* Information is needed.
@ Murthy T S N
` Janina Sajka
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From: Murthy T S N @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Dear list,
When I visited Fonix.com I found DECtalk RT Linux is available for $50
only which is affordable for me.
Before going to this I have few questions.
1. Will speakup supports this during installation ? That Will speaks during
install process?
2. Will it supports emacspeak also?
I have Fedora core2 on my system installed.
Please help me in this regard.
Your help is appreciated.
Satyanarayana Murthy Tanikella
Developer (TCOE Production Support ( Dendrite ))
Tel: +91 80 25522892/3 x388
Fax: +91-80-51313127
Email: Satya.Murthy@dendrite.com
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread* Re: Information is needed. Information is needed Murthy T S N @ ` Janina Sajka ` jim grimsby ` Sean McMahon 2 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. You cannot install using software speech. Murthy T S N writes: > Dear list, > When I visited Fonix.com I found DECtalk RT Linux is available for $50 > only which is affordable for me. > Before going to this I have few questions. > 1. Will speakup supports this during installation ? That Will speaks during > install process? > 2. Will it supports emacspeak also? > I have Fedora core2 on my system installed. > Please help me in this regard. > Your help is appreciated. > Satyanarayana Murthy Tanikella > Developer (TCOE Production Support ( Dendrite )) > Tel: +91 80 25522892/3 x388 > Fax: +91-80-51313127 > Email: Satya.Murthy@dendrite.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka Phone: +1.202.494.7040 Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org http://a11y.org If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a different problem. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* RE: Information is needed. Information is needed Murthy T S N ` Janina Sajka @ ` jim grimsby ` Sean McMahon ` Janina Sajka ` Sean McMahon 2 siblings, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: jim grimsby @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.' 1. Will speakup supports this during installation ? That Will speaks during install process? If you mean will speakup read the dectalk installer the answer is a big you bet. If you mean can you use the dectalk software during the install of linux the answer is no. 2. Will it supports emacspeak also? Yes it will. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Information is needed. ` jim grimsby @ ` Sean McMahon ` Gregory Nowak ` Janina Sajka 1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Sean McMahon @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Emacspeak is an entirely different program and you may run both, not at the same time unless I suppose you run them under different synths. Best way to do this is install emacspeak then create two seperate entries in your boot loader configuration file, one boots the speakup kernel the other boots a non-speakup kernel. Another way which may work is to hit the printscreen key after you're logged-in then start emacspeak. printscreen silences and pressed again restarts speakup completely. ----- Original Message ----- From: "jim grimsby" <jimgrims@pacbell.net> To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'" <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 8:07 AM Subject: RE: Information is needed. > > 1. Will speakup supports this during installation ? That Will speaks > during install process? > If you mean will speakup read the dectalk installer the answer is a big > you bet. If you mean can you use the dectalk software during the > install of linux the answer is no. > 2. Will it supports emacspeak also? > Yes it will. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Information is needed. ` Sean McMahon @ ` Gregory Nowak 0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Sean McMahon, Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 If you have a modularized speakup, you don't need to even bother with the separate kernels. Greg On Tue, Mar 29, 2005 at 11:20:59AM -0700, Sean McMahon wrote: > Emacspeak is an entirely different program and you may run both, not at the same > time unless I suppose you run them under different synths. Best way to do this > is install emacspeak then create two seperate entries in your boot loader > configuration file, one boots the speakup kernel the other boots a non-speakup > kernel. Another way which may work is to hit the printscreen key after you're > logged-in then start emacspeak. printscreen silences and pressed again > restarts speakup completely. - -- web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) - -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCSaWV7s9z/XlyUyARAncBAJ9t8flANiVbutAdwUFm5TqtrTApxgCfSeZo ohdhW8bdhC3S0QH9EloSjbc= =W3Fn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Information is needed. ` jim grimsby ` Sean McMahon @ ` Janina Sajka ` jim grimsby 1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Let's please be more careful about our responses. He was asking about software speech, which makes your response 100% wrong. jim grimsby writes: > > 1. Will speakup supports this during installation ? That Will speaks > during install process? > If you mean will speakup read the dectalk installer the answer is a big > you bet. If you mean can you use the dectalk software during the > install of linux the answer is no. > 2. Will it supports emacspeak also? > Yes it will. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka Phone: +1.202.494.7040 Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org http://a11y.org If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a different problem. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* RE: Information is needed. ` Janina Sajka @ ` jim grimsby ` Kenny Hitt ` Farhan 0 siblings, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: jim grimsby @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.' Let's please be more careful about our responses. He was asking about software speech, which makes your response 100% wrong. He was not clear if he was refairing to the install of dectalk or the install of linux. So I responded to both. If you mean will speakup read the dectalk install the answer is a big you bet. If you mean can you install linux with the dectalk software speech the answer is no. So how was my response wrong? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Information is needed. ` jim grimsby @ ` Kenny Hitt ` jim grimsby ` Farhan 1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Kenny Hitt @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi. He asked about installing Linux, not installing DECtalk. Kenny On Tue, Mar 29, 2005 at 11:31:52AM -0800, jim grimsby wrote: > > > Let's please be more careful about our responses. > > He was asking about software speech, which makes your response 100% > wrong. > He was not clear if he was refairing to the install of dectalk or the > install of linux. So I responded to both. > If you mean will speakup read the dectalk install the answer is a big > you bet. If you mean can you install linux with the dectalk software > speech the answer is no. So how was my response wrong? > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* RE: Information is needed. ` Kenny Hitt @ ` jim grimsby ` Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: jim grimsby @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.' 1. Will speakup supports this during installation ? Where does that say linux installation of what that is why I responded the way I did. As I said he did not say installation of what. So the answer to his unclear question was the answer I gave. That yes he could use speakup to read the dectalk install and no he could not use the dectalk to install linux. Also the remark was that my response was totally wrong. How so for one yes speakup will read the dectalk install and no you can't use dectalk software to install linux so how was the response totally wrong" -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Kenny Hitt Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 11:37 AM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: Re: Information is needed. Hi. He asked about installing Linux, not installing DECtalk. Kenny On Tue, Mar 29, 2005 at 11:31:52AM -0800, jim grimsby wrote: > > > Let's please be more careful about our responses. > > He was asking about software speech, which makes your response 100% > wrong. He was not clear if he was refairing to the install of dectalk > or the install of linux. So I responded to both. > If you mean will speakup read the dectalk install the answer is a big > you bet. If you mean can you install linux with the dectalk software > speech the answer is no. So how was my response wrong? > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Information is needed. ` jim grimsby @ ` Janina Sajka ` jim grimsby 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. OK. You can certainly get the other reading out of that statement, but it's an obscure interpretation whereas the interpretation that reads it as "installing LInux" is something we respond to all the time here. So, I'll withdraw my remark about percentage. I do still think it more appropriate to answer the common interpretation, not the rather arcane one that nobody every asks. I think we want to be more than just technically correct, I think we also want to be very clear. This is especially true because we have people here who are not native English speakers. jim grimsby writes: > 1. Will speakup supports this during installation ? > Where does that say linux installation of what that is why I responded > the way I did. As I said he did not say installation of what. So the > answer to his unclear question was the answer I gave. That yes he could > use speakup to read the dectalk install and no he could not use the > dectalk to install linux. Also the remark was that my response was > totally wrong. How so for one yes speakup will read the dectalk install > and no you can't use dectalk software to install linux so how was the > response totally wrong" > -----Original Message----- > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca > [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Kenny Hitt > Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 11:37 AM > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > Subject: Re: Information is needed. > > > Hi. > > He asked about installing Linux, not installing DECtalk. > > Kenny > > On Tue, Mar 29, 2005 at 11:31:52AM -0800, jim grimsby wrote: > > > > > > Let's please be more careful about our responses. > > > > He was asking about software speech, which makes your response 100% > > wrong. He was not clear if he was refairing to the install of dectalk > > or the install of linux. So I responded to both. > > If you mean will speakup read the dectalk install the answer is a big > > you bet. If you mean can you install linux with the dectalk software > > speech the answer is no. So how was my response wrong? > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka Phone: +1.202.494.7040 Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org http://a11y.org If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a different problem. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* RE: Information is needed. ` Janina Sajka @ ` jim grimsby ` Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: jim grimsby @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.' Hi, sorry not trying to beat a dead horse here but that is what I was trying to do be as clear as I could. I was onistly not sure witch he was refairing to I had the idea that he already had a box running. So I thought better to be safe respond to both points. Sorry for any trouble I might have caused. I have benefited from your advice in the past ser and wish to continue and if I gave offence I do humbly apologize. When I was asking how I was wrong I onistly did not understand what I had said that was not correct. It was in no way trying to undermined you in any way. Thanks again for all the help in the past and hope it will come in the future. -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 5:56 PM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: Re: Information is needed. OK. You can certainly get the other reading out of that statement, but it's an obscure interpretation whereas the interpretation that reads it as "installing LInux" is