Adding List Identifier To Subject Lines of List Posts

Adding List Identifier To Subject Lines of List Posts

[Adam MacLeod]

Dear list:
I have only been a member for a very short period of time, but I have a good idea.
I believe that it would be a good idea to add the word Speakup perhaps in brackets to the beginning of all subject lines of all posts to the list. This way, members can filter all posts to the Speakup mailing list, whether they are sent to the list or to the poster themselves.
What do you think? Perhaps to keep list traffic to a minimum on this discussion, you could send replies to me direct.
 Would the mods and admins prefer that I discuss this with them directly?
Has this approach been tried, and abandoned previously?

Regards:
Adam MacLeod
E-mail: adam@adamm.ca
Web site: http://www.adamm.ca/

Re: Adding List Identifier To Subject Lines of List Posts

[Kenny Hitt]

Hi.

There are already headers in mail from the speakup list so procmail can
filter it.  I notice you are running Windows, so I don't know what to
tell you about filtering mail with Outlook express.

Personally, I would find having speakup added to the subject of all
message a useless addition.

          Kenny

On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 06:54:30PM -0500, Adam MacLeod wrote:
> Dear list:
> I have only been a member for a very short period of time, but I have a good idea.
> I believe that it would be a good idea to add the word Speakup perhaps in brackets to the beginning of all subject lines of all posts to the list. This way, members can filter all posts to the Speakup mailing list, whether they are sent to the list or to the poster themselves.
> What do you think? Perhaps to keep list traffic to a minimum on this discussion, you could send replies to me direct.
>  Would the mods and admins prefer that I discuss this with them directly?
> Has this approach been tried, and abandoned previously?
> 
> Regards:
> Adam MacLeod
> E-mail: adam@adamm.ca
> Web site: http://www.adamm.ca/
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: Adding List Identifier To Subject Lines of List Posts

[Littlefield, tyler]

would be kinda annoying to listen to.

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----- Original Message -----
From: Kenny Hitt <kenny@hittsjunk.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: Adding List Identifier To Subject Lines of List Posts


> Hi.
>
> There are already headers in mail from the speakup list so procmail can
> filter it.  I notice you are running Windows, so I don't know what to
> tell you about filtering mail with Outlook express.
>
> Personally, I would find having speakup added to the subject of all
> message a useless addition.
>
>           Kenny
>
> On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 06:54:30PM -0500, Adam MacLeod wrote:
> > Dear list:
> > I have only been a member for a very short period of time, but I have a
good idea.
> > I believe that it would be a good idea to add the word Speakup perhaps
in brackets to the beginning of all subject lines of all posts to the list.
This way, members can filter all posts to the Speakup mailing list, whether
they are sent to the list or to the poster themselves.
> > What do you think? Perhaps to keep list traffic to a minimum on this
discussion, you could send replies to me direct.
> >  Would the mods and admins prefer that I discuss this with them
directly?
> > Has this approach been tried, and abandoned previously?
> >
> > Regards:
> > Adam MacLeod
> > E-mail: adam@adamm.ca
> > Web site: http://www.adamm.ca/
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: Adding List Identifier To Subject Lines of List Posts

[Gregory Nowak]

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I have to concur with Kenny. I personally find lists that have their
name in the subject line to be very annoying. If you want to filter
based on a list, then do that by filtering on the to line, as well as
other info in the headers for this list, as Kenny has said. From what
I can recall, outlook express is capable of doing this. I can't speak
for other windows mail clients though.

Greg



On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 06:03:28PM -0600, Kenny Hitt wrote:
> Hi.
> 
> There are already headers in mail from the speakup list so procmail can
> filter it.  I notice you are running Windows, so I don't know what to
> tell you about filtering mail with Outlook express.
> 
> Personally, I would find having speakup added to the subject of all
> message a useless addition.
> 
>           Kenny
> 
> On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 06:54:30PM -0500, Adam MacLeod wrote:
> > Dear list:
> > I have only been a member for a very short period of time, but I have a good idea.
> > I believe that it would be a good idea to add the word Speakup perhaps in brackets to the beginning of all subject lines of all posts to the list. This way, members can filter all posts to the Speakup mailing list, whether they are sent to the list or to the poster themselves.
> > What do you think? Perhaps to keep list traffic to a minimum on this discussion, you could send replies to me direct.
> >  Would the mods and admins prefer that I discuss this with them directly?
> > Has this approach been tried, and abandoned previously?
> > 
> > Regards:
> > Adam MacLeod
> > E-mail: adam@adamm.ca
> > Web site: http://www.adamm.ca/
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: Adding List Identifier To Subject Lines of List Posts

[Adam MacLeod]

Hi all.
I appreciate the responses thus far.
As I am becoming aware, this list has those who are capable of tact and 
professionalism, and those who have some growing up to do. Gregory's 
response is part of the former category, and I greatly appreciate the advice 
of those who had some to give. For those who would spoute uselessness in an 
untactful way, we know who you are, including the fact that you often write 
to this list with issues that do not directly pertain to the Speakup 
package, wasting everyone's time who have to sort through the junk. But by 
putting your name out there with a response that concerns only your poor 
distaste for the annoyingness of my suggestion without consideration as to 
why I suggested it, you've earned yourself a reputation.. However, your 
response was nonetheless considered, Tyler.

Regards:
Adam MacLeod

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From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: Adding List Identifier To Subject Lines of List Posts


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> I have to concur with Kenny. I personally find lists that have their
> name in the subject line to be very annoying. If you want to filter
> based on a list, then do that by filtering on the to line, as well as
> other info in the headers for this list, as Kenny has said. From what
> I can recall, outlook express is capable of doing this. I can't speak
> for other windows mail clients though.
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 06:03:28PM -0600, Kenny Hitt wrote:
>> Hi.
>>
>> There are already headers in mail from the speakup list so procmail can
>> filter it.  I notice you are running Windows, so I don't know what to
>> tell you about filtering mail with Outlook express.
>>
>> Personally, I would find having speakup added to the subject of all
>> message a useless addition.
>>
>>           Kenny
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 06:54:30PM -0500, Adam MacLeod wrote:
>> > Dear list:
>> > I have only been a member for a very short period of time, but I have a 
>> > good idea.
>> > I believe that it would be a good idea to add the word Speakup perhaps 
>> > in brackets to the beginning of all subject lines of all posts to the 
>> > list. This way, members can filter all posts to the Speakup mailing 
>> > list, whether they are sent to the list or to the poster themselves.
>> > What do you think? Perhaps to keep list traffic to a minimum on this 
>> > discussion, you could send replies to me direct.
>> >  Would the mods and admins prefer that I discuss this with them 
>> > directly?
>> > Has this approach been tried, and abandoned previously?
>> >
>> > Regards:
>> > Adam MacLeod
>> > E-mail: adam@adamm.ca
>> > Web site: http://www.adamm.ca/
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Speakup mailing list
>> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
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Re: Adding List Identifier To Subject Lines of List Posts

[Glenn Ervin]

I must state that I appreciate hearing the source of the message as I arrow 
through the list of messages.
This list does that, and in Windows, Outlook Express, you need to go under 
view to columns, and select the "from" column to be shown.
HTH
Glenn
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From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: Adding List Identifier To Subject Lines of List Posts


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I have to concur with Kenny. I personally find lists that have their
name in the subject line to be very annoying. If you want to filter
based on a list, then do that by filtering on the to line, as well as
other info in the headers for this list, as Kenny has said. From what
I can recall, outlook express is capable of doing this. I can't speak
for other windows mail clients though.

Greg



On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 06:03:28PM -0600, Kenny Hitt wrote:
> Hi.
>
> There are already headers in mail from the speakup list so procmail can
> filter it.  I notice you are running Windows, so I don't know what to
> tell you about filtering mail with Outlook express.
>
> Personally, I would find having speakup added to the subject of all
> message a useless addition.
>
>           Kenny
>
> On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 06:54:30PM -0500, Adam MacLeod wrote:
> > Dear list:
> > I have only been a member for a very short period of time, but I have a 
> > good idea.
> > I believe that it would be a good idea to add the word Speakup perhaps 
> > in brackets to the beginning of all subject lines of all posts to the 
> > list. This way, members can filter all posts to the Speakup mailing 
> > list, whether they are sent to the list or to the poster themselves.
> > What do you think? Perhaps to keep list traffic to a minimum on this 
> > discussion, you could send replies to me direct.
> >  Would the mods and admins prefer that I discuss this with them 
> > directly?
> > Has this approach been tried, and abandoned previously?
> >
> > Regards:
> > Adam MacLeod
> > E-mail: adam@adamm.ca
> > Web site: http://www.adamm.ca/
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: Adding List Identifier To Subject Lines of List Posts

[Michael Whapples]

Another point is that if you can set up a mail filter to take action on 
content of mail, then you can get it to identify speakup list mail by the 
standard footer.

If this proves too much, then the simple method to keep it obvious (and keep 
down traffic) put your mailman options for the list to be digest.

