new linux user

new linux user

[Jason Symes]

I'm considering purchasing a second hard drive to install some version of
Linux on, while leaving my Win98SE as my main os. I've never installed a
second os on one system, and I've had vary little experience with other
os's from Windows. I heard about Speak Out from another list, and they
recommended that I contact this list to get some help.

I would appreciate any recommendations that any of you can make.

Jason Symes

RE: new linux user

[Georgina]

Hi

I wondered if you'd like to consider looking at a Linux distribution that
will install itself in a folder of your Windows disk.  The advantage is that
you don't have to bother with adding disks, or partitioning.  Its ideal as a
beginning.  You'll need about 100Mb of disk space for the distribution.  The
speaking version is called ZipSpeak which is a speaking version of ZipSlack.
You'll need one of the supported synthesisers.  You can read about the
ZipSlack at:

www.slackware.com

HTH

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Jason Symes
Sent: 07 December 2001 02:29
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: new linux user


I'm considering purchasing a second hard drive to install some version of
Linux on, while leaving my Win98SE as my main os. I've never installed a
second os on one system, and I've had vary little experience with other
os's from Windows. I heard about Speak Out from another list, and they
recommended that I contact this list to get some help.

I would appreciate any recommendations that any of you can make.

Jason Symes

_______________________________________________
Speakup mailing list
Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: new linux user

[Gregory Nowak]

As far as I know, zipslack is still unfortuneately at 7.1,
which means he wouldn't get the latest zipslack.
Yes, I know he could get zipslack 8.0 and modify it, but I would
not expect a new user to know how to modify zipslack into zipspeak.
Greg


On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 02:41:06PM -0000, Georgina wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I wondered if you'd like to consider looking at a Linux distribution that
> will install itself in a folder of your Windows disk.  The advantage is that
> you don't have to bother with adding disks, or partitioning.  Its ideal as a
> beginning.  You'll need about 100Mb of disk space for the distribution.  The
> speaking version is called ZipSpeak which is a speaking version of ZipSlack.
> You'll need one of the supported synthesisers.  You can read about the
> ZipSlack at:
> 
> www.slackware.com
> 
> HTH
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
> [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Jason Symes
> Sent: 07 December 2001 02:29
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: new linux user
> 
> 
> I'm considering purchasing a second hard drive to install some version of
> Linux on, while leaving my Win98SE as my main os. I've never installed a
> second os on one system, and I've had vary little experience with other
> os's from Windows. I heard about Speak Out from another list, and they
> recommended that I contact this list to get some help.
> 
> I would appreciate any recommendations that any of you can make.
> 
> Jason Symes
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

RE: new linux user

[Jason Symes]

Thanks! I really didn't want to get a new hd if I didn't have to, and I
don't want to give up my Windows either!

At 02:41 PM 12/7/01 -0000, you wrote:
>Hi
>
>I wondered if you'd like to consider looking at a Linux distribution that
>will install itself in a folder of your Windows disk.  The advantage is that
>you don't have to bother with adding disks, or partitioning.  Its ideal as a
>beginning.  You'll need about 100Mb of disk space for the distribution.  The
>speaking version is called ZipSpeak which is a speaking version of ZipSlack.
>You'll need one of the supported synthesisers.  You can read about the
>ZipSlack at:
>
>www.slackware.com
>
>HTH
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
>[mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Jason Symes
>Sent: 07 December 2001 02:29
>To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>Subject: new linux user
>
>
>I'm considering purchasing a second hard drive to install some version of
>Linux on, while leaving my Win98SE as my main os. I've never installed a
>second os on one system, and I've had vary little experience with other
>os's from Windows. I heard about Speak Out from another list, and they
>recommended that I contact this list to get some help.
>
>I would appreciate any recommendations that any of you can make.
>
>Jason Symes
>
>_______________________________________________
>Speakup mailing list
>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Speakup mailing list
>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
Jason Symes

Re: new linux user

[Jason Symes]

I'm afraid you're right. My programming skills aren't too flashy, and I've
never used any linux before. I suppose I'll have to use the 7.1 version.

