From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-iy0-f170.google.com (mail-iy0-f170.google.com [209.85.210.170]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9691BC1A288 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 01:49:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by iaoo28 with SMTP id o28so2201370iao.29 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2012 22:49:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=VG9ahmdKVyN9U9pF38UO76riA8WbTJNJAWoCcBkxBhw=; b=hOF5AwtKadIgSopEi1KxLYQh1/DCDCUQaCUXmd9RAiTfCsM+I+A9UsWwxRpDFa7vRe hVvzjn/U1Ge60ky/KKrGOTtSxK7Jw3VL8sZ0XKpxiYGMEqFsW4uMlm7rIFPXt6Btpo1i Y8xeGjcnlOXhF9bLiFrbzMJ+hhfu/y3W/EEp4= Received: by 10.42.135.138 with SMTP id p10mr678331ict.25.1327128576347; Fri, 20 Jan 2012 22:49:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.125] (c-76-20-104-251.hsd1.ca.comcast.net. [76.20.104.251]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q30sm18723535ibc.1.2012.01.20.22.49.35 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 20 Jan 2012 22:49:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F1A5FFE.8090105@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 22:49:34 -0800 From: Robert cole User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases? References: <82096162F2F846909B1B5FD82E869A59@Audio1> <4F0E49ED.6010002@gotss.net> <4F1920CD.8060705@gotss.net> <474DFF5D25E74818ACC864D7B5F20F49@your2c061f0461> <15F7D1B4-6416-4399-A50A-7B40E2A3D6B2@gmail.com> <4F1A2263.80306@tysdomain.com> <000001ccd7ed$37312390$a5936ab0$@org> <5FB7C071-15C8-40A7-B13B-BC2307F2F7D9@gmail.com> <4F1A4B1B.30007@gmail.com> <4F1A5ABD.9040001@gmail.com> <4F1A5CE4.2030702@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4F1A5CE4.2030702@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 06:49:35 -0000 Hello, Jeremy. I actually installed the grml2usb package in my Ubuntu system and it worked just fine. It is actually what I used to create my live GRML USB system with, as UNetbootin's menu was a beast. When I say a "beast", I mean that it displayed every possible boot option for each architecture, as I used the hybrid image). It was awful! But grml2usb worked just fine. On 01/20/2012 10:36 PM, jeremy wrote: > You weren't wrong, it used to be there. I unfortunately never had much > luck getting an install to complete, wen it was. Makes me wonder if > the grml2usb option still works as it should? > Take care. > > On 1/21/2012 12:27 AM, Robert cole wrote: >> Hello, Justin. >> >> You know...I just looked at the GRML FAQ, and it looks like there is >> a way to install GRML to a hard drive, but they do not explain how to >> do so there. And apparently it is not supported. So the only >> straightforward approach is that of installing a straight Debian >> system using grml-debootstrap. >> >> I am just guessing, then, that the edition of Debian which is >> installed does not contain the espeakup package installed...I am not >> sure. If I can do it tonight, I'll try and install it in a virtual >> machine and see what happens. >> >> I could have sworn I saw a grml2hd script mentioned somewhere. Sorry >> about that. >> >> On 01/20/2012 10:08 PM, Justin Harford wrote: >>> Hi there >>> >>> Well I tried >>> >>> grml2hd >>> >>> and it said that the command was not recognized. >>> >>> It looks like the install process has changed over the last few >>> years though. My process did not look anything like what Michael >>> Whapples did in 2008. >>> >>> It looks like I have a system set up now, but I cannot seem to >>> figure out how to turn on speakup. I tried what worked in the live cd: >>> >>> modprobe speakup_soft >>> espeakup >>> >>> But no beans. >>> >>> It does not recognize the command espeakup. >>> >>> Regards >>> Justin Harford >>> On 20-01-2012, at 21:20, Robert cole wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, Justin. >>>> >>>> Yes, the script is called grml2hd. I haven't tried it as I do not >>>> have a hard drive to install to. I may try it under VirtualBox. >>>> >>>> On 01/20/2012 07:55 PM, Justin Harford wrote: >>>>> gmrl or grml? >>>>> >>>>> I was following the audio tutorial, and that option did not work >>>>> for me. And in their FAQ, it did not sound like it was available. >>>>> Maybe I didn't read it right. >>>>> >>>>> I ended up running grml-debootstrap >>>>> >>>>> I hope it's not too much of a pain lol. Why would it be? >>>>> >>>>> Justin >>>>> On 20-01-2012, at 19:31, Kelly Prescott wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I always use gmrl2hd and it works good for me... >>>>>> I have a acer netbook ad another little one that I cannot think >>>>>> of the brand >>>>>> of. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca >>>>>> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] >>>>>> On Behalf Of Littlefield, Tyler >>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 8:27 PM >>>>>> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. >>>>>> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases? >>>>>> >>>>>> They do have a gRML2hd, but I've never managed to get that >>>>>> working, so good >>>>>> luck. I always just used debootstrap and installed Debian, but >>>>>> that's kind >>>>>> of a pain. >>>>>> On 1/20/2012 7:14 PM, Justin Harford wrote: >>>>>>> I actually downloaded this to take a look. I waited for the >>>>>>> jingle and >>>>>>> typed >>>>>>> >>>>>>> modprobe speakup_soft >>>>>>> followed by >>>>>>> espeakup >>>>>>> >>>>>>> and after I pressed enter it did eventually come up speaking, >>>>>>> but it had >>>>>> an error saying that it could not access a certain source, but I >>>>>> just >>>>>> pressed return and it started working, review keys etc. >>>>>>> Now I'm just looking for how to install it on the hard drive >>>>>>> partition. In >>>>>> the FAQ of GRML, it looks as though it is not obvious. >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> Justin Harford >>>>>>> On 20-01-2012, at 16:14, Glenn wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Kerry, >>>>>>>> I tried these, as they sound like the same as Orca, but nothing >>>>>>>> came out >>>>>>>> when navigating with those keys. >>>>>>>> It must be that I did all on the same line to call up espeak. >>>>>>>> Glenn >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "Kerry Hoath" >>>>>>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for >>>>>> Linux." >>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 2:07 AM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> obviously modprobe speakup_soft >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> espeakup >>>>>>>> are 2 separate commands you run after hitting q to exit the grml >>>>>>>> quickstart wizard. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Once speech is loaded you can use the speakup review commands >>>>>>>> to get >>>>>>>> around the screen. to get keyboard echo you echo 1 >>>>>>>>> /sys/accessibility/speakup/key_echo or similar it is in there >>>>>>>>> somewhere. >>>>>>>> to move by lines use capslock u i o, words are j k l and >>>>>>>> characters m , >>>>>>>> and . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> capslock and the numbers do volume, pitch and speed. >>>>>>>> There is a help key can't remember what it is but there is >>>>>>>> documentation >>>>>>>> on linux-speakup.org somewhere with all the key bindings. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, Kerry. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 20/01/2012 12:41 PM, Glenn wrote: >>>>>>>>> Kerry, >>>>>>>>> I downloaded the 32 bit version of GRML, and used the USB >>>>>>>>> installer and >>>>>>>>> put >>>>>>>>> it onto my 4GB thumbdrive. >>>>>>>>> I ran: >>>>>>>>> modprobe speakup_soft espeakup >>>>>>>>> And I got speech, but it does not echo my typing, nor can I >>>>>>>>> find a way >>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> reviewing what is on the screen. >>>>>>>>> I am familiar with Orca, in Ubuntu, but this has me stumped. >>>>>>>>> This is on an Asus ePc which runs XP okay, I don't remember if I >>>>>> upgraded >>>>>>>>> the RAM to 1GB or 2GB, but either way, it should be enough. >>>>>>>>> How do I control the speech better? >>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>> From: "Kerry Hoath" >>>>>>>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for >>>>>> Linux." >>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 8:48 PM >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Speakup is included however the accessability boot options are >>>>>>>>> gone. >>>>>>>>> Boot the cd, wait for the beeps from the speaker, hit q to >>>>>>>>> exit the >>>>>>>>> quick config screen then key in >>>>>>>>> modprobe speakup_soft >>>>>>>>> espeakup >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You should get speech. >>>>>>>>> Options to load into ram still exist on the cheatsheet as far >>>>>>>>> as I can >>>>>>>>> tell and you can still do >>>>>>>>> ssh=password >>>>>>>>> to get an ssh server running on the box. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards, kerry. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 12/01/2012 10:11 AM, Marcel Oats wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Hi, I am fairly sure this has been answered before, so excuse >>>>>>>>>> me. I >>>>>>>>>> just downloaded grml2011.12 (both 64 and 32bit versions) and >>>>>>>>>> noticed >>>>>>>>>> that their "large" distribution (around 700mb of iso) is no >>>>>>>>>> longer >>>>>>>>>> available. They do not mention speakup support in their list >>>>>>>>>> of boot >>>>>>>>>> options. >>>>>>>>>> I am wanting to use this as you can load the squashfs into >>>>>>>>>> ram and have >>>>>>>>>> it run from there; I usually remaster it so as additional >>>>>>>>>> programmes >>>>>>>>>> that I have included are available, and we have software speech, >>>>>> instead >>>>>>>>>> of having to rely on a hardware synth. >>>>>>>>>> I might have to look for another distro, and hope that it is >>>>>>>>>> possible >>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> load the squashfs filesystem into ram as well. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Useful to do such things as running Terabyte's Image for >>>>>>>>>> Linux and >>>>>>>>>> create BD backups is an example of the kinds of uses I have. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>> Marcel >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Speakup mailing list >>>>>>>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>>>>>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Speakup mailing list >>>>>>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>>>>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Speakup mailing list >>>>>>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>>>>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Speakup mailing list >>>>>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>>>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Speakup mailing list >>>>>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>>>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Speakup mailing list >>>>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> Take care, >>>>>> Ty >>>>>> Web: http://tds-solutions.net >>>>>> The Aspen project: a light-weight barebones mud engine >>>>>> http://code.google.com/p/aspenmud >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my toaster. >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Speakup mailing list >>>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Speakup mailing list >>>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Speakup mailing list >>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Speakup mailing list >>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Speakup mailing list >>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup