* Re: Adding List Identifier To Subject Lines of List Posts @ Adam MacLeod ` Steve Holmes 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Adam MacLeod @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. The whole reason why I brought this idea up was not to filter based on traffic, but to filter based on a constant characteristic of the mail headers, so that I could have the mail client automatically deliver the messages from the list to a designated folder so that I may sort my mail. Thanks to a few helpful hints from some generous respondants, I am on my way to setting up a filter that can do just that without annoying anyone as some put it. Regards: Adam MacLeod ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Adding List Identifier To Subject Lines of List Posts Adding List Identifier To Subject Lines of List Posts Adam MacLeod @ ` Steve Holmes 0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Steve Holmes @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup I do this very thing but since I run a local linux mail server (Exim), I use its filtering capabilities to sort my mail into folders as you desire. I use different header fields from messages of different lists. Mailman, the lister for Speakup provides some excelent reliable header fields. Just open up the full headers and read throu down to the message body and you'll see what I mean. I think it is something like List-Reply-to: or List-Name:; There are several actually. I also do not like the list name to be embedded in the subject line as it wastes valuable realestate so to speak. The list of messages for any given folder has limitted space for the subject and the list name would just eat up some of that valuable space, causing more of the subject line to be truncated. On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 09:45:41PM -0500, Adam MacLeod wrote: > The whole reason why I brought this idea up was not to filter based on traffic, but to filter based on a constant characteristic of the mail headers, so that I could have the mail client automatically deliver the messages from the list to a designated folder so that I may sort my mail. > Thanks to a few helpful hints from some generous respondants, I am on my way to setting up a filter that can do just that without annoying anyone as some put it. > > Regards: > Adam MacLeod > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- HolmesGrown Solutions The best solutions for the best price! http://holmesgrown.ld.net/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Adding List Identifier To Subject Lines of List Posts @ Adam MacLeod ` Kenny Hitt 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Adam MacLeod @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Dear list: I have only been a member for a very short period of time, but I have a good idea. I believe that it would be a good idea to add the word Speakup perhaps in brackets to the beginning of all subject lines of all posts to the list. This way, members can filter all posts to the Speakup mailing list, whether they are sent to the list or to the poster themselves. What do you think? Perhaps to keep list traffic to a minimum on this discussion, you could send replies to me direct. Would the mods and admins prefer that I discuss this with them directly? Has this approach been tried, and abandoned previously? Regards: Adam MacLeod E-mail: adam@adamm.ca Web site: http://www.adamm.ca/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Adding List Identifier To Subject Lines of List Posts Adam MacLeod @ ` Kenny Hitt ` Littlefield, tyler ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Kenny Hitt @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi. There are already headers in mail from the speakup list so procmail can filter it. I notice you are running Windows, so I don't know what to tell you about filtering mail with Outlook express. Personally, I would find having speakup added to the subject of all message a useless addition. Kenny On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 06:54:30PM -0500, Adam MacLeod wrote: > Dear list: > I have only been a member for a very short period of time, but I have a good idea. > I believe that it would be a good idea to add the word Speakup perhaps in brackets to the beginning of all subject lines of all posts to the list. This way, members can filter all posts to the Speakup mailing list, whether they are sent to the list or to the poster themselves. > What do you think? Perhaps to keep list traffic to a minimum on this discussion, you could send replies to me direct. > Would the mods and admins prefer that I discuss this with them directly? > Has this approach been tried, and abandoned previously? > > Regards: > Adam MacLeod > E-mail: adam@adamm.ca > Web site: http://www.adamm.ca/ > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Adding List Identifier To Subject Lines of List Posts ` Kenny Hitt @ ` Littlefield, tyler ` Gregory Nowak ` Michael Whapples 2 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Littlefield, tyler @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. would be kinda annoying to listen to. Tyler Littlefield Shaned.net customer support and server administrator. Unlimited horizons head coder. check out our website: tysplace.homelinux.net msn: compgeek134@hotmail.com aim: st8amnd2005 skype: st8amnd127 ----- Original Message ----- From: Kenny Hitt <kenny@hittsjunk.net> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 5:03 PM Subject: Re: Adding List Identifier To Subject Lines of List Posts > Hi. > > There are already headers in mail from the speakup list so procmail can > filter it. I notice you are running Windows, so I don't know what to > tell you about filtering mail with Outlook express. > > Personally, I would find having speakup added to the subject of all > message a useless addition. > > Kenny > > On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 06:54:30PM -0500, Adam MacLeod wrote: > > Dear list: > > I have only been a member for a very short period of time, but I have a good idea. > > I believe that it would be a good idea to add the word Speakup perhaps in brackets to the beginning of all subject lines of all posts to the list. This way, members can filter all posts to the Speakup mailing list, whether they are sent to the list or to the poster themselves. > > What do you think? Perhaps to keep list traffic to a minimum on this discussion, you could send replies to me direct. > > Would the mods and admins prefer that I discuss this with them directly? > > Has this approach been