* arch installation @ Alonzo Cuellar ` mattias 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Alonzo Cuellar @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hello, this message is mainly for chris or for those who have experience installing Arch. When will the next talking arch be released? You've released in July, but I don't see it booting with EFI support. When I do modprobe efivars and look for efivars in /sys/firmware I do not see it loaded. so I'm thinking the release you made in July doesn't support efi. I could be wrong though. Also how does one run the new installation? Alonzo ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: arch installation arch installation Alonzo Cuellar @ ` mattias ` Alonzo Cuellar 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: mattias @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. efi are for mac only Alonzo Cuellar skrev 2012-10-15 22:16: > Hello, > > this message is mainly for chris or for those who have experience installing Arch. When will the next talking arch be released? You've released in July, but I don't see it booting with EFI support. > When I do > modprobe efivars > and look for efivars in > /sys/firmware > I do not see it loaded. > so I'm thinking the release you made in July doesn't support efi. I could be wrong though. > Also how does one run the new installation? > > Alonzo > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: arch installation ` mattias @ ` Alonzo Cuellar ` mattias 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Alonzo Cuellar @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. No, My new laptop has the option to boot with UEFI. It looks like it makes everything easier as far as booting is concerned. You can boot with out a boot loader using efistub if i understand correctly. I've not installed arch in ages since I had it on my older laptop. It looks like the installation has changed a bit. It just says root log in and it auto logs the user as root. I'm not sure how to launch the installation procedure since you no longer do /arch/setup. Alonzo On Oct 15, 2012, at 3:19 PM, mattias <mj@mjw.se> wrote: > efi are for mac only > Alonzo Cuellar skrev 2012-10-15 22:16: >> Hello, >> >> this message is mainly for chris or for those who have experience installing Arch. When will the next talking arch be released? You've released in July, but I don't see it booting with EFI support. >> When I do >> modprobe efivars >> and look for efivars in >> /sys/firmware >> I do not see it loaded. >> so I'm thinking the release you made in July doesn't support efi. I could be wrong though. >> Also how does one run the new installation? >> >> Alonzo >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: arch installation ` Alonzo Cuellar @ ` mattias ` Alonzo Cuellar ` Kyle 0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: mattias @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. and you have tryed cd /arch ,/setup Alonzo Cuellar skrev 2012-10-15 22:29: > No, > My new laptop has the option to boot with UEFI. It looks like it makes everything easier as far as booting is concerned. You can boot with out a boot loader using efistub if i understand correctly. I've not installed arch in ages since I had it on my older laptop. It looks like the installation has changed a bit. It just says root log in and it auto logs the user as root. I'm not sure how to launch the installation procedure since you no longer do /arch/setup. > > Alonzo > > > On Oct 15, 2012, at 3:19 PM, mattias <mj@mjw.se> wrote: > >> efi are for mac only >> Alonzo Cuellar skrev 2012-10-15 22:16: >>> Hello, >>> >>> this message is mainly for chris or for those who have experience installing Arch. When will the next talking arch be released? You've released in July, but I don't see it booting with EFI support. >>> When I do >>> modprobe efivars >>> and look for efivars in >>> /sys/firmware >>> I do not see it loaded. >>> so I'm thinking the release you made in July doesn't support efi. I could be wrong though. >>> Also how does one run the new installation? >>> >>> Alonzo >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Speakup mailing list >>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: arch installation ` mattias @ ` Alonzo Cuellar ` mattias ` Kyle 1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Alonzo Cuellar @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Yep sure have. On Oct 15, 2012, at 3:31 PM, mattias <mj@mjw.se> wrote: > and you have tryed > cd /arch > ,/setup > Alonzo Cuellar skrev 2012-10-15 22:29: >> No, >> My new laptop has the option to boot with UEFI. It looks like it makes everything easier as far as booting is concerned. You can boot with out a boot loader using efistub if i understand correctly. I've not installed arch in ages since I had it on my older laptop. It looks like the installation has changed a bit. It just says root log in and it auto logs the user as root. I'm not sure how to launch the installation procedure since you no longer do /arch/setup. >> >> Alonzo >> >> >> On Oct 15, 2012, at 3:19 PM, mattias <mj@mjw.se> wrote: >> >>> efi are for mac only >>> Alonzo Cuellar skrev 2012-10-15 22:16: >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> this message is mainly for chris or for those who have experience installing Arch. When will the next talking arch be released? You've released in July, but I don't see it booting with EFI support. >>>> When I do >>>> modprobe efivars >>>> and look for efivars in >>>> /sys/firmware >>>> I do not see it loaded. >>>> so I'm thinking the release you made in July doesn't support efi. I could be wrong though. >>>> Also how does one run the new installation? >>>> >>>> Alonzo >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Speakup mailing list >>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Speakup mailing list >>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: arch installation ` Alonzo Cuellar @ ` mattias 0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: mattias @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. ok... Alonzo Cuellar skrev 2012-10-15 22:32: > Yep sure have. > On Oct 15, 2012, at 3:31 PM, mattias <mj@mjw.se> wrote: > >> and you have tryed >> cd /arch >> ,/setup >> Alonzo Cuellar skrev 2012-10-15 22:29: >>> No, >>> My new laptop has the option to boot with UEFI. It looks like it makes everything easier as far as booting is concerned. You can boot with out a boot loader using efistub if i understand correctly. I've not installed arch in ages since I had it on my older laptop. It looks like the installation has changed a bit. It just says root log in and it auto logs the user as root. I'm not sure how to launch the installation procedure since you no longer do /arch/setup. >>> >>> Alonzo >>> >>> >>> On Oct 15, 2012, at 3:19 PM, mattias <mj@mjw.se> wrote: >>> >>>> efi are for mac only >>>> Alonzo Cuellar skrev 2012-10-15 22:16: >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> this