At 09:41 AM 12/7/01 -0600, you wrote:
>As far as I know, zipslack is still unfortuneately at 7.1,
>which means he wouldn't get the latest zipslack.
>Yes, I know he could get zipslack 8.0 and modify it, but I would
>not expect a new user to know how to modify zipslack into zipspeak.
>Greg
>
>
>On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 02:41:06PM -0000, Georgina wrote:
>> Hi
>> 
>> I wondered if you'd like to consider looking at a Linux distribution that
>> will install itself in a folder of your Windows disk.  The advantage is
that
>> you don't have to bother with adding disks, or partitioning.  Its ideal
as a
>> beginning.  You'll need about 100Mb of disk space for the distribution.
The
>> speaking version is called ZipSpeak which is a speaking version of
ZipSlack.
>> You'll need one of the supported synthesisers.  You can read about the
>> ZipSlack at:
>> 
>> www.slackware.com
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
>> [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Jason Symes
>> Sent: 07 December 2001 02:29
>> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> Subject: new linux user
>> 
>> 
>> I'm considering purchasing a second hard drive to install some version of
>> Linux on, while leaving my Win98SE as my main os. I've never installed a
>> second os on one system, and I've had vary little experience with other
>> os's from Windows. I heard about Speak Out from another list, and they
>> recommended that I contact this list to get some help.
>> 
>> I would appreciate any recommendations that any of you can make.
>> 
>> Jason Symes
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>_______________________________________________
>Speakup mailing list
>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
Jason Symes

Re: new linux user

[Jason Symes]

Ok. I got on slackware's site and it sounds really great, but there's only
one problem. I went to Speakup's ftp site to find zipspeak, and a page
informed me that it had been moved to the slackware ftp server. When I
followed the address given, I was rudely rebuffed for trying to get a
directory that doesn't exist. I tried the zipspeak page that's housed by
speakup, but I got a page doesn't exist message. Can anyone help me find
zipspeak?
Thanks.
At 10:46 AM 12/7/01 -0600, you wrote:
>I'm afraid you're right. My programming skills aren't too flashy, and I've
>never used any linux before. I suppose I'll have to use the 7.1 version.
>
>At 09:41 AM 12/7/01 -0600, you wrote:
>>As far as I know, zipslack is still unfortuneately at 7.1,
>>which means he wouldn't get the latest zipslack.
>>Yes, I know he could get zipslack 8.0 and modify it, but I would
>>not expect a new user to know how to modify zipslack into zipspeak.
>>Greg
>>
>>
>>On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 02:41:06PM -0000, Georgina wrote:
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>> I wondered if you'd like to consider looking at a Linux distribution that
>>> will install itself in a folder of your Windows disk.  The advantage is
>that
>>> you don't have to bother with adding disks, or partitioning.  Its ideal
>as a
>>> beginning.  You'll need about 100Mb of disk space for the distribution.
>The
>>> speaking version is called ZipSpeak which is a speaking version of
>ZipSlack.
>>> You'll need one of the supported synthesisers.  You can read about the
>>> ZipSlack at:
>>> 
>>> www.slackware.com
>>> 
>>> HTH
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
>>> [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Jason Symes
>>> Sent: 07 December 2001 02:29
>>> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>> Subject: new linux user
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm considering purchasing a second hard drive to install some version of
>>> Linux on, while leaving my Win98SE as my main os. I've never installed a
>>> second os on one system, and I've had vary little experience with other
>>> os's from Windows. I heard about Speak Out from another list, and they
>>> recommended that I contact this list to get some help.
>>> 
>>> I would appreciate any recommendations that any of you can make.
>>> 
>>> Jason Symes
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Speakup mailing list
>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Speakup mailing list
>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>Speakup mailing list
>>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>
>Jason Symes
>
>_______________________________________________
>Speakup mailing list
>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
Jason Symes

Re: new linux user

[Gregory Nowak]

The URL to zipspeak.zip 7.1 is:
ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-7.1/zipspeak/zipspeak.zip
. Hth.
Greg


On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 11:07:46AM -0600, Jason Symes wrote:
> Ok. I got on slackware's site and it sounds really great, but there's only
> one problem. I went to Speakup's ftp site to find zipspeak, and a page
> informed me that it had been moved to the slackware ftp server. When I
> followed the address given, I was rudely rebuffed for trying to get a
> directory that doesn't exist. I tried the zipspeak page that's housed by
> speakup, but I got a page doesn't exist message. Can anyone help me find
> zipspeak?
> Thanks.
> At 10:46 AM 12/7/01 -0600, you wrote:
> >I'm afraid you're right. My programming skills aren't too flashy, and I've
> >never used any linux before. I suppose I'll have to use the 7.1 version.
> >
> >At 09:41 AM 12/7/01 -0600, you wrote:
> >>As far as I know, zipslack is still unfortuneately at 7.1,
> >>which means he wouldn't get the latest zipslack.
> >>Yes, I know he could get zipslack 8.0 and modify it, but I would
> >>not expect a new user to know how to modify zipslack into zipspeak.
> >>Greg
> >>
> >>
> >>On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 02:41:06PM -0000, Georgina wrote:
> >>> Hi
> >>> 
> >>> I wondered if you'd like to consider looking at a Linux distribution that
> >>> will install itself in a folder of your Windows disk.  The advantage is
> >that
> >>> you don't have to bother with adding disks, or partitioning.  Its ideal
> >as a
> >>> beginning.  You'll need about 100Mb of disk space for the distribution.
> >The
> >>> speaking version is called ZipSpeak which is a speaking version of
> >ZipSlack.
> >>> You'll need one of the supported synthesisers.  You can read about the
> >>> ZipSlack at:
> >>> 
> >>> www.slackware.com
> >>> 
> >>> HTH
> >>> 
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
> >>> [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Jason Symes
> >>> Sent: 07 December 2001 02:29
> >>> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> >>> Subject: new linux user
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> I'm considering purchasing a second hard drive to install some version of
> >>> Linux on, while leaving my Win98SE as my main os. I've never installed a
> >>> second os on one system, and I've had vary little experience with other
> >>> os's from Windows. I heard about Speak Out from another list, and they
> >>> recommended that I contact this list to get some help.
> >>> 
> >>> I would appreciate any recommendations that any of you can make.
> >>> 
> >>> Jason Symes
> >>> 
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Speakup mailing list
> >>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Speakup mailing list
> >>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >>
> >>_______________________________________________
> >>Speakup mailing list
> >>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> >>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >>
> >Jason Symes
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >Speakup mailing list
> >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> Jason Symes
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: new linux user

[Jason Symes]

Thanks. That worked much better.
At 12:30 PM 12/7/01 -0600, you wrote:
>The URL to zipspeak.zip 7.1 is:
>ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-7.1/zipspeak/zipspeak.zip
>. Hth.
>Greg
>
>
>On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 11:07:46AM -0600, Jason Symes wrote:
>> Ok. I got on slackware's site and it sounds really great, but there's only
>> one problem. I went to Speakup's ftp site to find zipspeak, and a page
>> informed me that it had been moved to the slackware ftp server. When I
>> followed the address given, I was rudely rebuffed for trying to get a
>> directory that doesn't exist. I tried the zipspeak page that's housed by
>> speakup, but I got a page doesn't exist message. Can anyone help me find
>> zipspeak?
>> Thanks.
>> At 10:46 AM 12/7/01 -0600, you wrote:
>> >I'm afraid you're right. My programming skills aren't too flashy, and I've
>> >never used any linux before. I suppose I'll have to use the 7.1 version.
>> >
>> >At 09:41 AM 12/7/01 -0600, you wrote:
>> >>As far as I know, zipslack is still unfortuneately at 7.1,
>> >>which means he wouldn't get the latest zipslack.
>> >>Yes, I know he could get zipslack 8.0 and modify it, but I would
>> >>not expect a new user to know how to modify zipslack into zipspeak.
>> >>Greg
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 02:41:06PM -0000, Georgina wrote:
>> >>> Hi
>> >>> 
>> >>> I wondered if you'd like to consider looking at a Linux distribution
that
>> >>> will install itself in a folder of your Windows disk.  The advantage is
>> >that
>> >>> you don't have to bother with adding disks, or partitioning.  Its ideal
>> >as a
>> >>> beginning.  You'll need about 100Mb of disk space for the distribution.
>> >The
>> >>> speaking version is called ZipSpeak which is a speaking version of
>> >ZipSlack.
>> >>> You'll need one of the supported synthesisers.  You can read about the
>> >>> ZipSlack at:
>> >>> 
>> >>> www.slackware.com
>> >>> 
>> >>> HTH
>> >>> 
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
>> >>> [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Jason Symes
>> >>> Sent: 07 December 2001 02:29
>> >>> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> >>> Subject: new linux user
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> I'm considering purchasing a second hard drive to install some
version of
>> >>> Linux on, while leaving my Win98SE as my main os. I've never
installed a
>> >>> second os on one system, and I've had vary little experience with other
>> >>> os's from Windows. I heard about Speak Out from another list, and they
>> >>> recommended that I contact this list to get some help.
>> >>> 
>> >>> I would appreciate any recommendations that any of you can make.
>> >>> 
>> >>> Jason Symes
>> >>> 
>> >>> _______________________________________________
>> >>> Speakup mailing list
>> >>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> _______________________________________________
>> >>> Speakup mailing list
>> >>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>> >>
>> >>_______________________________________________
>> >>Speakup mailing list
>> >>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> >>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>> >>
>> >Jason Symes
>> >
>> >_______________________________________________
>> >Speakup mailing list
>> >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>> >
>> Jason Symes
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>_______________________________________________
>Speakup mailing list
>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
Jason Symes

Re: new linux user

[Gregory Nowak]

Read below.
Greg


On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 10:02:00PM -0000, Georgina wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Could you explain what you mean?
> 
> "As far as I know, zipslack is still unfortunately at 7.1,"
> 
> Is it?
I meant to say zipspeak, not zipslack. Sorry about that.
> 
> "not expect a new user to know how to modify zipslack into zipspeak."
> 
> You may be right but should we judge?  What is necessary to use a speaking
> version of ZipSlack 8?
A kernel with speakup, a speakup keymap, a differently configured
lynx.cfg, and probably some other stuff that I'm forgetting about.

