* VMware Debian8 and speakup
@ wb9rsq
` Erik Heil
` (2 more replies)
0 siblings, 3 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: wb9rsq @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
I know from reading earlier threads that some mention of this problem has
been made.
However since I wanted to get a fresh start on solving the problem I hope
that a new message will keep it focused.
I first took a working VM of Debian Wheezy 32 bit and did an update, then
upgrade.
After that I followed instructions on how to upgrade to Debian Jessie.
All seemed to go well.
However on the last reboot suddenly no speakup.
I checked with a sighted friend and the login screen was there and I could
login but no speakup.
So I decided to start a new VM and I tried both Jesse 32 and 64 bit versions
from the 8.1.0 iso dvd1.
Installer talked perfectly through the entire process.
First reboot, no speakup.
Login worked but still no speakup.
So since it is a VM I tried several more times with both versions changing
things like desktop and various servers in the software selection area.
Nothing mattered.
No speakup after reboot to installed machine.
I am not even close to being able to compile or debug. I can't do more than
follow a careful string of instructions.
Without any speech in the new VM I really can't do anything at all and
sighted help is not usually available.
So what and how can I figure out what is wrong with speakup in a brand new
VM.
Settings for the VM include 1024MB ram, standard VM scsi virtual controller,
defaults for network and sound as well as display.
The VMware version is 11.2.x.
Since the exact same settings in my old Wheezy VM worked I have no idea what
is going wrong.
I have however had problems now and then when building a new VM under Wheezy
both 32 and 64 from the DVD iso images.
Changing a software selection seemed to fix it and I never pin-pointed which
package was toasting speakup.
So bottom line, why is Debian 8.1.0 in a VM failing to have working speakup
after install completes?
What info can I provide to help define the problem?
How can I fix it?
tnx
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread* Re: VMware Debian8 and speakup VMware Debian8 and speakup wb9rsq @ ` Erik Heil ` covici ` mike ` mike ` Don Raikes 2 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Erik Heil @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hello there, well, I can tell you this, you're not the only person experiencing this problem. However, I can tell you, I have experienced this exact same problem under VMware. What I can tell you is that it is definitely not related to VMware version 11, because the same exact conditions happen in VMware nine. A friend of mine told me that it may be related to how VMware workstation is handling the audio device. However, I have absolutely no way to verify this unfortunately like you, there's not a lighter side assistance near me, but, I can tell you this. The login is actually occurring without any problem. Also, we also know that the PC speaker is enabled. Because, you can press backspace, and you can tell that you are in a console log in. I also tried to install why ASR, thinking that it may be related to speak up. However, there doesn't seem to be any audio in the new VM. I can tell though that the VM actually does have a sound card, and other devices. Sorry I could not be more helpful, but just want to tell you what I am experiencing here. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 22, 2015, at 1:21 PM, <wb9rsq@gmail.com> <wb9rsq@gmail.com> wrote: > > I know from reading earlier threads that some mention of this problem has > been made. > However since I wanted to get a fresh start on solving the problem I hope > that a new message will keep it focused. > I first took a working VM of Debian Wheezy 32 bit and did an update, then > upgrade. > After that I followed instructions on how to upgrade to Debian Jessie. > All seemed to go well. > However on the last reboot suddenly no speakup. > I checked with a sighted friend and the login screen was there and I could > login but no speakup. > So I decided to start a new VM and I tried both Jesse 32 and 64 bit versions > from the 8.1.0 iso dvd1. > Installer talked perfectly through the entire process. > First reboot, no speakup. > Login worked but still no speakup. > So since it is a VM I tried several more times with both versions changing > things like desktop and various servers in the software selection area. > Nothing mattered. > No speakup after reboot to installed machine. > I am not even close to being able to compile or debug. I can't do more than > follow a careful string of instructions. > Without any speech in the new VM I really can't do anything at all and > sighted help is not usually available. > So what and how can I figure out what is wrong with speakup in a brand new > VM. > Settings for the VM include 1024MB ram, standard VM scsi virtual controller, > defaults for network and sound as well as display. > The VMware version is 11.2.x. > Since the exact same settings in my old Wheezy VM worked I have no idea what > is going wrong. > I have however had problems now and then when building a new VM under Wheezy > both 32 and 64 from the DVD iso images. > Changing a software selection seemed to fix it and I never pin-pointed which > package was toasting speakup. > So bottom line, why is Debian 8.1.0 in a VM failing to have working speakup > after install completes? > What info can I provide to help define the problem? > How can I fix it? > tnx > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: VMware Debian8 and speakup ` Erik Heil @ ` covici ` Erik Heil ` Don Raikes ` mike 1 sibling, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: covici @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Ok, can you