lenny net installer

lenny net installer

[Keith Barrett]

I have downloaded the net installer beta 2 for lenny.

However, I cannot get speakup to come up talking.

I have done the following

booted from cd
when cd spins down hit tab and down arrow
then entered speakup.synth=apollo

Got my daughter to look at what was happening and there was an error 
saying unrecognised boot parameter.

So, do I have the wrong iso or am I missing something?

Many thanks

Keith

Re: lenny net installer

[Samuel Thibault]

Keith Barrett, le Sat 15 Nov 2008 21:26:27 -0000, a écrit :
> when cd spins down hit tab and down arrow

You need the converse: down arrow first (to select the graphical
installation) then tab.

> then entered speakup.synth=apollo

Samuel

Re: lenny net installer

[Keith Barrett]

Thanks for this but still no luck.

Got daughter to confirm that graphical is selected but still get an 
"unknown boot option" message.



Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Keith Barrett, le Sat 15 Nov 2008 21:26:27 -0000, a écrit :
>> when cd spins down hit tab and down arrow
> 
> You need the converse: down arrow first (to select the graphical
> installation) then tab.
> 
>> then entered speakup.synth=apollo
> 
> Samuel
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Re: lenny net installer

[Samuel Thibault]

Keith Barrett, le Sat 15 Nov 2008 23:21:23 +0000, a écrit :
> Got daughter to confirm that graphical is selected but still get an 
> "unknown boot option" message.

Well, actually that message is normal: the kernel just says that it
didn't use it.

Oh, wait a minute: didn't you say that you use the beta2?  I can't
remember when that was release but I bet speakup wasn't included at the
time. Release Candidate 1 should have it, however.

Samuel

Re: lenny net installer

[Cheryl Homiak]

Is there maybe an abbreviation for the synth name instead of writing it 
out?



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Re: lenny net installer

[Chuck Hallenbeck]

On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:29:08AM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> 
> Oh, wait a minute: didn't you say that you use the beta2?  I can't
> remember when that was release but I bet speakup wasn't included at the
> time. Release Candidate 1 should have it, however.
> 

It does. I just used it today and it works fine.

Chuck



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Re: lenny net installer

[Samuel Thibault]

Cheryl Homiak, le Sat 15 Nov 2008 17:33:31 -0600, a écrit :
> Is there maybe an abbreviation for the synth name instead of writing it 
> out?

No, it's indeed just e.g. speakup.synth=apollo

Samuel

Re: lenny net installer

[Steve Holmes]

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Yes, my CD images I downloaded yesterday worked on my good box.  I
can't get it to work on my laptop however.  I can't tell if the initrd
is at fault or if there just isn't enough memory in my lap to run
this.  It only has 32 MB <sigh> but I can run Slackware on it.  Maybe
I just had better stick to slackware on my laptop.  Slackware has
always prided itself in being able to run on lower grade machines.  I
like Debian on my big machine so wanted to move it onto my other
machines but it falls over on my laptop.  I dunno if there is anything
I can do to make this happen or not.  Actually, would it be possible
to get speakup into the text installer instead? maybe the text
installer would have a better chance to run on my low grade laptop.

On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:29:08AM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Keith Barrett, le Sat 15 Nov 2008 23:21:23 +0000, a écrit :
> > Got daughter to confirm that graphical is selected but still get an 
> > "unknown boot option" message.
> 
> Well, actually that message is normal: the kernel just says that it
> didn't use it.
> 
> Oh, wait a minute: didn't you say that you use the beta2?  I can't
> remember when that was release but I bet speakup wasn't included at the
> time. Release Candidate 1 should have it, however.
> 
> Samuel
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Re: lenny net installer

[Buddy Brannan]

Is this a standard Debian disc, or do I have to get it somewhere else?  
I find myself in need of a fresh Linux install....
On Nov 15, 2008, at 6:35 PM, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote:

> On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:29:08AM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
>>
>> Oh, wait a minute: didn't you say that you use the beta2?  I can't
>> remember when that was release but I bet speakup wasn't included at  
>> the
>> time. Release Candidate 1 should have it, however.
>>
>
> It does. I just used it today and it works fine.
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
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Re: lenny net installer

[Chuck Hallenbeck]

Buddy,

It's the soon-to-be-released Lenny Debian (still known as testing) and
the installer is the RC1 Lenny installer on the Debian web page.