> 
> Gena
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
> [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Gregory Nowak
> Sent: 07 December 2001 15:42
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: Re: new linux user
> 
> 
> As far as I know, zipslack is still unfortuneately at 7.1,
> which means he wouldn't get the latest zipslack.
> Yes, I know he could get zipslack 8.0 and modify it, but I would
> not expect a new user to know how to modify zipslack into zipspeak.
> Greg
> 
> 
> On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 02:41:06PM -0000, Georgina wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I wondered if you'd like to consider looking at a Linux distribution that
> > will install itself in a folder of your Windows disk.  The advantage is
> that
> > you don't have to bother with adding disks, or partitioning.  Its ideal as
> a
> > beginning.  You'll need about 100Mb of disk space for the distribution.
> The
> > speaking version is called ZipSpeak which is a speaking version of
> ZipSlack.
> > You'll need one of the supported synthesisers.  You can read about the
> > ZipSlack at:
> >
> > www.slackware.com
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
> > [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Jason Symes
> > Sent: 07 December 2001 02:29
> > To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > Subject: new linux user
> >
> >
> > I'm considering purchasing a second hard drive to install some version of
> > Linux on, while leaving my Win98SE as my main os. I've never installed a
> > second os on one system, and I've had vary little experience with other
> > os's from Windows. I heard about Speak Out from another list, and they
> > recommended that I contact this list to get some help.
> >
> > I would appreciate any recommendations that any of you can make.
> >
> > Jason Symes
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

RE: new linux user

[Georgina]

Hi

Well, most of us find that there several disadvantages to using Linux on a
Windows partition, so don't forget the idea of buying another disk.
ZipSlack just offers you to see what Linux is all about, you might find that
you want the extra disk space anyway.  But take one step at a time.


-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Jason Symes
Sent: 07 December 2001 16:16
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: RE: new linux user


Thanks! I really didn't want to get a new hd if I didn't have to, and I
don't want to give up my Windows either!

At 02:41 PM 12/7/01 -0000, you wrote:
>Hi
>
>I wondered if you'd like to consider looking at a Linux distribution that
>will install itself in a folder of your Windows disk.  The advantage is
that
>you don't have to bother with adding disks, or partitioning.  Its ideal as
a
>beginning.  You'll need about 100Mb of disk space for the distribution.
The
>speaking version is called ZipSpeak which is a speaking version of
ZipSlack.
>You'll need one of the supported synthesisers.  You can read about the
>ZipSlack at:
>
>www.slackware.com
>
>HTH
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
>[mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Jason Symes
>Sent: 07 December 2001 02:29
>To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>Subject: new linux user
>
>
>I'm considering purchasing a second hard drive to install some version of
>Linux on, while leaving my Win98SE as my main os. I've never installed a
>second os on one system, and I've had vary little experience with other
>os's from Windows. I heard about Speak Out from another list, and they
>recommended that I contact this list to get some help.
>
>I would appreciate any recommendations that any of you can make.
>
>Jason Symes
>
>_______________________________________________
>Speakup mailing list
>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Speakup mailing list
>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
Jason Symes

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Speakup mailing list
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RE: new linux user

[Georgina]

Hi

Could you explain what you mean?

"As far as I know, zipslack is still unfortunately at 7.1,"

Is it?

"not expect a new user to know how to modify zipslack into zipspeak."

You may be right but should we judge?  What is necessary to use a speaking
version of ZipSlack 8?

Gena

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Gregory Nowak
Sent: 07 December 2001 15:42
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: new linux user


As far as I know, zipslack is still unfortuneately at 7.1,
which means he wouldn't get the latest zipslack.
Yes, I know he could get zipslack 8.0 and modify it, but I would
not expect a new user to know how to modify zipslack into zipspeak.
Greg


On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 02:41:06PM -0000, Georgina wrote:
> Hi
>
> I wondered if you'd like to consider looking at a Linux distribution that
> will install itself in a folder of your Windows disk.  The advantage is
that
> you don't have to bother with adding disks, or partitioning.  Its ideal as
a
> beginning.  You'll need about 100Mb of disk space for the distribution.
The
> speaking version is called ZipSpeak which is a speaking version of
ZipSlack.
> You'll need one of the supported synthesisers.  You can read about the
> ZipSlack at:
>
> www.slackware.com
>
> HTH
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
> [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Jason Symes
> Sent: 07 December 2001 02:29
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: new linux user
>
>
> I'm considering purchasing a second hard drive to install some version of
> Linux on, while leaving my Win98SE as my main os. I've never installed a
> second os on one system, and I've had vary little experience with other
> os's from Windows. I heard about Speak Out from another list, and they
> recommended that I contact this list to get some help.
>
> I would appreciate any recommendations that any of you can make.
>
> Jason Symes
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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RE: new linux user

[Geoff Shang]

Hi:

Having just done it, putting linux on a second drive and making a dule boot
system is really easy.  So if you do decide to go the second HD route and
save yourself the fiddle, it's very easy to make the dule boot thing work.

