two more questions about gnome?

two more questions about gnome?

[Alex Snow]

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Hi all.
My first question is kind of stupid. How do you go about starting gnome?
and second, which voice for festival does gnopernicus use by default?

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Re: two more questions about gnome?

[Ryan Mann]

First you should make sure accessability is enabled by using the 
command: gconftool-2 --type bool --set 
/desktop/gnome/interface/accessibility true 
I have the following in my .xinitrc
exec gnome-session
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Alex Snow 
wrote:

> Hi all.
> My first question is kind of stupid. How do you go about starting gnome?
> and second, which voice for festival does gnopernicus use by default?
> 

Re: two more questions about gnome?

[Scott Howell]

Geez I've been out of pocket for some time and I assume Gnopernicous has 
been officially released? If so where could I obtain more info as this type 
of program might be handy for some plans I have.
Any info appreciated.

Scott


At 07:24 PM 9/24/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi all.
>My first question is kind of stupid. How do you go about starting gnome?
>and second, which voice for festival does gnopernicus use by default?

Re: two more questions about gnome?

[Kenny Hitt]

Scott, if you install gnome 2.4, you will get gnopernicus as part of
gnome.

          Kenny

On Thu, Sep 25, 2003 at 07:36:58AM -0400, Scott Howell wrote:
> Geez I've been out of pocket for some time and I assume Gnopernicous has 
> been officially released? If so where could I obtain more info as this type 
> of program might be handy for some plans I have.
> Any info appreciated.
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
> At 07:24 PM 9/24/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> >Hi all.
> >My first question is kind of stupid. How do you go about starting gnome?
> >and second, which voice for festival does gnopernicus use by default?
> 
> 
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Re: two more questions about gnome?

[Scott Howell]

Thanks Kenny. I will assume that is available as a debian pkg and I'll 
assume I would get it if I'm running the sid or woody version? I won't know 
much till I resolve the connection problems with my cable modem and get my 
Linux box talking to their dhcp server. I might be on track, but won't know 
till this weekend as I have to sit down and do some fresh installing as my 
hacking probably has messed up some stuff.<grin> The issue might be that my 
modem wasn't getting connected to their server, but they claim they can 
ping it now so will have to wait and see if this does it. If not I'll 
switch to plan X once I figure out what X will be.<grin>

tnx

Oh, is theer some document that will explain what I need to read that will 
get me up to speed on how it works , how to configure stuff etc. perhaps. 
Maybe I'll try to find the Gnopernicous site and do some rtfm there.

tnx


At 07:10 AM 9/25/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>Scott, if you install gnome 2.4, you will get gnopernicus as part of
>gnome.
>
>           Kenny
>
>On Thu, Sep 25, 2003 at 07:36:58AM -0400, Scott Howell wrote:
> > Geez I've been out of pocket for some time and I assume Gnopernicous has
> > been officially released? If so where could I obtain more info as this 
> type
> > of program might be handy for some plans I have.
> > Any info appreciated.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
> > At 07:24 PM 9/24/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> > >Hi all.
> > >My first question is kind of stupid. How do you go about starting gnome?
> > >and second, which voice for festival does gnopernicus use by default?
> >
> >
> >
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Re: two more questions about gnome?

[Kenny Hitt]

Hi.  I'm afraid there aren't any "official" Debian packages for Gnome
2.4.  Woody ships with Gnome 1.44.  There are back ports of Gnome 2.2
for Woody, but I haven't seen any 2.4 packages for Woody.
Sid still has Gnome 2.2 until Sarge gets all the Gnome 2.2 packages.
Once Gnome 2.2 gets into Sarge, the developers plan to start uploading
Gnome 2.4 to Sid.  There is an unofficial set of Gnome 2.4 packages for
Sid, but I haven't tried them.

I don't know of a doc that explains it all in one file.  Once you're
back up, drop by the reflector and Gene or I can help you get it
working.