verify you have sound in your vm, I have a linux vm with workstation 11, not using Debian, but I get sound and speakup and espeak and all the goodies. I am using this on a Linux host, but I think it would work on a windows host as well. I wonder if your sound is muted, for some reason. If you are using alsa, try setting Master to 100% and see what happens, or if you have another computer, use a null modem cable and hook them together and use that as the console. Erik Heil <eheil1@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello there, well, I can tell you this, you're not the only person experiencing this problem. However, I can tell you, I have experienced this exact same problem under VMware. What I can tell you is that it is definitely not related to VMware version 11, because the same exact conditions happen in VMware nine. A friend of mine told me that it may be related to how VMware workstation is handling the audio device. However, I have absolutely no way to verify this unfortunately like you, there's not a lighter side assistance near me, but, I can tell you this. The login is actually occurring without any problem. Also, we also know that the PC speaker is enabled. Because, you can press backspace, and you can tell that you are in a console log in. I also tried to install why ASR, thinking that it may be related to speak up. However, there doesn't seem to be any audio in the new VM. I can tell though that the VM actually does have a sound card, and other devices. Sorry I could not be more helpful, but just want to tell you what I am experiencing here. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Aug 22, 2015, at 1:21 PM, <wb9rsq@gmail.com> <wb9rsq@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I know from reading earlier threads that some mention of this problem has > > been made. > > However since I wanted to get a fresh start on solving the problem I hope > > that a new message will keep it focused. > > I first took a working VM of Debian Wheezy 32 bit and did an update, then > > upgrade. > > After that I followed instructions on how to upgrade to Debian Jessie. > > All seemed to go well. > > However on the last reboot suddenly no speakup. > > I checked with a sighted friend and the login screen was there and I could > > login but no speakup. > > So I decided to start a new VM and I tried both Jesse 32 and 64 bit versions > > from the 8.1.0 iso dvd1. > > Installer talked perfectly through the entire process. > > First reboot, no speakup. > > Login worked but still no speakup. > > So since it is a VM I tried several more times with both versions changing > > things like desktop and various servers in the software selection area. > > Nothing mattered. > > No speakup after reboot to installed machine. > > I am not even close to being able to compile or debug. I can't do more than > > follow a careful string of instructions. > > Without any speech in the new VM I really can't do anything at all and > > sighted help is not usually available. > > So what and how can I figure out what is wrong with speakup in a brand new > > VM. > > Settings for the VM include 1024MB ram, standard VM scsi virtual controller, > > defaults for network and sound as well as display. > > The VMware version is 11.2.x. > > Since the exact same settings in my old Wheezy VM worked I have no idea what > > is going wrong. > > I have however had problems now and then when building a new VM under Wheezy > > both 32 and 64 from the DVD iso images. > > Changing a software selection seemed to fix it and I never pin-pointed which > > package was toasting speakup. > > So bottom line, why is Debian 8.1.0 in a VM failing to have working speakup > > after install completes? > > What info can I provide to help define the problem? > > How can I fix it? > > tnx > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici covici@ccs.covici.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: VMware Debian8 and speakup ` covici @ ` Erik Heil ` covici ` (2 more replies) ` Don Raikes 1 sibling, 3 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Erik Heil @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hello there Well, what is the default for insulation when you speak up? Does it use Paul's audio? As I said, not sure what is actually being used. As this is a default insulation here. I guess where we should go is what actually got changed when the system actually does its first boot? I didn't tell you though, I've actually talk to somebody who use virtual box, and the issue apparently does not exist. So whatever it is, it is VM ware workstation specific. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 23, 2015, at 2:14 PM, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > Ok, can you verify you have sound in your vm, I have a linux vm with > workstation 11, not using Debian, but I get sound and speakup and espeak > and all the goodies. I am using this on a Linux host, but I think it > would work on a windows host as well. I wonder if your sound is muted, > for some reason. If you are using alsa, try setting Master to 100% and > see what happens, or if you have another computer, use a null modem > cable and hook them together and use that as the console. > > Erik Heil <eheil1@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hello there, well, I can tell you this, you're not the only person experiencing this problem. However, I can tell you, I have experienced this exact same problem under VMware. What I can tell you is that it is definitely not related to VMware version 11, because the same exact conditions happen in VMware nine. A friend of mine told me that it may be related to how VMware workstation is handling the audio device. However, I have absolutely no way to verify this unfortunately like you, there's not a lighter side assistance near me, but, I can tell you this. The login is actually occurring without any problem. Also, we also know that the PC speaker is enabled. Because, you can press backspace, and you can tell that you are in a console log in. I also tried to install why ASR, thinking that it may be related to speak up. However, there doesn't seem to be any audio in the new VM. I can tell though that the VM actually does have a sound card, and other devices. Sorry I could not be more helpful, but just want to tell you what I am experiencing here. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Aug 22, 2015, at 1:21 PM, <wb9rsq@gmail.com> <wb9rsq@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> I know from reading earlier threads that some mention of this problem has >>> been made. >>> However since I wanted to get a fresh start on solving the problem I hope >>> that a new message will keep it focused. >>> I first took a working VM of Debian Wheezy 32 bit and did an update, then >>> upgrade. >>> After that I followed instructions on how to upgrade to Debian Jessie. >>> All seemed to go well. >>> However on the last reboot suddenly no speakup. >>> I checked with a sighted friend and the login screen was there and I could >>> login but no speakup. >>> So I decided to start a new VM and I tried both Jesse 32 and 64 bit versions >>> from the 8.1.0 iso dvd1. >>> Installer talked perfectly through the entire process. >>> First reboot, no speakup. >>> Login worked but still no speakup. >>> So since it is a VM I tried several more times with both versions changing >>> things like desktop and various servers in the software selection area. >>> Nothing mattered. >>> No speakup after reboot to installed machine. >>> I am not even close to being able to compile or debug. I can't do more than >>> follow a careful string of instructions. >>> Without any speech in the new VM I really can't do anything at all and >>> sighted help is not usually available. >>> So what and how can I figure out what is wrong with speakup in a brand new >>> VM. >>> Settings for the VM include 1024MB ram, standard VM scsi virtual controller, >>> defaults for network and sound as well as display. >>> The VMware version is 11.2.x. >>> Since the exact same settings in my old Wheezy VM worked I have no idea what >>> is going wrong. >>> I have however had problems now and then when building a new VM under Wheezy >>> both 32 and 64 from the DVD iso images. >>> Changing a software selection seemed to fix it and I never pin-pointed which >>> package was toasting speakup. >>> So bottom line, why is Debian 8.1.0 in a VM failing to have working speakup >>> after install completes? >>> What info can I provide to help define the problem? >>> How can I fix it? >>> tnx >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Speakup mailing list >>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org >>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@linux-speakup.org >> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: > How do > you spend it? > > John Covici > covici@ccs.covici.com > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: VMware Debian8 and speakup ` Erik Heil @ ` covici ` Gregory Nowak ` Don Raikes 2 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: covici @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Do you have a Braille display by any chance? Otherwise, I am not sure, it may depend on what you selected during the install. But you could echo bash standard output and standard error to the serial port and see if speakup_soft is loaded, or just try to modprobe speakup_soft, then type espeakup and see what happens -- did you try that? Erik Heil <eheil1@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello there > Well, what is the default for insulation when you speak up? Does it use Paul's audio? As I said, not sure what is actually being used. As this is a default insulation here. I guess where we should go is what actually got changed when the system actually does its first boot? I didn't tell you though, I've actually talk to somebody who use virtual box, and the issue apparently does not exist. So whatever it is, it is VM ware workstation specific. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Aug 23, 2015, at 2:14 PM, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > > > Ok, can you verify you have sound in your vm, I have a linux vm with > > workstation 11, not using Debian, but I get sound and speakup and espeak > > and all the goodies. I am using this on a Linux host, but I think it > > would work on a windows host as well. I wonder if your sound is muted, > > for some reason. If you are using alsa, try setting Master to 100% and > > see what happens, or if you have another computer, use a null modem > > cable and hook them together and use that as the console. > > > > Erik Heil <eheil1@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Hello there, well, I can tell you this, you're not the only person experiencing this problem. However, I can tell you, I have experienced this exact same problem under VMware. What I can tell you is that it is definitely not related to VMware version 11, because the same exact conditions happen in VMware nine. A friend of mine told me that it may be related to how VMware workstation is handling the audio device. However, I have absolutely no way to verify this unfortunately like you, there's not a lighter side assistance near me, but, I can tell you this. The login is actually occurring without any problem. Also, we also know that the PC speaker is enabled. Because, you can press backspace, and you can tell that you are in a console log in. I also tried to install why ASR, thinking that it may be related to speak up. However, there doesn't seem to be any audio in the new VM. I can tell though that