Geoff.

Re: new linux user

[Angelo Sonnesso]

I would like to run a duel boot system on my home machine I have a 10 gb ide
hard drive, and a 2.5 gb scsi drive.  I am running Windows me on the ide
drive and would like to run Linux on the scsi drive. Since windows me
doesn't have a way to boot to dos can I still setup a duel boot system.
Un fortunately I have to keep the windows operating system to remain
compatible with my co-workers.
Any suggestions?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Geoff Shang" <gshang@uq.net.au>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 5:27 PM
Subject: RE: new linux user


> Hi:
>
> Having just done it, putting linux on a second drive and making a dule
boot
> system is really easy.  So if you do decide to go the second HD route and
> save yourself the fiddle, it's very easy to make the dule boot thing work.
>
> Geoff.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

RE: new linux user

[Shaun Oliver]

man. you only just did that Geoff?
I did that months ago and ain't had a problem.
On Sat, 8 Dec 2001, Geoff
Shang wrote:

> Hi:
> 
> Having just done it, putting linux on a second drive and making a dule boot
> system is really easy.  So if you do decide to go the second HD route and
> save yourself the fiddle, it's very easy to make the dule boot thing work.
> 
> Geoff.
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

Re: new linux user

[Kirk Reiser]

Sure, just use lilo and set up an 'others' label to start windows.

  Kirk

-- 

Kirk Reiser				The Computer Braille Facility
e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca		University of Western Ontario
phone: (519) 661-3061

Re: new linux user

[Gregory Nowak]

Yes, you can install lilo to the mbr of your
bootable drive to run both operatingsystems.
Greg


On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 01:18:23AM -0500, Angelo Sonnesso wrote:
> I would like to run a duel boot system on my home machine I have a 10 gb ide
> hard drive, and a 2.5 gb scsi drive.  I am running Windows me on the ide
> drive and would like to run Linux on the scsi drive. Since windows me
> doesn't have a way to boot to dos can I still setup a duel boot system.
> Un fortunately I have to keep the windows operating system to remain
> compatible with my co-workers.
> Any suggestions?
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Geoff Shang" <gshang@uq.net.au>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 5:27 PM
> Subject: RE: new linux user
> 
> 
> > Hi:
> >
> > Having just done it, putting linux on a second drive and making a dule
> boot
> > system is really easy.  So if you do decide to go the second HD route and
> > save yourself the fiddle, it's very easy to make the dule boot thing work.
> >
> > Geoff.
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> 
> 
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Re: new linux user

[Thomas Ward]

Yup. get a distribution like Red Hat and install a boot loader like Grub, or
Lilo, and you can specify at the boot prompt which os you want to load.
There are also more expensive boot loaders such as  Magic Boot, but
something like lilo should work fine.
With liloall you have to do when the loader stops is type something like
Linux, and you are in Red Hat. Another option might be Windows and it loads
Millennium.

----- Original Message -----
From: Angelo Sonnesso <asonnesso@coastalnet.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 1:18 AM
Subject: Re: new linux user


> I would like to run a duel boot system on my home machine I have a 10 gb
ide
> hard drive, and a 2.5 gb scsi drive.  I am running Windows me on the ide
> drive and would like to run Linux on the scsi drive. Since windows me
> doesn't have a way to boot to dos can I still setup a duel boot system.
> Un fortunately I have to keep the windows operating system to remain
> compatible with my co-workers.
> Any suggestions?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Geoff Shang" <gshang@uq.net.au>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 5:27 PM
> Subject: RE: new linux user
>
>
> > Hi:
> >
> > Having just done it, putting linux on a second drive and making a dule
> boot
> > system is really easy.  So if you do decide to go the second HD route
and
> > save yourself the fiddle, it's very easy to make the dule boot thing
work.
> >
> > Geoff.
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
>
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: new linux user

[Shaun Oliver]

for starters, what distro of linux are you planing on running?
and why would you want to boot to dos?
is there not some speakup bootdisks for your sdistro?
just t thought is all.
On Sat, 8
Dec 2001, Angelo Sonnesso wrote:

> I would like to run a duel boot system on my home machine I have a 10 gb ide
> hard drive, and a 2.5 gb scsi drive.  I am running Windows me on the ide
> drive and would like to run Linux on the scsi drive. Since windows me
> doesn't have a way to boot to dos can I still setup a duel boot system.
> Un fortunately I have to keep the windows operating system to remain
> compatible with my co-workers.
> Any suggestions?
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Geoff Shang" <gshang@uq.net.au>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 5:27 PM
> Subject: RE: new linux user
> 
> 
> > Hi:
> >
> > Having just done it, putting linux on a second drive and making a dule
> boot
> > system is really easy.  So if you do decide to go the second HD route and
> > save yourself the fiddle, it's very easy to make the dule boot thing work.
> >
> > Geoff.
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

RE: new linux user

[Georgina]

Hi

I think that the sender wanted to know if they could boot MS ME and Linux,
which the answer is yes.  You don't need a DOS prompt to load Linux.  The
most widely used utility is called lilo.

Let's take one step at a time.

HTH

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver
Sent: 09 December 2001 10:04
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: new linux user


for starters, what distro of linux are you planing on running?
and why would you want to boot to dos?
is there not some speakup bootdisks for your sdistro?
just t thought is all.
On Sat, 8
Dec 2001, Angelo Sonnesso wrote:

> I would like to run a duel boot system on my home machine I have a 10 gb
ide
> hard drive, and a 2.5 gb scsi drive.  I am running Windows me on the ide
> drive and would like to run Linux on the scsi drive. Since windows me
> doesn't have a way to boot to dos can I still setup a duel boot system.
> Un fortunately I have to keep the windows operating system to remain
> compatible with my co-workers.
> Any suggestions?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Geoff Shang" <gshang@uq.net.au>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 5:27 PM
> Subject: RE: new linux user
>
>
> > Hi:
> >
> > Having just done it, putting linux on a second drive and making a dule
> boot
> > system is really easy.  So if you do decide to go the second HD route
and
> > save yourself the fiddle, it's very easy to make the dule boot thing
work.
> >
> > Geoff.
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>


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Website Development by Blind People

[Rich Caloggero]

Well, I've just learned how to build apache with php and learned php (the
language) well enough to be able to develop with it. Now the problem, have
any of you blind web developers out there (and I'm sure there are more than
a few) managed to appease the sighted masses cries of "make it look good or
else". <smile> Ok, so I'm overstating a bit... But really, can anyone share
any pointers or experiences with me of how to do this? Does this mean simply
choosing the correct fonts and colors for various parts of the site? i have
a very basic layout that a sighted collegue designed for me, but then I
bring it to another sighted co-worker and he says it looks terrible. I guess
for one thing, they need to be very specific about what they don't like and
what they want, but this is difficult for nontechnical artist types. I don't
know, guess I'm just discouraged. I feel I have the technical knowledge of
how to build the site and make it do the right things, but that doesn't seem
to be enough. It feels to me like the old problem of, well you hire a blind
person to do a job, but he inevitably needs sighted assistance, so then your
hiring two people to do the job of one which begs the question of why did
you hire that blind person in the first place!

                    Mostly Letting off Steam,
                    Rich


----- Original Message -----
From: "Gregory Nowak" <gnowak1@uic.edu>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: 07 December, 2001 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: new linux user


Read below.
Greg


On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 10:02:00PM -0000, Georgina wrote:
> Hi
>
> Could you explain what you mean?
>
> "As far as I know, zipslack is still unfortunately at 7.1,"
>
> Is it?
I meant to say zipspeak, not zipslack. Sorry about that.
>
> "not expect a new user to know how to modify zipslack into zipspeak."
>
> You may be right but should we judge?  What is necessary to use a speaking
> version of ZipSlack 8?
A kernel with speakup, a speakup keymap, a differently configured
lynx.cfg, and probably some other stuff that I'm forgetting about.

>
> Gena
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
> [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Gregory Nowak
> Sent: 07 December 2001 15:42
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: Re: new linux user
>
>
> As far as I know, zipslack is still unfortuneately at 7.1,
> which means he wouldn't get the latest zipslack.
> Yes, I know he could get zipslack 8.0 and modify it, but I would
> not expect a new user to know how to modify zipslack into zipspeak.
> Greg
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 02:41:06PM -0000, Georgina wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I wondered if you'd like to consider looking at a Linux distribution
that
> > will install itself in a folder of your Windows disk.  The advantage is
> that
> > you don't have to bother with adding disks, or partitioning.  Its ideal
as
> a
> > beginning.  You'll need about 100Mb of disk space for the distribution.
> The
> > speaking version is called ZipSpeak which is a speaking version of
> ZipSlack.
> > You'll need one of the supported synthesisers.  You can read about the
> > ZipSlack at:
> >
> > www.slackware.com
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
> > [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Jason Symes
> > Sent: 07 December 2001 02:29
> > To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > Subject: new linux user
> >
> >
> > I'm considering purchasing a second hard drive to install some version
of
> > Linux on, while leaving my Win98SE as my main os. I've never installed a
> > second os on one system, and I've had vary little experience with other
> > os's from Windows. I heard about Speak Out from another list, and they
> > recommended that I contact this list to get some help.
> >
> > I would appreciate any recommendations that any of you can make.
> >
> > Jason Symes
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