          Kenny
	  
On Thu, Sep 25, 2003 at 11:21:49AM -0400, Scott Howell wrote:
> Thanks Kenny. I will assume that is available as a debian pkg and I'll 
> assume I would get it if I'm running the sid or woody version? I won't know 
> much till I resolve the connection problems with my cable modem and get my 
> Linux box talking to their dhcp server. I might be on track, but won't know 
> till this weekend as I have to sit down and do some fresh installing as my 
> hacking probably has messed up some stuff.<grin> The issue might be that my 
> modem wasn't getting connected to their server, but they claim they can 
> ping it now so will have to wait and see if this does it. If not I'll 
> switch to plan X once I figure out what X will be.<grin>
> 
> tnx
> 
> Oh, is theer some document that will explain what I need to read that will 
> get me up to speed on how it works , how to configure stuff etc. perhaps. 
> Maybe I'll try to find the Gnopernicous site and do some rtfm there.
> 
> tnx
> 
> 
> At 07:10 AM 9/25/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> >Scott, if you install gnome 2.4, you will get gnopernicus as part of
> >gnome.
> >
> >          Kenny
> >
> >On Thu, Sep 25, 2003 at 07:36:58AM -0400, Scott Howell wrote:
> >> Geez I've been out of pocket for some time and I assume Gnopernicous has
> >> been officially released? If so where could I obtain more info as this 
> >type
> >> of program might be handy for some plans I have.
> >> Any info appreciated.
> >>
> >> Scott
> >>
> >>
> >> At 07:24 PM 9/24/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> >> >Hi all.
> >> >My first question is kind of stupid. How do you go about starting gnome?
> >> >and second, which voice for festival does gnopernicus use by default?
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Gnome for redhat 9

[Sina Bahram]

Hello, I wanted to know how I could get gnome 2.4 on redhat 9. I have
downloaded all the latest updates and rpms for redhat 9, and I am
running it on a box with 800mhz and 384 megs of ram. I would appreciate
how to get it up and running so I could get gnoppernicus. If anyone
could give me some details, I would appreciate it.

Thanks,
Sina

Re: Gnome for redhat 9

[Ryan Mann]

You can get gnome 2.4 by installing apt4rpm and putting the following in 
/etc/apt/sources.list
rpm http://people.ecsc.co.uk/~matt/downloads/apt redhat-9-i386 gnome 
extras dep
You can find out more about apt4rpm by going to www.freshrpms.net. 
On Thu, 
25 Sep 2003, Sina Bahram wrote:

> Hello, I wanted to know how I could get gnome 2.4 on redhat 9. I have
> downloaded all the latest updates and rpms for redhat 9, and I am
> running it on a box with 800mhz and 384 megs of ram. I would appreciate
> how to get it up and running so I could get gnoppernicus. If anyone
> could give me some details, I would appreciate it.
> 
> Thanks,
> Sina
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Gnome for redhat 9

[Sina Bahram]

I am not familiar with the apt-get command seeing as how I am a total
newbie to linux and in turn to redhat; however, when I did that command,
I received a command not found error. Could you tell me how else to go
about this?

Take care,
Sina

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From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Ryan Mann
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 2:45 PM
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: Gnome for redhat 9


I think I did apt-get install gnome to install the gnome packages. 
On Thu, 
25 Sep 2003, Ryan Mann wrote:

> You can get gnome 2.4 by installing apt4rpm and putting the following 
> in
> /etc/apt/sources.list
> rpm http://people.ecsc.co.uk/~matt/downloads/apt redhat-9-i386 gnome 
> extras dep
> You can find out more about apt4rpm by going to www.freshrpms.net. 
> On Thu, 
> 25 Sep 2003, Sina Bahram wrote:
> 
> > Hello, I wanted to know how I could get gnome 2.4 on redhat 9. I 
> > have downloaded all the latest updates and rpms for redhat 9, and I 
> > am running it on a box with 800mhz and 384 megs of ram. I would 
> > appreciate how to get it up and running so I could get gnoppernicus.

