* new linux user @ Jason Symes ` Georgina 0 siblings, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread From: Jason Symes @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup I'm considering purchasing a second hard drive to install some version of Linux on, while leaving my Win98SE as my main os. I've never installed a second os on one system, and I've had vary little experience with other os's from Windows. I heard about Speak Out from another list, and they recommended that I contact this list to get some help. I would appreciate any recommendations that any of you can make. Jason Symes ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* RE: new linux user new linux user Jason Symes @ ` Georgina ` Gregory Nowak ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 25+ messages in thread From: Georgina @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi I wondered if you'd like to consider looking at a Linux distribution that will install itself in a folder of your Windows disk. The advantage is that you don't have to bother with adding disks, or partitioning. Its ideal as a beginning. You'll need about 100Mb of disk space for the distribution. The speaking version is called ZipSpeak which is a speaking version of ZipSlack. You'll need one of the supported synthesisers. You can read about the ZipSlack at: www.slackware.com HTH -----Original Message----- From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Jason Symes Sent: 07 December 2001 02:29 To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Subject: new linux user I'm considering purchasing a second hard drive to install some version of Linux on, while leaving my Win98SE as my main os. I've never installed a second os on one system, and I've had vary little experience with other os's from Windows. I heard about Speak Out from another list, and they recommended that I contact this list to get some help. I would appreciate any recommendations that any of you can make. Jason Symes _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: new linux user ` Georgina @ ` Gregory Nowak ` Jason Symes ` Georgina ` new linux user Jason Symes ` Geoff Shang 2 siblings, 2 replies; 25+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup As far as I know, zipslack is still unfortuneately at 7.1, which means he wouldn't get the latest zipslack. Yes, I know he could get zipslack 8.0 and modify it, but I would not expect a new user to know how to modify zipslack into zipspeak. Greg On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 02:41:06PM -0000, Georgina wrote: > Hi > > I wondered if you'd like to consider looking at a Linux distribution that > will install itself in a folder of your Windows disk. The advantage is that > you don't have to bother with adding disks, or partitioning. Its ideal as a > beginning. You'll need about 100Mb of disk space for the distribution. The > speaking version is called ZipSpeak which is a speaking version of ZipSlack. > You'll need one of the supported synthesisers. You can read about the > ZipSlack at: > > www.slackware.com > > HTH > > -----Original Message----- > From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca > [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Jason Symes > Sent: 07 December 2001 02:29 > To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca > Subject: new linux user > > > I'm considering purchasing a second hard drive to install some version of > Linux on, while leaving my Win98SE as my main os. I've never installed a > second os on one system, and I've had vary little experience with other > os's from Windows. I heard about Speak Out from another list, and they > recommended that I contact this list to get some help. > > I would appreciate any recommendations that any of you can make. > > Jason Symes > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: new linux user ` Gregory Nowak @ ` Jason Symes ` Jason Symes ` Georgina 1 sibling, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread From: Jason Symes @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup I'm afraid you're right. My programming skills aren't too flashy, and I've never used any linux before. I suppose I'll have to use the 7.1 version. At 09:41 AM 12/7/01 -0600, you wrote: >As far as I know, zipslack is still unfortuneately at 7.1, >which means he wouldn't get the latest zipslack. >Yes, I know he could get zipslack 8.0 and modify it, but I would >not expect a new user to know how to modify zipslack into zipspeak. >Greg > > >On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 02:41:06PM -0000, Georgina wrote: >> Hi >> >> I wondered if you'd like to consider looking at a Linux distribution that >> will install itself in a folder of your Windows disk. The advantage is that >> you don't have to bother with adding disks, or partitioning. Its ideal as a >> beginning. You'll need about 100Mb of disk space for the distribution. The >> speaking version is called ZipSpeak which is a speaking version of ZipSlack. >> You'll need one of the supported synthesisers. You can read about the >> ZipSlack at: >> >> www.slackware.com >> >> HTH >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca >> [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Jason Symes >> Sent: 07 December 2001 02:29 >> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> Subject: new linux user >> >> >> I'm considering purchasing a second hard drive to install some version of >> Linux on, while leaving my Win98SE as my main os. I've never installed a >> second os on one system, and I've had vary little experience with other >> os's from Windows. I heard about Speak Out from another list, and they >> recommended that I contact this list to get some help. >> >> I would appreciate any recommendations that any of you can make. >> >> Jason Symes >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > Jason Symes ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: new linux user ` Jason Symes @ ` Jason Symes ` Gregory Nowak 0 siblings, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread From: Jason Symes @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Ok. I got on slackware's site and it sounds