Chuck


On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 07:11:42PM -0500, Buddy Brannan wrote:
> Is this a standard Debian disc, or do I have to get it somewhere else? I 
> find myself in need of a fresh Linux install....



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Re: lenny net installer

[luke]

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Have you tried a talking live CD?  SystemRescueCD or something?


On Sat, 15 Nov 2008, Steve Holmes wrote:

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> Yes, my CD images I downloaded yesterday worked on my good box.  I
> can't get it to work on my laptop however.  I can't tell if the initrd
> is at fault or if there just isn't enough memory in my lap to run
> this.  It only has 32 MB <sigh> but I can run Slackware on it.  Maybe
> I just had better stick to slackware on my laptop.  Slackware has
> always prided itself in being able to run on lower grade machines.  I
> like Debian on my big machine so wanted to move it onto my other
> machines but it falls over on my laptop.  I dunno if there is anything
> I can do to make this happen or not.  Actually, would it be possible
> to get speakup into the text installer instead? maybe the text
> installer would have a better chance to run on my low grade laptop.
> 
> On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:29:08AM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > Keith Barrett, le Sat 15 Nov 2008 23:21:23 +0000, a écrit :
> > > Got daughter to confirm that graphical is selected but still get an 
> > > "unknown boot option" message.
> > 
> > Well, actually that message is normal: the kernel just says that it
> > didn't use it.
> > 
> > Oh, wait a minute: didn't you say that you use the beta2?  I can't
> > remember when that was release but I bet speakup wasn't included at the
> > time. Release Candidate 1 should have it, however.
> > 
> > Samuel
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Re: lenny net installer

[Keith Barrett]

Thanks, Samuel,

Got it now, downloaded a later iso and it worked fine.

Nice to have an option to install a standard system and not all the 
gnome stuff.



Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Keith Barrett, le Sat 15 Nov 2008 23:21:23 +0000, a écrit :
>> Got daughter to confirm that graphical is selected but still get an 
>> "unknown boot option" message.
> 
> Well, actually that message is normal: the kernel just says that it
> didn't use it.
> 
> Oh, wait a minute: didn't you say that you use the beta2?  I can't
> remember when that was release but I bet speakup wasn't included at the
> time. Release Candidate 1 should have it, however.
> 
> Samuel
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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Re: lenny net installer

[Steve Holmes]

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Not yet.  the closest thing to that would be my Slackware 12.1
installation disk; that's not the same as a live CD but that has been
close enough for me so far.  I would like to grab an image of sysresc
if Speakup is back in it.

On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 07:42:13PM -0500, luke wrote:
> Have you tried a talking live CD?  SystemRescueCD or something?
> 
> 
> On Sat, 15 Nov 2008, Steve Holmes wrote:
> 
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> > 
> > Yes, my CD images I downloaded yesterday worked on my good box.  I
> > can't get it to work on my laptop however.  I can't tell if the initrd
> > is at fault or if there just isn't enough memory in my lap to run
> > this.  It only has 32 MB <sigh> but I can run Slackware on it.  Maybe
> > I just had better stick to slackware on my laptop.  Slackware has
> > always prided itself in being able to run on lower grade machines.  I
> > like Debian on my big machine so wanted to move it onto my other
> > machines but it falls over on my laptop.  I dunno if there is anything
> > I can do to make this happen or not.  Actually, would it be possible
> > to get speakup into the text installer instead? maybe the text
> > installer would have a better chance to run on my low grade laptop.
> > 
> > On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:29:08AM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > > Keith Barrett, le Sat 15 Nov 2008 23:21:23 +0000, a écrit :
> > > > Got daughter to confirm that graphical is selected but still get an 
> > > > "unknown boot option" message.
> > > 
> > > Well, actually that message is normal: the kernel just says that it
> > > didn't use it.
> > > 
> > > Oh, wait a minute: didn't you say that you use the beta2?  I can't
> > > remember when that was release but I bet speakup wasn't included at the
> > > time. Release Candidate 1 should have it, however.
> > > 
> > > Samuel
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> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: lenny net installer

[Gregory Nowak]

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On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 07:37:00PM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote:
> I would like to grab an image of sysresc
> if Speakup is back in it.

