need some accessible command-line tools

need some accessible command-line tools

[Don Raikes]

Hi all,

 

I don't know where else to ask this question, so here it goes.

 

I am building a console-only debian-based live/installed system, and I am looking for any suggestions on packages for the following:

 

1.       Pdf to text/html conversion (found pdftohtml, but not pdftotext).

2.       Some kind of perhaps curses-based word processing program. Doesn't have to be real fancy,

But need to be able to import resulting documents into office or openoffice.

3.       Text-based network management tool.

Any tips would be appreciated.

 

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Re: need some accessible command-line tools

[Doug Smith]

Ok, here's the best answer I can give you.  As far as pdftotext, it is in the poppler-utils package.  I do not know of any kind of command line word 
processor, but there is LaTeX, if that is the way you want to go.  I have never found any kind of good command line network management tool.  That is, 
none of what I have tried has worked.  I have tried wicd-cli, but it refused to even allow the networks in this building to be scanned.  At this time, 
I am using ifupdown suite to do this: 

Each connection you have, make a copy of your /etc/network/interfaces for that connection, editing the critical data such as essid and password.  When 
you are at a different location, and you know which connection works best do this: 

ifdown wlan0; ifup -i file-for-working-connection wlan0

This uses dhclient to get the addresses and bind to connect it all up.  This is not anything like it's done in the gui world, but I have found no 
network tool that will even work.  Nmcli, for example does not have all the functionality you might need unless someone knows how to use it, and that 
might be of help.  I have never gotten wicd-cli to scan networks and that would help me a lot if that worked, but it doesn't.  



Hope this helps. 




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Re: need some accessible command-line tools

[Gregory Nowak]

Hi Don,


On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 02:23:51PM -0700, Don Raikes wrote:
> 1.       Pdf to text/html conversion (found pdftohtml, but not pdftotext).

On my debian squeeze system, pdftotext is in the poppler-utils package.

> 3.       Text-based network management tool.
> 

I think /etc/network/interfaces, if-up/if-down and associated packages
do a good job here. Is there specific network functionality you have
in mind not covered by what debian uses by default?

Greg


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Re: need some accessible command-line tools

[Brian Buhrow]

	hello.  If what you mean by network management tool is a tool that
lets you  seemlessly switch from wireless network to wireless network as
you move around, you can use a combination of dhcpdc and wpa_supplicant.
You may need to write a simple bash script to get things started when you
want to get things going, or which runs automatically on boot, but once
going, dhcpdc and wpa_supplicant can and will reconfigure the network stack
as conditions and environments change.
-thanks
-Brian

On Jun 19,  5:37pm, Doug Smith wrote:
} Subject: Re: need some accessible command-line tools
} 
} 
} Ok, here's the best answer I can give you.  As far as pdftotext, it is in the poppler-utils package.  I do not know of any kind of command line word 
} processor, but there is LaTeX, if that is the way you want to go.  I have never found any kind of good command line network management tool.  That is, 
} none of what I have tried has worked.  I have tried wicd-cli, but it refused to even allow the networks in this building to be scanned.  At this time, 
} I am using ifupdown suite to do this: 
} 
} Each connection you have, make a copy of your /etc/network/interfaces for that connection, editing the critical data such as essid and password.  When 
} you are at a different location, and you know which connection works best do this: 
} 
} ifdown wlan0; ifup -i file-for-working-connection wlan0
} 
} This uses dhclient to get the addresses and bind to connect it all up.  This is not anything like it's done in the gui world, but I have found no 
} network tool that will even work.  Nmcli, for example does not have all the functionality you might need unless someone knows how to use it, and that 
} might be of help.  I have never gotten wicd-cli to scan networks and that would help me a lot if that worked, but it doesn't.  
} 
} 
} 
} Hope this helps. 
} 
} 
} 
} 
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Re: need some accessible command-line tools

[Adam Myrow]

There is a Debian package called Wordgrinder.  It is the closest thing to 
a text-based word processor I could find.  I haven't tried it, however. 
So, I don't know what it can do.

Re: need some accessible command-line tools

[Sean Murphy]

Hi.

Does any one have good documentation on how to understand/use Tshark and TCPDump other then the manual? Even scripts that can extract net flows from the stream of network traffic?

Sean 
On 20/06/2013, at 7:39 AM, Gregory Nowak <greg@gregn.net> wrote:

> Hi Don,
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 02:23:51PM -0700, Don Raikes wrote:
>> 1.       Pdf to text/html conversion (found pdftohtml, but not pdftotext).
> 
> On my debian squeeze system, pdftotext is in the poppler-utils package.
> 
>> 3.       Text-based network management tool.
>> 
> 
> I think /etc/network/interfaces, if-up/if-down and associated packages
> do a good job here. Is there specific network functionality you have
> in mind not covered by what debian uses by default?
> 
> Greg
> 
> 
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Re: need some accessible command-line tools

[Mike Ray]

Hello,

I'm going to throw in a vote for Emacs/Emacspeak here.  Steep learning 
curve...which some people disagree with but I think it's true.  But when 
you get a handle on the various modes available for editing in different 
formats it is possible to really be productive.