really great, but there's only one problem. I went to Speakup's ftp site to find zipspeak, and a page informed me that it had been moved to the slackware ftp server. When I followed the address given, I was rudely rebuffed for trying to get a directory that doesn't exist. I tried the zipspeak page that's housed by speakup, but I got a page doesn't exist message. Can anyone help me find zipspeak? Thanks. At 10:46 AM 12/7/01 -0600, you wrote: >I'm afraid you're right. My programming skills aren't too flashy, and I've >never used any linux before. I suppose I'll have to use the 7.1 version. > >At 09:41 AM 12/7/01 -0600, you wrote: >>As far as I know, zipslack is still unfortuneately at 7.1, >>which means he wouldn't get the latest zipslack. >>Yes, I know he could get zipslack 8.0 and modify it, but I would >>not expect a new user to know how to modify zipslack into zipspeak. >>Greg >> >> >>On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 02:41:06PM -0000, Georgina wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> I wondered if you'd like to consider looking at a Linux distribution that >>> will install itself in a folder of your Windows disk. The advantage is >that >>> you don't have to bother with adding disks, or partitioning. Its ideal >as a >>> beginning. You'll need about 100Mb of disk space for the distribution. >The >>> speaking version is called ZipSpeak which is a speaking version of >ZipSlack. >>> You'll need one of the supported synthesisers. You can read about the >>> ZipSlack at: >>> >>> www.slackware.com >>> >>> HTH >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca >>> [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Jason Symes >>> Sent: 07 December 2001 02:29 >>> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>> Subject: new linux user >>> >>> >>> I'm considering purchasing a second hard drive to install some version of >>> Linux on, while leaving my Win98SE as my main os. I've never installed a >>> second os on one system, and I've had vary little experience with other >>> os's from Windows. I heard about Speak Out from another list, and they >>> recommended that I contact this list to get some help. >>> >>> I would appreciate any recommendations that any of you can make. >>> >>> Jason Symes >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Speakup mailing list >>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Speakup mailing list >>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Speakup mailing list >>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >Jason Symes > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > Jason Symes ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: new linux user ` Jason Symes @ ` Gregory Nowak ` Jason Symes 0 siblings, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup The URL to zipspeak.zip 7.1 is: ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-7.1/zipspeak/zipspeak.zip . Hth. Greg On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 11:07:46AM -0600, Jason Symes wrote: > Ok. I got on slackware's site and it sounds really great, but there's only > one problem. I went to Speakup's ftp site to find zipspeak, and a page > informed me that it had been moved to the slackware ftp server. When I > followed the address given, I was rudely rebuffed for trying to get a > directory that doesn't exist. I tried the zipspeak page that's housed by > speakup, but I got a page doesn't exist message. Can anyone help me find > zipspeak? > Thanks. > At 10:46 AM 12/7/01 -0600, you wrote: > >I'm afraid you're right. My programming skills aren't too flashy, and I've > >never used any linux before. I suppose I'll have to use the 7.1 version. > > > >At 09:41 AM 12/7/01 -0600, you wrote: > >>As far as I know, zipslack is still unfortuneately at 7.1, > >>which means he wouldn't get the latest zipslack. > >>Yes, I know he could get zipslack 8.0 and modify it, but I would > >>not expect a new user to know how to modify zipslack into zipspeak. > >>Greg > >> > >> > >>On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 02:41:06PM -0000, Georgina wrote: > >>> Hi > >>> > >>> I wondered if you'd like to consider looking at a Linux distribution that > >>> will install itself in a folder of your Windows disk. The advantage is > >that > >>> you don't have to bother with adding disks, or partitioning. Its ideal > >as a > >>> beginning. You'll need about 100Mb of disk space for the distribution. > >The > >>> speaking version is called ZipSpeak which is a speaking version of > >ZipSlack. > >>> You'll need one of the supported synthesisers. You can read about the > >>> ZipSlack at: > >>> > >>> www.slackware.com > >>> > >>> HTH > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca > >>> [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Jason Symes > >>> Sent: 07 December 2001 02:29 > >>> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >>> Subject: new linux user > >>> > >>> > >>> I'm considering purchasing a second hard drive to install some version of > >>> Linux on, while leaving my Win98SE as my main os. I've never installed a > >>> second os on one system, and I've had vary little experience with other > >>> os's from Windows. I heard about Speak Out from another list, and they > >>> recommended that I contact this list to get some help. > >>> > >>> I would appreciate any recommendations that any of you can make. > >>> > >>> Jason Symes > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Speakup mailing list > >>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Speakup mailing list > >>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Speakup mailing list > >>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >> > >Jason Symes > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > Jason Symes > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: new linux user ` Gregory Nowak @ ` Jason Symes 0 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread From: Jason Symes @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Thanks. That worked much better. At 12:30 PM 12/7/01 -0600, you wrote: >The URL to zipspeak.zip 7.1 is: >ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-7.1/zipspeak/zipspeak.zip >. Hth. >Greg > > >On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 11:07:46AM -0600, Jason Symes wrote: >> Ok. I got on slackware's site and it sounds really great, but there's only >> one problem. I went to Speakup's ftp site to find zipspeak, and a page >> informed me that it had been moved to the slackware ftp server. When I >> followed the address given, I was rudely rebuffed for trying to get a >> directory that doesn't exist. I tried the zipspeak page that's housed by >> speakup, but I got a page doesn't exist message. Can anyone help me find >> zipspeak? >> Thanks. >> At 10:46 AM 12/7/01 -0600, you wrote: >> >I'm afraid you're right. My programming skills aren't too flashy, and I've >> >never used any linux before. I suppose I'll have to use the 7.1 version. >> > >> >At 09:41 AM 12/7/01 -0600, you wrote: >> >>As far as I know, zipslack is still unfortuneately at 7.1, >> >>which means he wouldn't get the latest zipslack. >> >>Yes, I know he could get zipslack 8.0 and modify it, but I would >> >>not expect a new user to know how to modify zipslack into zipspeak. >> >>Greg >> >> >> >> >> >>On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 02:41:06PM -0000, Georgina wrote: >> >>> Hi >> >>> >> >>> I wondered if you'd like to consider looking at a Linux distribution that >> >>> will install itself in a folder of your Windows disk. The advantage is >> >that >> >>> you don't have to bother with adding disks, or partitioning. Its ideal >> >as a >> >>> beginning. You'll need about 100Mb of disk space for the distribution. >> >The >> >>> speaking version is called ZipSpeak which is a speaking version of >> >ZipSlack. >> >>> You'll need one of the supported synthesisers. You can read about the >> >>> ZipSlack at: >> >>> >> >>> www.slackware.com >> >>> >> >>> HTH >> >>> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca >> >>> [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Jason Symes >> >>> Sent: 07 December 2001 02:29 >> >>> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> >>> Subject: new linux user >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> I'm considering purchasing a second hard drive to install some version of >> >>> Linux on, while leaving my Win98SE as my main os. I've never installed a >> >>> second os on one system, and I've had vary little experience with other >> >>> os's from Windows. I heard about Speak Out from another list, and they >> >>> recommended that I contact this list to get some help. >> >>> >> >>> I would appreciate any recommendations that any of you can make. >> >>> >> >>> Jason Symes >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Speakup mailing list >> >>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Speakup mailing list >> >>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >> >>Speakup mailing list >> >>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> >>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >> >> >Jason Symes >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> >Speakup mailing list >> >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > >> Jason Symes >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > Jason Symes ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* RE: new linux user ` Gregory Nowak ` Jason Symes @ ` Georgina ` Gregory Nowak 1 sibling, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread From: Georgina @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi Could you explain what you mean? "As far as I know, zipslack is still unfortunately at 7.1," Is it? "not expect a new user to know how to modify zipslack into zipspeak." You may be right but should we judge? What is necessary to use a speaking version of ZipSlack 8? Gena -----Original Message----- From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Gregory Nowak Sent: 07 December 2001 15:42 To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Subject: Re: new linux user As far as I know, zipslack is still unfortuneately at 7.1, which means he wouldn't get the latest zipslack. Yes, I know he could get zipslack 8.0 and modify it, but I would not expect a new user to know how to modify zipslack into zipspeak. Greg On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 02:41:06PM -0000, Georgina wrote: > Hi > > I wondered if you'd like to consider looking at a Linux distribution that > will install itself in a folder of your Windows disk. The advantage is that > you don't have to bother with adding disks, or partitioning. Its ideal as a > beginning. You'll need about 100Mb of disk space for the distribution. The > speaking version is called ZipSpeak which is a speaking version of ZipSlack. > You'll need one of the supported synthesisers. You can read about the > ZipSlack at: > > www.slackware.com > > HTH > > -----Original Message----- > From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca > [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Jason Symes > Sent: 07 December 2001 02:29 > To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca > Subject: new linux user > > > I'm considering purchasing a second hard drive to install some version of > Linux on, while leaving my Win98SE as my main os. I've never installed a > second os on one system, and I've had vary little experience with other > os's from Windows. I heard about Speak Out from another list, and they > recommended that I contact this list to get some help. > > I would appreciate any recommendations that any of you can make. > > Jason Symes > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: new linux user ` Georgina @ ` Gregory Nowak ` Website Development by Blind People Rich Caloggero 0 siblings, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Read below. Greg On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 10:02:00PM -0000, Georgina wrote: > Hi > > Could you explain what you mean? > > "As far as I know, zipslack is still unfortunately at 7.1," > > Is it? I meant to say zipspeak, not zipslack. Sorry about that. > > "not expect a new user to know how to modify zipslack into zipspeak." > > You may be right but should we judge? What is necessary to use a speaking > version of ZipSlack 8? A kernel with speakup, a speakup keymap, a differently configured lynx.cfg, and probably some other stuff that I'm forgetting about. > > Gena > > -----Original Message----- > From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca > [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Gregory Nowak > Sent: 07 December 2001 15:42 > To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca > Subject: Re: new linux user > > > As far as I know, zipslack is still unfortuneately at 7.1, > which means he wouldn't get the latest zipslack. > Yes, I know he could get zipslack 8.0 and modify it, but I would > not expect a new user to know how to modify zipslack into zipspeak. > Greg > > > On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 02:41:06PM -0000, Georgina wrote: > > Hi > > > > I wondered if you'd like to consider looking at a Linux distribution that > > will install itself in a folder of your Windows disk. The advantage is > that > > you don't have to bother with adding disks, or partitioning. Its ideal as > a > > beginning. You'll need about 100Mb of disk space for the distribution. > The > > speaking version is called ZipSpeak which is a speaking version of > ZipSlack. > > You'll need one of the supported synthesisers. You can read about the > > ZipSlack at: > > > > www.slackware.com > > > > HTH > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca > > [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Jason Symes > > Sent: 07 December 2001 02:29 > > To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > Subject: new linux user > > > > > > I'm considering purchasing a second hard drive to install some version of > > Linux on, while leaving my Win98SE as my main os. I've never installed a > > second os on one system, and I've had vary little experience with other > > os's from Windows. I heard about Speak Out from another list, and they > > recommended that I contact this list to get some help. > > > > I would appreciate any recommendations that any of you can make. > > > > Jason Symes > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Website Development by Blind People ` Gregory Nowak @ ` Rich Caloggero ` Georgina ` Victor Tsaran 0 siblings, 2 replies; 25+ messages in thread From: Rich Caloggero @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup, bashonline Well, I've just learned how to build apache with php and learned php (the language) well enough to be able to develop with it. Now the problem, have any of you blind web developers out there (and I'm sure there are more than a few) managed to appease the sighted masses cries of "make it look good or else". <smile> Ok, so I'm overstating a bit... But really, can anyone share any pointers or experiences with me of how to do this? Does this mean simply choosing the correct fonts and colors for various parts of the site? i have a very basic layout that a sighted collegue designed for me, but then I bring it to another sighted co-worker and he says it looks terrible. I guess for one thing, they need to be very specific about what they don't like and what they want, but this is difficult for nontechnical artist types. I don't know, guess I'm just discouraged. I feel I have the technical knowledge of how to build the site and make it do the right things, but that doesn't seem to be enough. It feels to me like the old problem of, well you hire a blind person to do a job, but he inevitably needs sighted assistance, so then your hiring two people to do the job of one which begs the question of why did you hire that blind person in the first place! Mostly Letting off Steam, Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory Nowak" <gnowak1@uic.edu> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: 07 December, 2001 4:29 PM Subject: Re: new linux user Read below. Greg On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 10:02:00PM -0000, Georgina wrote: > Hi > > Could you explain what you mean? > > "As far as I know, zipslack is still unfortunately at 7.1," > > Is it? I meant to say zipspeak, not zipslack. Sorry about that. > > "not expect a new user to know how to modify zipslack into zipspeak." > > You may be right but should we judge? What is necessary to use a speaking > version of ZipSlack 8? A kernel with speakup, a speakup keymap, a differently configured lynx.cfg, and probably some other stuff that I'm forgetting about. > > Gena > > -----Original Message----- > From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca > [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Gregory Nowak > Sent: 07 December 2001 15:42 > To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca > Subject: Re: new linux user > > > As far as I know, zipslack is still unfortuneately at 7.1, > which means he wouldn't get the latest zipslack. > Yes, I know he could get zipslack 8.0 and modify it, but I would > not expect a new user to know how to modify zipslack into zipspeak. > Greg > > > On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 02:41:06PM -0000, Georgina wrote: > > Hi > > > > I wondered if you'd like to consider looking at a Linux distribution that > > will install itself in a folder of your Windows disk. The advantage is > that > > you don't have to bother with adding disks, or partitioning. Its ideal as > a > > beginning. You'll need about 100Mb of disk space for the distribution. > The > > speaking version is called ZipSpeak which is a speaking version of > ZipSlack. > > You'll need one of the supported synthesisers. You can read about the > > ZipSlack at: > > > > www.slackware.com > > > > HTH > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca > > [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Jason Symes > > Sent: 07 December 2001 02:29 > > To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > Subject: new linux user > > > > > > I'm considering purchasing a second hard drive to install some version of > > Linux on, while leaving my Win98SE as my main os. I've never installed a > > second os on one system, and I've had vary little experience with other > > os's from Windows. I heard about Speak Out from another list, and they > > recommended that I contact this list to get some