Gnoppernicus and remote?

Gnoppernicus and remote?

[Sina Bahram]

Hi guys,

I hope all are well today.

Here's the question: I want to know if it's possible to set up a system such
that I can remotely access the linux box, x11 and all, and run gnoppernicus
in gnome?

I basically want to do what is availible with WinEyes and winXP's remote
desktop feature...but with linux and gnome with gnoppernicus.

Take care,
Sina

No trees were destroyed in sending this message; however, a large number of
electrons were terribly inconvenienced. 

Re: Gnoppernicus and remote?

[Alex Snow]

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I know you can run an x session remotely (that's been part of x for 
years) but I'm not sure how gnopernicus would like that...I think it'd 
work. I have no idea how you'd set that up though, however I saw 
something on doing it over ssh at one time but I forget where.
On Fri, 
Aug 27, 2004 at 02:59:16PM -0400, Sina Bahram wrote:
> Hi guys,
> 
> I hope all are well today.
> 
> Here's the question: I want to know if it's possible to set up a system such
> that I can remotely access the linux box, x11 and all, and run gnoppernicus
> in gnome?
> 
> I basically want to do what is availible with WinEyes and winXP's remote
> desktop feature...but with linux and gnome with gnoppernicus.
> 
> Take care,
> Sina
> 
> No trees were destroyed in sending this message; however, a large number of
> electrons were terribly inconvenienced. 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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RE: Gnoppernicus and remote?

[Sina Bahram]

So I could pipe both the sound from and the x session itself, over SSH?

Wouldn't there then be some lag in gnoppernicus's output?

I believe what WinEyes, and soon to be Jaws, does is send the text to be
spoken over the network, and then let the client speak it....this way we're
just sending little packets of ascii, which can fly.

If I have to pipe the actual sound from gnoppernicus, I'm thinking there
will be some serious lag?

Take care,
Sina

No trees were destroyed in sending this message; however, a large number of
electrons were terribly inconvenienced. 
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From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Alex Snow
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 4:50 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: Gnoppernicus and remote?

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I know you can run an x session remotely (that's been part of x for
years) but I'm not sure how gnopernicus would like that...I think it'd work.
I have no idea how you'd set that up though, however I saw something on
doing it over ssh at one time but I forget where.
On Fri,
Aug 27, 2004 at 02:59:16PM -0400, Sina Bahram wrote:
> Hi guys,
> 
> I hope all are well today.
> 
> Here's the question: I want to know if it's possible to set up a 
> system such that I can remotely access the linux box, x11 and all, and 
> run gnoppernicus in gnome?
> 
> I basically want to do what is availible with WinEyes and winXP's 
> remote desktop feature...but with linux and gnome with gnoppernicus.
> 
> Take care,
> Sina
> 
> No trees were destroyed in sending this message; however, a large 
> number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: Gnoppernicus and remote?

[Kenny Hitt]

Hi.  I only played with this once for a few minutes.  I used XDMCP
instead of ssh.  Doing it this way meant the only thing running om my
work station was the X server.  All other apps including gnopernicus ran
on the other system.  Gnopernicus used the other system's sound card
instead of my work station's sound card.  This should be expected.
WARNING!  XDMCP isn't secure.  I did this on my local network and made
sure nothing could se the XDMCP ports from the internet.

I haven't tried using ssh, but you will probably need to have
Gnopernicus running on your work station to get it working.  Start an X
session on the local box with Gnopernicus, metacity, and a gnome
terminal.  In the gnome terminal, ssh to the other box and start a gnome
session.  This way, Gnopernicus will speak on your local work station
and the gnome session will run on the remote box.

Try playing with it and let us know what happens.
          Kenny
	  
On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 05:55:23PM -0400, Sina Bahram wrote:
> So I could pipe both the sound from and the x session itself, over SSH?
> 
> Wouldn't there then be some lag in gnoppernicus's output?
> 
> I believe what WinEyes, and soon to be Jaws, does is send the text to be
> spoken over the network, and then let the client speak it....this way we're
> just sending little packets of ascii, which can fly.
> 
> If I have to pipe the actual sound from gnoppernicus, I'm thinking there
> will be some serious lag?
> 
> Take care,
> Sina
> 
> No trees were destroyed in sending this message; however, a large number of
> electrons were terribly inconvenienced. 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Alex Snow
> Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 4:50 PM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: Gnoppernicus and remote?
> 
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> 
> I know you can run an x session remotely (that's been part of x for
> years) but I'm not sure how gnopernicus would like that...I think it'd work.
> I have no idea how you'd set that up though, however I saw something on
> doing it over ssh at one time but I forget where.
> On Fri,
> Aug 27, 2004 at 02:59:16PM -0400, Sina Bahram wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> > 
> > I hope all are well today.
> > 
> > Here's the question: I want to know if it's possible to set up a 
> > system such that I can remotely access the linux box, x11 and all, and 
> > run gnoppernicus in gnome?
> > 
> > I basically want to do what is availible with WinEyes and winXP's 
> > remote desktop feature...but with linux and gnome with gnoppernicus.
> > 
> > Take care,
> > Sina
> > 
> > No trees were destroyed in sending this message; however, a large 
> > number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
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> 	-- David Black, dblack@pilot.njin.net, with apologies to Derek and
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RE: Gnoppernicus and remote?