the VM actually does have a sound card, and other devices. Sorry I could not be more helpful, but just want to tell you what I am experiencing here. > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >>> On Aug 22, 2015, at 1:21 PM, <wb9rsq@gmail.com> <wb9rsq@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> I know from reading earlier threads that some mention of this problem has > >>> been made. > >>> However since I wanted to get a fresh start on solving the problem I hope > >>> that a new message will keep it focused. > >>> I first took a working VM of Debian Wheezy 32 bit and did an update, then > >>> upgrade. > >>> After that I followed instructions on how to upgrade to Debian Jessie. > >>> All seemed to go well. > >>> However on the last reboot suddenly no speakup. > >>> I checked with a sighted friend and the login screen was there and I could > >>> login but no speakup. > >>> So I decided to start a new VM and I tried both Jesse 32 and 64 bit versions > >>> from the 8.1.0 iso dvd1. > >>> Installer talked perfectly through the entire process. > >>> First reboot, no speakup. > >>> Login worked but still no speakup. > >>> So since it is a VM I tried several more times with both versions changing > >>> things like desktop and various servers in the software selection area. > >>> Nothing mattered. > >>> No speakup after reboot to installed machine. > >>> I am not even close to being able to compile or debug. I can't do more than > >>> follow a careful string of instructions. > >>> Without any speech in the new VM I really can't do anything at all and > >>> sighted help is not usually available. > >>> So what and how can I figure out what is wrong with speakup in a brand new > >>> VM. > >>> Settings for the VM include 1024MB ram, standard VM scsi virtual controller, > >>> defaults for network and sound as well as display. > >>> The VMware version is 11.2.x. > >>> Since the exact same settings in my old Wheezy VM worked I have no idea what > >>> is going wrong. > >>> I have however had problems now and then when building a new VM under Wheezy > >>> both 32 and 64 from the DVD iso images. > >>> Changing a software selection seemed to fix it and I never pin-pointed which > >>> package was toasting speakup. > >>> So bottom line, why is Debian 8.1.0 in a VM failing to have working speakup > >>> after install completes? > >>> What info can I provide to help define the problem? > >>> How can I fix it? > >>> tnx > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Speakup mailing list > >>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org > >>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Speakup mailing list > >> Speakup@linux-speakup.org > >> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > -- > > Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: > > How do > > you spend it? > > > > John Covici > > covici@ccs.covici.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici covici@ccs.covici.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: VMware Debian8 and speakup ` Erik Heil ` covici @ ` Gregory Nowak ` Don Raikes 2 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I can confirm this. I've done multiple fresh installs of debian 8 under virtualbox for testing purposes, and had speech every single time, no exceptions. Greg On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 03:03:37PM -0400, Erik Heil wrote: > Hello there > Well, what is the default for insulation when you speak up? Does it use Paul's audio? As I said, not sure what is actually being used. As this is a default insulation here. I guess where we should go is what actually got changed when the system actually does its first boot? I didn't tell you though, I've actually talk to somebody who use virtual box, and the issue apparently does not exist. So whatever it is, it is VM ware workstation specific. -- web site: http://www.gregn.net gpg public key: http://www.gregn.net/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) If we haven't been in touch before, e-mail me before adding me to your contacts. -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* RE: VMware Debian8 and speakup ` Erik Heil ` covici ` Gregory Nowak @ ` Don Raikes 2 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Don Raikes @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. When the vm is running, get out of the guest and in the host check to make sure that soundcard is checked in the media -> removable devices menu. This often gets unchecked for me. It works perfectly on my windows 7 system but is not sticking on my windows 8.1 host. -----Original Message----- From: Erik Heil [mailto:eheil1@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 12:04 PM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: Re: VMware Debian8 and speakup Hello there Well, what is the default for insulation when you speak up? Does it use Paul's audio? As I said, not sure what is actually being used. As this is a default insulation here. I guess where we should go is what actually got changed when the system actually does its first boot? I didn't tell you though, I've actually talk to somebody who use virtual box, and the issue apparently does not exist. So whatever it is, it is VM ware workstation specific. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 23, 2015, at 2:14 PM, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > Ok, can you verify you have sound in your vm, I have a linux vm with > workstation 11, not using Debian, but I get sound and speakup and > espeak and all the goodies. I am using this on a Linux host, but I > think it would work on a windows host as well. I wonder if your sound > is muted, for some reason. If you are using alsa, try setting Master > to 100% and see what happens, or if you have another computer, use a > null modem cable and hook them together and use that as the console. > > Erik Heil <eheil1@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hello there, well, I can tell you this, you're not the only person experiencing this problem. However, I can tell you, I have experienced this exact same problem under VMware. What I can tell you is that it is definitely not related to VMware version 11, because the same exact conditions happen in VMware nine. A friend of mine told me that it may be related to how VMware workstation is handling the audio device. However, I have absolutely no way to verify this unfortunately like you, there's not a lighter side assistance near me, but, I can tell you this. The login is actually occurring without any problem. Also, we also know that the PC speaker is enabled. Because, you can press backspace, and you can tell that you are in a console log in. I also tried to install why ASR, thinking that it may be related to speak up. However, there doesn't seem to be any audio in the new VM. I can tell though that the VM actually does have a sound card, and other devices. Sorry I could not be more helpful, but just want to tell you what I am experiencing here. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Aug 22, 2015, at 1:21 PM, <wb9rsq@gmail.com> <wb9rsq@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> I know from reading earlier threads that some mention of this >>> problem has been made. >>> However since I wanted to get a fresh start on solving the problem I >>> hope that a new message will keep it focused. >>> I first took a working VM of Debian Wheezy 32 bit and did an update, >>> then upgrade. >>> After that I followed instructions on how to upgrade to Debian Jessie. >>> All seemed to go well. >>> However on the last reboot suddenly no speakup. >>> I checked with a sighted friend and the login screen was there and I >>> could login but no speakup. >>> So I decided to start a new VM and I tried both Jesse 32 and 64 bit >>> versions from the 8.1.0 iso dvd1. >>> Installer talked perfectly through the entire process. >>> First reboot, no speakup. >>> Login worked but still no speakup. >>> So since it is a VM I tried several more times with both versions >>> changing things like desktop and various servers in the software selection area. >>> Nothing mattered. >>> No speakup after reboot to installed machine. >>> I am not even close to being able to compile or debug. I can't do >>> more than follow a careful string of instructions. >>> Without any speech in the new VM I really can't do anything at all >>> and sighted help is not usually available. >>> So what and how can I figure out what is wrong with speakup in a >>> brand new VM. >>> Settings for the VM include 1024MB ram, standard VM scsi virtual >>> controller, defaults for network and sound as well as display. >>> The VMware version is 11.2.x. >>> Since the exact same settings in my old Wheezy VM worked I have no >>> idea what is going wrong. >>> I have however had problems now and then when building a new VM >>> under Wheezy both 32 and 64 from the DVD iso images. >>> Changing a software selection seemed to fix it and I never >>> pin-pointed which package was toasting speakup. >>> So bottom line, why is Debian 8.1.0 in a VM failing to have working >>> speakup after install completes? >>> What info can I provide to help define the problem? >>> How can I fix it? >>> tnx >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Speakup mailing list >>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org >>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@linux-speakup.org >> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: > How do > you spend it? > > John Covici > covici@ccs.covici.com > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@linux-speakup.org http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* RE: VMware Debian8 and speakup ` covici ` Erik Heil @ ` Don Raikes 1 sibling, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Don Raikes @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Another thing to try after making sure that pulseaudio is running and doing modprobe Speakup__soft is to run the following commands: $pactl set-sink-mute 0 0 $ pactl set-sink-volume 0 100% This unmutes pulseaudio and sets the volume to 100%. -----Original Message----- From: covici@ccs.covici.com [mailto:covici@ccs.covici.com] Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 11:15 AM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: Re: VMware Debian8 and speakup Ok, can you verify you have sound in your vm, I have a linux vm with workstation 11, not using Debian, but I get sound and speakup and espeak and all the goodies. I am using this on a Linux host, but I think it would work on a windows host as well. I wonder if your sound is muted, for some reason. If you are using alsa, try setting Master to 100% and see what happens, or if you have another computer, use a null modem cable and hook them together and use that as the console. Erik Heil <eheil1@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello there, well, I can tell you this, you're not the only person experiencing this problem. However, I can tell you, I have experienced this exact same problem under VMware. What I can tell you is that it is definitely not related to VMware version 11, because the same exact conditions happen in VMware nine. A friend of mine told me that it may be related to how VMware workstation is handling the audio device. However, I have absolutely no way to verify this unfortunately like you, there's not a lighter side assistance near me, but, I can tell you this. The login is actually occurring without any problem. Also, we also know that the PC speaker is enabled. Because, you can press backspace, and you can tell that you are in a console log in. I also tried to install why ASR, thinking that it may be related to speak up. However, there doesn't seem to be any audio in the new VM. I can tell though that the VM actually does have a sound card, and other devices. Sorry I could not be more helpful, but just want to tell you what I am experiencing here. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Aug 22, 2015, at 1:21 PM, <wb9rsq@gmail.com> <wb9rsq@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I know from reading earlier threads that some mention of this > > problem has been made. > > However since I wanted to get a fresh start on solving the problem I > > hope that a new message will keep it focused. > > I first took a working VM of Debian Wheezy 32 bit and did an update, > > then upgrade. > > After that I followed instructions on how to upgrade to Debian Jessie. > > All seemed to go well. > > However on the last reboot suddenly no speakup. > > I checked with a sighted friend and the login screen was there and I > > could login but no speakup. > > So I decided to start a new VM and I tried both Jesse 32 and 64 bit > > versions from the 8.1.0 iso dvd1. > > Installer talked perfectly through the entire process. > > First reboot, no speakup. > > Login worked but still no speakup. > > So since it is a VM I tried several more times with both versions > > changing things like desktop and various servers in the software selection area. > > Nothing mattered. > > No speakup after reboot to installed machine. > > I am not even close to being able to compile or debug. I can't do > > more than follow a careful string of instructions. > > Without any speech in the new VM I really can't do anything at all > > and sighted help is not usually available. > > So what and how can I figure out what is wrong with speakup in a > > brand new VM. > > Settings for the VM include 1024MB ram, standard VM scsi virtual > > controller, defaults for network and sound as well as display. > > The VMware version is 11.2.x. > > Since the exact same settings in my old Wheezy VM worked I have no > > idea what is going wrong. > > I have however had problems now and then when building a new VM > > under Wheezy both 32 and 64 from the DVD iso images. > > Changing a software selection seemed to fix it and I never > > pin-pointed which package was toasting speakup. > > So bottom line, why is Debian 8.1.0 in a VM failing to have working > > speakup after install completes? > > What info can I provide to help define the problem? > > How can I fix it? > > tnx > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici covici@ccs.covici.com _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@linux-speakup.org http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* RE: VMware Debian8 and speakup ` Erik Heil ` covici @ ` mike ` Don Raikes 1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: mike @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.' Hi, I find that here for whatever reason any Linux distro I install with vmware workstation it disconnects the sound card and when I reconnect it sound works except for debian. -----Original Message----- From: Speakup [mailto:speakup-bounces@linux-speakup.org] On Behalf Of Erik Heil Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 2:04 PM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <speakup@linux-speakup.org> Subject: Re: VMware Debian8 and speakup Hello there, well, I can tell you this, you're not the only person experiencing this problem. However, I can tell you, I have experienced this exact same problem under VMware. What I can tell you is that it is definitely not related to VMware version 11, because the same exact conditions happen in VMware nine. A friend of mine told me that it may be related to how VMware workstation is handling the audio device. However, I have absolutely no way to verify this unfortunately like you, there's not a lighter side assistance near me, but, I can tell you this. The login is actually occurring without any problem. Also, we also know that the PC speaker is enabled. Because, you can press backspace, and you can tell that you are in a console log in. I also tried to install why ASR, thinking that it may be related to speak up. However, there doesn't seem to be any audio in the new VM. I can tell though that the VM actually does have a sound card, and other devices. Sorry I could not be more helpful, but just want to tell you what I am experiencing here. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 22, 2015, at 1:21 PM, <wb9rsq@gmail.com> <wb9rsq@gmail.com> wrote: > > I know from reading earlier threads that some mention of this problem > has been made. > However since I wanted to get a fresh start on solving the problem I > hope that a new message will keep it focused. > I first took a working VM of Debian Wheezy 32 bit and did an update, > then upgrade. > After that I followed instructions on how to upgrade to Debian Jessie. > All seemed to go well. > However on the last reboot suddenly no speakup. > I checked with a sighted friend and the login screen was there and I > could login but no speakup. > So I decided to start a new VM and I tried both Jesse 32 and 64 bit > versions from the 8.1.0 iso dvd1. > Installer talked perfectly through the entire process. > First reboot, no speakup. > Login worked but still no speakup. > So since it is a VM I tried several more times with both versions > changing things like desktop and various servers in the software selection area. > Nothing mattered. > No speakup after reboot to installed machine. > I am not even close to being able to compile or debug. I can't do more > than follow a careful string of instructions. > Without any speech in the new VM I really can't do anything at all and > sighted help is not usually available. > So what and how can I figure out what is wrong