help. > > > > I would appreciate any recommendations that any of you can make. > > > > Jason Symes > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* RE: Website Development by Blind People ` Website Development by Blind People Rich Caloggero @ ` Georgina ` Victor Tsaran 1 sibling, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread From: Georgina @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi Could you be a little more careful which lists your are sending specific subjects? -----Original Message----- From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Rich Caloggero Sent: 09 December 2001 18:11 To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca; bashonline@yahoogroups.com Subject: Website Development by Blind People Well, I've just learned how to build apache with php and learned php (the language) well enough to be able to develop with it. Now the problem, have any of you blind web developers out there (and I'm sure there are more than a few) managed to appease the sighted masses cries of "make it look good or else". <smile> Ok, so I'm overstating a bit... But really, can anyone share any pointers or experiences with me of how to do this? Does this mean simply choosing the correct fonts and colors for various parts of the site? i have a very basic layout that a sighted collegue designed for me, but then I bring it to another sighted co-worker and he says it looks terrible. I guess for one thing, they need to be very specific about what they don't like and what they want, but this is difficult for nontechnical artist types. I don't know, guess I'm just discouraged. I feel I have the technical knowledge of how to build the site and make it do the right things, but that doesn't seem to be enough. It feels to me like the old problem of, well you hire a blind person to do a job, but he inevitably needs sighted assistance, so then your hiring two people to do the job of one which begs the question of why did you hire that blind person in the first place! Mostly Letting off Steam, Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory Nowak" <gnowak1@uic.edu> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: 07 December, 2001 4:29 PM Subject: Re: new linux user Read below. Greg On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 10:02:00PM -0000, Georgina wrote: > Hi > > Could you explain what you mean? > > "As far as I know, zipslack is still unfortunately at 7.1," > > Is it? I meant to say zipspeak, not zipslack. Sorry about that. > > "not expect a new user to know how to modify zipslack into zipspeak." > > You may be right but should we judge? What is necessary to use a speaking > version of ZipSlack 8? A kernel with speakup, a speakup keymap, a differently configured lynx.cfg, and probably some other stuff that I'm forgetting about. > > Gena > > -----Original Message----- > From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca > [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Gregory Nowak > Sent: 07 December 2001 15:42 > To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca > Subject: Re: new linux user > > > As far as I know, zipslack is still unfortuneately at 7.1, > which means he wouldn't get the latest zipslack. > Yes, I know he could get zipslack 8.0 and modify it, but I would > not expect a new user to know how to modify zipslack into zipspeak. > Greg > > > On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 02:41:06PM -0000, Georgina wrote: > > Hi > > > > I wondered if you'd like to consider looking at a Linux distribution that > > will install itself in a folder of your Windows disk. The advantage is > that > > you don't have to bother with adding disks, or partitioning. Its ideal as > a > > beginning. You'll need about 100Mb of disk space for the distribution. > The > > speaking version is called ZipSpeak which is a speaking version of > ZipSlack. > > You'll need one of the supported synthesisers. You can read about the > > ZipSlack at: > > > > www.slackware.com > > > > HTH > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca > > [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Jason Symes > > Sent: 07 December 2001 02:29 > > To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > Subject: new linux user > > > > > > I'm considering purchasing a second hard drive to install some version of > > Linux on, while leaving my Win98SE as my main os. I've never installed a > > second os on one system, and I've had vary little experience with other > > os's from Windows. I heard about Speak Out from another list, and they > > recommended that I contact this list to get some help. > > > > I would appreciate any recommendations that any of you can make. > > > > Jason Symes > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: Website Development by Blind People ` Website Development by Blind People Rich Caloggero ` Georgina @ ` Victor Tsaran ` David Poehlman 1 sibling, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread From: Victor Tsaran @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi, Rich! It's an ongoing problem. First of all, I suggest you play a little bit with style sheets. This will make sure that you don't become a victim of different browser settings. Second, get an opinion of a professional, if possible. Don't trust everything sighted people may tell you. In many cases they themselves have little understanding of what looks good and what doesn't. Thirdly, visual outlook of your website depends on what you host on it. Of course, an advice from sighted person is necessary, but be careful not to become a victim of tasteless opinions. Best regards, Vic ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Caloggero" <rjc@MIT.EDU> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>; <bashonline@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 7:11 PM Subject: Website Development by Blind People > Well, I've just learned how to build apache with php and learned php (the > language) well enough to be able to develop with it. Now the problem, have > any of you blind web developers out there (and I'm sure there are more than > a few) managed to appease the sighted masses cries of "make it look good or > else". <smile> Ok, so I'm overstating a bit... But really, can anyone share > any pointers or experiences with me of how to do this? Does this mean simply > choosing the correct fonts and colors for various parts of the site? i have > a very basic layout that a sighted collegue designed for me, but then I > bring it to another sighted co-worker and he says it looks terrible. I guess > for one thing, they need to be very specific about what they don't like and > what they want, but this is difficult for nontechnical artist types. I don't > know, guess I'm just discouraged. I feel I have the technical knowledge of > how to build the site and make it do the right things, but that doesn't seem > to be enough. It feels to me like the old problem of, well you hire a blind > person to do a job, but he inevitably needs sighted assistance, so then your > hiring two people to do the job of one which begs the question of why did > you hire that blind person in the first place! > > Mostly Letting off Steam, > Rich > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gregory Nowak" <gnowak1@uic.edu> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: 07 December, 2001 4:29 PM > Subject: Re: new linux user > > > Read below. > Greg > > > On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 10:02:00PM -0000, Georgina wrote: > > Hi > > > > Could you explain what you mean? > > > > "As far as I know, zipslack is still unfortunately at 7.1," > > > > Is it? > I meant to say zipspeak, not zipslack. Sorry about that. > > > > "not expect a new user to know how to modify zipslack into zipspeak." > > > > You may be right but should we judge? What is necessary to use a speaking > > version of ZipSlack 8? > A kernel with speakup, a speakup keymap, a differently configured > lynx.cfg, and probably some other stuff that I'm forgetting about. > > > > > Gena > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca > > [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Gregory Nowak > > Sent: 07 December 2001 15:42 > > To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > Subject: Re: new linux user > > > > > > As far as I know, zipslack is still unfortuneately at 7.1, > > which means he wouldn't get the latest zipslack. > > Yes, I know he could get zipslack 8.0 and modify it, but I would > > not expect a new user to know how to modify zipslack into zipspeak. > > Greg > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 02:41:06PM -0000, Georgina wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > I wondered if you'd like to consider looking at a Linux distribution > that > > > will install itself in a folder of your Windows disk. The advantage is > > that > > > you don't have to bother with adding disks, or partitioning. Its ideal > as > > a > > > beginning. You'll need about 100Mb of disk space for the distribution. > > The > > > speaking version is called ZipSpeak which is a speaking version of > > ZipSlack. > > > You'll need one of the supported synthesisers. You can read about the > > > ZipSlack at: > > > > > > www.slackware.com > > > > > > HTH > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca > > > [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Jason Symes > > > Sent: 07 December 2001 02:29 > > > To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > Subject: new linux user > > > > > > > > > I'm considering purchasing a second hard drive to install some version > of > > > Linux on, while leaving my Win98SE as my main os. I've never installed a > > > second os on one system, and I've had vary little experience with other > > > os's from Windows. I heard about Speak Out from another list, and they > > > recommended that I contact this list to get some help. > > > > > > I would appreciate any recommendations that any of you can make. > > > > > > Jason Symes > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: Website Development by Blind People ` Victor Tsaran @ ` David Poehlman 0 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread From: David Poehlman @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup as with any web site design, you need to know a bit about web design. some tutoring and instruction can take care of this. Also, find pages that people who you trust think look good and do some modeling if you can translate the gibberish that built them. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* RE: new linux user ` Georgina ` Gregory Nowak @ ` Jason Symes ` Georgina ` Geoff Shang 2 siblings, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread From: Jason Symes @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Thanks! I really didn't want to get a new hd if I didn't have to, and I don't want to give up my Windows either! At 02:41 PM 12/7/01 -0000, you wrote: >Hi > >I wondered if you'd like to consider looking at a Linux distribution that >will install itself in a folder of your Windows disk. The advantage is that >you don't have to bother with adding disks, or partitioning. Its ideal as a >beginning. You'll need about 100Mb of disk space for the distribution. The >speaking version is called ZipSpeak which is a speaking version of ZipSlack. >You'll need one of the supported synthesisers. You can read about the >ZipSlack at: > >www.slackware.com > >HTH > >-----Original Message----- >From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca >[mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Jason Symes >Sent: 07 December 2001 02:29 >To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca >Subject: new linux user > > >I'm considering purchasing a second hard drive to install some version of >Linux on, while leaving my Win98SE as my main os. I've never installed a >second os on one system, and I've had vary little experience with other >os's from Windows. I heard about Speak Out from another list, and they >recommended that I contact this list to get some help. > >I would appreciate any recommendations that any of you can make. > >Jason Symes > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > Jason Symes ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* RE: new linux user ` new linux user Jason Symes @ ` Georgina 0 