something we respond to all the time here. So, I'll withdraw my remark about percentage. I do still think it more appropriate to answer the common interpretation, not the rather arcane one that nobody every asks. I think we want to be more than just technically correct, I think we also want to be very clear. This is especially true because we have people here who are not native English speakers. jim grimsby writes: > 1. Will speakup supports this during installation ? > Where does that say linux installation of what that is why I responded > the way I did. As I said he did not say installation of what. So the > answer to his unclear question was the answer I gave. That yes he > could use speakup to read the dectalk install and no he could not use > the dectalk to install linux. Also the remark was that my response > was totally wrong. How so for one yes speakup will read the dectalk > install and no you can't use dectalk software to install linux so how > was the response totally wrong" -----Original Message----- > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca > [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Kenny Hitt > Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 11:37 AM > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > Subject: Re: Information is needed. > > > Hi. > > He asked about installing Linux, not installing DECtalk. > > Kenny > > On Tue, Mar 29, 2005 at 11:31:52AM -0800, jim grimsby wrote: > > > > > > Let's please be more careful about our responses. > > > > He was asking about software speech, which makes your response 100% > > wrong. He was not clear if he was refairing to the install of dectalk > > or the install of linux. So I responded to both. > > If you mean will speakup read the dectalk install the answer is a big > > you bet. If you mean can you install linux with the dectalk software > > speech the answer is no. So how was my response wrong? > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka Phone: +1.202.494.7040 Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org http://a11y.org If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a different problem. _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Information is needed. ` jim grimsby @ ` Janina Sajka ` jim grimsby 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Please don't take my remarks personally. It's clear to me you were attempting to be thorough. In fact, I also appreciate your willingness to jump in and give advice when you were sure you could say something appropriate. Please keep up both things--asking when you need something, and offering when you have something to give. If my remarks offended you, I am sorry. I do appreciate your being here. PS: I'm not a "sir," but you don't need to say "ma'am," either. No need for such formalities here. Janina ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* RE: Information is needed. ` Janina Sajka @ ` jim grimsby 0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: jim grimsby @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.' Wonderful now I am going to go back to work on my dectalk issues. Lol -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 10:02 PM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: Re: Information is needed. Please don't take my remarks personally. It's clear to me you were attempting to be thorough. In fact, I also appreciate your willingness to jump in and give advice when you were sure you could say something appropriate. Please keep up both things--asking when you need something, and offering when you have something to give. If my remarks offended you, I am sorry. I do appreciate your being here. PS: I'm not a "sir," but you don't need to say "ma'am," either. No need for such formalities here. Janina _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Information is needed. ` jim grimsby ` Kenny Hitt @ ` Farhan 1 sibling, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Farhan @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. yes? he has a point i didn't see anything wrong with the answer ----- Original Message ----- From: "jim grimsby" <jimgrims@pacbell.net> To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'" <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 1:31 PM Subject: RE: Information is needed. > > > Let's please be more careful about our responses. > > He was asking about software speech, which makes your response 100% > wrong. > He was not clear if he was refairing to the install of dectalk or the > install of linux. So I responded to both. > If you mean will speakup read the dectalk install the answer is a big > you bet. If you mean can you install linux with the dectalk software > speech the answer is no. So how was my response wrong? > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Information is needed. Information is needed Murthy T S N ` Janina Sajka ` jim grimsby @ ` Sean McMahon 2 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Sean McMahon @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. The software decktalk is abailable only after installation, get a hardware synth which connects to the serial port. Use one which speakup supports and that info is on the website. This question was anwsered yesterday in the post draft speakup documentation. btw, is that going to be available on the web somewhere? I mean other then in the list archives. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Murthy T S N" <murthyn@aztec.soft.net> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 5:03 AM Subject: Information is needed. > Dear list, > When I visited Fonix.com I found DECtalk RT Linux is available for $50 > only which is affordable for me. > Before going to this I have few questions. > 1. Will speakup supports this during installation ? That Will speaks during > install process? > 2. Will it supports emacspeak also? > I have Fedora core2 on my system installed. > Please help me in this regard. > Your help is appreciated. > Satyanarayana Murthy Tanikella > Developer (TCOE Production Support ( Dendrite )) > Tel: +91 80 25522892/3 x388 > Fax: +91-80-51313127 > Email: Satya.Murthy@dendrite.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
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