> > If anyone could give me some details, I would appreciate it.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Sina
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: Gnome for redhat 9

[Ryan Mann]

I think I did apt-get install gnome to install the gnome packages. 
On Thu, 
25 Sep 2003, Ryan Mann wrote:

> You can get gnome 2.4 by installing apt4rpm and putting the following in 
> /etc/apt/sources.list
> rpm http://people.ecsc.co.uk/~matt/downloads/apt redhat-9-i386 gnome 
> extras dep
> You can find out more about apt4rpm by going to www.freshrpms.net. 
> On Thu, 
> 25 Sep 2003, Sina Bahram wrote:
> 
> > Hello, I wanted to know how I could get gnome 2.4 on redhat 9. I have
> > downloaded all the latest updates and rpms for redhat 9, and I am
> > running it on a box with 800mhz and 384 megs of ram. I would appreciate
> > how to get it up and running so I could get gnoppernicus. If anyone
> > could give me some details, I would appreciate it.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Sina
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
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Re: Gnome for redhat 9

[Scott Howell]

Ay thanks very much for the info and I'll check it out.

Scott


At 01:15 PM 9/25/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>You can get gnome 2.4 by installing apt4rpm and putting the following in
>/etc/apt/sources.list
>rpm http://people.ecsc.co.uk/~matt/downloads/apt redhat-9-i386 gnome
>extras dep
>You can find out more about apt4rpm by going to www.freshrpms.net.
>On Thu,
>25 Sep 2003, Sina Bahram wrote:
>
> > Hello, I wanted to know how I could get gnome 2.4 on redhat 9. I have
> > downloaded all the latest updates and rpms for redhat 9, and I am
> > running it on a box with 800mhz and 384 megs of ram. I would appreciate
> > how to get it up and running so I could get gnoppernicus. If anyone
> > could give me some details, I would appreciate it.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Sina
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
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RE: Gnome for redhat 9

[Ryan Mann]

Yu can go to www.freshrpms.net to download apt4rpm.  After you install 
apt4rpm you will have apt-get.
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003, Sina Bahram wrote:

> I am not familiar with the apt-get command seeing as how I am a total
> newbie to linux and in turn to redhat; however, when I did that command,
> I received a command not found error. Could you tell me how else to go
> about this?
> 
> Take care,
> Sina
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Ryan Mann
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 2:45 PM
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: Re: Gnome for redhat 9
> 
> 
> I think I did apt-get install gnome to install the gnome packages. 
> On Thu, 
> 25 Sep 2003, Ryan Mann wrote:
> 
> > You can get gnome 2.4 by installing apt4rpm and putting the following 
> > in
> > /etc/apt/sources.list
> > rpm http://people.ecsc.co.uk/~matt/downloads/apt redhat-9-i386 gnome 
> > extras dep
> > You can find out more about apt4rpm by going to www.freshrpms.net. 
> > On Thu, 
> > 25 Sep 2003, Sina Bahram wrote:
> > 
> > > Hello, I wanted to know how I could get gnome 2.4 on redhat 9. I 
> > > have downloaded all the latest updates and rpms for redhat 9, and I 
> > > am running it on a box with 800mhz and 384 megs of ram. I would 
> > > appreciate how to get it up and running so I could get gnoppernicus.
> 
> > > If anyone could give me some details, I would appreciate it.
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > Sina
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca 
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > 
> > 
> > 
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RE: Gnome for redhat 9

[Scott Howell]

Apt is a Debian specific program.

At 02:16 PM 9/25/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>I am not familiar with the apt-get command seeing as how I am a total
>newbie to linux and in turn to redhat; however, when I did that command,

RE: Gnome for redhat 9

[Sina Bahram]

Ok, I did that, but now I have a few problems. I got apt4rpm. I ran
apt-get and upgraded the packages, and installed all the latest stuff it
had to offer. However when I type

apt-get install gnome

I get an error saying that while gnome was found in the database it can
not be installed. Now I read another message on here about changing a
line in my sources.list file, but this is a little difficult for me to
do because of my unfamiliarity with text editers like VI. I tried ftping
the file to an ftp I have access too, then downloading it onto my
windows box, changing the appropriate line, and then uploading it back;
however, as expected the file didn't work when I tried
 
apt-get install gnome

It said some error on a line, which I gathered to simply be a difference
in line breaks or any other linux/windows incompatibility. So is there
anyway I can get this sources.list file, from an ftp, since I can use
ftp when I ssh into the box I'm trying to install gnome on. 

