From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.wa.amnet.net.au (smtp1.wa.amnet.net.au [203.161.124.50]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7664610A51 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:26:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1.wa.amnet.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id E122B7DAE9 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 08:27:30 +0900 (WST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp1.wa.amnet.net.au Received: from smtp1.wa.amnet.net.au ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp1.wa.amnet.net.au [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IVtKqMYzU6bg for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 08:27:27 +0900 (WST) Received: from gotss1.gotss.net (203.161.101.89.static.amnet.net.au [203.161.101.89]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp1.wa.amnet.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEC5F7DA0E for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 08:27:27 +0900 (WST) Received: from bouncy.gotss.net ([192.168.24.37] helo=bouncy) by gotss1.gotss.net with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KubUc-00032G-F2 for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 08:27:26 +0900 Message-ID: <5644721A67DC451A8A1DA8A90455FF8C@bouncy> From: "Kerry Hoath" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." References: <20081027091657.GA16780@cq.ftml.net> <20081027154117.GA13533@lnx3.holmesgrown.com> Subject: Re: Mutt and Gmail Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 08:27:28 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:26:18 -0000 Let me tidy up a few small things here. Exim4 does in deed support both tls and ssl for smarthosts and local smtp authentication. You need to install exim4-daemon-heavy for the advanced authenticators, ldap and sql support. You can configure your smarthost to authenticate with ssl and tls, might have to do it by hand by editing files in /etc/exim4. I personally split the config into a whole pile of little files (option in dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config) then you run update-exim4.conf when you edit the fragments. monolythic is ok too but you end up editing a large file and it can be easier to make mistakes and harder to find what you want. the heavy deamon also supports exiscan so you can set up stuff like spam assassin and clamav if that floats your boat. If your current setup works for you probably no need to go through all this bother. I'm just guarding against the statements that exim4 can't do ssl or tls; i'd hate those sorts of ideas to get stuck in the archives when they are in fact not the case. apt-get install exim4-doc-html is a good idea or unzip the spec.txt file in /usr/share/doc/exim4 there's an intire manual there, something that few of us have the time to read in these busy days however it's nice to know it is there when you need it. Regards, Kerry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Holmes" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 12:41 AM Subject: Re: Mutt and Gmail > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: RIPEMD160 > > I never got therror concerning a mak database for exim. I looked in > the README files under the /usr/share/doc/exim4 for my instructions. > Sorry, but right now I forget what I used to configure it; I suppose > it was dpkg-reconfigure. Sorry, I'm new to Debian so am still > bouncing off the walls a bit. I was a slackware user for over ten > years so am more used to editing strait files. I didn't find the docs > to be all that confusing though. In fact, one of the options in the > config script enables me to hide the local machine name from my > outgoing addresses and smart host over to my main mail server for non > gmail activities. > > As for configuring exim to have two different smart hosts depending on > what from address was used, that goes way over my head and I doubt any > debconf scripts cover that. Plus AFAIK, exim doesn't handle ssl/tls > encryption so that's why the need for either msmtp or mutt's internal > smtp support. Both of these latter items support gmail. In fact, it > is just recent that I ran into the situation that started this thread > and that is mutt can't find any authenticators now when I use the > internal smtp support but I can get them through msmtp OK. Mutt's > smtp support works great on my laptop which is still running under > slackware 12.0. > > Chuck, I don't use fetchmail or getmail on this box. I use Gmail's > IMAP support directly in Mutt. It works pretty good too. >