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[98.221.211.228]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w190sm9405119qha.0.2015.08.23.12.03.01 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 23 Aug 2015 12:03:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Erik Heil Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: VMware Debian8 and speakup Message-Id: <9ED1B185-20DA-4814-9B19-B18D99208C4B@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 15:03:37 -0400 References: <000201d0dcff$01a6e370$04f4aa50$@gmail.com> <4FA00776-BA1E-4B10-A205-624A9E84F69E@gmail.com> <3943.1440353699@ccs.covici.com> In-Reply-To: <3943.1440353699@ccs.covici.com> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (13A4325c) X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 X-BeenThere: speakup@linux-speakup.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 19:03:05 -0000 Hello there=20 Well, what is the default for insulation when you speak up? Does it use Paul= 's audio? As I said, not sure what is actually being used. As this is a defa= ult insulation here. I guess where we should go is what actually got changed= when the system actually does its first boot? I didn't tell you though, I'v= e actually talk to somebody who use virtual box, and the issue apparently do= es not exist. So whatever it is, it is VM ware workstation specific. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 23, 2015, at 2:14 PM, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote: >=20 > Ok, can you verify you have sound in your vm, I have a linux vm with > workstation 11, not using Debian, but I get sound and speakup and espeak > and all the goodies. I am using this on a Linux host, but I think it > would work on a windows host as well. I wonder if your sound is muted, > for some reason. If you are using alsa, try setting Master to 100% and > see what happens, or if you have another computer, use a null modem > cable and hook them together and use that as the console. >=20 > Erik Heil wrote: >=20 >> Hello there, well, I can tell you this, you're not the only person experi= encing this problem. However, I can tell you, I have experienced this exact s= ame problem under VMware. What I can tell you is that it is definitely not r= elated to VMware version 11, because the same exact conditions happen in VMw= are nine. A friend of mine told me that it may be related to how VMware work= station is handling the audio device. However, I have absolutely no way to v= erify this unfortunately like you, there's not a lighter side assistance nea= r me, but, I can tell you this. The login is actually occurring without any p= roblem. Also, we also know that the PC speaker is enabled. Because, you can p= ress backspace, and you can tell that you are in a console log in. I also tr= ied to install why ASR, thinking that it may be related to speak up. However= , there doesn't seem to be any audio in the new VM. I can tell though that t= he VM actually does have a sound card, and other devices. Sorry I could not b= e more helpful, but just want to tell you what I am experiencing here. =20 >>=20 >> Sent from my iPhone >>=20 >>> On Aug 22, 2015, at 1:21 PM, wrote= : >>>=20 >>> I know from reading earlier threads that some mention of this problem ha= s >>> been made. >>> However since I wanted to get a fresh start on solving the problem I hop= e >>> that a new message will keep it focused. >>> I first took a working VM of Debian Wheezy 32 bit and did an update, the= n >>> upgrade. >>> After that I followed instructions on how to upgrade to Debian Jessie. >>> All seemed to go well. >>> However on the last reboot suddenly no speakup. >>> I checked with a sighted friend and the login screen was there and I cou= ld >>> login but no speakup. >>> So I decided to start a new VM and I tried both Jesse 32 and 64 bit vers= ions >>> from the 8.1.0 iso dvd1. >>> Installer talked perfectly through the entire process. >>> First reboot, no speakup. >>> Login worked but still no speakup. >>> So since it is a VM I tried several more times with both versions changi= ng >>> things like desktop and various servers in the software selection area. >>> Nothing mattered. >>> No speakup after reboot to installed machine. >>> I am not even close to being able to compile or debug. I can't do more t= han >>> follow a careful string of instructions. >>> Without any speech in the new VM I really can't do anything at all and >>> sighted help is not usually available. >>> So what and how can I figure out what is wrong with speakup in a brand n= ew >>> VM. >>> Settings for the VM include 1024MB ram, standard VM scsi virtual control= ler, >>> defaults for network and sound as well as display. >>> The VMware version is 11.2.x. >>> Since the exact same settings in my old Wheezy VM worked I have no idea w= hat >>> is going wrong. >>> I have however had problems now and then when building a new VM under Wh= eezy >>> both 32 and 64 from the DVD iso images. >>> Changing a software selection seemed to fix it and I never pin-pointed w= hich >>> package was toasting speakup. >>> So bottom line, why is Debian 8.1.0 in a VM failing to have working spea= kup >>> after install completes? >>> What info can I provide to help define the problem? >>> How can I fix it? >>> tnx >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Speakup mailing list >>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org >>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@linux-speakup.org >> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup >=20 > --=20 > Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: > How do > you spend it? >=20 > John Covici > covici@ccs.covici.com > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup