From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 4FF271EF56F; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 20:36:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jdc.jasonjgw.net (jdc.jasonjgw.net [IPv6:2001:44b8:412f:6e00::2]) by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B90C81EF08B for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 20:36:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by jdc.jasonjgw.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 435B0180622B2; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 10:36:32 +1000 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=jasonjgw.net; s=mail; t=1371688592; bh=/LIe+MA694limcIS2lx8jHxHvLaB83YhCXforu7YMY4=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=dJA1fB+E5f/YqJvt+QGyTcxLS4jxdm6OiHZAz6iyhWuaROJlFXqn8D+1bH9ek1Va5 VPd2eygSwQM1O1qdIROIWLsvji9+XP0qrHi58/hUPbocuwI0L3eeFaCqO48QQ7kqRD Bk9wS9xj9fE8IATGFd3ce25W7+OoSplUw/C/h0hU= Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 10:36:32 +1000 From: Jason White To: speakup@linux-speakup.org Subject: Re: need some accessible command-line tools Message-ID: <20130620003632.GA7074@jdc.jasonjgw.net> References: <0a742a51-6e1a-4a13-af6d-afb50e79daa4@default> <20130619213942.GA7744@gregn.net> <3578C85A-7B29-456A-AD4A-1D1E10CBE701@gmail.com> <51C24C25.3080207@raspberryvi.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <51C24C25.3080207@raspberryvi.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.2 X-BeenThere: speakup@linux-speakup.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 00:36:41 -0000 Mike Ray wrote: > > I'm going to throw in a vote for Emacs/Emacspeak here. Steep > learning curve...which some people disagree with but I think it's > true. But when you get a handle on the various modes available for > editing in different formats it is possible to really be productive. I agree that Emacs and Emacspeak make a wonderfully productive working environment. As for learning, I don't think it's difficult as long as the new user understands the need for it and works at it systematically. Start with the built-in tutorial, then learn Info mode and start reading the Emacs manual, or read it online in a browser. Actually reading it in Emacs and trying the commands for practice would be better however. I write all of my work in Emacs, and recommend AUCTeX mode for preparing documents in LaTeX, which can then be converted to PDF and other formats. > > One of the members of Raspberry VI is currently climbing the > learning curve very quickly and is producing amazing results. > Excellent. > It's possible to launch Emacs/Emacspeak at the start of the day and > get everything done without leaving it. Except Javascript enabled > web browsing perhaps :( For speech output from a browser, there's always ChromeVox, which takes a similar approach in the browser environment to that which Emacspeak does in Emacs.