Congratulations to speakup developers and arch architects

Congratulations to speakup developers and arch architects

[Chuck Hallenbeck]

A routine update just brought my x86-64 system up to kernel 2.6.36
complete with a working speakup, and from a power-off state to speech
onset took a whole 30 seconds. Great job, people, keep up the good
work.

Chuck

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The Moon is Waning Gibbous (80% of Full)
      Website: hallenbeck.ftml.net, Jabber ID: chuckh1@jabber.org
                                --------
         You're not an alcoholic unless you go to the meetings.

Re: Congratulations to speakup developers and arch architects

[Steve Holmes]

Yes, the updates were smooth as glass.  I've usually had no problems
with kernel and speakup updates but when they come together, I get a
tad nervous but all went fine.

On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 07:04:47PM -0500, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote:
> A routine update just brought my x86-64 system up to kernel 2.6.36
> complete with a working speakup, and from a power-off state to speech
> onset took a whole 30 seconds. Great job, people, keep up the good
> work.
> 
> Chuck
> 
> -- 
> The Moon is Waning Gibbous (80% of Full)
>       Website: hallenbeck.ftml.net, Jabber ID: chuckh1@jabber.org
>                                 --------
>          You're not an alcoholic unless you go to the meetings.
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: Congratulations to speakup developers and arch architects

[Øyvind Lode]

On 29.11.2010 05:19, Steve Holmes wrote:
> Yes, the updates were smooth as glass.  I've usually had no problems
> with kernel and speakup updates but when they come together, I get a
> tad nervous but all went fine.

How do I go about installing a new clean Arch system now that Speakup is 
included in the kernel?

Does the wiki page "Arch Linux for the blind" still apply?
The wiki page still tells me to install the packages Speakup, eSpeakup 
etc, but Speakup is now included in the kernel?

Just curious since I'm about to install a new Arch system on a new 
computer I've bought.

Re: Congratulations to speakup developers and arch architects

[Christopher Brannon]

Øyvind Lode <oyvind.lode@gmail.com> writes:

> How do I go about installing a new clean Arch system now that Speakup
> is included in the kernel?

It isn't included in 2.6.36.  It's only in drivers/staging for
2.6.37-RC1 and later.  I don't know whether ArchLinux's 2.6.37 kernel
package will include it, since it's still in staging.  We'll see what
happens, and I'll keep everyone informed as I learn more.  If Speakup
becomes integrated into the kernel package, my speakup package will just
go away, and all of this *should* be transparent to users.

Yes, the instructions on the wiki page are still valid.

-- Chris

Re: Congratulations to speakup developers and arch architects

[Michael Whapples]

I too would say well done to all involved with archlinux and speakup. 
However my upgrade was slightly less smooth as I use OSS4 for sound and 
the OSS4 package didn't work with kernel 2.6.36, I had to use oss-hg 
from AUR but that has a problem with one of my sound cards in this 
machine. I guess if I had stuck with ALSA everything would have gone 
without any problems.

Michael Whapples
On -10/01/37 20:59, Steve Holmes wrote:
> Yes, the updates were smooth as glass.  I've usually had no problems
> with kernel and speakup updates but when they come together, I get a
> tad nervous but all went fine.
>
> On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 07:04:47PM -0500, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote:
>> A routine update just brought my x86-64 system up to kernel 2.6.36
>> complete with a working speakup, and from a power-off state to speech
>> onset took a whole 30 seconds. Great job, people, keep up the good
>> work.
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>> -- 
>> The Moon is Waning Gibbous (80% of Full)
>>        Website: hallenbeck.ftml.net, Jabber ID: chuckh1@jabber.org
>>                                  --------
>>           You're not an alcoholic unless you go to the meetings.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: Congratulations to speakup developers and arch architects

[Steve Holmes]

Yeah, I use alsa here and did not have any problems with the most
recent changes.

As a side note, I just ran the 64bit installer from Chris's site and
pretty much followed the instructions to the T and in installs
beautifully.  My only observation is that the audio was rather low.  I
could barely hear the speech output.  Fortunately, I could alsamixer
to turn the volume way up so I could hear better.  That was for
headphone usage.  The speaker was turned way down.  So if I didn't
have any headphones plugged in, I would have concluded that speech
wasn't working.  Might wanna turn up the volume a bit and some moe
gain to the speaker for the next time something is released.