Sorry if this is unclear, and I am extremely fustraited at myself, since
if I had to do something like this in windows, it would take me the all
of three seconds or less *sigh*. But I'm willing to do whatever, so
please let me know.

Thanks again,
Sina

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Ryan Mann
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 3:35 PM
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: RE: Gnome for redhat 9


Yu can go to www.freshrpms.net to download apt4rpm.  After you install 
apt4rpm you will have apt-get.

RE: Gnome for redhat 9

[White, Matt]

The best fix for this problem is to learn something like vi; here are a
few tips.

To open a file for editing, type

vi /etc/apt/sources.list

obviously substituting the appropriate path for this file.

Next, press escape so you are in the right mode.  You can use your arrow
keys to navigate around the vi screen.

If you want to insert text where the cursor is, press i and type what you
want.  Press escape when done so you get out of edit mode.

To delete a character at the cursor position, press x.

This should give you enough to edit a basic file.  Press escape when done
and type

:wq

and press enter to write the file and then quit.

The vi man page has a basic overview of commands that are useful several
pages down.  The commands are a bit odd but once you are used to them, it
becomes second nature.

Matt

<quote who="Sina Bahram">
> Ok, I did that, but now I have a few problems. I got apt4rpm. I ran
> apt-get and upgraded the packages, and installed all the latest stuff it
> had to offer. However when I type
>
> apt-get install gnome
>
> I get an error saying that while gnome was found in the database it can
> not be installed. Now I read another message on here about changing a
> line in my sources.list file, but this is a little difficult for me to
> do because of my unfamiliarity with text editers like VI. I tried ftping
> the file to an ftp I have access too, then downloading it onto my
> windows box, changing the appropriate line, and then uploading it back;
> however, as expected the file didn't work when I tried
>
> apt-get install gnome
>
> It said some error on a line, which I gathered to simply be a difference
> in line breaks or any other linux/windows incompatibility. So is there
> anyway I can get this sources.list file, from an ftp, since I can use
> ftp when I ssh into the box I'm trying to install gnome on.
>
> Sorry if this is unclear, and I am extremely fustraited at myself, since
> if I had to do something like this in windows, it would take me the all
> of three seconds or less *sigh*. But I'm willing to do whatever, so
> please let me know.
>
> Thanks again,
> Sina
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Ryan Mann
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 3:35 PM
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: RE: Gnome for redhat 9
>
>
> Yu can go to www.freshrpms.net to download apt4rpm.  After you install
> apt4rpm you will have apt-get.
>
>
>
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Re: two more questions about gnome?

[Patrick Turnage]

Hello
I have debian woody, do I need gnome 2.4.0 to take advantage of the latest
in screen reading for gnome? I have downloaded a lot of the sources from
the gnome site, but there is a lot of stuff there.. What exactly do I need
to get this up and running with my system. I assume that since 2.4.0 has
just been released that debian does not have it included in the woody
packages.. 
Any first pointers would be helpful.
Sincerely,
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Re: two more questions about gnome?

[Alex Snow]

Is it tech support or customer disservice that says they can ping your
modem? I had a similar problem with my isp, and a call to buth tech and
customer got me no where with them denying ever hearing of any downtime but
that was bs since I'd heard a lot of other people having the same problem in
this area and calling support.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Howell" <scott.howell@nasa.gov>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: two more questions about gnome?


