From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 80D401EF243; Sun, 23 Aug 2015 15:32:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail0131.smtp25.com (mail0131.smtp25.com [75.126.84.131]) by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9FAC31EF235 for ; Sun, 23 Aug 2015 15:32:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ccs.covici.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ccs.covici.com (8.14.9/8.14.8) with ESMTP id t7NJW8UW005914 for ; Sun, 23 Aug 2015 15:32:08 -0400 From: covici@ccs.covici.com To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: Re: VMware Debian8 and speakup In-reply-to: <9ED1B185-20DA-4814-9B19-B18D99208C4B@gmail.com> References: <000201d0dcff$01a6e370$04f4aa50$@gmail.com> <4FA00776-BA1E-4B10-A205-624A9E84F69E@gmail.com> <3943.1440353699@ccs.covici.com> <9ED1B185-20DA-4814-9B19-B18D99208C4B@gmail.com> Comments: In-reply-to Erik Heil message dated "Sun, 23 Aug 2015 15:03:37 -0400." X-Mailer: MH-E 8.5; nmh 1.6; GNU Emacs 23.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <5912.1440358327.1@ccs.covici.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 15:32:08 -0400 Message-ID: <5913.1440358328@ccs.covici.com> X-SpamH-OriginatingIP: 70.109.53.110 X-SpamH-Filter: d-out-001.smtp25.com-t7NJW8MH028276 X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 X-BeenThere: speakup@linux-speakup.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 19:32:12 -0000 Do you have a Braille display by any chance? Otherwise, I am not sure, it may depend on what you selected during the install. But you could echo bash standard output and standard error to the serial port and see if speakup_soft is loaded, or just try to modprobe speakup_soft, then type espeakup and see what happens -- did you try that? Erik Heil wrote: > Hello there = > Well, what is the default for insulation when you speak up? Does it use = Paul's audio? As I said, not sure what is actually being used. As this is = a default insulation here. I guess where we should go is what actually got= changed when the system actually does its first boot? I didn't tell you t= hough, I've actually talk to somebody who use virtual box, and the issue a= pparently does not exist. So whatever it is, it is VM ware workstation spe= cific. > = > Sent from my iPhone > = > > On Aug 23, 2015, at 2:14 PM, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > = > > Ok, can you verify you have sound in your vm, I have a linux vm with > > workstation 11, not using Debian, but I get sound and speakup and espe= ak > > and all the goodies. I am using this on a Linux host, but I think it > > would work on a windows host as well. I wonder if your sound is muted= , > > for some reason. If you are using alsa, try setting Master to 100% a= nd > > see what happens, or if you have another computer, use a null modem > > cable and hook them together and use that as the console. > > = > > Erik Heil wrote: > > = > >> Hello there, well, I can tell you this, you're not the only person ex= periencing this problem. However, I can tell you, I have experienced this = exact same problem under VMware. What I can tell you is that it is definit= ely not related to VMware version 11, because the same exact conditions ha= ppen in VMware nine. A friend of mine told me that it may be related to ho= w VMware workstation is handling the audio device. However, I have absolut= ely no way to verify this unfortunately like you, there's not a lighter si= de assistance near me, but, I can tell you this. The login is actually occ= urring without any problem. Also, we also know that the PC speaker is enab= led. Because, you can press backspace, and you can tell that you are in a = console log in. I also tried to install why ASR, thinking that it may be r= elated to speak up. However, there doesn't seem to be any audio in the new= VM. I can tell though that the VM actually does have a sound card, and ot= her devices. Sorry I could not be more helpful, but just want to tell you = what I am experiencing here. = > >> = > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> = > >>> On Aug 22, 2015, at 1:21 PM, w= rote: > >>> = > >>> I know from reading earlier threads that some mention of this proble= m has > >>> been made. > >>> However since I wanted to get a fresh start on solving the problem I= hope > >>> that a new message will keep it focused. > >>> I first took a working VM of Debian Wheezy 32 bit and did an update,= then > >>> upgrade. > >>> After that I followed instructions on how to upgrade to Debian Jessi= e. > >>> All seemed to go well. > >>> However on the last reboot suddenly no speakup. > >>> I checked with a sighted friend and the login screen was there and I= could > >>> login but no speakup. > >>> So I decided to start a new VM and I tried both Jesse 32 and 64 bit = versions > >>> from the 8.1.0 iso dvd1. > >>> Installer talked perfectly through the entire process. > >>> First reboot, no speakup. > >>> Login worked but still no speakup. > >>> So since it is a VM I tried several more times with both versions ch= anging > >>> things like desktop and various servers in the software selection ar= ea. > >>> Nothing mattered. > >>> No speakup after reboot to installed machine. > >>> I am not even close to being able to compile or debug. I can't do mo= re than > >>> follow a careful string of instructions. > >>> Without any speech in the new VM I really can't do anything at all a= nd > >>> sighted help is not usually available. > >>> So what and how can I figure out what is wrong with speakup in a bra= nd new > >>> VM. > >>> Settings for the VM include 1024MB ram, standard VM scsi virtual con= troller, > >>> defaults for network and sound as well as display. > >>> The VMware version is 11.2.x. > >>> Since the exact same settings in my old Wheezy VM worked I have no i= dea what > >>> is going wrong. > >>> I have however had problems now and then when building a new VM unde= r Wheezy > >>> both 32 and 64 from the DVD iso images. > >>> Changing a software selection seemed to fix it and I never pin-point= ed which > >>> package was toasting speakup. > >>> So bottom line, why is Debian 8.1.0 in a VM failing to have working = speakup > >>> after install completes? > >>> What info can I provide to help define the problem? > >>> How can I fix it? > >>> tnx > >>> = > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Speakup mailing list > >>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org > >>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Speakup mailing list > >> Speakup@linux-speakup.org > >> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > = > > -- = > > Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: > > How do > > you spend it? > > = > > John Covici > > covici@ccs.covici.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- = Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici covici@ccs.covici.com