One of the members of Raspberry VI is currently climbing the learning 
curve very quickly and is producing amazing results.

It's possible to launch Emacs/Emacspeak at the start of the day and get 
everything done without leaving it.  Except Javascript enabled web 
browsing perhaps :(

Mike

On 20/06/2013 00:35, Sean Murphy wrote:
> Hi.
>
> Does any one have good documentation on how to understand/use Tshark and TCPDump other then the manual? Even scripts that can extract net flows from the stream of network traffic?
>
> Sean
> On 20/06/2013, at 7:39 AM, Gregory Nowak <greg@gregn.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi Don,
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 02:23:51PM -0700, Don Raikes wrote:
>>> 1.       Pdf to text/html conversion (found pdftohtml, but not pdftotext).
>> On my debian squeeze system, pdftotext is in the poppler-utils package.
>>
>>> 3.       Text-based network management tool.
>>>
>> I think /etc/network/interfaces, if-up/if-down and associated packages
>> do a good job here. Is there specific network functionality you have
>> in mind not covered by what debian uses by default?
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
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Re: need some accessible command-line tools

[Jason White]

Mike Ray <mike@raspberryvi.org> wrote:
> 
> I'm going to throw in a vote for Emacs/Emacspeak here.  Steep
> learning curve...which some people disagree with but I think it's
> true.  But when you get a handle on the various modes available for
> editing in different formats it is possible to really be productive.

I agree that Emacs and Emacspeak make a wonderfully productive working
environment. As for learning, I don't think it's difficult as long as the new
user understands the need for it and works at it systematically. Start with
the built-in tutorial, then learn Info mode and start reading the Emacs
manual, or read it online in a browser. Actually reading it in Emacs and
trying the commands for practice would be better however.

I write all of my work in Emacs, and recommend AUCTeX mode for preparing
documents in LaTeX, which can then be converted to PDF and other formats.
> 
> One of the members of Raspberry VI is currently climbing the
> learning curve very quickly and is producing amazing results.
> 

Excellent.
> It's possible to launch Emacs/Emacspeak at the start of the day and
> get everything done without leaving it.  Except Javascript enabled
> web browsing perhaps :(

For speech output from a browser, there's always ChromeVox, which takes a
similar approach in the browser environment to that which Emacspeak does in
Emacs.

RE: need some accessible command-line tools

[Don Raikes]

I'm going to start working on that soon.
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Subject: Re: need some accessible command-line tools

Hi.

Does any one have good documentation on how to understand/use Tshark and TCPDump other then the manual? Even scripts that can extract net flows from the stream of network traffic?

Sean
On 20/06/2013, at 7:39 AM, Gregory Nowak <greg@gregn.net> wrote:

> Hi Don,
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 02:23:51PM -0700, Don Raikes wrote:
>> 1.       Pdf to text/html conversion (found pdftohtml, but not pdftotext).
> 
> On my debian squeeze system, pdftotext is in the poppler-utils package.
> 
>> 3.       Text-based network management tool.
>> 
> 
> I think /etc/network/interfaces, if-up/if-down and associated packages 
> do a good job here. Is there specific network functionality you have 
> in mind not covered by what debian uses by default?
> 
> Greg
> 
> 
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Re: need some accessible command-line tools

[Willem van der Walt]

Hi,
As part of the kies software I have released a while ago, there is a 
script/program called kies__wifi with which one can scan/configure the 
wifi.
It will list the found networks and allow user-friendly configuration 
which is then written to wpa_supplicant.conf.
It is called as in kies_wifi wlan0 or whatever the wifi interface is 
called.
I would actually like some more people to test this.
Kies can be downloaded at:
ftp://ftp.csir.co.za/MI/National_Accessibility_Portal/wvdwalt/kies-latest.tar.bz2

Kind regards, Willem

On Wed, 19 Jun 2013, Doug Smith wrote:

>
>
> Ok, here's the best answer I can give you.  As far as pdftotext, it is in the poppler-utils package.  I do not know of any kind of command line word
> processor, but there is LaTeX, if that is the way you want to go.  I have never found any kind of good command line network management tool.  That is,
> none of what I have tried has worked.  I have tried wicd-cli, but it refused to even allow the networks in this building to be scanned.  At this time,
> I am using ifupdown suite to do this:
>
> Each connection you have, make a copy of your /etc/network/interfaces for that connection, editing the critical data such as essid and password.  When
> you are at a different location, and you know which connection works best do this:
>
> ifdown wlan0; ifup -i file-for-working-connection wlan0
>
> This uses dhclient to get the addresses and bind to connect it all up.  This is not anything like it's done in the gui world, but I have found no
> network tool that will even work.  Nmcli, for example does not have all the functionality you might need unless someone knows how to use it, and that
> might be of help.  I have never gotten wicd-cli to scan networks and that would help me a lot if that worked, but it doesn't.
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>
>
>
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