> Thanks Kenny. I will assume that is available as a debian pkg and I'll
> assume I would get it if I'm running the sid or woody version? I won't
know
> much till I resolve the connection problems with my cable modem and get my
> Linux box talking to their dhcp server. I might be on track, but won't
know
> till this weekend as I have to sit down and do some fresh installing as my
> hacking probably has messed up some stuff.<grin> The issue might be that
my
> modem wasn't getting connected to their server, but they claim they can
> ping it now so will have to wait and see if this does it. If not I'll
> switch to plan X once I figure out what X will be.<grin>
>
> tnx
>
> Oh, is theer some document that will explain what I need to read that will
> get me up to speed on how it works , how to configure stuff etc. perhaps.
> Maybe I'll try to find the Gnopernicous site and do some rtfm there.
>
> tnx
>
>
> At 07:10 AM 9/25/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> >Scott, if you install gnome 2.4, you will get gnopernicus as part of
> >gnome.
> >
> >           Kenny
> >
> >On Thu, Sep 25, 2003 at 07:36:58AM -0400, Scott Howell wrote:
> > > Geez I've been out of pocket for some time and I assume Gnopernicous
has
> > > been officially released? If so where could I obtain more info as this
> > type
> > > of program might be handy for some plans I have.
> > > Any info appreciated.
> > >
> > > Scott
> > >
> > >
> > > At 07:24 PM 9/24/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> > > >Hi all.
> > > >My first question is kind of stupid. How do you go about starting
gnome?
> > > >and second, which voice for festival does gnopernicus use by default?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> >
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Re: two more questions about gnome?

[Alex Snow]

I wouldn't call it a release... but at least they now have a tarball so you
don't need to get it from cvs. check
ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/sources/gnopernicus/0.7 or
http://www.baum.ro/gnopernicus.html (the latter has been down for the past
few days).
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Howell" <scott.howell@nasa.gov>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 6:36 AM
Subject: Re: two more questions about gnome?


> Geez I've been out of pocket for some time and I assume Gnopernicous has
> been officially released? If so where could I obtain more info as this
type
> of program might be handy for some plans I have.
> Any info appreciated.
>
> Scott
>
>
> At 07:24 PM 9/24/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> >Hi all.
> >My first question is kind of stupid. How do you go about starting gnome?
> >and second, which voice for festival does gnopernicus use by default?
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

RE: Gnome for redhat 9

[Sina Bahram]

Thank you so much for your help. I executed the fix on the sources.list.
And right now, I am running the apt-get update, and upgrades. Thank you
again for explaining something so simple.

You take care, and I'll right back if I have problems with gnome
Sina

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of White, Matt
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 4:32 PM
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: RE: Gnome for redhat 9


The best fix for this problem is to learn something like vi; here are a
few tips.

To open a file for editing, type

vi /etc/apt/sources.list

obviously substituting the appropriate path for this file.

Next, press escape so you are in the right mode.  You can use your arrow
keys to navigate around the vi screen.

If you want to insert text where the cursor is, press i and type what
you want.  Press escape when done so you get out of edit mode.

To delete a character at the cursor position, press x.

This should give you enough to edit a basic file.  Press escape when
done and type

:wq

and press enter to write the file and then quit.

The vi man page has a basic overview of commands that are useful several
pages down.  The commands are a bit odd but once you are used to them,
it becomes second nature.

Matt

<quote who="Sina Bahram">
> Ok, I did that, but now I have a few problems. I got apt4rpm. I ran 
> apt-get and upgraded the packages, and installed all the latest stuff 
> it had to offer. However when I type
>
> apt-get install gnome
>
> I get an error saying that while gnome was found in the database it 
> can not be installed. Now I read another message on here about 
> changing a line in my sources.list file, but this is a little 
> difficult for me to do because of my unfamiliarity with text editers 
> like VI. I tried ftping the file to an ftp I have access too, then 
> downloading it onto my windows box, changing the appropriate line, and

