Information is needed.

Information is needed.

[Murthy T S N]

Dear list,
When I visited Fonix.com I found DECtalk RT Linux   is available for $50
only which is affordable for me.
Before going to this I have few questions.
1. Will speakup supports this during installation  ? That Will speaks during
install process?
2. Will it supports emacspeak also?
I have Fedora core2 on my system installed.
Please help me in this regard.
Your help is appreciated.
Satyanarayana Murthy Tanikella
Developer (TCOE Production  Support ( Dendrite ))  
Tel: +91 80 25522892/3  x388
Fax: +91-80-51313127
Email: Satya.Murthy@dendrite.com

 
 

Re: Information is needed.

[Janina Sajka]

You cannot install using software speech.

Murthy T S N writes:
> Dear list,
> When I visited Fonix.com I found DECtalk RT Linux   is available for $50
> only which is affordable for me.
> Before going to this I have few questions.
> 1. Will speakup supports this during installation  ? That Will speaks during
> install process?
> 2. Will it supports emacspeak also?
> I have Fedora core2 on my system installed.
> Please help me in this regard.
> Your help is appreciated.
> Satyanarayana Murthy Tanikella
> Developer (TCOE Production  Support ( Dendrite ))  
> Tel: +91 80 25522892/3  x388
> Fax: +91-80-51313127
> Email: Satya.Murthy@dendrite.com
> 
>  
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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RE: Information is needed.

[jim grimsby]

1. Will speakup supports this during installation  ? That Will speaks
during install process?
If you mean will speakup read the dectalk installer the answer is a big
you bet.  If you mean can you use the dectalk software during the
install of linux the answer is no.   
 2. Will it supports emacspeak also?
Yes it will.  

Re: Information is needed.

[Sean McMahon]

The software decktalk is abailable only after installation, get a hardware synth
which connects to the serial port.  Use one which speakup supports and that info
is on the website.  This question was anwsered yesterday in the post draft
speakup documentation.  btw, is that going to be available on the web somewhere?
I mean other then in the list archives.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Murthy T S N" <murthyn@aztec.soft.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 5:03 AM
Subject: Information is needed.


> Dear list,
> When I visited Fonix.com I found DECtalk RT Linux   is available for $50
> only which is affordable for me.
> Before going to this I have few questions.
> 1. Will speakup supports this during installation  ? That Will speaks during
> install process?
> 2. Will it supports emacspeak also?
> I have Fedora core2 on my system installed.
> Please help me in this regard.
> Your help is appreciated.
> Satyanarayana Murthy Tanikella
> Developer (TCOE Production  Support ( Dendrite ))
> Tel: +91 80 25522892/3  x388
> Fax: +91-80-51313127
> Email: Satya.Murthy@dendrite.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: Information is needed.

[Sean McMahon]

Emacspeak is an entirely different program and you may run both, not at the same
time unless I suppose you run them under different synths.  Best way to do this
is install emacspeak then create two seperate entries in your boot loader
configuration file, one boots the speakup kernel the other boots a non-speakup
kernel.  Another way which may work is to hit the printscreen key after you're
logged-in then start emacspeak.  printscreen silences  and pressed again
restarts speakup completely.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jim grimsby" <jimgrims@pacbell.net>
To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'" <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 8:07 AM
Subject: RE: Information is needed.


>
> 1. Will speakup supports this during installation  ? That Will speaks
> during install process?
> If you mean will speakup read the dectalk installer the answer is a big
> you bet.  If you mean can you use the dectalk software during the
> install of linux the answer is no.
>  2. Will it supports emacspeak also?
> Yes it will.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: Information is needed.

[Gregory Nowak]

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If you have a modularized speakup, you don't need to even bother with
the separate kernels.

Greg


On Tue, Mar 29, 2005 at 11:20:59AM -0700, Sean McMahon wrote:
> Emacspeak is an entirely different program and you may run both, not at the same
> time unless I suppose you run them under different synths.  Best way to do this
> is install emacspeak then create two seperate entries in your boot loader
> configuration file, one boots the speakup kernel the other boots a non-speakup
> kernel.  Another way which may work is to hit the printscreen key after you're
> logged-in then start emacspeak.  printscreen silences  and pressed again
> restarts speakup completely.

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Re: Information is needed.

[Janina Sajka]

Let's please be more careful about our responses.

