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* Now what?
       [not found] <001101c33154$79e88000$481e0343@pcuser>
@  ` Ann Parsons
     ` jude dashiell
                     ` (4 more replies)
  0 siblings, 5 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Ann Parsons @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Kathy Seven Williams; +Cc: Speakup List

Hi Kathy,

>>>>> "Kathy" == Kathy Seven Williams <kseven@tscnet.com> writes:

    Kathy> OK, I've finished my computer building class, and as my
    Kathy> reward, my instructor gave me Linux in a self-bootable
    Kathy> CD-ROM version I can use right away. I think it's called
    Kathy> Knorpix or something like that. I've not even triedit
    Kathy> yet. Where do I go from here? Where and how do I get access
    Kathy> so I can play?


Well, Kathy, I've never heard of Norpix.  I have heard of Red Hat,
Debian, Slackware, but not Norpix.   There are bootable images you can
download from the speakup site:

http://www.linux-speakup.org

They all have Speakup built into them.  That's your best bet, I
think.  

There are a lot of folks on the speakup list who can help you better
than can I.  So, I am CC'ing the list now.  I think it's great you
want to try Linux.    I'm sure someone will write back and help you
out.  

Ann P.

    Kathy> -- "While they were saying among themselves it cannot be
    Kathy> done, it was done."  Helen Keller

-- 
			Ann K. Parsons  
email:  akp@eznet.net 			ICQ Number:  33006854
WEB SITE:  http://home.eznet.net/~akp
"All that is gold does not glitter.  Not all those who wander are lost."  JRRT





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* Re: Now what?
   ` Now what? Ann Parsons
@    ` jude dashiell
     ` jude dashiell
                     ` (3 subsequent siblings)
  4 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: jude dashiell @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup List; +Cc: Kathy Seven Williams

So far as I know no talking kernels exist for gnopix but you may after
sighted assistance in getting it installed be able to install emacspeak or
yasr on it and get it talking.  Slackware 9_0 or redhat 9.0 or even debian
would have been more useful more quickly, but if you're willing to hack
you'll want to keep close touch with that instructor and pass back what
you learn in terms of accessibility.  You may have been given a further
challenge.


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* Re: Now what?
   ` Now what? Ann Parsons
     ` jude dashiell
@    ` jude dashiell
     ` White, Matt
                     ` (2 subsequent siblings)
  4 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: jude dashiell @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup List; +Cc: Kathy Seven Williams

gnopix is a version of Linux and it was being used before 1995 in an
office of a computer repair company that fixed my computer and was in my
apartment complex.  It's rather graphical but may be possible to get
things installed and talking anyway.


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* Re: Now what?
   ` Now what? Ann Parsons
     ` jude dashiell
     ` jude dashiell
@    ` White, Matt
       ` Kirk Reiser
     ` Hugh Esco
     ` Alex Snow
  4 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: White, Matt @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup; +Cc: akp, kseven

I think Kathy is talking about Gnopix which is a fairly new Linux
distribution.  Unfortunately, it is intended to boot into XWindows with
Gnome so it would probably not be a good choice for a beginner.  You would
definitely be better off starting with one of the distributions on the
Speakup site.

Matt

<quote who="Ann Parsons">
> Hi Kathy,
>
>>>>>> "Kathy" == Kathy Seven Williams <kseven@tscnet.com> writes:
>
>     Kathy> OK, I've finished my computer building class, and as my
> Kathy> reward, my instructor gave me Linux in a self-bootable
>     Kathy> CD-ROM version I can use right away. I think it's called
> Kathy> Knorpix or something like that. I've not even triedit
>     Kathy> yet. Where do I go from here? Where and how do I get access
> Kathy> so I can play?
>
>
> Well, Kathy, I've never heard of Norpix.  I have heard of Red Hat,
> Debian, Slackware, but not Norpix.   There are bootable images you can
> download from the speakup site:
>
> http://www.linux-speakup.org
>
> They all have Speakup built into them.  That's your best bet, I
> think.
>
> There are a lot of folks on the speakup list who can help you better
> than can I.  So, I am CC'ing the list now.  I think it's great you want
> to try Linux.    I'm sure someone will write back and help you out.
>
> Ann P.
>
>     Kathy> -- "While they were saying among themselves it cannot be
> Kathy> done, it was done."  Helen Keller
>
> --
> 			Ann K. Parsons
> email:  akp@eznet.net 			ICQ Number:  33006854
> WEB SITE:  http://home.eznet.net/~akp
> "All that is gold does not glitter.  Not all those who wander are lost."
>  JRRT
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup