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread From: Georgina @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi Well, most of us find that there several disadvantages to using Linux on a Windows partition, so don't forget the idea of buying another disk. ZipSlack just offers you to see what Linux is all about, you might find that you want the extra disk space anyway. But take one step at a time. -----Original Message----- From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Jason Symes Sent: 07 December 2001 16:16 To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Subject: RE: new linux user Thanks! I really didn't want to get a new hd if I didn't have to, and I don't want to give up my Windows either! At 02:41 PM 12/7/01 -0000, you wrote: >Hi > >I wondered if you'd like to consider looking at a Linux distribution that >will install itself in a folder of your Windows disk. The advantage is that >you don't have to bother with adding disks, or partitioning. Its ideal as a >beginning. You'll need about 100Mb of disk space for the distribution. The >speaking version is called ZipSpeak which is a speaking version of ZipSlack. >You'll need one of the supported synthesisers. You can read about the >ZipSlack at: > >www.slackware.com > >HTH > >-----Original Message----- >From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca >[mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Jason Symes >Sent: 07 December 2001 02:29 >To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca >Subject: new linux user > > >I'm considering purchasing a second hard drive to install some version of >Linux on, while leaving my Win98SE as my main os. I've never installed a >second os on one system, and I've had vary little experience with other >os's from Windows. I heard about Speak Out from another list, and they >recommended that I contact this list to get some help. > >I would appreciate any recommendations that any of you can make. > >Jason Symes > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > Jason Symes _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* RE: new linux user ` Georgina ` Gregory Nowak ` new linux user Jason Symes @ ` Geoff Shang ` Angelo Sonnesso ` Shaun Oliver 2 siblings, 2 replies; 25+ messages in thread From: Geoff Shang @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi: Having just done it, putting linux on a second drive and making a dule boot system is really easy. So if you do decide to go the second HD route and save yourself the fiddle, it's very easy to make the dule boot thing work. Geoff. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: new linux user ` Geoff Shang @ ` Angelo Sonnesso ` Kirk Reiser ` (3 more replies) ` Shaun Oliver 1 sibling, 4 replies; 25+ messages in thread From: Angelo Sonnesso @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup I would like to run a duel boot system on my home machine I have a 10 gb ide hard drive, and a 2.5 gb scsi drive. I am running Windows me on the ide drive and would like to run Linux on the scsi drive. Since windows me doesn't have a way to boot to dos can I still setup a duel boot system. Un fortunately I have to keep the windows operating system to remain compatible with my co-workers. Any suggestions? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoff Shang" <gshang@uq.net.au> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 5:27 PM Subject: RE: new linux user > Hi: > > Having just done it, putting linux on a second drive and making a dule boot > system is really easy. So if you do decide to go the second HD route and > save yourself the fiddle, it's very easy to make the dule boot thing work. > > Geoff. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: new linux user ` Angelo Sonnesso @ ` Kirk Reiser ` Gregory Nowak ` (2 subsequent siblings) 3 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread From: Kirk Reiser @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Sure, just use lilo and set up an 'others' label to start windows. Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: new linux user ` Angelo Sonnesso ` Kirk Reiser @ ` Gregory Nowak ` Thomas Ward ` Shaun Oliver 3 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Yes, you can install lilo to the mbr of your bootable drive to run both operatingsystems. Greg On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 01:18:23AM -0500, Angelo Sonnesso wrote: > I would like to run a duel boot system on my home machine I have a 10 gb ide > hard drive, and a 2.5 gb scsi drive. I am running Windows me on the ide > drive and would like to run Linux on the scsi drive. Since windows me > doesn't have a way to boot to dos can I still setup a duel boot system. > Un fortunately I have to keep the windows operating system to remain > compatible with my co-workers. > Any suggestions? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Geoff Shang" <gshang@uq.net.au> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 5:27 PM > Subject: RE: new linux user > > > > Hi: > > > > Having just done it, putting linux on a second drive and making a dule > boot > > system is really easy. So if you do decide to go the second HD route and > > save yourself the fiddle, it's very easy to make the dule boot thing work. > > > > Geoff. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: new linux user ` Angelo Sonnesso ` Kirk Reiser ` Gregory Nowak @ ` Thomas Ward ` Shaun Oliver 3 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread From: Thomas Ward @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Yup. get a distribution like Red Hat and install a boot loader like Grub, or Lilo, and you can specify at the boot prompt which os you want to load. There are also more expensive boot loaders such as Magic Boot, but something like lilo should work fine. With liloall you have to do when the loader stops is type something like Linux, and you are in Red Hat. Another option might be Windows and it loads Millennium. ----- Original Message ----- From: Angelo Sonnesso <asonnesso@coastalnet.com> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 1:18 AM Subject: Re: new linux user > I would like to run a duel boot system on my home machine I have a 10 gb ide > hard drive, and a 2.5 gb scsi drive. I am running Windows me on the ide > drive and would like to run Linux on the scsi drive. Since windows me > doesn't have a way to boot to dos can I still setup a duel boot system. > Un fortunately I have to keep the windows operating system to remain > compatible with my co-workers. > Any suggestions? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Geoff Shang" <gshang@uq.net.au> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 5:27 PM > Subject: RE: new linux user > > > > Hi: > > > > Having just done it, putting linux on a second drive and making a dule > boot > > system is really easy. So if you do decide to go the second HD route and > > save yourself the fiddle, it's very easy to make the dule boot thing work. > > > > Geoff. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: new linux user ` Angelo Sonnesso ` (2 preceding siblings ...) ` Thomas Ward @ ` Shaun Oliver ` Georgina ` Angelo Sonnesso 3 siblings, 2 replies; 25+ messages in thread From: Shaun Oliver @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup for starters, what distro of linux are you planing on running? and why would you want to boot to dos? is there not some speakup bootdisks for your sdistro? just t thought is all. On Sat, 8 Dec 2001, Angelo Sonnesso wrote: > I would like to run a duel boot system on my home machine I have a 10 gb ide > hard drive, and a 2.5 gb scsi drive. I am running Windows me on the ide > drive and would like to run Linux on the scsi drive. Since windows me > doesn't have a way to boot to dos can I still setup a duel boot system. > Un fortunately I have to keep the windows operating system to remain > compatible with my co-workers. > Any suggestions? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Geoff Shang" <gshang@uq.net.au> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 5:27 PM > Subject: RE: new linux user > > > > Hi: > > > > Having just done it, putting linux on a second drive and making a dule > boot > > system is really easy. So if you do decide to go the second HD route and > > save yourself the fiddle, it's very easy to make the dule boot thing work. > > > > Geoff. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* RE: new linux user ` Shaun Oliver @ ` Georgina ` Angelo Sonnesso 1 sibling, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread From: Georgina @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi I think that the sender wanted to know if they could boot MS ME and Linux, which the answer is yes. You don't need a DOS prompt to load Linux. The most widely used utility is called lilo. Let's take one step at a time. HTH -----Original Message----- From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver Sent: 09 December 2001 10:04 To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Subject: Re: new linux user for starters, what distro of linux are you planing on running? and why would you want to boot to dos? is there not some speakup bootdisks for your sdistro? just t thought is all. On Sat, 8 Dec 2001, Angelo Sonnesso wrote: > I would like to run a duel boot system on my home machine I have a 10 gb ide > hard drive, and a 2.5 gb scsi drive. I am running Windows me on the ide > drive and would like to run Linux on the scsi drive. Since windows me > doesn't have a way to boot to dos can I still setup a duel boot system. > Un fortunately I have to keep the windows operating system to remain > compatible with my co-workers. > Any suggestions? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Geoff Shang" <gshang@uq.net.au> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 5:27 PM > Subject: RE: new linux user > > > > Hi: > > > > Having just done it, putting linux on a second drive and making a dule > boot > > system is really easy. So if you do decide to go the second HD route and > > save yourself the fiddle, it's very easy to make the dule boot thing work. > > > > Geoff. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: new linux user ` Shaun Oliver ` Georgina @ ` Angelo Sonnesso ` Thomas Ward 1 sibling, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread From: Angelo Sonnesso @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup I have a copy of Redhat 7.1, but I was considering slackware version 8. I don't really want to boot to dos if I can help it. > for starters, what distro of linux are you planing on running? > and why would you want to boot to dos? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: new linux user ` Angelo Sonnesso @ ` Thomas Ward 0 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread From: Thomas Ward @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Well, you don't have to boot to dos. Red Hat 7.1 will be fine. Just make sure to configure lilo properly, and it should boot both operating systems just fine. Personally being a newby Red Hat is much more helpful than is Slackware. The configuration tools such as sndconfig, linuxconf, setup, netconf, and so on make working with it so much easier. ----- Original Message ----- From: Angelo Sonnesso <asonnesso@coastalnet.com> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 4:57 AM Subject: Re: new linux user > I have a copy of Redhat 7.1, but I was considering slackware version 8. > I don't really want to boot to dos if I can help it. > > > for starters, what distro of linux are you planing on running? > > and why would you want to boot to dos? > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* RE: new linux user ` Geoff Shang ` Angelo Sonnesso @ ` Shaun Oliver 1 sibling, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread From: Shaun Oliver @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup man. you only just did that Geoff? I did that months ago and ain't had a problem. On Sat, 8 Dec 2001, Geoff Shang wrote: > Hi: > > Having just done it, putting linux on a second drive and making a dule boot > system is really easy. So if you do decide to go the second HD route and > save yourself the fiddle, it's very easy to make the dule boot thing work. > > Geoff. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
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