moving contents from one drive to another

moving contents from one drive to another

[Scott Howell]

Folks,someone has asked if I could take their winblows drive and move  
the entire contents over to a new drive. The old drive is not in the  
best of health. Is there a utility that would move the entire  
contents including boot info so fdisk would not have to be used to  
restore the boot record? The drives are of different sizes.

tnx

Re: moving contents from one drive to another

[Adam Myrow]

I did this once with GNU Parted.  As I recall, both drives have to have 
the same cluster size, and I think it only works with FAT/FAT32, not NTFS. 
There are probably some  commercial products capable of this as well.  In 
a real pinch, you could probably use dd to do it, but the new drive would 
be a mirror image of the old.  Thus, it would have the same amount of free 
space as the old drive.

Re: moving contents from one drive to another

[Scott Howell]

Thanks, that is why I didn't want to use dd, they don't want to give  
up the space, but it could probably be partitioned
  and used. Well ay worse comes to worse, can do a fresh install  
which wouldn't be a bad thing either. Better yet, should just put  
Linux on there and their life would be soooo much easier...grin

On Dec 31, 2005, at 7:39 AM, Adam Myrow wrote:

> I did this once with GNU Parted.  As I recall, both drives have to  
> have the same cluster size, and I think it only works with FAT/ 
> FAT32, not NTFS. There are probably some  commercial products  
> capable of this as well.  In a real pinch, you could probably use  
> dd to do it, but the new drive would be a mirror image of the old.   
> Thus, it would have the same amount of free space as the old drive.
>

RE: moving contents from one drive to another

[Steve Dawes]

why not use dd


Steve



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Subject: moving contents from one drive to another


Folks,someone has asked if I could take their winblows drive and move  
the entire contents over to a new drive. The old drive is not in the  
best of health. Is there a utility that would move the entire  
contents including boot info so fdisk would not have to be used to  
restore the boot record? The drives are of different sizes.

tnx


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RE: moving contents from one drive to another

[Steve Dawes]

ghost will do what you want to do, and then you can either create a second
partition or increase the initial partition when all is done.


Steve



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Subject: moving contents from one drive to another


Folks,someone has asked if I could take their winblows drive and move
the entire contents over to a new drive. The old drive is not in the
best of health. Is there a utility that would move the entire
contents including boot info so fdisk would not have to be used to
restore the boot record? The drives are of different sizes.

tnx


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Re: moving contents from one drive to another

[Scott Howell]

Because DD assumes that both drives are the same size. You wouldn't  
want to dd 3Gb of contents on to a 20Gb drive. I don't know of an  
effective way to get around this.


Scott



On Jan 2, 2006, at 11:17 AM, Steve Dawes wrote:

> why not use dd
>
>
> Steve
>
>
>
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> Subject: moving contents from one drive to another
>
>
> Folks,someone has asked if I could take their winblows drive and move
> the entire contents over to a new drive. The old drive is not in the
> best of health. Is there a utility that would move the entire
> contents including boot info so fdisk would not have to be used to
> restore the boot record? The drives are of different sizes.
>
> tnx
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Re: moving contents from one drive to another

[Scott Howell]

Yes, but I haven't Ghost. Perhaps there's an open source program taht  
would do the same thing.


Scott



On Jan 2, 2006, at 11:19 AM, Steve Dawes wrote:

> ghost will do what you want to do, and then you can either create a  
> second
> partition or increase the initial partition when all is done.
>
>
> Steve
>
>
>
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> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: moving contents from one drive to another
>
>
> Folks,someone has asked if I could take their winblows drive and move
> the entire contents over to a new drive. The old drive is not in the
> best of health. Is there a utility that would move the entire
> contents including boot info so fdisk would not have to be used to
> restore the boot record? The drives are of different sizes.
>
> tnx
>
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Re: moving contents from one drive to another

[Gregory Nowak]

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Yes, partition image <http://www.partimage.org/> is the free software
alternative to ghost.

I've actually had to move a ntfs file system from one drive to another
once. What I did is backup the old partition with partimage,
partitioned the new drive with cfdisk to have the first partition take
up all the space, restored the backup I made with partimage on to the
new drive, and resized the file system to fully fit the new partition
using a ntfs resize program that comes with the ntfsprogs
package. Hth.

Greg



On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 04:52:29AM -0500, Scott Howell wrote:
> Yes, but I haven't Ghost. Perhaps there's an open source program taht  
> would do the same thing.
> 
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
> 

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Re: moving contents from one drive to another

[Scott Howell]

Thanks for the info all you good folks. Steve that does sound like  
one hell of a trick, will have to look at taht as well as  
partitionimage. I thik I have that around here, but surely have dd on  
the box..grin. Well ay the machine will be for my son as I got my  
wife and myself Macs so there ya go.



Scott



On Jan 3, 2006, at 10:57 AM, Dawes, Stephen wrote:

> OK,
> Create a 3gb partition on the new drive.
> Format it.
> Copy all files from the one drive to the other, using cp -a
> Now for the fun part.
> DD the first master record of the old drive on to the new drive.
>
> Note, do all the copying of files through linux because Windows has
> hidden files that LINUX sees.
>
> This should work.
>
> Also do a google on "stupid dd tricks"
> It was an excellent article on how the author used dd to do what  
> you are
> trying to do, if I am reading your thread correctly.
> The author didn't want to use ghost because of the licensing issues  
> and
> yet he had to create a number of computers with an imaging process.
> If you can't find the article, I may have it around here somewhere.
>
>
> Steve Dawes
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> Email: SDawes@calgary.ca
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RE: moving contents from one drive to another

[Dawes, Stephen]

OK, 
Create a 3gb partition on the new drive. 
Format it. 
Copy all files from the one drive to the other, using cp -a
Now for the fun part.
DD the first master record of the old drive on to the new drive. 

Note, do all the copying of files through linux because Windows has
hidden files that LINUX sees.

This should work. 

Also do a google on "stupid dd tricks"
It was an excellent article on how the author used dd to do what you are
trying to do, if I am reading your thread correctly. 
The author didn't want to use ghost because of the licensing issues and
yet he had to create a number of computers with an imaging process.
If you can't find the article, I may have it around here somewhere. 


Steve Dawes
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