RE: Website Development by Blind People

[Georgina]

Hi

Could you be a little more careful which lists your are sending specific
subjects?


-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Rich Caloggero
Sent: 09 December 2001 18:11
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca; bashonline@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Website Development by Blind People


Well, I've just learned how to build apache with php and learned php (the
language) well enough to be able to develop with it. Now the problem, have
any of you blind web developers out there (and I'm sure there are more than
a few) managed to appease the sighted masses cries of "make it look good or
else". <smile> Ok, so I'm overstating a bit... But really, can anyone share
any pointers or experiences with me of how to do this? Does this mean simply
choosing the correct fonts and colors for various parts of the site? i have
a very basic layout that a sighted collegue designed for me, but then I
bring it to another sighted co-worker and he says it looks terrible. I guess
for one thing, they need to be very specific about what they don't like and
what they want, but this is difficult for nontechnical artist types. I don't
know, guess I'm just discouraged. I feel I have the technical knowledge of
how to build the site and make it do the right things, but that doesn't seem
to be enough. It feels to me like the old problem of, well you hire a blind
person to do a job, but he inevitably needs sighted assistance, so then your
hiring two people to do the job of one which begs the question of why did
you hire that blind person in the first place!

                    Mostly Letting off Steam,
                    Rich


----- Original Message -----
From: "Gregory Nowak" <gnowak1@uic.edu>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: 07 December, 2001 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: new linux user


Read below.
Greg


On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 10:02:00PM -0000, Georgina wrote:
> Hi
>
> Could you explain what you mean?
>
> "As far as I know, zipslack is still unfortunately at 7.1,"
>
> Is it?
I meant to say zipspeak, not zipslack. Sorry about that.
>
> "not expect a new user to know how to modify zipslack into zipspeak."
>
> You may be right but should we judge?  What is necessary to use a speaking
> version of ZipSlack 8?
A kernel with speakup, a speakup keymap, a differently configured
lynx.cfg, and probably some other stuff that I'm forgetting about.

>
> Gena
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
> [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Gregory Nowak
> Sent: 07 December 2001 15:42
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: Re: new linux user
>
>
> As far as I know, zipslack is still unfortuneately at 7.1,
> which means he wouldn't get the latest zipslack.
> Yes, I know he could get zipslack 8.0 and modify it, but I would
> not expect a new user to know how to modify zipslack into zipspeak.
> Greg
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 02:41:06PM -0000, Georgina wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I wondered if you'd like to consider looking at a Linux distribution
that
> > will install itself in a folder of your Windows disk.  The advantage is
> that
> > you don't have to bother with adding disks, or partitioning.  Its ideal
as
> a
> > beginning.  You'll need about 100Mb of disk space for the distribution.
> The
> > speaking version is called ZipSpeak which is a speaking version of
> ZipSlack.
> > You'll need one of the supported synthesisers.  You can read about the
> > ZipSlack at:
> >
> > www.slackware.com
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
> > [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Jason Symes
> > Sent: 07 December 2001 02:29
> > To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > Subject: new linux user
> >
> >
> > I'm considering purchasing a second hard drive to install some version
of
> > Linux on, while leaving my Win98SE as my main os. I've never installed a
> > second os on one system, and I've had vary little experience with other
> > os's from Windows. I heard about Speak Out from another list, and they
> > recommended that I contact this list to get some help.
> >
> > I would appreciate any recommendations that any of you can make.
> >
> > Jason Symes
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup




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Re: new linux user

[Angelo Sonnesso]

I have a copy of Redhat 7.1, but I was considering slackware version 8.
I don't really want to boot to dos if I can help it.

> for starters, what distro of linux are you planing on running?
> and why would you want to boot to dos?