tried, and abandoned previously? > > > > Regards: > > Adam MacLeod > > E-mail: adam@adamm.ca > > Web site: http://www.adamm.ca/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Adding List Identifier To Subject Lines of List Posts ` Kenny Hitt ` Littlefield, tyler @ ` Gregory Nowak ` Adam MacLeod ` (2 more replies) ` Michael Whapples 2 siblings, 3 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I have to concur with Kenny. I personally find lists that have their name in the subject line to be very annoying. If you want to filter based on a list, then do that by filtering on the to line, as well as other info in the headers for this list, as Kenny has said. From what I can recall, outlook express is capable of doing this. I can't speak for other windows mail clients though. Greg On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 06:03:28PM -0600, Kenny Hitt wrote: > Hi. > > There are already headers in mail from the speakup list so procmail can > filter it. I notice you are running Windows, so I don't know what to > tell you about filtering mail with Outlook express. > > Personally, I would find having speakup added to the subject of all > message a useless addition. > > Kenny > > On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 06:54:30PM -0500, Adam MacLeod wrote: > > Dear list: > > I have only been a member for a very short period of time, but I have a good idea. > > I believe that it would be a good idea to add the word Speakup perhaps in brackets to the beginning of all subject lines of all posts to the list. This way, members can filter all posts to the Speakup mailing list, whether they are sent to the list or to the poster themselves. > > What do you think? Perhaps to keep list traffic to a minimum on this discussion, you could send replies to me direct. > > Would the mods and admins prefer that I discuss this with them directly? > > Has this approach been tried, and abandoned previously? > > > > Regards: > > Adam MacLeod > > E-mail: adam@adamm.ca > > Web site: http://www.adamm.ca/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup - -- web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) - -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFwo+E7s9z/XlyUyARAupsAKCrMa8u/yo7gx/jL0YGkXSmKIjDIQCZAfOB BVhqljyuavxohoOiawBaO3c= =ECCt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Adding List Identifier To Subject Lines of List Posts ` Gregory Nowak @ ` Adam MacLeod ` Glenn Ervin ` dan Murphy 2 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Adam MacLeod @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi all. I appreciate the responses thus far. As I am becoming aware, this list has those who are capable of tact and professionalism, and those who have some growing up to do. Gregory's response is part of the former category, and I greatly appreciate the advice of those who had some to give. For those who would spoute uselessness in an untactful way, we know who you are, including the fact that you often write to this list with issues that do not directly pertain to the Speakup package, wasting everyone's time who have to sort through the junk. But by putting your name out there with a response that concerns only your poor distaste for the annoyingness of my suggestion without consideration as to why I suggested it, you've earned yourself a reputation.. However, your response was nonetheless considered, Tyler. Regards: Adam MacLeod ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 8:10 PM Subject: Re: Adding List Identifier To Subject Lines of List Posts > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I have to concur with Kenny. I personally find lists that have their > name in the subject line to be very annoying. If you want to filter > based on a list, then do that by filtering on the to line, as well as > other info in the headers for this list, as Kenny has said. From what > I can recall, outlook express is capable of doing this. I can't speak > for other windows mail clients though. > > Greg > > > > On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 06:03:28PM -0600, Kenny Hitt wrote: >> Hi. >> >> There are already headers in mail from the speakup list so procmail can >> filter it. I notice you are running Windows, so I don't know what to >> tell you about filtering mail with Outlook express. >> >> Personally, I would find having speakup added to the subject of all >> message a useless addition. >> >> Kenny >> >> On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 06:54:30PM -0500, Adam MacLeod wrote: >> > Dear list: >> > I have only been a member for a very short period of time, but I have a >> > good idea. >> > I believe that it would be a good idea to add the word Speakup perhaps >> > in brackets to the beginning of all subject lines of all posts to the >> > list. This way, members can filter all posts to the Speakup mailing >> > list, whether they are sent to the list or to the poster themselves. >> > What do you think? Perhaps to keep list traffic to a minimum on this >> > discussion, you could send replies to me direct. >> > Would the mods and admins prefer that I discuss this with them >> > directly? >> > Has this approach been tried, and abandoned previously? >> > >> > Regards: >> > Adam MacLeod >> > E-mail: adam@adamm.ca >> > Web site: http://www.adamm.ca/ >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Speakup mailing list >> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > - -- > web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org > gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc > skype: gregn1 > (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) > > - -- > Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFFwo+E7s9z/XlyUyARAupsAKCrMa8u/yo7gx/jL0YGkXSmKIjDIQCZAfOB > BVhqljyuavxohoOiawBaO3c= > =ECCt > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Adding List Identifier To Subject Lines of List Posts ` Gregory Nowak ` Adam MacLeod @ ` Glenn Ervin ` dan Murphy 2 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Glenn Ervin @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I must state that I appreciate hearing the source of the message as I arrow through the list of messages. This list does that, and in Windows, Outlook Express, you need to go under view to columns, and select the "from" column to be shown. HTH Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 7:10 PM Subject: Re: Adding List Identifier To Subject Lines of List Posts -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I have to concur with Kenny. I personally find lists that have their name in the subject line to be very annoying. If you want to filter based on a list, then do that by filtering on the to line, as well as other info in the headers for this list, as Kenny has said. From what I can recall, outlook express is capable of doing this. I can't speak for other windows mail clients though. Greg On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 06:03:28PM -0600, Kenny Hitt wrote: > Hi. > > There are already headers in mail from the speakup list so procmail can > filter it. I notice you are running Windows, so I don't know what to > tell you about filtering mail with Outlook express. > > Personally, I would find having speakup added to the subject of all > message a useless addition. > > Kenny > > On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 06:54:30PM -0500, Adam MacLeod wrote: > > Dear list: > > I have only been a member for a very short period of time, but I have a > > good idea. > > I believe that it would be a good idea to add the word Speakup perhaps > > in brackets to the beginning of all subject lines of all posts to the > > list. This way, members can filter all posts to the Speakup mailing > > list, whether they are sent to the list or to the poster themselves. > > What do you think? Perhaps to keep list traffic to a minimum on this > > discussion, you could send replies to me direct. > > Would the mods and admins prefer that I discuss this with them > > directly? > > Has this approach been tried, and abandoned previously? > > > > Regards: > > Adam MacLeod > > E-mail: adam@adamm.ca > > Web site: http://www.adamm.ca/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup - -- web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) - -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFwo+E7s9z/XlyUyARAupsAKCrMa8u/yo7gx/jL0YGkXSmKIjDIQCZAfOB BVhqljyuavxohoOiawBaO3c= =ECCt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Adding List Identifier To Subject Lines of List Posts ` Gregory Nowak ` Adam MacLeod ` Glenn Ervin @ ` dan Murphy 2 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: dan Murphy @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I have used the filters in Outlook Express and frequently have used the list name as a filter, so it can be done. On Thu, 1 Feb 2007, Gregory Nowak wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I have to concur with Kenny. I personally find lists that have their > name in the subject line to be very annoying. If you want to filter > based on a list, then do that by filtering on the to line, as well as > other info in the headers for this list, as Kenny has said. From what > I can recall, outlook express is capable of doing this. I can't speak > for other windows mail clients though. > > Greg > > > > On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 06:03:28PM -0600, Kenny Hitt wrote: >> Hi. >> >> There are already headers in mail from the speakup list so procmail can >> filter it. I notice you are running Windows, so I don't know what to >> tell you about filtering mail with Outlook express. >> >> Personally, I would find having speakup added to the subject of all >> message a useless addition. >> >> Kenny >> >> On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 06:54:30PM -0500, Adam MacLeod wrote: >>> Dear list: >>> I have only been a member for a very short period of time, but I have a good idea. >>> I believe that it would be a good idea to add the word Speakup perhaps in brackets to the beginning of all subject lines of all posts to the list. This way, members can filter all posts to the Speakup mailing list, whether they are sent to the list or to the poster themselves. >>> What do you think? Perhaps to keep list traffic to a minimum on this discussion, you could send replies to me direct. >>> Would the mods and admins prefer that I discuss this with them directly? >>> Has this approach been tried, and abandoned previously? >>> >>> Regards: >>> Adam MacLeod >>> E-mail: adam@adamm.ca >>> Web site: http://www.adamm.ca/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Speakup mailing list >>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > - -- > web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org > gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc > skype: gregn1 > (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) > > - -- > Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFFwo+E7s9z/XlyUyARAupsAKCrMa8u/yo7gx/jL0YGkXSmKIjDIQCZAfOB > BVhqljyuavxohoOiawBaO3c= > =ECCt > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Adding List Identifier To Subject Lines of List Posts ` Kenny Hitt ` Littlefield, tyler ` Gregory Nowak @ ` Michael Whapples 2 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Michael Whapples @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Another point is that if you can set up a mail filter to take action on content of mail, then you can get it to identify speakup list mail by the standard footer. If this proves too much, then the simple method to keep it obvious (and keep down traffic) put your mailman options for the list to be digest. From Michael Whapples ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenny Hitt" <kenny@hittsjunk.net> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 12:03 AM Subject: Re: Adding List Identifier To Subject Lines of List Posts > Hi. > > There are already headers in mail from the speakup list so procmail can > filter it. I notice you are running Windows, so I don't know what to > tell you about filtering mail with Outlook express. > > Personally, I would find having speakup added to the subject of all > message a useless addition. > > Kenny > > On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 06:54:30PM -0500, Adam MacLeod wrote: >> Dear list: >> I have only been a member for a very short period of time, but I have a >> good idea. >> I believe that it would be a good idea to add the word Speakup perhaps in >> brackets to the beginning of all subject lines of all posts to the list. >> This way, members can filter all posts to the Speakup mailing list, >> whether they are sent to the list or to the poster themselves. >> What do you think? Perhaps to keep list traffic to a minimum on this >> discussion, you could send replies to me direct. >> Would the mods and admins prefer that I discuss this with them directly? >> Has this approach been tried, and abandoned previously? >> >> Regards: >> Adam MacLeod >> E-mail: adam@adamm.ca >> Web site: http://www.adamm.ca/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
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