>>> luck. I always just used debootstrap and installed Debian, but that's kind >>>> of a pain. >>>> On 1/20/2012 7:14 PM, Justin Harford wrote: >>>>> I actually downloaded this to take a look. I waited for the jingle and >>>>> typed >>>>> >>>>> modprobe speakup_soft >>>>> followed by >>>>> espeakup >>>>> >>>>> and after I pressed enter it did eventually come up speaking, but it had >>>> an error saying that it could not access a certain source, but I just >>>> pressed return and it started working, review keys etc. >>>>> Now I'm just looking for how to install it on the hard drive partition. In >>>> the FAQ of GRML, it looks as though it is not obvious. >>>>> Regards >>>>> Justin Harford >>>>> On 20-01-2012, at 16:14, Glenn wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Kerry, >>>>>> I tried these, as they sound like the same as Orca, but nothing came out >>>>>> when navigating with those keys. >>>>>> It must be that I did all on the same line to call up espeak. >>>>>> Glenn >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Kerry Hoath" >>>>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for >>>> Linux." >>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 2:07 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> obviously modprobe speakup_soft >>>>>> and >>>>>> espeakup >>>>>> are 2 separate commands you run after hitting q to exit the grml >>>>>> quickstart wizard. >>>>>> >>>>>> Once speech is loaded you can use the speakup review commands to get >>>>>> around the screen. to get keyboard echo you echo 1 >>>>>>> /sys/accessibility/speakup/key_echo or similar it is in there somewhere. >>>>>> to move by lines use capslock u i o, words are j k l and characters m , >>>>>> and . >>>>>> >>>>>> capslock and the numbers do volume, pitch and speed. >>>>>> There is a help key can't remember what it is but there is documentation >>>>>> on linux-speakup.org somewhere with all the key bindings. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, Kerry. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 20/01/2012 12:41 PM, Glenn wrote: >>>>>>> Kerry, >>>>>>> I downloaded the 32 bit version of GRML, and used the USB installer and >>>>>>> put >>>>>>> it onto my 4GB thumbdrive. >>>>>>> I ran: >>>>>>> modprobe speakup_soft espeakup >>>>>>> And I got speech, but it does not echo my typing, nor can I find a way >>>> of >>>>>>> reviewing what is on the screen. >>>>>>> I am familiar with Orca, in Ubuntu, but this has me stumped. >>>>>>> This is on an Asus ePc which runs XP okay, I don't remember if I >>>> upgraded >>>>>>> the RAM to 1GB or 2GB, but either way, it should be enough. >>>>>>> How do I control the speech better? >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Kerry Hoath" >>>>>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for >>>> Linux." >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 8:48 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Speakup is included however the accessability boot options are gone. >>>>>>> Boot the cd, wait for the beeps from the speaker, hit q to exit the >>>>>>> quick config screen then key in >>>>>>> modprobe speakup_soft >>>>>>> espeakup >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You should get speech. >>>>>>> Options to load into ram still exist on the cheatsheet as far as I can >>>>>>> tell and you can still do >>>>>>> ssh=password >>>>>>> to get an ssh server running on the box. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, kerry. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 12/01/2012 10:11 AM, Marcel Oats wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi, I am fairly sure this has been answered before, so excuse me. I >>>>>>>> just downloaded grml2011.12 (both 64 and 32bit versions) and noticed >>>>>>>> that their "large" distribution (around 700mb of iso) is no longer >>>>>>>> available. They do not mention speakup support in their list of boot >>>>>>>> options. >>>>>>>> I am wanting to use this as you can load the squashfs into ram and have >>>>>>>> it run from there; I usually remaster it so as additional programmes >>>>>>>> that I have included are available, and we have software speech, >>>> instead >>>>>>>> of having to rely on a hardware synth. >>>>>>>> I might have to look for another distro, and hope that it is possible >>>> to >>>>>>>> load the squashfs filesystem into ram as well. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Useful to do such things as running Terabyte's Image for Linux and >>>>>>>> create BD backups is an example of the kinds of uses I have. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> Marcel >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Speakup mailing list >>>>>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>>>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Speakup mailing list >>>>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Speakup mailing list >>>>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Speakup mailing list >>>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Speakup mailing list >>>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Speakup mailing list >>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Take care, >>>> Ty >>>> Web: http://tds-solutions.net >>>> The Aspen project: a light-weight barebones mud engine >>>> http://code.google.com/p/aspenmud >>>> >>>> Sent from my toaster. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Speakup mailing list >>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Speakup mailing list >>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Speakup mailing list >>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup