* Mutt and Gmail @ Steve Holmes ` Chuck Hallenbeck 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Steve Holmes @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 I've had mutt set up to work with gmail for some time now and all and all, it has worked quite well. But lately after installing Debian some time after that I keep getting an error when trying to send mail to the gmail smtp server. No authenticators available I've checked out all the ssl and tls related packages; I can read mail from gmail but I just can't seem to send anymore. Are there any mutt/gmail users out there who might be able to shed a light on this matter? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEAREDAAYFAkkCGX0ACgkQWSjv55S0LfHLWQCgniV5rffW2PqVA1NvzAQbwwHu WRgAnRNyyqFlzd8q9vo9PGAEgnkxyEEI =/Ofr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Mutt and Gmail Mutt and Gmail Steve Holmes @ ` Chuck Hallenbeck ` Steve Holmes 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Chuck Hallenbeck @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Steve, You are probably using exim4 to send your mail to a smart host. Look at: /etc/exim4/passwd.client Chuck On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:52:45AM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: RIPEMD160 > > I've had mutt set up to work with gmail for some time now and all and > all, it has worked quite well. But lately after installing Debian > some time after that I keep getting an error when trying to send mail > to the gmail smtp server. > > No authenticators available > > I've checked out all the ssl and tls related packages; I can read mail > from gmail but I just can't seem to send anymore. Are there any > mutt/gmail users out there who might be able to shed a light on this > matter? > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > > iEYEAREDAAYFAkkCGX0ACgkQWSjv55S0LfHLWQCgniV5rffW2PqVA1NvzAQbwwHu > WRgAnRNyyqFlzd8q9vo9PGAEgnkxyEEI > =/Ofr > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- The Moon is Waning Crescent (17% of Full) My web site: http://hallenbeck.ftml.net -- my telephone: 1-518-334-9022. -------- It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Mutt and Gmail ` Chuck Hallenbeck @ ` Steve Holmes ` Chuck Hallenbeck 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Steve Holmes @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 I looked at the exim logs and gmail was not mentioned anywhere; besides, I have mutt configured to go to gmail directly. These later versions of mutt allow for direct smtp with appropriate ssl/tls encryption. I don't know, but I fell back to using msmtp for the transport functions like I used to use and that works fine. I wonder if it's got to do with the way mutt was configured/compiled for debian or what. At least it works now even if I have to use an external component to move the mail. Thanks for the idea though. On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 02:56:46PM -0400, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote: > Steve, > > You are probably using exim4 to send your mail to a smart host. Look > at: > > /etc/exim4/passwd.client > > Chuck > > > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:52:45AM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: RIPEMD160 > > > > I've had mutt set up to work with gmail for some time now and all and > > all, it has worked quite well. But lately after installing Debian > > some time after that I keep getting an error when trying to send mail > > to the gmail smtp server. > > > > No authenticators available > > > > I've checked out all the ssl and tls related packages; I can read mail > > from gmail but I just can't seem to send anymore. Are there any > > mutt/gmail users out there who might be able to shed a light on this > > matter? > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > > > > iEYEAREDAAYFAkkCGX0ACgkQWSjv55S0LfHLWQCgniV5rffW2PqVA1NvzAQbwwHu > > WRgAnRNyyqFlzd8q9vo9PGAEgnkxyEEI > > =/Ofr > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > The Moon is Waning Crescent (17% of Full) > > My web site: http://hallenbeck.ftml.net -- my telephone: 1-518-334-9022. > -------- > It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final. > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEAREDAAYFAkkFNPYACgkQWSjv55S0LfFjQgCfQxf5UgbhE48x7JelF727bGdg bOMAoI5XTasRoJ3rove9llTUKoiCxk7a =etye -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Mutt and Gmail ` Steve Holmes @ ` Chuck Hallenbeck ` Alonzo 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Chuck Hallenbeck @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Steve, I use mutt too, but have always let it hand the outgoing stuff off to exim4 for handling. Exim4 spools the outgoing items, so it you often send with attachments, you don't have to wait while your MUA completes the send. You also have /etc/email-addresses and /etc/aliases to help adjusting your return address and routing your arrivals. If you have not already done so, you might want to consider getmail to replace fetchmail, if you are using it. Chuck On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 08:26:46PM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: RIPEMD160 > > I looked at the exim logs and gmail was not mentioned