-- 
Matt B. White
Tel: 508.969.2836






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* Re: Now what?
     ` White, Matt
@      ` Kirk Reiser
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Kirk Reiser @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup; +Cc: akp, kseven

There is a preliminary cd image of a speakup enabled knoppix disk in
incoming if folks want to download it and burn it to cd.  It needs
large 80 minute or better cdr's to fit on.  John Covici has put it
together and there are a few problems but not bad for a first
attempt.  I've used it twice now.

There are a few caveats to know before you use it so if you are
serious about burning an image correspond with John and get the
details.

  Kirk

-- 

Kirk Reiser				The Computer Braille Facility
e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca		University of Western Ontario
phone: (519) 661-3061


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* Re: Now what?
   ` Now what? Ann Parsons
                     ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
     ` White, Matt
@    ` Hugh Esco
     ` Alex Snow
  4 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Hugh Esco @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup List

Knoppix (not Knorpix) is a bootable iso image of a Debian distribution on
a CD.  It will load a linux kernel into RAM and run a plethora of
applications off the CD, without ever touching your hard drive, unless you
specifically mount and use it (read-only or if you are daring read-write).
I do not know whether speakup is built into Knoppix, or emacspeak, or any
other such tool.  But I do know that a Knoppix disk can be customized by
whoever burns the CD to contain just about any software they wish to
include.  Knoppix's strong point, besides its ability to decompress
software on the fly and run it off the CD, seems to be its hardware
recognition tools.  One of my linux mentors swears by using the Knoppix CD
to write his XF86Config files for the X11 server.  Better than any he has
ever hand-hacked, he says.

-- Hugh

On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, Ann Parsons wrote:

> Hi Kathy,
>
> >>>>> "Kathy" == Kathy Seven Williams <kseven@tscnet.com> writes:
>
>     Kathy> OK, I've finished my computer building class, and as my
>     Kathy> reward, my instructor gave me Linux in a self-bootable
>     Kathy> CD-ROM version I can use right away. I think it's called
>     Kathy> Knorpix or something like that. I've not even triedit
>     Kathy> yet. Where do I go from here? Where and how do I get access
>     Kathy> so I can play?
>
>
> Well, Kathy, I've never heard of Norpix.  I have heard of Red Hat,
> Debian, Slackware, but not Norpix.   There are bootable images you can
> download from the speakup site:
>
> http://www.linux-speakup.org
>
> They all have Speakup built into them.  That's your best bet, I
> think.
>
> There are a lot of folks on the speakup list who can help you better
> than can I.  So, I am CC'ing the list now.  I think it's great you
> want to try Linux.    I'm sure someone will write back and help you
> out.
>
> Ann P.
>
>     Kathy> -- "While they were saying among themselves it cannot be
>     Kathy> done, it was done."  Helen Keller
>
> --
> 			Ann K. Parsons
> email:  akp@eznet.net 			ICQ Number:  33006854
> WEB SITE:  http://home.eznet.net/~akp
> "All that is gold does not glitter.  Not all those who wander are lost."  JRRT
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>


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* Re: Now what?
   ` Now what? Ann Parsons
                     ` (3 preceding siblings ...)
     ` Hugh Esco
@    ` Alex Snow
       ` Ryan Mann
  4 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Alex Snow @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup List; +Cc: Kathy Seven Williams

knoppix is one of those distros contained on a bootable cd. it actually
seems quite interesting. I wanna say it's based on debian but am probably
wrong.