He was asking about software speech, which makes your response 100%
wrong.

jim grimsby writes:
> 
> 1. Will speakup supports this during installation  ? That Will speaks
> during install process?
> If you mean will speakup read the dectalk installer the answer is a big
> you bet.  If you mean can you use the dectalk software during the
> install of linux the answer is no.   
>  2. Will it supports emacspeak also?
> Yes it will.  
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC	http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com

Chair, Accessibility Workgroup		Free Standards Group (FSG)
janina@freestandards.org		http://a11y.org

If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a different problem.

RE: Information is needed.

[jim grimsby]

Let's please be more careful about our responses.

He was asking about software speech, which makes your response 100%
wrong.
He was not clear if he was refairing to the install of dectalk or the
install of linux.  So I responded to both. 
If you mean will speakup read the dectalk install the answer is a big
you bet. If you mean can you install linux with  the dectalk software
speech the answer is no.  So  how was my response wrong? 

Re: Information is needed.

[Kenny Hitt]

Hi.

He asked about installing Linux, not installing DECtalk.

          Kenny

On Tue, Mar 29, 2005 at 11:31:52AM -0800, jim grimsby wrote:
> 
> 
> Let's please be more careful about our responses.
> 
> He was asking about software speech, which makes your response 100%
> wrong.
> He was not clear if he was refairing to the install of dectalk or the
> install of linux.  So I responded to both. 
> If you mean will speakup read the dectalk install the answer is a big
> you bet. If you mean can you install linux with  the dectalk software
> speech the answer is no.  So  how was my response wrong? 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

RE: Information is needed.

[jim grimsby]

1. Will speakup supports this during installation  ?
Where does that say linux installation of what that is why I responded
the way I did.  As I said he did not say installation of what.  So the
answer to his unclear question was the answer I gave.  That yes he could
use speakup to read the dectalk install and no he could not use the
dectalk to install linux.  Also the remark was that my response was
totally wrong.  How so for one yes speakup will read the dectalk install
and no you can't use dectalk software to install linux so how was the
response totally wrong" 
-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Kenny Hitt
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 11:37 AM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: Information is needed.


Hi.

He asked about installing Linux, not installing DECtalk.

          Kenny

On Tue, Mar 29, 2005 at 11:31:52AM -0800, jim grimsby wrote:
> 
> 
> Let's please be more careful about our responses.
> 
> He was asking about software speech, which makes your response 100% 
> wrong. He was not clear if he was refairing to the install of dectalk 
> or the install of linux.  So I responded to both.
> If you mean will speakup read the dectalk install the answer is a big
> you bet. If you mean can you install linux with  the dectalk software
> speech the answer is no.  So  how was my response wrong? 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca 
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: Information is needed.

[Farhan]

yes? he has a point i didn't see anything wrong with the answer
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jim grimsby" <jimgrims@pacbell.net>
To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'" 
<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 1:31 PM
Subject: RE: Information is needed.


>
>
> Let's please be more careful about our responses.
>
> He was asking about software speech, which makes your response 100%
> wrong.
> He was not clear if he was refairing to the install of dectalk or the
> install of linux.  So I responded to both.
> If you mean will speakup read the dectalk install the answer is a big
> you bet. If you mean can you install linux with  the dectalk software
> speech the answer is no.  So  how was my response wrong?
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup 

Re: Information is needed.

[Janina Sajka]

OK. You can certainly get the other reading out of that statement, but
it's an obscure interpretation whereas the interpretation that reads it
as "installing LInux" is something we respond to all the time here.

So, I'll withdraw my remark about percentage. I do still think it more
appropriate to answer the common interpretation, not the rather arcane
one that nobody every asks. I think we want to be more than just
technically correct, I think we also want to be very clear. This is
especially true because we have people here who are not native English
speakers.

jim grimsby writes:
> 1. Will speakup supports this during installation  ?
> Where does that say linux installation of what that is why I responded
> the way I did.  As I said he did not say installation of what.  So the
> answer to his unclear question was the answer I gave.  That yes he could
> use speakup to read the dectalk install and no he could not use the
> dectalk to install linux.  Also the remark was that my response was
> totally wrong.  How so for one yes speakup will read the dectalk install
> and no you can't use dectalk software to install linux so how was the
> response totally wrong" 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Kenny Hitt
> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 11:37 AM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: Information is needed.
> 
> 
> Hi.
> 
> He asked about installing Linux, not installing DECtalk.
> 
>           Kenny
> 
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2005 at 11:31:52AM -0800, jim grimsby wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Let's please be more careful about our responses.
> > 
> > He was asking about software speech, which makes your response 100% 
> > wrong. He was not clear if he was refairing to the install of dectalk 
> > or the install of linux.  So I responded to both.
> > If you mean will speakup read the dectalk install the answer is a big
> > you bet. If you mean can you install linux with  the dectalk software
> > speech the answer is no.  So  how was my response wrong? 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca 
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC	http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com

Chair, Accessibility Workgroup		Free Standards Group (FSG)
janina@freestandards.org		http://a11y.org

If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a different problem.

RE: Information is needed.

[jim grimsby]

Hi, sorry not trying to beat a dead horse here but that is what I was
trying to do be as clear as I could.  I was onistly not sure witch he
was refairing to I had the idea that he already had a box running.  So I
thought better to be safe respond to both points. Sorry for any trouble
I might have caused.  I have benefited from your advice in the past ser
and wish to continue and if I gave offence I do humbly apologize.  When
I was asking how I was wrong I onistly did not understand what I had
said that was not correct.  It was in no way trying to undermined you in
any way.   Thanks again for all the help in the past and hope it will
come in the future.  

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 5:56 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: Information is needed.


OK. You can certainly get the other reading out of that statement, but
it's an obscure interpretation whereas the interpretation that reads it
as "installing LInux" is something we respond to all the time here.

So, I'll withdraw my remark about percentage. I do still think it more
appropriate to answer the common interpretation, not the rather arcane
one that nobody every asks. I think we want to be more than just
technically correct, I think we also want to be very clear. This is
especially true because we have people here who are not native English
speakers.

jim grimsby writes:
> 1. Will speakup supports this during installation  ?
> Where does that say linux installation of what that is why I responded

> the way I did.  As I said he did not say installation of what.  So the

> answer to his unclear question was the answer I gave.  That yes he 
> could use speakup to read the dectalk install and no he could not use 
> the dectalk to install linux.  Also the remark was that my response 
> was totally wrong.  How so for one yes speakup will read the dectalk 
> install and no you can't use dectalk software to install linux so how 
> was the response totally wrong" -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Kenny Hitt
> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 11:37 AM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: Information is needed.
> 
> 
> Hi.
> 
> He asked about installing Linux, not installing DECtalk.
> 
>           Kenny
> 
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2005 at 11:31:52AM -0800, jim grimsby wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Let's please be more careful about our responses.
> > 
> > He was asking about software speech, which makes your response 100%
> > wrong. He was not clear if he was refairing to the install of
dectalk 
> > or the install of linux.  So I responded to both.
> > If you mean will speakup read the dectalk install the answer is a
big
> > you bet. If you mean can you install linux with  the dectalk
software
> > speech the answer is no.  So  how was my response wrong? 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca 
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca 
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Janina Sajka				Phone: +1.202.494.7040
Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC
http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com

Chair, Accessibility Workgroup		Free Standards Group (FSG)
janina@freestandards.org		http://a11y.org

If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a different
problem.


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Re: Information is needed.

[Janina Sajka]

Please don't take my remarks personally. It's clear to me you were
attempting to be thorough.

In fact, I also appreciate your willingness to jump in and give advice
when you were sure you could say something appropriate. Please keep up
both things--asking when you need something, and offering when you have
something to give.

If my remarks offended you, I am sorry. I do appreciate your being here.

PS: I'm not a "sir," but you don't need to say "ma'am," either. No need
for such formalities here.

				Janina

RE: Information is needed.

[jim grimsby]

Wonderful now I am going to go back to work on my dectalk issues.  Lol 

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 10:02 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: Information is needed.


Please don't take my remarks personally. It's clear to me you were
attempting to be thorough.

In fact, I also appreciate your willingness to jump in and give advice
when you were sure you could say something appropriate. Please keep up
both things--asking when you need something, and offering when you have
something to give.

If my remarks offended you, I am sorry. I do appreciate your being here.

PS: I'm not a "sir," but you don't need to say "ma'am," either. No need
for such formalities here.

				Janina

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