* need some accessible command-line tools @ Don Raikes ` Doug Smith ` Gregory Nowak 0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Don Raikes @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: debian-accessibility; +Cc: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi all, I don't know where else to ask this question, so here it goes. I am building a console-only debian-based live/installed system, and I am looking for any suggestions on packages for the following: 1. Pdf to text/html conversion (found pdftohtml, but not pdftotext). 2. Some kind of perhaps curses-based word processing program. Doesn't have to be real fancy, But need to be able to import resulting documents into office or openoffice. 3. Text-based network management tool. Any tips would be appreciated. -- Best Regards, Donald HYPERLINK "http://www.oracle.com/" \nOracle Donald raikes | Accessibility Specialist/ QA Engineer Phone: HYPERLINK "tel:+15202717608"+15202717608 | Mobile: HYPERLINK "tel:+15202717608"+15202717608 Oracle Quality Assurance | Tucson, Arizona HYPERLINK "http://www.oracle.com/commitment" \nGreen Oracle Oracle is committed to developing practices and products that help protect the environment ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: need some accessible command-line tools need some accessible command-line tools Don Raikes @ ` Doug Smith ` Brian Buhrow ` Willem van der Walt ` Gregory Nowak 1 sibling, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Doug Smith @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Ok, here's the best answer I can give you. As far as pdftotext, it is in the poppler-utils package. I do not know of any kind of command line word processor, but there is LaTeX, if that is the way you want to go. I have never found any kind of good command line network management tool. That is, none of what I have tried has worked. I have tried wicd-cli, but it refused to even allow the networks in this building to be scanned. At this time, I am using ifupdown suite to do this: Each connection you have, make a copy of your /etc/network/interfaces for that connection, editing the critical data such as essid and password. When you are at a different location, and you know which connection works best do this: ifdown wlan0; ifup -i file-for-working-connection wlan0 This uses dhclient to get the addresses and bind to connect it all up. This is not anything like it's done in the gui world, but I have found no network tool that will even work. Nmcli, for example does not have all the functionality you might need unless someone knows how to use it, and that might be of help. I have never gotten wicd-cli to scan networks and that would help me a lot if that worked, but it doesn't. Hope this helps. -- Doug Smith: Special Agent S.W.A.T Spiritual Warfare and Advanced Technology Forever serving our LORD and SAVIOUR, JESUS CHRIST. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: need some accessible command-line tools ` Doug Smith @ ` Brian Buhrow ` Willem van der Walt 1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Brian Buhrow @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.; +Cc: buhrow hello. If what you mean by network management tool is a tool that lets you seemlessly switch from wireless network to wireless network as you move around, you can use a combination of dhcpdc and wpa_supplicant. You may need to write a simple bash script to get things started when you want to get things going, or which runs automatically on boot, but once going, dhcpdc and wpa_supplicant can and will reconfigure the network stack as conditions and environments change. -thanks -Brian On Jun 19, 5:37pm, Doug Smith wrote: } Subject: Re: need some accessible command-line tools } } } Ok, here's the best answer I can give you. As far as pdftotext, it is in the poppler-utils package. I do not know of any kind of command line word } processor, but there is LaTeX, if that is the way you want to go. I have never found any kind of good command line network management tool. That is, } none of what I have tried has worked. I have tried wicd-cli, but it refused to even allow the networks in this building to be scanned. At this time, } I am using ifupdown suite to do this: } } Each connection you have, make a copy of your /etc/network/interfaces for that connection, editing the critical data such as essid and password. When } you are at a different location, and you know which connection works best do this: } } ifdown wlan0; ifup -i file-for-working-connection wlan0 } } This uses dhclient to get the addresses and bind to connect it all up. This is not anything like it's done in the gui world, but I have found no } network tool that will even work. Nmcli, for example does not have all the functionality you might need unless someone knows how to use it, and that } might be of help. I have never gotten wicd-cli to scan networks and that would help me a lot if that worked, but it doesn't. } } } } Hope this helps. } } } } } -- } Doug Smith: Special Agent } S.W.A.T Spiritual Warfare and Advanced Technology } Forever serving our LORD and SAVIOUR, JESUS CHRIST. } } _______________________________________________ } Speakup mailing list } Speakup@linux-speakup.org } http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup >-- End of excerpt from Doug Smith ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: need some accessible command-line tools ` Doug Smith ` Brian Buhrow @ ` Willem van der Walt 1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Willem van der Walt @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi, As part of the kies software I have released a while ago, there is a script/program called kies__wifi with which one can scan/configure the wifi. It will list the found networks and allow user-friendly configuration which is then written to wpa_supplicant.conf. It is called as in kies_wifi wlan0 or whatever the wifi interface is called. I would actually like some more people to test this. Kies can be downloaded at: ftp://ftp.csir.co.za/MI/National_Accessibility_Portal/wvdwalt/kies-latest.tar.bz2 Kind regards, Willem On Wed, 19 Jun 2013, Doug Smith wrote: > > > Ok, here's the best answer I can give you. As far as pdftotext, it is in the poppler-utils package. I do not know of any kind of command line word > processor, but there is LaTeX, if that is the way you want to go. I have never found any kind of good command line network management tool. That is, > none of what I have tried has worked. I have tried wicd-cli, but it refused to even allow the networks in this building to be scanned. At this time, > I am using ifupdown suite to do this: > > Each connection you have, make a copy of your /etc/network/interfaces for that connection, editing the critical data such as essid and password. When > you are at a different location, and you know which connection works best do this: > > ifdown wlan0; ifup -i file-for-working-connection wlan0 > > This uses dhclient to get the addresses and bind to connect it all up. This is not anything like it's done in the gui world, but I have found no > network tool that will even work. Nmcli, for example does not have all the functionality you might need unless someone knows how to use it, and that > might be of help. I have never gotten wicd-cli to scan networks and that would help me a lot if that worked, but it doesn't. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > -- > Doug Smith: Special Agent > S.W.A.T Spiritual Warfare and Advanced Technology > Forever serving our LORD and SAVIOUR, JESUS CHRIST. > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > This message is subject to the CSIR's copyright terms and conditions, e-mail legal notice, and implemented Open Document Format (ODF) standard. > The full disclaimer details can be found at http://www.csir.co.za/disclaimer.html. > > This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, > and is believed to be clean. > > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: need some accessible command-line tools need some accessible command-line tools Don Raikes ` Doug Smith @ ` Gregory Nowak ` Adam Myrow ` Sean Murphy 1 sibling, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi Don, On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 02:23:51PM -0700, Don Raikes wrote: > 1. Pdf to text/html conversion (found pdftohtml, but not pdftotext). On my debian squeeze system, pdftotext is in the poppler-utils package. > 3. Text-based network management tool. > I think /etc/network/interfaces, if-up/if-down and associated packages do a good job here. Is there specific network functionality you have in mind not covered by what debian uses by default? Greg -- web site: http://www.gregn..net gpg public key: http://www.gregn..net/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: need some accessible command-line tools ` Gregory Nowak @ ` Adam Myrow ` Sean Murphy 1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Adam Myrow @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. There is a Debian package called Wordgrinder. It is the closest thing to a text-based word processor I could find. I haven't tried it, however. So, I don't know what it can do. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: need some accessible command-line tools ` Gregory Nowak ` Adam Myrow @ ` Sean Murphy ` Mike Ray ` Don Raikes 1 sibling, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Sean Murphy @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi. Does any one have good documentation on how to understand/use Tshark and TCPDump other then the manual? Even scripts that can extract net flows from the stream of network traffic? Sean On 20/06/2013, at 7:39 AM, Gregory Nowak <greg@gregn.net> wrote: > Hi Don, > > > On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 02:23:51PM -0700, Don Raikes wrote: >> 1. Pdf to text/html conversion (found pdftohtml, but not pdftotext). > > On my debian squeeze system, pdftotext is in the poppler-utils package. > >> 3. Text-based network management tool. >> > > I think /etc/network/interfaces, if-up/if-down and associated packages > do a good job here. Is there specific network functionality you have > in mind not covered by what debian uses by default? > > Greg > > > -- > web site: http://www.gregn..net > gpg public key: http://www.gregn..net/pubkey.asc > skype: gregn1 > (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) > > -- > Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: need some accessible command-line tools ` Sean Murphy @ ` Mike