anywhere; > besides, I have mutt configured to go to gmail directly. These later > versions of mutt allow for direct smtp with appropriate ssl/tls > encryption. I don't know, but I fell back to using msmtp for the > transport functions like I used to use and that works fine. I wonder > if it's got to do with the way mutt was configured/compiled for debian > or what. At least it works now even if I have to use an external > component to move the mail. Thanks for the idea though. > > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 02:56:46PM -0400, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote: > > Steve, > > > > You are probably using exim4 to send your mail to a smart host. Look > > at: > > > > /etc/exim4/passwd.client > > > > Chuck > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:52:45AM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote: > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > Hash: RIPEMD160 > > > > > > I've had mutt set up to work with gmail for some time now and all and > > > all, it has worked quite well. But lately after installing Debian > > > some time after that I keep getting an error when trying to send mail > > > to the gmail smtp server. > > > > > > No authenticators available > > > > > > I've checked out all the ssl and tls related packages; I can read mail > > > from gmail but I just can't seem to send anymore. Are there any > > > mutt/gmail users out there who might be able to shed a light on this > > > matter? > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > > > > > > iEYEAREDAAYFAkkCGX0ACgkQWSjv55S0LfHLWQCgniV5rffW2PqVA1NvzAQbwwHu > > > WRgAnRNyyqFlzd8q9vo9PGAEgnkxyEEI > > > =/Ofr > > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > -- > > The Moon is Waning Crescent (17% of Full) > > > > My web site: http://hallenbeck.ftml.net -- my telephone: 1-518-334-9022. > > -------- > > It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final. > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > > iEYEAREDAAYFAkkFNPYACgkQWSjv55S0LfFjQgCfQxf5UgbhE48x7JelF727bGdg > bOMAoI5XTasRoJ3rove9llTUKoiCxk7a > =etye > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- The Moon is Waning Crescent (3% of Full) My web site: http://hallenbeck.ftml.net -- my telephone: 1-518-334-9022. -------- It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Mutt and Gmail ` Chuck Hallenbeck @ ` Alonzo ` Steve Holmes 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Alonzo @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hello chuck, I would like to use my AIM address for sending mail, however... i'm not exactly sure how to configure exim4 using debconf. I'm confused with the questions. so I've removed it for now until I have better documentation. Also when I start up debian lenny, it complains about send mailno make database that i have to build it by hand. Anyone know what that's about? Alonzo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Hallenbeck" <chuckh@ftml.net> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 4:16 AM Subject: Re: Mutt and Gmail > Steve, > > I use mutt too, but have always let it hand the outgoing stuff off to > exim4 for handling. Exim4 spools the outgoing items, so it you often > send with attachments, you don't have to wait while your MUA completes > the send. You also have /etc/email-addresses and /etc/aliases to help > adjusting your return address and routing your arrivals. If you have > not already done so, you might want to consider getmail to replace > fetchmail, if you are using it. > > Chuck > > > On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 08:26:46PM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: RIPEMD160 >> >> I looked at the exim logs and gmail was not mentioned anywhere; >> besides, I have mutt configured to go to gmail directly. These later >> versions of mutt allow for direct smtp with appropriate ssl/tls >> encryption. I don't know, but I fell back to using msmtp for the >> transport functions like I used to use and that works fine. I wonder >> if it's got to do with the way mutt was configured/compiled for debian >> or what. At least it works now even if I have to use an external >> component to move the mail. Thanks for the idea though. >> >> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 02:56:46PM -0400, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote: >> > Steve, >> > >> > You are probably using exim4 to send your mail to a smart host. Look >> > at: >> > >> > /etc/exim4/passwd.client >> > >> > Chuck >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:52:45AM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote: >> > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> > > Hash: RIPEMD160 >> > > >> > > I've had mutt set up to work with gmail for some time now and all and >> > > all, it has worked quite well. But lately after installing Debian >> > > some time after that I keep getting an error when trying to send mail >> > > to the gmail smtp server. >> > > >> > > No authenticators available >> > > >> > > I've checked out all the ssl and tls related packages; I can read >> > > mail >> > > from gmail but I just can't seem to send anymore. Are there any >> > > mutt/gmail users out there who might be able to shed a light on this >> > > matter? >> > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) >> > > >> > > iEYEAREDAAYFAkkCGX0ACgkQWSjv55S0LfHLWQCgniV5rffW2PqVA1NvzAQbwwHu >> > > WRgAnRNyyqFlzd8q9vo9PGAEgnkxyEEI >> > > =/Ofr >> > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Speakup mailing list >> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > >> > -- >> > The Moon is Waning Crescent (17% of Full) >> > >> > My web site: http://hallenbeck.ftml.net -- my telephone: >> > 1-518-334-9022. >> > -------- >> > It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever >> > final. >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Speakup mailing list >> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) >> >> iEYEAREDAAYFAkkFNPYACgkQWSjv55S0LfFjQgCfQxf5UgbhE48x7JelF727bGdg >> bOMAoI5XTasRoJ3rove9llTUKoiCxk7a >> =etye >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > The Moon is Waning Crescent (3% of Full) > > My web site: http://hallenbeck.ftml.net -- my telephone: 1-518-334-9022. > -------- > It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final. > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Mutt and Gmail ` Alonzo @ ` Steve Holmes ` Christopher Moore ` Kerry Hoath 0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Steve Holmes @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 I never got therror concerning a mak database for exim. I looked in the README files under the /usr/share/doc/exim4 for my instructions. Sorry, but right now I forget what I used to configure it; I suppose it was dpkg-reconfigure. Sorry, I'm new to Debian so am still bouncing off the walls a bit. I was a slackware user for over ten years so am more used to editing strait files. I didn't find the docs to be all that confusing though. In fact, one of the options in the config script enables me to hide the local machine name from my outgoing addresses and smart host over to my main mail server for non gmail activities. As for configuring exim to have two different smart hosts depending on what from address was used, that goes way over my head and I doubt any debconf scripts cover that. Plus AFAIK, exim doesn't handle ssl/tls encryption so that's why the need for either msmtp or mutt's internal smtp support. Both of these latter items support gmail. In fact, it is just recent that I ran into the situation that started this thread and that is mutt can't find any authenticators now when I use the internal smtp support but I can get them through msmtp OK. Mutt's smtp support works great on my laptop which is still running under slackware 12.0. Chuck, I don't use fetchmail or getmail on this box. I use Gmail's IMAP support directly in Mutt. It works pretty good too. On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 09:47:15AM -0500, Alonzo wrote: > Hello chuck, > > I would like to use my AIM address for sending mail, however... i'm not > exactly sure how to configure exim4 using debconf. I'm confused with the > questions. so I've removed it for now until I have better documentation. > Also when I start up debian lenny, it complains about send mailno make > database that i have to build it by hand. Anyone know what that's about? > > Alonzo > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Hallenbeck" <chuckh@ftml.net> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 4:16 AM > Subject: Re: Mutt and Gmail > > >> Steve, >> >> I use mutt too, but have always let it hand the outgoing stuff off to >> exim4 for handling. Exim4 spools the outgoing items, so it you often >> send with attachments, you don't have to wait while your MUA completes >> the send. You also have /etc/email-addresses and /etc/aliases to help >> adjusting your return address and routing your arrivals. If you have >> not already done so, you might want to consider getmail to replace >> fetchmail, if you are using it. >> >> Chuck >> >> >> On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 08:26:46PM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote: >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> Hash: RIPEMD160 >>> >>> I looked at the exim logs and gmail was not mentioned anywhere; >>> besides, I have mutt configured to go to gmail directly. These later >>> versions of mutt allow for direct smtp with appropriate ssl/tls >>> encryption. I don't know, but I fell back to using msmtp for the >>> transport functions like I used to use and that works fine. I wonder >>> if it's got to do with the way mutt was configured/compiled for debian >>> or what. At least it works now even if I have to use an external >>> component to move the mail. Thanks for the idea though. >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 02:56:46PM -0400, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote: >>> > Steve, >>> > >>> > You are probably using exim4 to send your mail to a smart host. Look >>> > at: >>> > >>> > /etc/exim4/passwd.client >>> > >>> > Chuck >>> > >>> > >>> > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:52:45AM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote: >>> > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> > > Hash: RIPEMD160 >>> > > >>> > > I've had mutt set up to work with gmail for some time now and all and >>> > > all, it has worked quite well. But lately after installing Debian >>> > > some time after that I keep getting an error when trying to send mail >>> > > to the gmail smtp server. >>> > > >>> > > No authenticators available >>> > > >>> > > I've checked out all the ssl and tls related packages; I can read >>> > > mail >>> > > from gmail but I just can't seem to send anymore. Are there any >>> > > mutt/gmail users out there who might be able to shed a light on this >>> > > matter? >>> > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >>> > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) >>> > > >>> > > iEYEAREDAAYFAkkCGX0ACgkQWSjv55S0LfHLWQCgniV5rffW2PqVA1NvzAQbwwHu >>> > > WRgAnRNyyqFlzd8q9vo9PGAEgnkxyEEI >>> > > =/Ofr >>> > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >>> > > _______________________________________________ >>> > > Speakup mailing list >>> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>> > >>> > -- > The Moon is Waning Crescent (17% of Full) >>> > >>> > My web site: http://hallenbeck.ftml.net -- my telephone: > >>> 1-518-334-9022. >>> > -------- >>> > It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever >>> > final. >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Speakup mailing list >>> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >>> Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) >>> >>> iEYEAREDAAYFAkkFNPYACgkQWSjv55S0LfFjQgCfQxf5UgbhE48x7JelF727bGdg >>> bOMAoI5XTasRoJ3rove9llTUKoiCxk7a >>> =etye >>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Speakup mailing list >>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >> -- >> The Moon is Waning Crescent (3% of Full) >> >> My web site: http://hallenbeck.ftml.net -- my telephone: 1-518-334-9022. >> -------- >> It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final. >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEAREDAAYFAkkF4R0ACgkQWSjv55S0LfEoPgCguwOPO6tpv828DBU3tzikcLaM PTMAnRcCIAawRUxE5NRRguyo/3scVbDT =ptHS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Mutt and Gmail ` Steve Holmes @ ` Christopher Moore ` Steve Holmes ` Kerry Hoath 1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Christopher Moore @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hello, Here I'm using getmail and simple-smtp to handle receiving and sending mail. For gmail, I have mutt set up to use imap. It seems to be working fine for me. I found an article on how to set it up. I have a special config file for gmail which I call gmail-mutt. When I want to use gmail I run mutt like this: mutt -F gmail-mutt For a single user system, sendmail and exim4 are overkill even though you can get them to work. Chris On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 08:41:17AM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: RIPEMD160 > > I never got therror concerning a mak database for exim. I looked in > the README files under the /usr/share/doc/exim4 for my instructions. > Sorry, but right now I forget what I used to configure it; I suppose > it was dpkg-reconfigure. Sorry, I'm new to Debian so am still > bouncing off the walls a bit. I was a slackware user for over ten > years so am more used to editing strait files. I didn't find the docs > to be all that confusing though. In fact, one of the options in the > config script enables me to hide the local machine name from my > outgoing addresses and smart host over to my main mail server for non > gmail activities. > > As for configuring exim to have two different smart hosts depending on > what from address was used, that goes way over my head and I doubt any > debconf scripts cover that. Plus AFAIK, exim doesn't handle ssl/tls > encryption so that's why the need for either msmtp or mutt's internal > smtp support. Both of these latter items support gmail. In fact, it > is just recent that I ran into the situation that started this thread > and that is mutt can't find any authenticators now when I use the > internal smtp support but I can get them through msmtp OK. Mutt's > smtp support works great on my laptop which is still running under > slackware 12.0. > > Chuck, I don't use fetchmail or getmail on this box. I use Gmail's > IMAP support directly in Mutt. It works pretty good too. > > On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 09:47:15AM -0500, Alonzo wrote: > > Hello chuck, > > > > I would like to use my AIM address for sending mail, however... i'm not > > exactly sure how to configure exim4 using debconf. I'm confused with the > > questions. so I've removed it for now until I have better documentation. > > Also when I start up debian lenny, it complains about send mailno make > > database that i have to build it by hand. Anyone know what that's about? > > > > Alonzo > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Hallenbeck" <chuckh@ftml.net> > > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 4:16 AM > > Subject: Re: Mutt and Gmail > > > > > >> Steve, > >> > >> I use mutt too, but have always let it hand the outgoing stuff off to > >> exim4 for handling. Exim4 spools the outgoing items, so it you often > >> send with attachments, you don't have to wait while your MUA completes > >> the send. You also have /etc/email-addresses and /etc/aliases to help > >> adjusting your return address and routing your arrivals. If you have > >> not already done