--
A message from the system administrator: "I've upped my priority, now up yours!"
On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, Ann Parsons wrote:

> Hi Kathy,
>
> >>>>> "Kathy" == Kathy Seven Williams <kseven@tscnet.com> writes:
>
>     Kathy> OK, I've finished my computer building class, and as my
>     Kathy> reward, my instructor gave me Linux in a self-bootable
>     Kathy> CD-ROM version I can use right away. I think it's called
>     Kathy> Knorpix or something like that. I've not even triedit
>     Kathy> yet. Where do I go from here? Where and how do I get access
>     Kathy> so I can play?
>
>
> Well, Kathy, I've never heard of Norpix.  I have heard of Red Hat,
> Debian, Slackware, but not Norpix.   There are bootable images you can
> download from the speakup site:
>
> http://www.linux-speakup.org
>
> They all have Speakup built into them.  That's your best bet, I
> think.
>
> There are a lot of folks on the speakup list who can help you better
> than can I.  So, I am CC'ing the list now.  I think it's great you
> want to try Linux.    I'm sure someone will write back and help you
> out.
>
> Ann P.
>
>     Kathy> -- "While they were saying among themselves it cannot be
>     Kathy> done, it was done."  Helen Keller
>
> --
> 			Ann K. Parsons
> email:  akp@eznet.net 			ICQ Number:  33006854
> WEB SITE:  http://home.eznet.net/~akp
> "All that is gold does not glitter.  Not all those who wander are lost."  JRRT
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>


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* Re: Now what?
     ` Alex Snow
@      ` Ryan Mann
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Ryan Mann @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup List; +Cc: Kathy Seven Williams

It's based on a mixture of Debian Stable, Unstable, and testing.



On Sat, 14 Jun 2003, Alex Snow wrote:

> knoppix is one of those distros contained on a bootable cd. it actually
> seems quite interesting. I wanna say it's based on debian but am probably
> wrong.
>
> --
> A message from the system administrator: "I've upped my priority, now up yours!"
> On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, Ann Parsons wrote:
>
> > Hi Kathy,
> >
> > >>>>> "Kathy" == Kathy Seven Williams <kseven@tscnet.com> writes:
> >
> >     Kathy> OK, I've finished my computer building class, and as my
> >     Kathy> reward, my instructor gave me Linux in a self-bootable
> >     Kathy> CD-ROM version I can use right away. I think it's called
> >     Kathy> Knorpix or something like that. I've not even triedit
> >     Kathy> yet. Where do I go from here? Where and how do I get access
> >     Kathy> so I can play?
> >
> >
> > Well, Kathy, I've never heard of Norpix.  I have heard of Red Hat,
> > Debian, Slackware, but not Norpix.   There are bootable images you can
> > download from the speakup site:
> >
> > http://www.linux-speakup.org
> >
> > They all have Speakup built into them.  That's your best bet, I
> > think.
> >
> > There are a lot of folks on the speakup list who can help you better
> > than can I.  So, I am CC'ing the list now.  I think it's great you
> > want to try Linux.    I'm sure someone will write back and help you
> > out.
> >
> > Ann P.
> >
> >     Kathy> -- "While they were saying among themselves it cannot be
> >     Kathy> done, it was done."  Helen Keller
> >
> > --
> > 			Ann K. Parsons
> > email:  akp@eznet.net 			ICQ Number:  33006854
> > WEB SITE:  http://home.eznet.net/~akp
> > "All that is gold does not glitter.  Not all those who wander are lost."  JRRT
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>



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* Re: Now what?
   Whitley GS11 Cecil H
@  ` Kirk Reiser
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Kirk Reiser @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

covici@cs.covici.com

-- 

Kirk Reiser				The Computer Braille Facility
e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca		University of Western Ontario
phone: (519) 661-3061


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* RE: Now what?
@  Whitley GS11 Cecil H
   ` Kirk Reiser
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Whitley GS11 Cecil H @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 'speakup@braille.uwo.ca'

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>There is a preliminary cd image of a speakup enabled knoppix disk in
*snip*
What is the email address for John Covici?
Thanks,
Cecil
cwhitley@earthlink.net 

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