From
Michael Whapples
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kenny Hitt" <kenny@hittsjunk.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 12:03 AM
Subject: Re: Adding List Identifier To Subject Lines of List Posts


> Hi.
>
> There are already headers in mail from the speakup list so procmail can
> filter it.  I notice you are running Windows, so I don't know what to
> tell you about filtering mail with Outlook express.
>
> Personally, I would find having speakup added to the subject of all
> message a useless addition.
>
>          Kenny
>
> On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 06:54:30PM -0500, Adam MacLeod wrote:
>> Dear list:
>> I have only been a member for a very short period of time, but I have a 
>> good idea.
>> I believe that it would be a good idea to add the word Speakup perhaps in 
>> brackets to the beginning of all subject lines of all posts to the list. 
>> This way, members can filter all posts to the Speakup mailing list, 
>> whether they are sent to the list or to the poster themselves.
>> What do you think? Perhaps to keep list traffic to a minimum on this 
>> discussion, you could send replies to me direct.
>>  Would the mods and admins prefer that I discuss this with them directly?
>> Has this approach been tried, and abandoned previously?
>>
>> Regards:
>> Adam MacLeod
>> E-mail: adam@adamm.ca
>> Web site: http://www.adamm.ca/
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
> 

Re: Adding List Identifier To Subject Lines of List Posts

[dan Murphy]

I have used the filters in Outlook Express and frequently have used the 
list name as a filter, so it can be done.
On Thu, 1 Feb 2007, Gregory Nowak 
wrote:

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> I have to concur with Kenny. I personally find lists that have their
> name in the subject line to be very annoying. If you want to filter
> based on a list, then do that by filtering on the to line, as well as
> other info in the headers for this list, as Kenny has said. From what
> I can recall, outlook express is capable of doing this. I can't speak
> for other windows mail clients though.
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 06:03:28PM -0600, Kenny Hitt wrote:
>> Hi.
>>
>> There are already headers in mail from the speakup list so procmail can
>> filter it.  I notice you are running Windows, so I don't know what to
>> tell you about filtering mail with Outlook express.
>>
>> Personally, I would find having speakup added to the subject of all
>> message a useless addition.
>>
>>           Kenny
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 06:54:30PM -0500, Adam MacLeod wrote:
>>> Dear list:
>>> I have only been a member for a very short period of time, but I have a good idea.
>>> I believe that it would be a good idea to add the word Speakup perhaps in brackets to the beginning of all subject lines of all posts to the list. This way, members can filter all posts to the Speakup mailing list, whether they are sent to the list or to the poster themselves.
>>> What do you think? Perhaps to keep list traffic to a minimum on this discussion, you could send replies to me direct.
>>>  Would the mods and admins prefer that I discuss this with them directly?
>>> Has this approach been tried, and abandoned previously?
>>>
>>> Regards:
>>> Adam MacLeod
>>> E-mail: adam@adamm.ca
>>> Web site: http://www.adamm.ca/
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Speakup mailing list
>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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Re: Adding List Identifier To Subject Lines of List Posts

[Steve Holmes]

I do this very thing but since I run a local linux mail server (Exim), I
use its filtering capabilities to sort my mail into folders as you
desire.  I use different header fields from messages of different lists.
Mailman, the lister for Speakup provides some excelent reliable header
fields.  Just open up the full headers and read throu down to the
message body and you'll see what I mean.  I think it is something like
List-Reply-to: or List-Name:; There are several actually.

I also do not like the list name to be embedded in the subject line as
it wastes valuable realestate so to speak.  The list of messages for any
given folder has limitted space for the subject and the list name would
just eat up some of that valuable space, causing more of the subject
line to be truncated.

On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 09:45:41PM -0500, Adam MacLeod wrote:
> The whole reason why I brought this idea up was not to filter based on traffic, but to filter based on a constant characteristic of the mail headers, so that I could have the mail client automatically deliver the messages from the list to a designated folder so that I may sort my mail.
> Thanks to a few helpful hints from some generous respondants, I am on my way to setting up a filter that can do just that without annoying anyone as some put it.
> 
> Regards:
> Adam MacLeod
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 

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Re: Adding List Identifier To Subject Lines of List Posts

[Adam MacLeod]

The whole reason why I brought this idea up was not to filter based on traffic, but to filter based on a constant characteristic of the mail headers, so that I could have the mail client automatically deliver the messages from the list to a designated folder so that I may sort my mail.
Thanks to a few helpful hints from some generous respondants, I am on my way to setting up a filter that can do just that without annoying anyone as some put it.

Regards:
Adam MacLeod