Yes, speakup is back in sysresccd as of 1.1.0. There is also a speakup
info page on the sysresccd wiki:
http://www.sysresccd.org/speakup-info
If you're using a dectalk express as your synth, you'll want to use
sysresccd 1.1.2beta4, since it looks like we've gotten the dectalk bug
squashed that was in sysresccd 1.1.0, and 1.1.1, thanks to Luke's
testing, and reporting back. Also, there is a problem booting
sysresccd 1.1.1 on some hardware configs, that has been fixed in
1.1.2beta4 also. So, unless the word beta makes you turn, run, and
stay far away, you're better off using the latest beta of 1.1.2, as
opposed to the latest stable 1.1.1. Hth.

Greg



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Re: lenny net installer

[John covici]

Also, check out grml -- it has always had speakup in it and has a lot
of tools also.

on Sunday 11/16/2008 Gregory Nowak(greg@romuald.net.eu.org) wrote
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 > On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 07:37:00PM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote:
 > > I would like to grab an image of sysresc
 > > if Speakup is back in it.
 > 
 > Yes, speakup is back in sysresccd as of 1.1.0. There is also a speakup
 > info page on the sysresccd wiki:
 > http://www.sysresccd.org/speakup-info
 > If you're using a dectalk express as your synth, you'll want to use
 > sysresccd 1.1.2beta4, since it looks like we've gotten the dectalk bug
 > squashed that was in sysresccd 1.1.0, and 1.1.1, thanks to Luke's
 > testing, and reporting back. Also, there is a problem booting
 > sysresccd 1.1.1 on some hardware configs, that has been fixed in
 > 1.1.2beta4 also. So, unless the word beta makes you turn, run, and
 > stay far away, you're better off using the latest beta of 1.1.2, as
 > opposed to the latest stable 1.1.1. Hth.
 > 
 > Greg
 > 
 > 
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Re: lenny net installer

[Tony Baechler]

John covici wrote:
> Also, check out grml -- it has always had speakup in it and has a lot
> of tools also.
>   


Yes, but will it run under 32 MB of RAM?  I know I had troubles with 256 
MB, so I'm not sure how 32 MB would work.  I'm sure it would be 
difficult with software speech.  For that matter, I'm not sure that 
sysresccd would work either.

Re: lenny net installer

[Steve Holmes]

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32 megs is a challenge for sure.  Surprisingly enough, I've been able
to do quite a bit with it so far.  I've had Slackware up to Version
12.0 running with software speech, espeak, wireless LAN and all and
all for a machine with so little RAM and a 266 MHz processor,  I'm
pleasantly surprised at the performance.  I got the thing for free
from a nephew of mine a year or two ago and as long as I don't try to
compile big programs like the kernel or mplayer, all is pretty good.
I obviously would not consider running any X stuff at all but for a
console device, there's still some life in it.  I was just sadly
disappointed I couldn't get Deb started on it but maybe that's the
limit.  I can keep going with Slackware on it though for now.

As far as sysresccd goes, I guess I'll just havt to give it a try.
I've always wanted to but hadn't gotten around to it yet.

On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 03:23:22AM -0800, Tony Baechler wrote:
> John covici wrote:
>> Also, check out grml -- it has always had speakup in it and has a lot
>> of tools also.
>>   
>
>
> Yes, but will it run under 32 MB of RAM?  I know I had troubles with 256  
> MB, so I'm not sure how 32 MB would work.  I'm sure it would be  
> difficult with software speech.  For that matter, I'm not sure that  
> sysresccd would work either.
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Re: lenny net installer

[luke]

On Mon, 17 Nov 2008, Tony Baechler wrote:

> Yes, but will it run under 32 MB of RAM?  I know I had troubles with 256 MB,
> so I'm not sure how 32 MB would work.  I'm sure it would be difficult with
> software speech.  For that matter, I'm not sure that sysresccd would work
> either.

I am about 90% sure that I have run SysResCD on a 32 MB RAM system.  I had 
a bunch of old PCs here a few months ago (which means that they are still 
here, sitting there, looking at me, wondering why I haven't cannibalized 
them yet), and one of them was most definitely 32 MB RAM.  I tested it 
with SysRescCD, and then fixed up its copy of Win 98.  I'm almost sure 
that was one of those I ran SysResCD on.

Luke