with speakup in a brand > new VM. > Settings for the VM include 1024MB ram, standard VM scsi virtual > controller, defaults for network and sound as well as display. > The VMware version is 11.2.x. > Since the exact same settings in my old Wheezy VM worked I have no > idea what is going wrong. > I have however had problems now and then when building a new VM under > Wheezy both 32 and 64 from the DVD iso images. > Changing a software selection seemed to fix it and I never pin-pointed > which package was toasting speakup. > So bottom line, why is Debian 8.1.0 in a VM failing to have working > speakup after install completes? > What info can I provide to help define the problem? > How can I fix it? > tnx > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@linux-speakup.org http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* RE: VMware Debian8 and speakup ` mike @ ` Don Raikes 0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Don Raikes @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. What I have found is that only one vm can have the soundcard checked at a time even if that vm is powered off the soundcard will not stay checked on other vms.-----Original Message----- From: mike [mailto:mmstopka28@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 1:16 PM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: RE: VMware Debian8 and speakup Hi, I find that here for whatever reason any Linux distro I install with vmware workstation it disconnects the sound card and when I reconnect it sound works except for debian. -----Original Message----- From: Speakup [mailto:speakup-bounces@linux-speakup.org] On Behalf Of Erik Heil Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 2:04 PM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <speakup@linux-speakup.org> Subject: Re: VMware Debian8 and speakup Hello there, well, I can tell you this, you're not the only person experiencing this problem. However, I can tell you, I have experienced this exact same problem under VMware. What I can tell you is that it is definitely not related to VMware version 11, because the same exact conditions happen in VMware nine. A friend of mine told me that it may be related to how VMware workstation is handling the audio device. However, I have absolutely no way to verify this unfortunately like you, there's not a lighter side assistance near me, but, I can tell you this. The login is actually occurring without any problem. Also, we also know that the PC speaker is enabled. Because, you can press backspace, and you can tell that you are in a console log in. I also tried to install why ASR, thinking that it may be related to speak up. However, there doesn't seem to be any audio in the new VM. I can tell though that the VM actually does have a sound card, and other devices. Sorry I could not be more helpful, but just want to tell you what I am experiencing here. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 22, 2015, at 1:21 PM, <wb9rsq@gmail.com> <wb9rsq@gmail.com> wrote: > > I know from reading earlier threads that some mention of this problem > has been made. > However since I wanted to get a fresh start on solving the problem I > hope that a new message will keep it focused. > I first took a working VM of Debian Wheezy 32 bit and did an update, > then upgrade. > After that I followed instructions on how to upgrade to Debian Jessie. > All seemed to go well. > However on the last reboot suddenly no speakup. > I checked with a sighted friend and the login screen was there and I > could login but no speakup. > So I decided to start a new VM and I tried both Jesse 32 and 64 bit > versions from the 8.1.0 iso dvd1. > Installer talked perfectly through the entire process. > First reboot, no speakup. > Login worked but still no speakup. > So since it is a VM I tried several more times with both versions > changing things like desktop and various servers in the software selection area. > Nothing mattered. > No speakup after reboot to installed machine. > I am not even close to being able to compile or debug. I can't do more > than follow a careful string of instructions. > Without any speech in the new VM I really can't do anything at all and > sighted help is not usually available. > So what and how can I figure out what is wrong with speakup in a brand > new VM. > Settings for the VM include 1024MB ram, standard VM scsi virtual > controller, defaults for network and sound as well as display. > The VMware version is 11.2.x. > Since the exact same settings in my old Wheezy VM worked I have no > idea what is going wrong. > I have however had problems now and then when building a new VM under > Wheezy both 32 and 64 from the DVD iso images. > Changing a software selection seemed to fix it and I never pin-pointed > which package was toasting speakup. > So bottom line, why is Debian 8.1.0 in a VM failing to have working > speakup after install completes? > What info can I provide to help define the problem? > How can I fix it? > tnx > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@linux-speakup.org http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@linux-speakup.org http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* RE: VMware Debian8 and speakup VMware Debian8 and speakup wb9rsq ` Erik Heil @ ` mike ` Don Raikes 2 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: mike @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.' Hi, I am in the process of trying to figure this out as well all my new installs of debian 8 have no speakup either. -----Original Message----- From: Speakup [mailto:speakup-bounces@linux-speakup.org] On Behalf Of wb9rsq@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 1:22 PM To: speakup@linux-speakup.org Subject: VMware Debian8 and speakup I know from reading earlier threads that some mention of