* Congratulations to speakup developers and arch architects
@ Chuck Hallenbeck
` Steve Holmes
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Chuck Hallenbeck @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
A routine update just brought my x86-64 system up to kernel 2.6.36
complete with a working speakup, and from a power-off state to speech
onset took a whole 30 seconds. Great job, people, keep up the good
work.
Chuck
--
The Moon is Waning Gibbous (80% of Full)
Website: hallenbeck.ftml.net, Jabber ID: chuckh1@jabber.org
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You're not an alcoholic unless you go to the meetings.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread* Re: Congratulations to speakup developers and arch architects Congratulations to speakup developers and arch architects Chuck Hallenbeck @ ` Steve Holmes ` Øyvind Lode ` Michael Whapples 0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Steve Holmes @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Yes, the updates were smooth as glass. I've usually had no problems with kernel and speakup updates but when they come together, I get a tad nervous but all went fine. On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 07:04:47PM -0500, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote: > A routine update just brought my x86-64 system up to kernel 2.6.36 > complete with a working speakup, and from a power-off state to speech > onset took a whole 30 seconds. Great job, people, keep up the good > work. > > Chuck > > -- > The Moon is Waning Gibbous (80% of Full) > Website: hallenbeck.ftml.net, Jabber ID: chuckh1@jabber.org > -------- > You're not an alcoholic unless you go to the meetings. > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Congratulations to speakup developers and arch architects ` Steve Holmes @ ` Øyvind Lode ` Christopher Brannon ` Michael Whapples 1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Øyvind Lode @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. On 29.11.2010 05:19, Steve Holmes wrote: > Yes, the updates were smooth as glass. I've usually had no problems > with kernel and speakup updates but when they come together, I get a > tad nervous but all went fine. How do I go about installing a new clean Arch system now that Speakup is included in the kernel? Does the wiki page "Arch Linux for the blind" still apply? The wiki page still tells me to install the packages Speakup, eSpeakup etc, but Speakup is now included in the kernel? Just curious since I'm about to install a new Arch system on a new computer I've bought. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Congratulations to speakup developers and arch architects ` Øyvind Lode @ ` Christopher Brannon 0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Christopher Brannon @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Øyvind Lode <oyvind.lode@gmail.com> writes: > How do I go about installing a new clean Arch system now that Speakup > is included in the kernel? It isn't included in 2.6.36. It's only in drivers/staging for 2.6.37-RC1 and later. I don't know whether ArchLinux's 2.6.37 kernel package will include it, since it's still in staging. We'll see what happens, and I'll keep everyone informed as I learn more. If Speakup becomes integrated into the kernel package, my speakup package will just go away, and all of this *should* be transparent to users. Yes, the instructions on the wiki page are still valid. -- Chris ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Congratulations to speakup developers and arch architects ` Steve Holmes ` Øyvind Lode @ ` Michael Whapples ` Steve Holmes 1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Michael Whapples @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I too would say well done to all involved with archlinux and speakup. However my upgrade was slightly less smooth as I use OSS4 for sound and the OSS4 package didn't work with kernel 2.6.36, I had to use oss-hg from AUR but that has a problem with one of my sound cards in this machine. I guess if I had stuck with ALSA everything would have gone without any problems. Michael Whapples On -10/01/37 20:59, Steve Holmes wrote: > Yes, the updates were smooth as glass. I've usually had no problems > with kernel and speakup updates but when they come together, I get a > tad nervous but all went fine. > > On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 07:04:47PM -0500, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote: >> A routine update just brought my x86-64 system up to kernel 2.6.36 >> complete with a working speakup, and from a power-off state to speech >> onset took a whole 30 seconds. Great job, people, keep up the good >> work. >> >> Chuck >> >> -- >> The Moon is Waning Gibbous (80% of Full) >> Website: hallenbeck.ftml.net, Jabber ID: chuckh1@jabber.org >> -------- >> You're not an alcoholic unless you go to the meetings. >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Congratulations to speakup developers and arch architects ` Michael Whapples @ ` Steve Holmes ` Christopher Brannon 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Steve Holmes @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Yeah, I use alsa here and did not have any problems with the most recent changes. As a side note, I just ran the 64bit installer from Chris's site and pretty much followed the instructions to the T and in installs beautifully. My only observation is that the audio was rather low. I could barely hear the speech output. Fortunately, I could alsamixer to turn the volume way up so I could hear better. That was for headphone usage. The speaker was turned way down. So if I didn't have any headphones