> then uploading it back; however, as expected the file didn't work when

> I tried
>
> apt-get install gnome
>
> It said some error on a line, which I gathered to simply be a 
> difference in line breaks or any other linux/windows incompatibility. 
> So is there anyway I can get this sources.list file, from an ftp, 
> since I can use ftp when I ssh into the box I'm trying to install 
> gnome on.
>
> Sorry if this is unclear, and I am extremely fustraited at myself, 
> since if I had to do something like this in windows, it would take me 
> the all of three seconds or less *sigh*. But I'm willing to do 
> whatever, so please let me know.
>
> Thanks again,
> Sina
>
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> On Behalf Of Ryan Mann
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 3:35 PM
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: RE: Gnome for redhat 9
>
>
> Yu can go to www.freshrpms.net to download apt4rpm.  After you install

> apt4rpm you will have apt-get.
>
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RE: Gnome for redhat 9

[Sina Bahram]

Here is what happens after I got most of the updates, and after I ran
apt-get upgrade and got all 90 something packages.

Now when I run apt-get update this happens.

apt-get update

Get:1 http://people.ecsc.co.uk redhat-9-i386 release [1794B]
Fetched 1794B in 10s (178B/s)
Hit http://people.ecsc.co.uk redhat-9-i386/gnome pkglist
Hit http://people.ecsc.co.uk redhat-9-i386/gnome release
Hit http://people.ecsc.co.uk redhat-9-i386/extras pkglist
Hit http://people.ecsc.co.uk redhat-9-i386/extras release
Err http://people.ecsc.co.uk redhat-9-i386/dep pkglist
  404 Not Found
Ign http://people.ecsc.co.uk redhat-9-i386/dep release
Failed to fetch
http://people.ecsc.co.uk/~matt/downloads/apt/redhat-9-i386/base/
pkglist.dep  404 Not Found
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
W: Release file did not contain checksum information for
http://people.ecsc.co.u
k/~matt/downloads/apt/redhat-9-i386/base/pkglist.dep
W: Release file did not contain checksum information for
http://people.ecsc.co.u
k/~matt/downloads/apt/redhat-9-i386/base/release.dep
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old
ones used
 instead.

And when I run apt-get install gnome, I receive

apt-get install gnome

Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Package gnome has no available version, but exists in the database.
This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and
never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents
of sources.list
However the following packages replace it:
  gnome-utils gnome-media libcapplet0
  control-center
E: Package gnome has no installation candidate

I humbly declare that I am doing something wrong, so can someone please
correct me.

Thank you,
Sina

Urgent help with gnome problem

[Sina Bahram]

I believe I might have actually messed something up *I know I know, big
surprise (grin)*

When I started up the computer, after I ran the apt-get program. I
rebooted the computer and I received a few errors, after which my
desktop wouldn't come up anymore. I am afraid I might have screwed
something up big time???

It said that the pannel could not be started, also that notilus was
unable to start due to it's being restarted too many times and
encountering errors, and also it said that some of my settings won't
work like sounds and themes. What can I do to ratify the situation?

Thanks,
Sina

Re: two more questions about gnome?

[Scott Howell]

The incredible thing is they were actually trying to do their level best to 
help me out. They even took time thismorning to make sure the dns server 
I'm accessing can resolve linux-speakup.org correctly. Kirk was kind enough 
to give me a directory path I could get the base file for my Debian install 
as the Debian site doesn't seem to have what I need. Couldn't get this 
working so had Adelphia verify things were ok with their dns server. Well 
they were a bit slow in getting some issues resolved, but they made an 
effort and got it going. Actually although they don't directly support 
LInux, they got folks who know Linux and they dont' get all bent if you 
mention your using it. Ay I can't be to hard on them as their contractor 
who did the install made a mess like leaving cable clipings on the floor 
two feet from the trash can and tracked mud into my house which pistoff the 
wife for sure. They waved all install fees which is more than I really 
expected from them and they didn't even argue and were very interested in 
hearing what I had to say.

Now lets see how they continue to perform.

Oh yes I was able to get things working with dhcp so now to get the base 
stuff installed.

Scott

Re: two more questions about gnome?

