* lenny net installer @ Keith Barrett ` Samuel Thibault 0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Keith Barrett @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I have downloaded the net installer beta 2 for lenny. However, I cannot get speakup to come up talking. I have done the following booted from cd when cd spins down hit tab and down arrow then entered speakup.synth=apollo Got my daughter to look at what was happening and there was an error saying unrecognised boot parameter. So, do I have the wrong iso or am I missing something? Many thanks Keith ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: lenny net installer lenny net installer Keith Barrett @ ` Samuel Thibault ` Keith Barrett 0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Samuel Thibault @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Keith Barrett, le Sat 15 Nov 2008 21:26:27 -0000, a écrit : > when cd spins down hit tab and down arrow You need the converse: down arrow first (to select the graphical installation) then tab. > then entered speakup.synth=apollo Samuel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: lenny net installer ` Samuel Thibault @ ` Keith Barrett ` Samuel Thibault ` Cheryl Homiak 0 siblings, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Keith Barrett @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Thanks for this but still no luck. Got daughter to confirm that graphical is selected but still get an "unknown boot option" message. Samuel Thibault wrote: > Keith Barrett, le Sat 15 Nov 2008 21:26:27 -0000, a écrit : >> when cd spins down hit tab and down arrow > > You need the converse: down arrow first (to select the graphical > installation) then tab. > >> then entered speakup.synth=apollo > > Samuel > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > __________ NOD32 3615 (20081115) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: lenny net installer ` Keith Barrett @ ` Samuel Thibault ` Chuck Hallenbeck ` (2 more replies) ` Cheryl Homiak 1 sibling, 3 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Samuel Thibault @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Keith Barrett, le Sat 15 Nov 2008 23:21:23 +0000, a écrit : > Got daughter to confirm that graphical is selected but still get an > "unknown boot option" message. Well, actually that message is normal: the kernel just says that it didn't use it. Oh, wait a minute: didn't you say that you use the beta2? I can't remember when that was release but I bet speakup wasn't included at the time. Release Candidate 1 should have it, however. Samuel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: lenny net installer ` Samuel Thibault @ ` Chuck Hallenbeck ` Buddy Brannan ` Steve Holmes ` Keith Barrett 2 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Chuck Hallenbeck @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:29:08AM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Oh, wait a minute: didn't you say that you use the beta2? I can't > remember when that was release but I bet speakup wasn't included at the > time. Release Candidate 1 should have it, however. > It does. I just used it today and it works fine. Chuck -- The Moon is Waning Gibbous (89% of Full) My web site: http://hallenbeck.ftml.net -------- When all other means of communication fail, try words. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: lenny net installer ` Chuck Hallenbeck @ ` Buddy Brannan ` Chuck Hallenbeck 0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Buddy Brannan @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Is this a standard Debian disc, or do I have to get it somewhere else? I find myself in need of a fresh Linux install.... On Nov 15, 2008, at 6:35 PM, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote: > On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:29:08AM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: >> >> Oh, wait a minute: didn't you say that you use the beta2? I can't >> remember when that was release but I bet speakup wasn't included at >> the >> time. Release Candidate 1 should have it, however. >> > > It does. I just used it today and it works fine. > > Chuck > > > > -- > The Moon is Waning Gibbous (89% of Full) > > My web site: http://hallenbeck.ftml.net > -------- > When all other means of communication fail, try words. > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 746-4127 or 888-75-BUDDY Create your own economic stimulus package: http://www.powermall.info ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: lenny net installer ` Buddy Brannan @ ` Chuck Hallenbeck 0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Chuck Hallenbeck @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Buddy, It's the soon-to-be-released Lenny Debian (still known as testing) and the installer is the RC1 Lenny installer on the Debian web page. Chuck On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 07:11:42PM -0500, Buddy Brannan wrote: > Is this a standard Debian disc, or do I have to get it somewhere else? I > find myself in need of a fresh Linux install.... -- The Moon is Waning Gibbous (89% of Full) My web site: http://hallenbeck.ftml.net -------- When all other means of communication fail, try words. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: lenny net installer ` Samuel Thibault ` Chuck Hallenbeck @ ` Steve Holmes ` luke ` Keith Barrett 2 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Steve Holmes @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 Yes, my CD images I downloaded yesterday worked on my good box. I can't get it to work on my laptop however. I can't tell if the initrd is at fault or if there just isn't enough memory in my lap to run this. It only has 32 MB <sigh> but I can run Slackware on it. Maybe I just had better stick to slackware on my laptop. Slackware has always prided itself in being able to run on lower grade machines. I like Debian on my big machine so wanted to move it onto my other machines but it falls over on my laptop. I dunno if there is anything I can do to make this happen or not. Actually, would it be possible to get speakup into the text installer instead? maybe the text installer would have a better chance to run on my low grade laptop. On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:29:08AM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Keith Barrett, le Sat 15 Nov 2008 23:21:23 +0000, a écrit : > > Got daughter to confirm that graphical is selected but still get an > > "unknown boot option" message. > > Well, actually that message is normal: the kernel just says that it > didn't use it. > > Oh, wait a minute: didn't you say that you use the beta2? I can't > remember when that was release but I bet speakup wasn't included at the > time. Release Candidate 1 should have it, however. > > Samuel -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFJH2LPWSjv55S0LfERA4NNAKCLUQZsTCGDS466Whk+KBXTy1ZDWACg7bxt UZXdfRY18FcZs7kiNLHU+uw= =n1ZU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: lenny net installer ` Steve Holmes @ ` luke ` Steve Holmes 0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: luke @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. [-- Attachment #1: Type: TEXT/PLAIN, Size: 1902 bytes --] Have you tried a talking live CD? SystemRescueCD or something? On Sat, 15 Nov 2008, Steve Holmes wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: RIPEMD160 > > Yes, my CD images I downloaded yesterday worked on my good box. I > can't get it to work on my laptop however. I can't tell if the initrd > is at fault or if there just isn't enough memory in my lap to run > this. It only has 32 MB <sigh> but I can run Slackware on it. Maybe > I just had better stick to slackware on my laptop. Slackware has > always prided itself in being able to run on lower grade machines. I > like Debian on my big machine so wanted to move it onto my other > machines but it falls over on my laptop. I dunno if there is anything > I can do to make this happen or not. Actually, would it be possible > to get speakup into the text installer instead? maybe the text > installer would have a better chance to run on my low grade laptop. > > On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:29:08AM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Keith Barrett, le Sat 15 Nov 2008 23:21:23 +0000, a écrit : > > > Got daughter to confirm that graphical is selected but still get an > > > "unknown boot option" message. > > > > Well, actually that message is normal: the kernel just says that it > > didn't use it. > > > > Oh, wait a minute: didn't you say that you use the beta2? I can't > > remember when that was release but I bet speakup wasn't included at the > > time. Release Candidate 1 should have it, however. > > > > Samuel > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFJH2LPWSjv55S0LfERA4NNAKCLUQZsTCGDS466Whk+KBXTy1ZDWACg7bxt > UZXdfRY18FcZs7kiNLHU+uw= > =n1ZU > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: lenny net installer ` luke @ ` Steve Holmes ` Gregory Nowak 0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Steve Holmes @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 Not yet. the closest thing to that would be my Slackware 12.1 installation disk; that's not the same as a live CD but that has been close enough for me so far. I would like to grab an image of sysresc if Speakup is back in it. On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 07:42:13PM -0500, luke wrote: > Have you tried a talking live CD? SystemRescueCD or something? > > > On Sat, 15 Nov 2008, Steve Holmes wrote: > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: RIPEMD160 > > > > Yes, my CD images I downloaded yesterday worked on my good