so, you might want to consider getmail to replace > >> fetchmail, if you are using it. > >> > >> Chuck > >> > >> > >> On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 08:26:46PM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote: > >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >>> Hash: RIPEMD160 > >>> > >>> I looked at the exim logs and gmail was not mentioned anywhere; > >>> besides, I have mutt configured to go to gmail directly. These later > >>> versions of mutt allow for direct smtp with appropriate ssl/tls > >>> encryption. I don't know, but I fell back to using msmtp for the > >>> transport functions like I used to use and that works fine. I wonder > >>> if it's got to do with the way mutt was configured/compiled for debian > >>> or what. At least it works now even if I have to use an external > >>> component to move the mail. Thanks for the idea though. > >>> > >>> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 02:56:46PM -0400, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote: > >>> > Steve, > >>> > > >>> > You are probably using exim4 to send your mail to a smart host. Look > >>> > at: > >>> > > >>> > /etc/exim4/passwd.client > >>> > > >>> > Chuck > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:52:45AM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote: > >>> > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >>> > > Hash: RIPEMD160 > >>> > > > >>> > > I've had mutt set up to work with gmail for some time now and all and > >>> > > all, it has worked quite well. But lately after installing Debian > >>> > > some time after that I keep getting an error when trying to send mail > >>> > > to the gmail smtp server. > >>> > > > >>> > > No authenticators available > >>> > > > >>> > > I've checked out all the ssl and tls related packages; I can read > >>> > > mail > >>> > > from gmail but I just can't seem to send anymore. Are there any > >>> > > mutt/gmail users out there who might be able to shed a light on this > >>> > > matter? > >>> > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > >>> > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > >>> > > > >>> > > iEYEAREDAAYFAkkCGX0ACgkQWSjv55S0LfHLWQCgniV5rffW2PqVA1NvzAQbwwHu > >>> > > WRgAnRNyyqFlzd8q9vo9PGAEgnkxyEEI > >>> > > =/Ofr > >>> > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >>> > > _______________________________________________ > >>> > > Speakup mailing list > >>> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >>> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >>> > > >>> > -- > The Moon is Waning Crescent (17% of Full) > >>> > > >>> > My web site: http://hallenbeck.ftml.net -- my telephone: > > >>> 1-518-334-9022. > >>> > -------- > >>> > It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever > >>> > final. > >>> > _______________________________________________ > >>> > Speakup mailing list > >>> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >>> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > >>> Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > >>> > >>> iEYEAREDAAYFAkkFNPYACgkQWSjv55S0LfFjQgCfQxf5UgbhE48x7JelF727bGdg > >>> bOMAoI5XTasRoJ3rove9llTUKoiCxk7a > >>> =etye > >>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Speakup mailing list > >>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >> > >> -- > >> The Moon is Waning Crescent (3% of Full) > >> > >> My web site: http://hallenbeck.ftml.net -- my telephone: 1-518-334-9022. > >> -------- > >> It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final. > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Speakup mailing list > >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > > iEYEAREDAAYFAkkF4R0ACgkQWSjv55S0LfEoPgCguwOPO6tpv828DBU3tzikcLaM > PTMAnRcCIAawRUxE5NRRguyo/3scVbDT > =ptHS > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Mutt and Gmail ` Christopher Moore @ ` Steve Holmes ` David Csercsics 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Steve Holmes @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 It sounds like simple-smtp may be quite similar to msmtp. Do you use it for both your normal and gmail? I could probably do a similar thing here and completely remove exim but I think exim might be needed to support auto services like cron and other system utils that may generate e-mail such as debsecan. On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 04:24:44PM -0400, Christopher Moore wrote: > Hello, > Here I'm using getmail and simple-smtp to handle receiving and sending > mail. For gmail, I have mutt set up to use imap. It seems to be > working fine for me. I found an article on how to set it up. I have a > special config file for gmail which I call gmail-mutt. When I want to > use gmail I run mutt like this: > mutt -F gmail-mutt > > For a single user system, sendmail and exim4 are overkill even though > you can get them to work. > > Chris > On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 08:41:17AM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: RIPEMD160 > > > > I never got therror concerning a mak database for exim. I looked in > > the README files under the /usr/share/doc/exim4 for my instructions. > > Sorry, but right now I forget what I used to configure it; I suppose > > it was dpkg-reconfigure. Sorry, I'm