Ray ` Jason White ` Don Raikes 1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Mike Ray @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hello, I'm going to throw in a vote for Emacs/Emacspeak here. Steep learning curve...which some people disagree with but I think it's true. But when you get a handle on the various modes available for editing in different formats it is possible to really be productive. One of the members of Raspberry VI is currently climbing the learning curve very quickly and is producing amazing results. It's possible to launch Emacs/Emacspeak at the start of the day and get everything done without leaving it. Except Javascript enabled web browsing perhaps :( Mike On 20/06/2013 00:35, Sean Murphy wrote: > Hi. > > Does any one have good documentation on how to understand/use Tshark and TCPDump other then the manual? Even scripts that can extract net flows from the stream of network traffic? > > Sean > On 20/06/2013, at 7:39 AM, Gregory Nowak <greg@gregn.net> wrote: > >> Hi Don, >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 02:23:51PM -0700, Don Raikes wrote: >>> 1. Pdf to text/html conversion (found pdftohtml, but not pdftotext). >> On my debian squeeze system, pdftotext is in the poppler-utils package. >> >>> 3. Text-based network management tool. >>> >> I think /etc/network/interfaces, if-up/if-down and associated packages >> do a good job here. Is there specific network functionality you have >> in mind not covered by what debian uses by default? >> >> Greg >> >> >> -- >> web site: http://www.gregn..net >> gpg public key: http://www.gregn..net/pubkey.asc >> skype: gregn1 >> (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) >> >> -- >> Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@linux-speakup.org >> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Michael A. Ray Analyst/Programmer Witley, Surrey, South-east UK Interested in accessibility on the Raspberry Pi? Visit: http://www.raspberryvi.org/ From where you can join our mailing list for visually-impaired Pi hackers ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: need some accessible command-line tools ` Mike Ray @ ` Jason White 0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Jason White @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Mike Ray <mike@raspberryvi.org> wrote: > > I'm going to throw in a vote for Emacs/Emacspeak here. Steep > learning curve...which some people disagree with but I think it's > true. But when you get a handle on the various modes available for > editing in different formats it is possible to really be productive. I agree that Emacs and Emacspeak make a wonderfully productive working environment. As for learning, I don't think it's difficult as long as the new user understands the need for it and works at it systematically. Start with the built-in tutorial, then learn Info mode and start reading the Emacs manual, or read it online in a browser. Actually reading it in Emacs and trying the commands for practice would be better however. I write all of my work in Emacs, and recommend AUCTeX mode for preparing documents in LaTeX, which can then be converted to PDF and other formats. > > One of the members of Raspberry VI is currently climbing the > learning curve very quickly and is producing amazing results. > Excellent. > It's possible to launch Emacs/Emacspeak at the start of the day and > get everything done without leaving it. Except Javascript enabled > web browsing perhaps :( For speech output from a browser, there's always ChromeVox, which takes a similar approach in the browser environment to that which Emacspeak does in Emacs. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* RE: need some accessible command-line tools ` Sean Murphy ` Mike Ray @ ` Don Raikes 1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Don Raikes @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I'm going to start working on that soon. -----Original Message----- From: Sean Murphy [mailto:mhysnm1964@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 4:35 PM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: Re: need some accessible command-line tools Hi. Does any one have good documentation on how to understand/use Tshark and TCPDump other then the manual? Even scripts that can extract net flows from the stream of network traffic? Sean On 20/06/2013, at 7:39 AM, Gregory Nowak <greg@gregn.net> wrote: > Hi Don, > > > On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 02:23:51PM -0700, Don Raikes wrote: >> 1. Pdf to text/html conversion (found pdftohtml, but not pdftotext). > > On my debian squeeze system, pdftotext is in the poppler-utils package. > >> 3. Text-based network management tool. >> > > I think /etc/network/interfaces, if-up/if-down and associated packages > do a good job here. Is there specific network functionality you have > in mind not covered by what debian uses by default? > > Greg > > > -- > web site: http://www.gregn..net > gpg public key: http://www.gregn..net/pubkey.asc > skype: gregn1 > (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) > > -- > Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@linux-speakup.org http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
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