message is mainly for chris or for those who have experience installing Arch. When will the next talking arch be released? You've released in July, but I don't see it booting with EFI support. >>>>> When I do >>>>> modprobe efivars >>>>> and look for efivars in >>>>> /sys/firmware >>>>> I do not see it loaded. >>>>> so I'm thinking the release you made in July doesn't support efi. I could be wrong though. >>>>> Also how does one run the new installation? >>>>> >>>>> Alonzo >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Speakup mailing list >>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Speakup mailing list >>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Speakup mailing list >>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: arch installation ` mattias ` Alonzo Cuellar @ ` Kyle ` mattias 1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Kyle @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. The newest Arch installers don't have /arch/setup. They use install scripts to install the base system. Have a look at https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Installation_Guide and https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners%27_Guide as well as the Arch Linux for the Blind setup instructions at https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Linux_for_the_blind to become familiar with how the new install system and Talking Arch works and to get you on your way to a successful Arch installation. I haven't worked with EFI, but there should be some instructions linked in the wiki articles to help you use it effectively. Hope this helps. ~Kyle ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: arch installation ` Kyle @ ` mattias ` Kyle 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: mattias @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. so /arch/setup are replaced by packstrap correct? Kyle skrev 2012-10-16 00:56: > The newest Arch installers don't have /arch/setup. They use install > scripts to install the base system. Have a look at > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Installation_Guide > and > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners%27_Guide > as well as the Arch Linux for the Blind setup instructions at > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Linux_for_the_blind > to become familiar with how the new install system and Talking Arch > works and to get you on your way to a successful Arch installation. I > haven't worked with EFI, but there should be some instructions linked > in the wiki articles to help you use it effectively. Hope this helps. > ~Kyle > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: arch installation ` mattias @ ` Kyle ` Buddy Brannan 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Kyle @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. According to mattias: # so /arch/setup are replaced by packstrap correct? Mostly correct. /arch/setup is replaced by arch-install-scripts, which include pacstrap, genfstab and arch-chroot. More info about how to use the Arch install scripts to bootstrap an Arch system, either from the install media or from an existing system is available from the installation guide at https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Installation_guide ~Kyle ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: arch installation ` Kyle @ ` Buddy Brannan ` Kyle 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Buddy Brannan @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Howdy, OK, I'm diving back in and thought I'd play with Archlinux. Did Slackware years and years ago, am familiar with Debian (but doesn't have software speakup on the install CD, I don't think), and, yeah. I needed another challenge. So I have this Samsung netbook. Just for simplicity, I set up sda2 as Linux file system and sda3 as swap. sda1 is the Samsung recovery partition, which has Windows XP image on it, and I figured I'd better keep that for just in case. So never mind it. So I put the talking arch on a 4gb USB drive. It boots. It's fantastic. I followed the directions, all a piece of cake, more or less. I got a system installed. I stuck a line in stab for the swap partition because there didn't seem to be such a line in it. I created an rc.conf because there wasn't one, and just had the line for MODULES=(speakup speakup_soft) DAEMONS=(alsa espeakup) Rebooting, the system appears to bootto a login: prompt, but no speech. I'm fairly sure I didn't miss a step. Iwent through it twice. Yes, I saved the alas state. Yes, I did the syslinux boot thing. There is an rc.d but there was no rc.conf or rc.local or any other rc.* files. Possibly no network connectivity, but no way to be certain. Any guidance would be appreciated. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Oct 16, 2012, at 6:48 AM, Kyle <kyle4jesus@gmail.com> wrote: > According to mattias: > # so /arch/setup are replaced by packstrap correct? > > Mostly correct. /arch/setup is replaced by arch-install-scripts, which include pacstrap, genfstab and arch-chroot. More info about how to use the Arch install scripts to bootstrap an Arch system, either from the install media or from an existing system is available from the installation guide at > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Installation_guide > ~Kyle > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: arch installation ` Buddy Brannan @ ` Kyle 0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Kyle @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1022 bytes --] First of all, you will need to create /etc/modules-load.d/speakup.conf containing the following lines: speakup speakup_soft Once you have done this, or if you did it already, you need the attached file. I think it's not yet in the latest version of espeakup. Save the attached file as /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/espeakup.service on your Arch installation. Then do sudo systemctl start espeakup sudo systemctl enable espeakup.service Speakup will start talking as soon as you enter the first command, and will begin speaking automatically at boot time on the next reboot after typing the second command. I hope the new systemd unit makes it into the released version soon. Note: a file similar to my attachment is now in the version of espeakup in community-testing, so enabling that repo for now to pull in the latest espeakup will also give you a talking system, although you will still need to be sure the service is enabled. sudo systemctl enable espeakup.service Hope this helps. ~Kyle [-- Attachment #2: espeakup.service --] [-- Type: text/plain, Size: 237 bytes --] [Unit] Description=Software speech output for Speakup using eSpeak [Service] Type=forking PIDFile=/var/run/espeakup.pid ExecStart=/usr/bin/espeakup ExecReload=/bin/kill -HUP $MAINPID Restart=always [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
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