new to Debian so am still > > bouncing off the walls a bit. I was a slackware user for over ten > > years so am more used to editing strait files. I didn't find the docs > > to be all that confusing though. In fact, one of the options in the > > config script enables me to hide the local machine name from my > > outgoing addresses and smart host over to my main mail server for non > > gmail activities. > > > > As for configuring exim to have two different smart hosts depending on > > what from address was used, that goes way over my head and I doubt any > > debconf scripts cover that. Plus AFAIK, exim doesn't handle ssl/tls > > encryption so that's why the need for either msmtp or mutt's internal > > smtp support. Both of these latter items support gmail. In fact, it > > is just recent that I ran into the situation that started this thread > > and that is mutt can't find any authenticators now when I use the > > internal smtp support but I can get them through msmtp OK. Mutt's > > smtp support works great on my laptop which is still running under > > slackware 12.0. > > > > Chuck, I don't use fetchmail or getmail on this box. I use Gmail's > > IMAP support directly in Mutt. It works pretty good too. > > > > On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 09:47:15AM -0500, Alonzo wrote: > > > Hello chuck, > > > > > > I would like to use my AIM address for sending mail, however... i'm not > > > exactly sure how to configure exim4 using debconf. I'm confused with the > > > questions. so I've removed it for now until I have better documentation. > > > Also when I start up debian lenny, it complains about send mailno make > > > database that i have to build it by hand. Anyone know what that's about? > > > > > > Alonzo > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Hallenbeck" <chuckh@ftml.net> > > > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > > > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 4:16 AM > > > Subject: Re: Mutt and Gmail > > > > > > > > >> Steve, > > >> > > >> I use mutt too, but have always let it hand the outgoing stuff off to > > >> exim4 for handling. Exim4 spools the outgoing items, so it you often > > >> send with attachments, you don't have to wait while your MUA completes > > >> the send. You also have /etc/email-addresses and /etc/aliases to help > > >> adjusting your return address and routing your arrivals. If you have > > >> not already done so, you might want to consider getmail to replace > > >> fetchmail, if you are using it. > > >> > > >> Chuck > > >> > > >> > > >> On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 08:26:46PM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote: > > >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > >>> Hash: RIPEMD160 > > >>> > > >>> I looked at the exim logs and gmail was not mentioned anywhere; > > >>> besides, I have mutt configured to go to gmail directly. These later > > >>> versions of mutt allow for direct smtp with appropriate ssl/tls > > >>> encryption. I don't know, but I fell back to using msmtp for the > > >>> transport functions like I used to use and that works fine. I wonder > > >>> if it's got to do with the way mutt was configured/compiled for debian > > >>> or what. At least it works now even if I have to use an external > > >>> component to move the mail. Thanks for the idea though. > > >>> > > >>> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 02:56:46PM -0400, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote: > > >>> > Steve, > > >>> > > > >>> > You are probably using exim4 to send your mail to a smart host. Look > > >>> > at: > > >>> > > > >>> > /etc/exim4/passwd.client > > >>> > > > >>> > Chuck > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:52:45AM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote: > > >>> > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > >>> > > Hash: RIPEMD160 > > >>> > > > > >>> > > I've had mutt set up to work with gmail for some time now and all and > > >>> > > all, it has worked quite well. But lately after installing Debian > > >>> > > some time after that I keep getting an error when trying to send mail > > >>> > > to the gmail smtp server. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > No authenticators available > > >>> > > > > >>> > > I've checked out all the ssl and tls related packages; I can read > > >>> > > mail > > >>> > > from gmail but I just can't seem to send anymore. Are there any > > >>> > > mutt/gmail users out there who might be able to shed a light on this > > >>> > > matter? > > >>> > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > >>> > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > > >>> > > > > >>> > > iEYEAREDAAYFAkkCGX0ACgkQWSjv55S0LfHLWQCgniV5rffW2PqVA1NvzAQbwwHu > > >>> > > WRgAnRNyyqFlzd8q9vo9PGAEgnkxyEEI > > >>> > > =/Ofr > > >>> > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > >>> > > _______________________________________________ > > >>> > > Speakup mailing list > > >>> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > >>> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > >>> > > > >>> > -- > The Moon is Waning Crescent (17% of Full) > > >>> > > > >>> > My web site: http://hallenbeck.ftml.net -- my telephone: > > > >>> 