this problem has been made. However since I wanted to get a fresh start on solving the problem I hope that a new message will keep it focused. I first took a working VM of Debian Wheezy 32 bit and did an update, then upgrade. After that I followed instructions on how to upgrade to Debian Jessie. All seemed to go well. However on the last reboot suddenly no speakup. I checked with a sighted friend and the login screen was there and I could login but no speakup. So I decided to start a new VM and I tried both Jesse 32 and 64 bit versions from the 8.1.0 iso dvd1. Installer talked perfectly through the entire process. First reboot, no speakup. Login worked but still no speakup. So since it is a VM I tried several more times with both versions changing things like desktop and various servers in the software selection area. Nothing mattered. No speakup after reboot to installed machine. I am not even close to being able to compile or debug. I can't do more than follow a careful string of instructions. Without any speech in the new VM I really can't do anything at all and sighted help is not usually available. So what and how can I figure out what is wrong with speakup in a brand new VM. Settings for the VM include 1024MB ram, standard VM scsi virtual controller, defaults for network and sound as well as display. The VMware version is 11.2.x. Since the exact same settings in my old Wheezy VM worked I have no idea what is going wrong. I have however had problems now and then when building a new VM under Wheezy both 32 and 64 from the DVD iso images. Changing a software selection seemed to fix it and I never pin-pointed which package was toasting speakup. So bottom line, why is Debian 8.1.0 in a VM failing to have working speakup after install completes? What info can I provide to help define the problem? How can I fix it? tnx _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@linux-speakup.org http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* RE: VMware Debian8 and speakup VMware Debian8 and speakup wb9rsq ` Erik Heil ` mike @ ` Don Raikes 2 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Don Raikes @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Having had a similar issue with kali 2.0 based on jesse, the things I found were: 1. pulseaudio is not starting at boot. I added the following line to /etc/rc.local: /usr/bin/pulseaudio --system -D Also I had to run modprobe Speakup=soft then start espeakup. This got Speakup working for me. It may be possible to add the modprobe to the /etc/modules file, and the espeakup command to /etc/rc.local. Haven't tried these options yet. -----Original Message----- From: wb9rsq@gmail.com [mailto:wb9rsq@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 10:22 AM To: speakup@linux-speakup.org Subject: VMware Debian8 and speakup I know from reading earlier threads that some mention of this problem has been made. However since I wanted to get a fresh start on solving the problem I hope that a new message will keep it focused. I first took a working VM of Debian Wheezy 32 bit and did an update, then upgrade. After that I followed instructions on how to upgrade to Debian Jessie. All seemed to go well. However on the last reboot suddenly no speakup. I checked with a sighted friend and the login screen was there and I could login but no speakup. So I decided to start a new VM and I tried both Jesse 32 and 64 bit versions from the 8.1.0 iso dvd1. Installer talked perfectly through the entire process. First reboot, no speakup. Login worked but still no speakup. So since it is a VM I tried several more times with both versions changing things like desktop and various servers in the software selection area. Nothing mattered. No speakup after reboot to installed machine. I am not even close to being able to compile or debug. I can't do more than follow a careful string of instructions. Without any speech in the new VM I really can't do anything at all and sighted help is not usually available. So what and how can I figure out what is wrong with speakup in a brand new VM. Settings for the VM include 1024MB ram, standard VM scsi virtual controller, defaults for network and sound as well as display. The VMware version is 11.2.x. Since the exact same settings in my old Wheezy VM worked I have no idea what is going wrong. I have however had problems now and then when building a new VM under Wheezy both 32 and 64 from the DVD iso images. Changing a software selection seemed to fix it and I never pin-pointed which package was toasting speakup. So bottom line, why is Debian 8.1.0 in a VM failing to have working speakup after install completes? What info can I provide to help define the problem? How can I fix it? tnx _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@linux-speakup.org http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* RE: VMware Debian8 and speakup @ Chris Zenchenko 0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Chris Zenchenko @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup The alsa mixer had master set just fine but the wave input device was 0. The thing was working all the time but no way to hear it. Only when I finally got my braille display working did I figure this out. However the key was not installing any desktops. If I selected even the default basic desktop the braille display didn't work with Speakup so I had no idea what was going on. With only software choices 8 10 and 11 the braille display stayed working after a restart from install. Then I could run alsamixer and found the second item, not the first wich for me was the master. The second item , single right arrow then space and up arrow was 0. Now it is cranked and Speakup is happy, me too. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
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