box. I > > can't get it to work on my laptop however. I can't tell if the initrd > > is at fault or if there just isn't enough memory in my lap to run > > this. It only has 32 MB <sigh> but I can run Slackware on it. Maybe > > I just had better stick to slackware on my laptop. Slackware has > > always prided itself in being able to run on lower grade machines. I > > like Debian on my big machine so wanted to move it onto my other > > machines but it falls over on my laptop. I dunno if there is anything > > I can do to make this happen or not. Actually, would it be possible > > to get speakup into the text installer instead? maybe the text > > installer would have a better chance to run on my low grade laptop. > > > > On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:29:08AM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > Keith Barrett, le Sat 15 Nov 2008 23:21:23 +0000, a écrit : > > > > Got daughter to confirm that graphical is selected but still get an > > > > "unknown boot option" message. > > > > > > Well, actually that message is normal: the kernel just says that it > > > didn't use it. > > > > > > Oh, wait a minute: didn't you say that you use the beta2? I can't > > > remember when that was release but I bet speakup wasn't included at the > > > time. Release Candidate 1 should have it, however. > > > > > > Samuel > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) > > > > iD8DBQFJH2LPWSjv55S0LfERA4NNAKCLUQZsTCGDS466Whk+KBXTy1ZDWACg7bxt > > UZXdfRY18FcZs7kiNLHU+uw= > > =n1ZU > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFJINjLWSjv55S0LfERA4GuAJ0bBo48rszwVN1YuZPcS81U7SnAggCdF3Or 1gnVwDSEe0USInQ778O0kPE= =8GJx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: lenny net installer ` Steve Holmes @ ` Gregory Nowak ` John covici 0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 07:37:00PM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote: > I would like to grab an image of sysresc > if Speakup is back in it. Yes, speakup is back in sysresccd as of 1.1.0. There is also a speakup info page on the sysresccd wiki: http://www.sysresccd.org/speakup-info If you're using a dectalk express as your synth, you'll want to use sysresccd 1.1.2beta4, since it looks like we've gotten the dectalk bug squashed that was in sysresccd 1.1.0, and 1.1.1, thanks to Luke's testing, and reporting back. Also, there is a problem booting sysresccd 1.1.1 on some hardware configs, that has been fixed in 1.1.2beta4 also. So, unless the word beta makes you turn, run, and stay far away, you're better off using the latest beta of 1.1.2, as opposed to the latest stable 1.1.1. Hth. Greg - -- web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) - -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkkg9uoACgkQ7s9z/XlyUyDPMACgrqW7+qJRgbT4fcujnAbICh33 kQYAoMDvFHT6TOw+TxhgMHFHtCsCfjdZ =iPuR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: lenny net installer ` Gregory Nowak @ ` John covici ` Tony Baechler 0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: John covici @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Also, check out grml -- it has always had speakup in it and has a lot of tools also. on Sunday 11/16/2008 Gregory Nowak(greg@romuald.net.eu.org) wrote > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 07:37:00PM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote: > > I would like to grab an image of sysresc > > if Speakup is back in it. > > Yes, speakup is back in sysresccd as of 1.1.0. There is also a speakup > info page on the sysresccd wiki: > http://www.sysresccd.org/speakup-info > If you're using a dectalk express as your synth, you'll want to use > sysresccd 1.1.2beta4, since it looks like we've gotten the dectalk bug > squashed that was in sysresccd 1.1.0, and 1.1.1, thanks to Luke's > testing, and reporting back. Also, there is a problem booting > sysresccd 1.1.1 on some hardware configs, that has been fixed in > 1.1.2beta4 also. So, unless the word beta makes you turn, run, and > stay far away, you're better off using the latest beta of 1.1.2, as > opposed to the latest stable 1.1.1. Hth. > > Greg > > > > - -- > web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org > gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc > skype: gregn1 > (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) > > - -- > Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > > iEYEARECAAYFAkkg9uoACgkQ7s9z/XlyUyDPMACgrqW7+qJRgbT4fcujnAbICh33 > kQYAoMDvFHT6TOw+TxhgMHFHtCsCfjdZ > =iPuR > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici covici@ccs.covici.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: lenny net installer ` John covici @ ` Tony Baechler ` Steve Holmes ` luke 0 siblings, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Tony Baechler @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. John covici wrote: > Also, check out grml -- it has always had speakup in it and has a lot > of tools also. > Yes, but will it run under 32 MB of RAM? I know I had troubles with 256 MB, so I'm not sure how 32 MB would work. I'm sure it would be difficult with software speech. For that matter, I'm not sure that sysresccd would work either. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: lenny net installer ` Tony Baechler @ ` Steve Holmes ` luke 1 sibling, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Steve Holmes @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 32 megs is a challenge for sure. Surprisingly enough, I've been able to do quite a bit with it so far. I've had Slackware up to Version 12.0 running with software speech, espeak, wireless LAN and all and all for a machine with so little RAM and a 266 MHz processor, I'm pleasantly surprised at the performance. I got the thing for free from a nephew of mine a year or two ago and as long as I don't try to compile big programs like the kernel or mplayer, all is pretty good. I obviously would not consider running any X stuff at all but for a console device, there's still some life in it. I was just sadly disappointed I couldn't get Deb started on it but maybe that's the limit. I can keep going with Slackware on it though for now. As far as sysresccd goes, I guess I'll just havt to give it a try. I've always wanted to but hadn't gotten around to it yet. On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 03:23:22AM -0800, Tony Baechler wrote: > John covici wrote: >> Also, check out grml -- it has always had speakup in it and has a lot >> of tools also. >> > > > Yes, but will it run under 32 MB of RAM? I know I had troubles with 256 > MB, so I'm not sure how 32 MB would work. I'm sure it would be > difficult with software speech. For that matter, I'm not sure that > sysresccd would work either. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEAREDAAYFAkkhkOMACgkQWSjv55S0LfFxawCfe/pFoSRpZiy2IM/S9XmUdHHb CUIAn2bWKg6fdfwTmRB1W30JZYH8q1yu =+xJM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: lenny net installer ` Tony Baechler ` Steve Holmes @ ` luke 1 sibling, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: luke @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. On Mon, 17 Nov 2008, Tony Baechler wrote: > Yes, but will it run under 32 MB of RAM? I know I had troubles with 256 MB, > so I'm not sure how 32 MB would work. I'm sure it would be difficult with > software speech. For that matter, I'm not sure that sysresccd would work > either. I am about 90% sure that I have run SysResCD on a 32 MB RAM system. I had a bunch of old PCs here a few months ago (which means that they are still here, sitting there, looking at me, wondering why I haven't cannibalized them yet), and one of them was most definitely 32 MB RAM. I tested it with SysRescCD, and then fixed up its copy of Win 98. I'm almost sure that was one of those I ran SysResCD on. Luke ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: lenny net installer ` Samuel Thibault ` Chuck Hallenbeck ` Steve Holmes @ ` Keith Barrett 2 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Keith Barrett @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Thanks, Samuel, Got it now, downloaded a later iso and it worked fine. Nice to have an option to install a standard system and not all the gnome stuff. Samuel Thibault wrote: > Keith Barrett, le Sat 15 Nov 2008 23:21:23 +0000, a écrit : >> Got daughter to confirm that graphical is selected but still get an >> "unknown boot option" message. > > Well, actually that message is normal: the kernel just says that it > didn't use it. > > Oh, wait a minute: didn't you say that you use the beta2? I can't > remember when that was release but I bet speakup wasn't included at the > time. Release Candidate 1 should have it, however. > > Samuel > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > __________ NOD32 3615 (20081115) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: lenny net installer ` Keith Barrett ` Samuel Thibault @ ` Cheryl Homiak ` Samuel Thibault 1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Cheryl Homiak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Is there maybe an abbreviation for the synth name instead of writing it out? -- Cheryl "Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also." ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: lenny net installer ` Cheryl Homiak @ ` Samuel Thibault 0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Samuel Thibault @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Cheryl Homiak, le Sat 15 Nov 2008 17:33:31 -0600, a écrit : > Is there maybe an abbreviation for the synth name instead of writing it > out? No, it's indeed just e.g. speakup.synth=apollo Samuel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
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