* can't get espeak working with speech dispatcher and speechd-up @ Gregory Nowak ` Tyler Spivey ` chuckh 0 siblings, 2 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all. I recently decided to sit down, and to get espeak working with speech dispatcher and speechd-up, since I've been reading so many great messages about it. This is on a system that has run festival and flite with speech dispatcher and speechd-up without any problems up to now. I am using the following: Debian GNU/Linux testing speech-dispatcher 0.6.1-2 speechd-up 0.3-1 espeak 1.11a I'm going to leave out the kernel and speakup versions, since I don't think they're relevant in this situation. My speech-dispatcher.log reads: [Mon Aug 21 18:16:10 2006 : 198574] speechd: Speech Dispatcher Logging to file /var/log/speech-dispatcher/speech-dispatcher.log [Mon Aug 21 18:16:10 2006 : 248193] speechd: Initializing output module espeak-generic with binary /usr/lib/speech-dispatcher-modules//sd_generic and configuration /etc/speech-dispatcher/modules//espeak-generic.conf [Mon Aug 21 18:16:10 2006 : 248473] speechd: Output module is logging to file /var/log/speech-dispatcher/espeak.log [Mon Aug 21 18:16:10 2006 : 254047] speechd: Module espeak-generic loaded. [Mon Aug 21 18:16:10 2006 : 453706] speechd: Module espeak-generic started sucessfully with message: - --------------- Everything ok so far. - --------------- [Mon Aug 21 18:16:10 2006 : 482436] speechd: Reading configuration for pattern emacs:* [Mon Aug 21 18:16:10 2006 : 485440] speechd: Reading configuration for pattern *:gnomespeech:* [Mon Aug 21 18:16:10 2006 : 486079] speechd: Configuration has been read from "/etc/speech-dispatcher//speechd.conf" [Mon Aug 21 18:16:10 2006 : 486669] speechd: Speech Dispatcher started with 1 output module [Mon Aug 21 18:16:10 2006 : 487092] speechd: Openning socket connection [Mon Aug 21 18:16:10 2006 : 492660] speechd: Speech Dispatcher waiting for clients ... My espeak.log file is empty. Speechd-up.log reads: [Mon Aug 21 18:12:59 2006] speechd: Speechd-speakup starts! [Mon Aug 21 18:12:59 2006] speechd: ERROR: [?: this command is not supported] [Mon Aug 21 18:12:59 2006] speechd: ERROR: [y: this command is not supported] [Mon Aug 21 18:12:59 2006] speechd: [volume setting not supported yet] [Mon Aug 21 18:12:59 2006] speechd: [tone setting not supported] [Mon Aug 21 18:12:59 2006] speechd: ERROR: Invalid punctuation mode! [Mon Aug 21 18:12:59 2006] speechd: WARNING: [frequency setting not supported,use rate instead] My espeak-generic.conf is as shipped with speech-dispatcher under debian, except for modifications to the following section: GenericRateAdd 180 GenericPitchAdd 50 GenericVolumeAdd 100 # (These values are multiplied by 100, because DotConf currently # doesn't support floats. So you can write 0.85 as 85 and so on.) GenericRateMultiply 90 GenericPitchMultiply 50 GenericVolumeMultiply 100 These are values that Steve Holmes said work for him in a previous post to this list. The only reason I made these changes is because from what I understand, espeak-generic.conf was written to work with espeak 1.10, and from previous posts to this list, I gathered that changes in espeak 1.11 made the values used in espeak-generic.conf incompatible. If my understanding is incorrect, and my changes to these values is in fact what is causing the problem, then I would appreciate it if someone would please tell me what the original values were, so I can change them back. Typing: speak "this is a test" on the command-line does work, and speaks the typed message. Also, I have aplay installed on this system as well, and it works just fine for playing all other applay-supported sound files, including wav. In case it's not obvious, the problem I'm experiencing here is no speech. If there is some other info I should provide, please let me know what info is needed. Thanks in advance for any help. Greg - -- web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) - -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFE6mg67s9z/XlyUyARAgt5AKC18LvcIczslwXRhmzWy4XjmLWVgQCgvkBM qFhGAdZnzzQoOwSRMVHy5IU= =tJ1f -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: can't get espeak working with speech dispatcher and speechd-up can't get espeak working with speech dispatcher and speechd-up Gregory Nowak @ ` Tyler Spivey ` Gregory Nowak ` chuckh 1 sibling, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: Tyler Spivey @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Can you provide your speechd.conf file? - Tyler ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: can't get espeak working with speech dispatcher and speechd-up ` Tyler Spivey @ ` Gregory Nowak ` Tyler Spivey 0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yes. However, since it is too large to be sent to the list, I've instead posted it at: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/speechd.conf Greg On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 09:34:47PM -0700, Tyler Spivey wrote: > Can you provide your speechd.conf file? > - Tyler > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup - -- web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) - -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFE6p7T7s9z/XlyUyARAphJAKCZquwujwqM8UPj4dZLtpQgU8vTOgCdHZ6V WYef4VBzJldlchkuaKYzFJY= =e3IJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: can't get espeak working with speech dispatcher and speechd-up ` Gregory Nowak @ ` Tyler Spivey ` hanke 0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: Tyler Spivey @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. That looks good. Can you put your espeak-generic.conf file up there as well? It has to be something simple, or there'd be more errors. :) Try doing: speak -w test.wav "some text";aplay test.wav to see if it actually plays. On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 11:06:11PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Yes. However, since it is too large to be sent to the list, I've > instead posted it at: > > http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/speechd.conf > > Greg > > > On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 09:34:47PM -0700, Tyler Spivey wrote: > > Can you provide your speechd.conf file? > > - Tyler > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > - -- > web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org > gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc > skype: gregn1 > (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) > > - -- > Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFE6p7T7s9z/XlyUyARAphJAKCZquwujwqM8UPj4dZLtpQgU8vTOgCdHZ6V > WYef4VBzJldlchkuaKYzFJY= > =e3IJ > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: can't get espeak working with speech dispatcher and speechd-up ` Tyler Spivey @ ` hanke 0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: hanke @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: tspivey, speakup Hi, I think you should switch the debugging on in the espeak-genric.conf file (remove the # sign for comment and switch to one the line with the Debug option). Then examine the espeak generic log file again. If you can't find the problem, also post the log file here. With regards, Hynek Hanke -- Vše pro bydlení, dům a byt on-line. http://im.impact.as/sign/mp-living/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: can't get espeak working with speech dispatcher and speechd-up can't get espeak working with speech dispatcher and speechd-up Gregory Nowak ` Tyler Spivey @ ` chuckh ` Gregory Nowak 1 sibling, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: chuckh @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Greg, I just configured a system similarly with no problems. Did you perchance put the speak command in /usr/local/bin instead of /usr/bin? Typing the speak command on a command line would work either way, but I think speech-dispatcher wants it to be in /usr/bin. -- The Moon is Waning Crescent (1% of Full) Only 10 kinds of people: those who do binary, and those who do not. But you can get a few downloads from http://www.mhcable.com/~chuckh ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: can't get espeak working with speech dispatcher and speechd-up ` chuckh @ ` Gregory Nowak ` Jonathan Duddington 0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Thanks to Tyler S., Hynek, and Chuck in no particular order for your help. When installing espeak, I just copied the espeak-data directory verbatim to /usr/share/, without checking the permissions on the directory or files, assuming they were ok. When testing espeak, I tested it as root, without bothering to check if a normal user could use it also. It turns out that when running espeak as a normal user, it couldn't access the files in /usr/share/espeak-data, and fixing the permissions solved this, and also allowed espeak to be useable with speechd-up. So, that was the problem, which I admit I should have thought of sooner. Also, Chuck was right that the speak binary has to exist in /usr/bin, rather then in /usr/local/bin, however, since I don't like software installed manually to exist outside of /usr/local/, providing the full path to speak in espeak-generic.conf solves that issue, while still allowing speak to remain in /usr/local/bin. Speaking of that, is it possible to specify the path to espeak-data without having to recompile? If not, where in the source can this be changed? I'd like to have espeak-data in /usr/local/share, rather then in /usr/share. I'm writing this message on the machine which I've installed espeak on, and have to side with all the other comments I've seen on this list. The speech quality is very refreshing when compared to festival, flite, and even to the bns. My hat off to Jonathan for such a great software synth, with a small footprint, that sill has lots of potential down the road. Greg On Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 03:02:08PM -0400, chuckh@hhs48.com wrote: > Greg, > > I just configured a system similarly with no problems. Did you perchance > put the speak command in /usr/local/bin instead of /usr/bin? Typing the > speak command on a command line would work either way, but I think > speech-dispatcher wants it to be in /usr/bin. > > -- > The Moon is Waning Crescent (1% of Full) > Only 10 kinds of people: those who do binary, and those who do not. > But you can get a few downloads from http://www.mhcable.com/~chuckh > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup - -- web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) - -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFE62sE7s9z/XlyUyARApWLAKCHKyMj02L+OjEJjHLacBI1j6faoQCggbhH atnMwVbDSJws/KjUg9Xqows= =z0Fw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: can't get espeak working with speech dispatcher and speechd-up ` Gregory Nowak @ ` Jonathan Duddington ` Gregory Nowak 0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: Jonathan Duddington @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. In article <20060822203724.GA32349@localhost.localdomain>, Gregory Nowak <greg@romuald.net.eu.org> wrote: > Speaking of that, is it possible to specify the path to espeak-data > without having to recompile? If not, where in the source can this be > changed? I'd like to have espeak-data in /usr/local/share, rather > then in /usr/share. In the function init_path() in source file speak.cpp (line 157). It looks first in your home directory, and then, if not found, in /usr/share. > The speech quality is very refreshing... An interesting adjective. I'd probably use "sharp" :-) > when compared to festival, flite, and even to the bns. I'm familiar with festival and flight, but I don't know "bns" ? > My hat off to Jonathan for such a great software synth, with a small > footprint, that sill has lots of potential down the road. Let me know what potential you're thinking of. BTW, if anyone wants to assist with another language, please let me know. Willem van der Wald has done a good job with Afrikaans (well, probably, really I've no idea how it's supposed to sound :-) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: can't get espeak working with speech dispatcher and speechd-up ` Jonathan Duddington @ ` Gregory Nowak ` Jonathan Duddington ` gena-j 0 siblings, 2 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 10:14:12PM +0100, Jonathan Duddington wrote: > I'm familiar with festival and flight, but I don't know "bns" ? > Braille 'n Speak, a hardware synth, originally sold by Blazie Engineering, now sold by Freedom Scientific, http://www.freedomscientific.com. > Let me know what potential you're thinking of. > I meant just in general, but some examples are a U.S. accent to the English speech, more voices, and I guess support for more languages just to name a few, though like I said, I think it's very useable now as is. It would also be nice if it were possible to have full numbers pronounced as one-hundred-sixty-eight, instead of one-hundred-and-sixty-eight. Greg - -- web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) - -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFE633o7s9z/XlyUyARAn/GAJ9SOfTtw0icituWJHzpS4FnDcL+qwCgxxio vS4KeCGRbBc4qlR46Tjc0Rg= =Wao3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: can't get espeak working with speech dispatcher and speechd-up ` Gregory Nowak @ ` Jonathan Duddington ` Gregory Nowak ` (2 more replies) ` gena-j 1 sibling, 3 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Jonathan Duddington @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. In article <20060822215800.GA1014@localhost.localdomain>, Gregory Nowak <greg@romuald.net.eu.org> wrote: > I meant just in general, but some examples are a U.S. accent to the > English speech, I don't speak American, so someone else will need to do that :-) > more voices, I wonder whether anyone uses any of the English voice variants other than the standard? Feel free to experiment with attributes in the espeak-data/voices files, as described in docs/voices.html, and let me know if anyone comes up with a good sounding variant. > and I guess support for more languages just to name a few, > though like I said, I think it's very useable now as is. It would also > be nice if it were possible to have full numbers pronounced as > one-hundred-sixty-eight, instead of one-hundred-and-sixty-eight. That's an easy one! Here's a modified espeak-data/en-dict file (for eSpeak version 1.11) that says "one-hundred-sixty-eight". Is that how you say it, or is it just for convenience with being shorter? http://espeak.sourceforge.net/test/numbers_2.zip I don't expect everyone would want it, but there's a mechanism to have variant pronunciations of words, or variant pronunciation rules, controlled by an attribute in a voice file, so I could set that up for numbers in the next release. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: can't get espeak working with speech dispatcher and speechd-up ` Jonathan Duddington @ ` Gregory Nowak ` Gary Cramblitt ` Lorenzo Taylor 2 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 11:39:35PM +0100, Jonathan Duddington wrote: > I wonder whether anyone uses any of the English voice variants other > than the standard? Feel free to experiment with attributes in the > espeak-data/voices files, as described in docs/voices.html, and let > me know if anyone comes up with a good sounding variant. > When I was setting up espeak, I passed the file names in espeak-data/voices/ along with the -v flag to the speak binary. While I could tell that the voices were different, I didn't notice much of a difference, and decided to stick with the standard voice. The standard voice isn't bad, I again suggested more voices as having general potential for espeak's improvement, and not as an implication that the standard voice, or the other voices for that matter were unsatisfactory. > That's an easy one! Here's a modified espeak-data/en-dict file (for > eSpeak version 1.11) that says "one-hundred-sixty-eight". Is that how > you say it, or is it just for convenience with being shorter? > Thanks, that's more like what I'm used to listening. I usually say it as one-sixty-eight, and I might say it sometimes as one-hundred-sixty-eight. I've never said it before though as one-hundred-and-sixty-eight. However, most, if not all synths I've used over the years say full numbers as one-hundred-sixty-eight, so that's what I've become used to listening. Greg - -- web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) - -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFE656x7s9z/XlyUyARAvBLAJ9oHTxPWWmizyLC4TtlDvEKxPP+7QCeLi0K gJ8TXaxDmdIy0AaUDlpVwmg= =Cl1C -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: can't get espeak working with speech dispatcher and speechd-up ` Jonathan Duddington ` Gregory Nowak @ ` Gary Cramblitt ` Jonathan Duddington ` Lorenzo Taylor 2 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: Gary Cramblitt @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup On Tuesday 22 August 2006 18:39, Jonathan Duddington wrote: > In article <20060822215800.GA1014@localhost.localdomain>, > > Gregory Nowak <greg@romuald.net.eu.org> wrote: >> It would also > > be nice if it were possible to have full numbers pronounced as > > one-hundred-sixty-eight, instead of one-hundred-and-sixty-eight. > > That's an easy one! Here's a modified espeak-data/en-dict file (for > eSpeak version 1.11) that says "one-hundred-sixty-eight". Is that how > you say it, or is it just for convenience with being shorter? > > http://espeak.sourceforge.net/test/numbers_2.zip I live in U.S. When I was in grade school, I was taught that inserting "and" into whole numbers is incorrect, especially when speaking money (or writing checks). "and" should be used in place of the decimal point. $168.12 should be spoken "one hundred sixty eight dollars and twelve cents". Not "one hundred and sixty eight dollars and twelve cents". However, one hears this error so often now, FAIK, the rules have changed. -- Gary Cramblitt (aka PhantomsDad) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: can't get espeak working with speech dispatcher and speechd-up ` Gary Cramblitt @ ` Jonathan Duddington ` Michael Whapples ` Gary Cramblitt 0 siblings, 2 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Jonathan Duddington @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup In article <200608230838.01351.garycramblitt@comcast.net>, Gary Cramblitt <garycramblitt@comcast.net> wrote: > I live in U.S. When I was in grade school, I was taught that > inserting "and" into whole numbers is incorrect, especially when > speaking money (or writing checks). "and" should be used in place > of the decimal point. $168.12 should be spoken "one hundred sixty > eight dollars and twelve cents". Interesting. It must be an American thing then :-) How should "102", "112", "1002", and "1023" be spoken? Do any of those include an "and"? I actually say 168 as "a hundred 'n sixty-eight" with a "'n" (syllablic n) sound rather than "and". I could make that change as a compromise. Here, cheques (which I think are equivalent to your "checks") are written as "One hundred and sixty eight". Of course, for an American, there'll be quite a few words with "wrong" pronunciation. Is that annoying? If anyone wants to make a list of alternative rules and exceptions for US pronunciations for the en_rules and en_list files, then I could mark them as "conditional" rules and exceptions which could be activated by an attribute in a voice file. It would be quite a big job to do it thoroughly. That wouldn't give them American vowels and "r" and "t" sounds (which is a different problem), but you could have tomato as "tomayto" instead of "tomarto". ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: can't get espeak working with speech dispatcher and speechd-up ` Jonathan Duddington @ ` Michael Whapples ` Gary Cramblitt 1 sibling, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Michael Whapples @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Its a problem, US and UK pronounciations. For me it is the reverse of the problem below, normally synths are US based, and I am in the UK. I actually get quite annoyed by those US pronounciations, and that is another thing that makes espeak good for me. Probably the only solution that will make all happy about this is to have two seperate languages e.g. enuk and enus. From Michael Whapples Jonathan Duddington writes: > In article <200608230838.01351.garycramblitt@comcast.net>, > Gary Cramblitt <garycramblitt@comcast.net> wrote: > >> I live in U.S. When I was in grade school, I was taught that >> inserting "and" into whole numbers is incorrect, especially when >> speaking money (or writing checks). "and" should be used in place >> of the decimal point. $168.12 should be spoken "one hundred sixty >> eight dollars and twelve cents". > > Interesting. It must be an American thing then :-) > > How should "102", "112", "1002", and "1023" be spoken? Do any of those > include an "and"? > > I actually say 168 as "a hundred 'n sixty-eight" with a "'n" (syllablic > n) sound rather than "and". I could make that change as a compromise. > > Here, cheques (which I think are equivalent to your "checks") are > written as "One hundred and sixty eight". > > Of course, for an American, there'll be quite a few words with "wrong" > pronunciation. Is that annoying? If anyone wants to make a list of > alternative rules and exceptions for US pronunciations for the > en_rules and en_list files, then I could mark them as "conditional" > rules and exceptions which could be activated by an attribute in a > voice file. It would be quite a big job to do it thoroughly. > > That wouldn't give them American vowels and "r" and "t" sounds (which > is a different problem), but you could have tomato as "tomayto" instead > of "tomarto". > > > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: can't get espeak working with speech dispatcher and speechd-up ` Jonathan Duddington ` Michael Whapples @ ` Gary Cramblitt ` Willem van der Walt 1 sibling, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: Gary Cramblitt @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup On Wednesday 23 August 2006 09:19, Jonathan Duddington wrote: > In article <200608230838.01351.garycramblitt@comcast.net>, > > Gary Cramblitt <garycramblitt@comcast.net> wrote: > > I live in U.S. When I was in grade school, I was taught that > > inserting "and" into whole numbers is incorrect, especially when > > speaking money (or writing checks). "and" should be used in place > > of the decimal point. $168.12 should be spoken "one hundred sixty > > eight dollars and twelve cents". > > Interesting. It must be an American thing then :-) Yes, but one hears it spoken incorrectly all the time (with the extra "and"), so I don't think anyone would object if you left them in. > > How should "102", "112", "1002", and "1023" be spoken? Do any of those > include an "and"? No. "one hundred two", "one hundred twelve", "one thousand two", "one thousand twenty-three". I don't feel strongly about this issue either way. Do what you think is right. -- Gary Cramblitt (aka PhantomsDad) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: can't get espeak working with speech dispatcher and speechd-up ` Gary Cramblitt @ ` Willem van der Walt 0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Willem van der Walt @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. In South African English, we would normaly use the and like 102 is one hundred and two, 1234 is one thousand two hundred and thirty four. Regards, Willem On Wed, 23 Aug 2006, Gary Cramblitt wrote: > On Wednesday 23 August 2006 09:19, Jonathan Duddington wrote: >> In article <200608230838.01351.garycramblitt@comcast.net>, >> >> Gary Cramblitt <garycramblitt@comcast.net> wrote: >>> I live in U.S. When I was in grade school, I was taught that >>> inserting "and" into whole numbers is incorrect, especially when >>> speaking money (or writing checks). "and" should be used in place >>> of the decimal point. $168.12 should be spoken "one hundred sixty >>> eight dollars and twelve cents". >> >> Interesting. It must be an American thing then :-) > > Yes, but one hears it spoken incorrectly all the time (with the extra "and"), > so I don't think anyone would object if you left them in. > >> >> How should "102", "112", "1002", and "1023" be spoken? Do any of those >> include an "and"? > > No. "one hundred two", "one hundred twelve", "one thousand two", "one > thousand twenty-three". > > I don't feel strongly about this issue either way. Do what you think is > right. > > -- > Gary Cramblitt (aka PhantomsDad) > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- This message is subject to the CSIR's copyright, terms and conditions and e-mail legal notice. Views expressed herein do not necessarily represent the views of the CSIR. CSIR E-mail Legal Notice http://mail.csir.co.za/CSIR_eMail_Legal_Notice.html CSIR Copyright, Terms and Conditions http://mail.csir.co.za/CSIR_Copyright.html For electronic copies of the CSIR Copyright, Terms and Conditions and the CSIR Legal Notice send a blank message with REQUEST LEGAL in the subject line to CallCentre@csir.co.za. This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks Transtec Computers for their support. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: can't get espeak working with speech dispatcher and speechd-up ` Jonathan Duddington ` Gregory Nowak ` Gary Cramblitt @ ` Lorenzo Taylor ` Steve Holmes 2 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: Lorenzo Taylor @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I am American, but I personally like the UK english of eSpeak. It's much better than the British English Viavoice or IBMTTS or Elloquence or whatever they are calling it now, at least in my opinion. Lorenzo - -- Unless hours were cups of sack, and minutes capons, and clocks the tongues of bawds, and dials the signs of leaping houses, and the blessed sun himself a fair, hot wench in flame-colored taffeta, I see no reason why thou shouldst be so superfluous to demand the time of the day. I wasted time and now doth time waste me. -- William Shakespeare -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFE7JXEG9IpekrhBfIRAhnHAKCss9+/tBcbiPHFVOxDaz1aZW1bogCfRZGJ QZ0Ab+1258mhLb6wmTtpUfc= =+57F -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: can't get espeak working with speech dispatcher and speechd-up ` Lorenzo Taylor @ ` Steve Holmes ` Jonathan Duddington 0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: Steve Holmes @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 I've never looked at the speech configuration for pronunciation. What is the easiest to get started to understand it? I might wanna fix some of the words. On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 01:52:04PM -0400, Lorenzo Taylor wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I am American, but I personally like the UK english of eSpeak. It's > much better than the British English Viavoice or IBMTTS or Elloquence or > whatever they are calling it now, at least in my opinion. > > Lorenzo > - -- > Unless hours were cups of sack, and minutes capons, and clocks the tongues > of bawds, and dials the signs of leaping houses, and the blessed sun himself > a fair, hot wench in flame-colored taffeta, I see no reason why thou shouldst > be so superfluous to demand the time of the day. I wasted time and now doth > time waste me. > -- William Shakespeare > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFE7JXEG9IpekrhBfIRAhnHAKCss9+/tBcbiPHFVOxDaz1aZW1bogCfRZGJ > QZ0Ab+1258mhLb6wmTtpUfc= > =+57F > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > - -- HolmesGrown Solutions The best solutions for the best price! http://holmesgrown.ld.net/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFE7LAcWSjv55S0LfERA+tkAKC+gWIJ5cxTDat18ZRNnuKsjdTuUACeOabM +7qz5Zkw9EeLLgCvNRnxsWI= =JIla -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: can't get espeak working with speech dispatcher and speechd-up ` Steve Holmes @ ` Jonathan Duddington 0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Jonathan Duddington @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. In article <20060823194428.GD3366@lnx3.holmesgrown.com>, Steve Holmes <steve@holmesgrown.com> wrote: > I've never looked at the speech configuration for pronunciation. What > is the easiest to get started to understand it? I might wanna fix some > of the words. Pronunciation rules are in: en_rules. Exception words are in: en_list. You can add your own exceptions list, without disturbing the "official" file by putting them in en_extra rather than en_list. Details are in the file: docs/dictionary.html The command: speak --compile=en compiles en_rules, en_list, and en_extra (if it exists) and produces a new version of espeak-data/en-dict which is used by the speak program. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: can't get espeak working with speech dispatcher and speechd-up ` Gregory Nowak ` Jonathan Duddington @ ` gena-j 1 sibling, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: gena-j @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. On Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 02:58:00PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: > > I meant just in general, but some examples are a U.S. accent to the > English speech, more > voices, and I guess support for more languages just to name a few, Too many U.S. artificial voices, no more please! <smile> Gena > though like I said, I think it's very useable now as is. It would also > be nice if it were possible to have full numbers pronounced as > one-hundred-sixty-eight, instead of one-hundred-and-sixty-eight. > > Greg > > > > > - -- > web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org > gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc > skype: gregn1 > (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) > > - -- > Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFE633o7s9z/XlyUyARAn/GAJ9SOfTtw0icituWJHzpS4FnDcL+qwCgxxio > vS4KeCGRbBc4qlR46Tjc0Rg= > =Wao3 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ---end quoted text--- -- Wow! Linux From Scratch ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
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