plugged in, I would have concluded that speech wasn't working. Might wanna turn up the volume a bit and some moe gain to the speaker for the next time something is released. On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 12:44:39PM +0000, Michael Whapples wrote: > I too would say well done to all involved with archlinux and > speakup. However my upgrade was slightly less smooth as I use OSS4 > for sound and the OSS4 package didn't work with kernel 2.6.36, I had > to use oss-hg from AUR but that has a problem with one of my sound > cards in this machine. I guess if I had stuck with ALSA everything > would have gone without any problems. > > Michael Whapples > On -10/01/37 20:59, Steve Holmes wrote: > >Yes, the updates were smooth as glass. I've usually had no problems > >with kernel and speakup updates but when they come together, I get a > >tad nervous but all went fine. > > > >On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 07:04:47PM -0500, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote: > >>A routine update just brought my x86-64 system up to kernel 2.6.36 > >>complete with a working speakup, and from a power-off state to speech > >>onset took a whole 30 seconds. Great job, people, keep up the good > >>work. > >> > >>Chuck > >> > >>-- > >>The Moon is Waning Gibbous (80% of Full) > >> Website: hallenbeck.ftml.net, Jabber ID: chuckh1@jabber.org > >> -------- > >> You're not an alcoholic unless you go to the meetings. > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Speakup mailing list > >>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Congratulations to speakup developers and arch architects ` Steve Holmes @ ` Christopher Brannon ` bardiazakeri 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Christopher Brannon @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Steve Holmes <steve@holmesgrown.com> writes: > My only observation is that the audio was rather low. I > could barely hear the speech output. Fortunately, I could alsamixer > to turn the volume way up so I could hear better. That was for > headphone usage. The speaker was turned way down. So if I didn't > have any headphones plugged in, I would have concluded that speech > wasn't working. The speaker volume is a known issue. If I recall correctly, Speaker isn't even being unmuted in the current editio n. That'll be fixed. There are two distinct complaints about volume. One group says that it is too high, while the other says that it is too low. In the end, I'll probably just set all volumes to 95%. People can lower them, if necessary. In fact, it's really easy to change espeakup's volume, using the keystrokes speakup+1 and speakup+2 (I.E., the standard keys, not the numpad keys). This method sets espeakup's volume, independently of all other audio on the system. -- Chris ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Congratulations to speakup developers and arch architects ` Christopher Brannon @ ` bardiazakeri ` Steve Holmes 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: bardiazakeri @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. hi can you help me for speakup starting ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Congratulations to speakup developers and arch architects ` bardiazakeri @ ` Steve Holmes ` David Csercsics 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Steve Holmes @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup First off, this question is verry vague. What isn't working for you? Are you trying to start an Arch Linux install disk from Chris Brannon's site? Chris, If I recall, the speaker wasn't muted but I had to turn it way up from something like -65 up to 80. It appears that PCM was wound up to 100% - fine. You know, I didn't check the earphone volume setting when I was over there on that laptop. The jacks on the side of the laptop may well be configured to earphone and microphone; I may explore around there a bit more and see if I can come up with some volume settings that might be more appropriate. I realize all sound cards have different control names so it is probably amazing that we get successful sound out of them at all at startup like this. Again, thanks Chris for the fine work. On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 09:32:48PM +0100, bardiazakeri@gmail.com wrote: > hi can you help me for speakup starting > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Congratulations to speakup developers and arch architects ` Steve Holmes @ ` David Csercsics 0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: David Csercsics @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. On 12/7/2010 8:14 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: > explore around there a bit more and see if I can come up with some > volume settings that might be more appropriate. I realize all sound > cards have different control names so it is probably amazing that we > get successful sound out of them at all at startup like this. Again, > thanks Chris for the fine work. Yeah thanks a lot for work like this. I need to see if this boots on the netbook. I would think that setting all controls to -9dB should be reasonable. Except for PCM which you probably want at 0dB that should work ok. Alsa mixer has dbfs readings for all drivers it supports so that should be easy enough to do. Pulseaudio does something similar. You don't want to just crank everything to 95% because on older sound chips that still might make something amplify above 0Dbfs on output which might cause somebody's speakers or headphones to clip and somebody might have ears in a bit of grief. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
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