1-518-334-9022. > > >>> > -------- > > >>> > It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever > > >>> > final. > > >>> > _______________________________________________ > > >>> > Speakup mailing list > > >>> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > >>> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > >>> Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > > >>> > > >>> iEYEAREDAAYFAkkFNPYACgkQWSjv55S0LfFjQgCfQxf5UgbhE48x7JelF727bGdg > > >>> bOMAoI5XTasRoJ3rove9llTUKoiCxk7a > > >>> =etye > > >>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> Speakup mailing list > > >>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > >> > > >> -- > > >> The Moon is Waning Crescent (3% of Full) > > >> > > >> My web site: http://hallenbeck.ftml.net -- my telephone: 1-518-334-9022. > > >> -------- > > >> It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final. > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Speakup mailing list > > >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > > > > iEYEAREDAAYFAkkF4R0ACgkQWSjv55S0LfEoPgCguwOPO6tpv828DBU3tzikcLaM > > PTMAnRcCIAawRUxE5NRRguyo/3scVbDT > > =ptHS > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEAREDAAYFAkkGQKwACgkQWSjv55S0LfG0MgCgk+tnWwPlt2dILxQ7IWVSB4Yi z28AnjdyNW91Nejwv2xWJnAiukT4E/aX =rv50 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Mutt and Gmail ` Steve Holmes @ ` David Csercsics 0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: David Csercsics @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > It sounds like simple-smtp may be quite similar to msmtp. Do you use > it for both your normal and gmail? I could probably do a similar > thing here and completely remove exim but I think exim might be needed > to support auto services like cron and other system utils that may > generate e-mail such as debsecan. It's not really *needed* but it's not a good idea to have cron mail going to your ISP account I don't think. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Mutt and Gmail ` Steve Holmes ` Christopher Moore @ ` Kerry Hoath 1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Kerry Hoath @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Let me tidy up a few small things here. Exim4 does in deed support both tls and ssl for smarthosts and local smtp authentication. You need to install exim4-daemon-heavy for the advanced authenticators, ldap and sql support. You can configure your smarthost to authenticate with ssl and tls, might have to do it by hand by editing files in /etc/exim4. I personally split the config into a whole pile of little files (option in dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config) then you run update-exim4.conf when you edit the fragments. monolythic is ok too but you end up editing a large file and it can be easier to make mistakes and harder to find what you want. the heavy deamon also supports exiscan so you can set up stuff like spam assassin and clamav if that floats your boat. If your current setup works for you probably no need to go through all this bother. I'm just guarding against the statements that exim4 can't do ssl or tls; i'd hate those sorts of ideas to get stuck in the archives when they are in fact not the case. apt-get install exim4-doc-html is a good idea or unzip the spec.txt file in /usr/share/doc/exim4 there's an intire manual there, something that few of us have the time to read in these busy days however it's nice to know it is there when you need it. Regards, Kerry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Holmes" <steve@holmesgrown.com> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 12:41 AM Subject: Re: Mutt and Gmail > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: RIPEMD160 > > I never got therror concerning a mak database for exim. I looked in > the README files under the /usr/share/doc/exim4 for my instructions. > Sorry, but right now I forget what I used to configure it; I suppose > it was dpkg-reconfigure. Sorry, I'm new to Debian so am still > bouncing off the walls a bit. I was a slackware user for over ten > years so am more used to editing strait files. I didn't find the docs > to be all that confusing though. In fact, one of the options in the > config script enables me to hide the local machine name from my > outgoing addresses and smart host over to my main mail server for non > gmail activities. > > As for configuring exim to have two different smart hosts depending on > what from address was used, that goes way over my head and I doubt any > debconf scripts cover that. Plus AFAIK, exim doesn't handle ssl/tls > encryption so that's why the need for either msmtp or mutt's internal > smtp support. Both of these latter items support gmail. In fact, it > is just recent that I ran into the situation that started this thread > and that is mutt can't find any authenticators now when I use the > internal smtp support but I can get them through msmtp OK. Mutt's > smtp support works great on my laptop which is still running under > slackware 12.0. > > Chuck, I don't use fetchmail or getmail on this box. I use Gmail's > IMAP support directly in Mutt. It works pretty good too. > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
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