On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 12:44:39PM +0000, Michael Whapples wrote:
> I too would say well done to all involved with archlinux and
> speakup. However my upgrade was slightly less smooth as I use OSS4
> for sound and the OSS4 package didn't work with kernel 2.6.36, I had
> to use oss-hg from AUR but that has a problem with one of my sound
> cards in this machine. I guess if I had stuck with ALSA everything
> would have gone without any problems.
> 
> Michael Whapples
> On -10/01/37 20:59, Steve Holmes wrote:
> >Yes, the updates were smooth as glass.  I've usually had no problems
> >with kernel and speakup updates but when they come together, I get a
> >tad nervous but all went fine.
> >
> >On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 07:04:47PM -0500, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote:
> >>A routine update just brought my x86-64 system up to kernel 2.6.36
> >>complete with a working speakup, and from a power-off state to speech
> >>onset took a whole 30 seconds. Great job, people, keep up the good
> >>work.
> >>
> >>Chuck
> >>
> >>-- 
> >>The Moon is Waning Gibbous (80% of Full)
> >>       Website: hallenbeck.ftml.net, Jabber ID: chuckh1@jabber.org
> >>                                 --------
> >>          You're not an alcoholic unless you go to the meetings.
> >>_______________________________________________
> >>Speakup mailing list
> >>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> >>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: Congratulations to speakup developers and arch architects

[Christopher Brannon]

Steve Holmes <steve@holmesgrown.com> writes:

> My only observation is that the audio was rather low.  I
> could barely hear the speech output.  Fortunately, I could alsamixer
> to turn the volume way up so I could hear better.  That was for
> headphone usage.  The speaker was turned way down.  So if I didn't
> have any headphones plugged in, I would have concluded that speech
> wasn't working.

The speaker volume is a known issue.  If I recall correctly, Speaker
isn't even being unmuted in the current editio
n.  That'll be fixed.

There are two distinct complaints about volume.  One group says that it
is too high, while the other says that it is too low.
In the end, I'll probably just set all volumes to 95%.  People can lower
them, if necessary.  In fact, it's really easy to change espeakup's
volume, using the keystrokes speakup+1 and speakup+2 (I.E., the standard
keys, not the numpad keys).  This method sets espeakup's volume,
independently of all other audio on the system.

-- Chris

Re: Congratulations to speakup developers and arch architects

[bardiazakeri]

hi can you help me for speakup starting 
 

Re: Congratulations to speakup developers and arch architects

[Steve Holmes]

First off, this question is verry vague.  What isn't working for you?
Are you trying to start an Arch Linux install disk from Chris
Brannon's site?

Chris, If I recall, the speaker wasn't muted but I had to turn it way
up from something like -65 up to 80.  It appears that PCM was wound up
to 100% - fine.  You know, I didn't check the earphone volume setting
when I was over there on that laptop.  The jacks on the side of the
laptop may well be configured to earphone and microphone; I may
explore around there a bit more and see if I can come up with some
volume settings that might be more appropriate.  I realize all sound
cards have different control names so it is probably amazing that we
get successful sound out of them at all at startup like this.  Again,
thanks Chris for the fine work.

On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 09:32:48PM +0100, bardiazakeri@gmail.com wrote:
> hi can you help me for speakup starting
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: Congratulations to speakup developers and arch architects

[David Csercsics]

On 12/7/2010 8:14 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:
> explore around there a bit more and see if I can come up with some
> volume settings that might be more appropriate.  I realize all sound
> cards have different control names so it is probably amazing that we
> get successful sound out of them at all at startup like this.  Again,
> thanks Chris for the fine work.

Yeah thanks a lot for work like this. I need to see if this boots on the 
netbook. I would think that setting all controls to -9dB should be 
reasonable. Except for PCM which you probably want at 0dB that should 
work ok. Alsa mixer has dbfs readings for all drivers it supports so 
that should be easy enough to do. Pulseaudio does something similar. You 
don't want to just crank everything to 95% because on older sound chips 
that still might make something amplify above 0Dbfs on output which 
might cause somebody's speakers or headphones to clip and somebody might 
have ears in a bit of grief.