Re: Website Development by Blind People

[Victor Tsaran]

Hi, Rich!
It's an ongoing problem. First of all, I suggest you play a little bit with
style sheets. This will make sure that you don't become a victim of
different browser settings. Second, get an opinion of a professional, if
possible. Don't trust everything sighted people may tell you. In many cases
they themselves have little understanding of what looks good and what
doesn't. Thirdly, visual outlook of your website depends on what you host on
it. Of course, an advice from sighted person is necessary, but be careful
not to become a victim of tasteless opinions.
Best regards,
Vic

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rich Caloggero" <rjc@MIT.EDU>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>; <bashonline@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 7:11 PM
Subject: Website Development by Blind People


> Well, I've just learned how to build apache with php and learned php (the
> language) well enough to be able to develop with it. Now the problem, have
> any of you blind web developers out there (and I'm sure there are more
than
> a few) managed to appease the sighted masses cries of "make it look good
or
> else". <smile> Ok, so I'm overstating a bit... But really, can anyone
share
> any pointers or experiences with me of how to do this? Does this mean
simply
> choosing the correct fonts and colors for various parts of the site? i
have
> a very basic layout that a sighted collegue designed for me, but then I
> bring it to another sighted co-worker and he says it looks terrible. I
guess
> for one thing, they need to be very specific about what they don't like
and
> what they want, but this is difficult for nontechnical artist types. I
don't
> know, guess I'm just discouraged. I feel I have the technical knowledge of
> how to build the site and make it do the right things, but that doesn't
seem
> to be enough. It feels to me like the old problem of, well you hire a
blind
> person to do a job, but he inevitably needs sighted assistance, so then
your
> hiring two people to do the job of one which begs the question of why did
> you hire that blind person in the first place!
>
>                     Mostly Letting off Steam,
>                     Rich
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gregory Nowak" <gnowak1@uic.edu>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: 07 December, 2001 4:29 PM
> Subject: Re: new linux user
>
>
> Read below.
> Greg
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 10:02:00PM -0000, Georgina wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > Could you explain what you mean?
> >
> > "As far as I know, zipslack is still unfortunately at 7.1,"
> >
> > Is it?
> I meant to say zipspeak, not zipslack. Sorry about that.
> >
> > "not expect a new user to know how to modify zipslack into zipspeak."
> >
> > You may be right but should we judge?  What is necessary to use a
speaking
> > version of ZipSlack 8?
> A kernel with speakup, a speakup keymap, a differently configured
> lynx.cfg, and probably some other stuff that I'm forgetting about.
>
> >
> > Gena
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
> > [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Gregory Nowak
> > Sent: 07 December 2001 15:42
> > To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > Subject: Re: new linux user
> >
> >
> > As far as I know, zipslack is still unfortuneately at 7.1,
> > which means he wouldn't get the latest zipslack.
> > Yes, I know he could get zipslack 8.0 and modify it, but I would
> > not expect a new user to know how to modify zipslack into zipspeak.
> > Greg
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 02:41:06PM -0000, Georgina wrote:
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I wondered if you'd like to consider looking at a Linux distribution
> that
> > > will install itself in a folder of your Windows disk.  The advantage
is
> > that
> > > you don't have to bother with adding disks, or partitioning.  Its
ideal
> as
> > a
> > > beginning.  You'll need about 100Mb of disk space for the
distribution.
> > The
> > > speaking version is called ZipSpeak which is a speaking version of
> > ZipSlack.
> > > You'll need one of the supported synthesisers.  You can read about the
> > > ZipSlack at:
> > >
> > > www.slackware.com
> > >
> > > HTH
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
> > > [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Jason Symes
> > > Sent: 07 December 2001 02:29
> > > To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > Subject: new linux user
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm considering purchasing a second hard drive to install some version
> of
> > > Linux on, while leaving my Win98SE as my main os. I've never installed
a
> > > second os on one system, and I've had vary little experience with
other
> > > os's from Windows. I heard about Speak Out from another list, and they
> > > recommended that I contact this list to get some help.
> > >
> > > I would appreciate any recommendations that any of you can make.
> > >
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Re: Website Development by Blind People

[David Poehlman]

as with any web site design, you need to know a bit about web design.
some tutoring and instruction can take care of this.  Also, find pages
that people who you trust think look good and do some modeling if you
can translate the gibberish that built them.

Re: new linux user

[Thomas Ward]

Well, you don't have to boot to dos. Red Hat 7.1 will be fine. Just make
sure to configure lilo properly, and it should boot both operating systems
just fine.
Personally being a newby Red Hat is much more helpful than is Slackware. The
configuration tools such as sndconfig, linuxconf, setup, netconf, and so on
make working with it so much easier.

----- Original Message -----
From: Angelo Sonnesso <asonnesso@coastalnet.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 4:57 AM
Subject: Re: new linux user


> I have a copy of Redhat 7.1, but I was considering slackware version 8.
> I don't really want to boot to dos if I can help it.
>
> > for starters, what distro of linux are you planing on running?
> > and why would you want to boot to dos?
>
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