[Scott Howell]

Thanks for the information.

Scott

Re: Gnome for redhat 9

[Jim Wantz]

Hey Scott,
I appreciated the apt4rpm info as well--its been a while since I used it.
As for your dhcp problem, you should run dhcpcd which you should definitely
have if you are running a Redhat box.  Sometimes when you are switching from
a WINDBLOWS machine to a linux box on comcast you need to unplug your cable
modem for about 45 minutes and try again.
Then try the following command:
dhcpcd -d -n -H
Note the uppercase H.  That has always worked for me.

     Jim

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Howell" <scott.howell@nasa.gov>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: Gnome for redhat 9


> Ay thanks very much for the info and I'll check it out.
>
> Scott
>
>
> At 01:15 PM 9/25/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> >You can get gnome 2.4 by installing apt4rpm and putting the following in
> >/etc/apt/sources.list
> >rpm http://people.ecsc.co.uk/~matt/downloads/apt redhat-9-i386 gnome
> >extras dep
> >You can find out more about apt4rpm by going to www.freshrpms.net.
> >On Thu,
> >25 Sep 2003, Sina Bahram wrote:
> >
> > > Hello, I wanted to know how I could get gnome 2.4 on redhat 9. I have
> > > downloaded all the latest updates and rpms for redhat 9, and I am
> > > running it on a box with 800mhz and 384 megs of ram. I would
appreciate
> > > how to get it up and running so I could get gnoppernicus. If anyone
> > > could give me some details, I would appreciate it.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Sina
> > >
> > >
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Re: Gnome for redhat 9

[Scott Howell]

Jim,

thanks actually its a new not yet installed Debian box and its actually 
Adelphia. Sorry I moved from Laurel to Mount Airy so different cable 
company and I can't get DSL as it doesn't exist up here yet. Actually my 
favorite command is format c:. ahahh

Scott

Re: Gnome for redhat 9

[Jim Wantz]

Hey Scott,
Well, I hadn't read the entire thread when I replied--my bad.  So, I guess
you are in Carroll County.  I love Carroll County and would live there
myself--but I wouldn't like that 2 hour commute!  I lived in Eldersburg for
six years and my father lives in Westminster.  Some of the Commcast support
people are really nasty when you tell them you are running Linux.  I'm glad
you are having better luck with Adelphia.  Long live format/u c:
I'm actually using a WINDBLOWS machine to write this--unfortunately.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Howell" <scott.howell@nasa.gov>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: Gnome for redhat 9


> Jim,
>
> thanks actually its a new not yet installed Debian box and its actually
> Adelphia. Sorry I moved from Laurel to Mount Airy so different cable
> company and I can't get DSL as it doesn't exist up here yet. Actually my
> favorite command is format c:. ahahh
>
> Scott
>
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Re: Gnome for redhat 9

[Scott Howell]

Jim,

I'm actually in Frederick County, but very very near the Caroll County 
line. Mount Airy sits in both counties and incredibly Howard County is 
mighty close and Montgomery isn't all that far away. We're kind of in a 
cross roads. Well the Adelphia folk haven't been to bad, but when I 
asked one of them if they had a time server, but note I said NTP server, 
I was sent immediately to second level support. I think the idea of time 
server or ntp just blew the dudes mind.<grin>
Well they didn't have one so I use the server from my former ISP.

Scott

ps. what happen to your Linux box.

ntp server, was: Re: Gnome for redhat 9

[Gregory Nowak]

Scott,

Psu.edu runs a publicly accessible ntp server. In fact, there is a
clock setting script which someone posted here a while back, and that I run
every 24 hr to set my clock. The script uses the psu.edu server.

If you're interested, I can send you the script privately, so as not
to clutter the list with something that's already in the archive.

Greg


On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 07:26:42PM -0400, Scott Howell wrote:
> Jim,
> 
> I'm actually in Frederick County, but very very near the Caroll County 
> line. Mount Airy sits in both counties and incredibly Howard County is 
> mighty close and Montgomery isn't all that far away. We're kind of in a 
> cross roads. Well the Adelphia folk haven't been to bad, but when I 
> asked one of them if they had a time server, but note I said NTP server, 
> I was sent immediately to second level support. I think the idea of time 
> server or ntp just blew the dudes mind.<grin>
> Well they didn't have one so I use the server from my former ISP.
> 
> Scott
> 
> ps. what happen to your Linux box.
> 
> 
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cd burning, was: Re: Gnome for redhat 9

[Gregory Nowak]

No need to extract things from the iso image.

Assuming your cd-writer is setup properly (see the cd-writing HOWTO),
you can use cdrecord to burn the cd under GNU/Linux. See the cdrecord
man page to find out what options are available, and how to specify
your burner device.

Greg


On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 12:38:07AM +0100, Darragh wrote:
> Can someone send me the link for the gnome accessibility mailing list?
> I want to install it but will have a lot of questions when I start.  Um,
> that is I assume I'll have a lot any way, I was told its extreemly
> difficult.
> 
> Finally, Winblows has made an absolute mess of writing CDs.  I have read
> hat 8 installed but cant install red hat nine until I get the Iso's onto
> CD.  Can any one tell me of a *simple* or reasonably easy method of
> extracting from izo to a CD in red hat 8?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> Darragh
> 

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RE: Gnome for redhat 9

[Darragh]

Can someone send me the link for the gnome accessibility mailing list?
I want to install it but will have a lot of questions when I start.  Um,
that is I assume I'll have a lot any way, I was told its extreemly
difficult.

Finally, Winblows has made an absolute mess of writing CDs.  I have read
hat 8 installed but cant install red hat nine until I get the Iso's onto
CD.  Can any one tell me of a *simple* or reasonably easy method of
extracting from izo to a CD in red hat 8?

Thanks


Darragh

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Scott Howell
Sent: 02 October 2003 00:27
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: Gnome for redhat 9


Jim,

I'm actually in Frederick County, but very very near the Caroll County 
line. Mount Airy sits in both counties and incredibly Howard County is 
mighty close and Montgomery isn't all that far away. We're kind of in a 
cross roads. Well the Adelphia folk haven't been to bad, but when I 
asked one of them if they had a time server, but note I said NTP server,

I was sent immediately to second level support. I think the idea of time

server or ntp just blew the dudes mind.<grin>
Well they didn't have one so I use the server from my former ISP.

Scott

ps. what happen to your Linux box.



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Re: ntp server, was: Re: Gnome for redhat 9

[Alex Snow]

I have my clock set once per hour using time-nw.nist.gov. I have a script
that looks like this in /etc/cron.hourly:
#!/bin/bash
ntpdate -b time-nw.nist.gov

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To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 6:27 PM
Subject: ntp server, was: Re: Gnome for redhat 9


> Scott,
>
> Psu.edu runs a publicly accessible ntp server. In fact, there is a
> clock setting script which someone posted here a while back, and that I
run
> every 24 hr to set my clock. The script uses the psu.edu server.
>
> If you're interested, I can send you the script privately, so as not
> to clutter the list with something that's already in the archive.
>
> Greg
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 07:26:42PM -0400, Scott Howell wrote:
> > Jim,
> >
> > I'm actually in Frederick County, but very very near the Caroll County
> > line. Mount Airy sits in both counties and incredibly Howard County is
> > mighty close and Montgomery isn't all that far away. We're kind of in a
> > cross roads. Well the Adelphia folk haven't been to bad, but when I
> > asked one of them if they had a time server, but note I said NTP server,
> > I was sent immediately to second level support. I think the idea of time
> > server or ntp just blew the dudes mind.<grin>
> > Well they didn't have one so I use the server from my former ISP.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > ps. what happen to your Linux box.
> >
> >
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Re: ntp server, was: Re: Gnome for redhat 9

[Scott Howell]

Greg,

Yes I'd be interested in the script. I have something setup now, but am 
still interested.

thanks,
Scott