[Sina Bahram]

But gnoppernicus won't have access to the remote apps...so how could the
local copy speak their info?

And also, did you notice any lag, when you did it your way?

Take care,
Sina

No trees were destroyed in sending this message; however, a large number of
electrons were terribly inconvenienced. 
-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Kenny Hitt
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 6:48 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: Gnoppernicus and remote?

Hi.  I only played with this once for a few minutes.  I used XDMCP instead
of ssh.  Doing it this way meant the only thing running om my work station
was the X server.  All other apps including gnopernicus ran on the other
system.  Gnopernicus used the other system's sound card instead of my work
station's sound card.  This should be expected.
WARNING!  XDMCP isn't secure.  I did this on my local network and made sure
nothing could se the XDMCP ports from the internet.

I haven't tried using ssh, but you will probably need to have Gnopernicus
running on your work station to get it working.  Start an X session on the
local box with Gnopernicus, metacity, and a gnome terminal.  In the gnome
terminal, ssh to the other box and start a gnome session.  This way,
Gnopernicus will speak on your local work station and the gnome session will
run on the remote box.

Try playing with it and let us know what happens.
          Kenny
	  
On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 05:55:23PM -0400, Sina Bahram wrote:
> So I could pipe both the sound from and the x session itself, over SSH?
> 
> Wouldn't there then be some lag in gnoppernicus's output?
> 
> I believe what WinEyes, and soon to be Jaws, does is send the text to 
> be spoken over the network, and then let the client speak it....this 
> way we're just sending little packets of ascii, which can fly.
> 
> If I have to pipe the actual sound from gnoppernicus, I'm thinking 
> there will be some serious lag?
> 
> Take care,
> Sina
> 
> No trees were destroyed in sending this message; however, a large 
> number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca 
> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Alex Snow
> Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 4:50 PM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: Gnoppernicus and remote?
> 
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> 
> I know you can run an x session remotely (that's been part of x for
> years) but I'm not sure how gnopernicus would like that...I think it'd
work.
> I have no idea how you'd set that up though, however I saw something 
> on doing it over ssh at one time but I forget where.
> On Fri,
> Aug 27, 2004 at 02:59:16PM -0400, Sina Bahram wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> > 
> > I hope all are well today.
> > 
> > Here's the question: I want to know if it's possible to set up a 
> > system such that I can remotely access the linux box, x11 and all, 
> > and run gnoppernicus in gnome?
> > 
> > I basically want to do what is availible with WinEyes and winXP's 
> > remote desktop feature...but with linux and gnome with gnoppernicus.
> > 
> > Take care,
> > Sina
> > 
> > No trees were destroyed in sending this message; however, a large 
> > number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
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> 	-- David Black, dblack@pilot.njin.net, with apologies to Derek and 
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Re: Gnoppernicus and remote?

[Alex Snow]

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you wouldn't be piping the actual sound...you'd be using the x11 
protocol over the network. I think that's how it works...
On Fri, Aug 27, 
2004 at 05:55:23PM -0400, Sina Bahram wrote:
> So I could pipe both the sound from and the x session itself, over SSH?
> 
> Wouldn't there then be some lag in gnoppernicus's output?
> 
> I believe what WinEyes, and soon to be Jaws, does is send the text to be
> spoken over the network, and then let the client speak it....this way we're
> just sending little packets of ascii, which can fly.
> 
> If I have to pipe the actual sound from gnoppernicus, I'm thinking there
> will be some serious lag?
> 
> Take care,
> Sina
> 
> No trees were destroyed in sending this message; however, a large number of
> electrons were terribly inconvenienced. 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Alex Snow
> Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 4:50 PM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: Gnoppernicus and remote?
> 
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> I know you can run an x session remotely (that's been part of x for
> years) but I'm not sure how gnopernicus would like that...I think it'd work.
> I have no idea how you'd set that up though, however I saw something on
> doing it over ssh at one time but I forget where.
> On Fri,
> Aug 27, 2004 at 02:59:16PM -0400, Sina Bahram wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> > 
> > I hope all are well today.
> > 
> > Here's the question: I want to know if it's possible to set up a 
> > system such that I can remotely access the linux box, x11 and all, and 
> > run gnoppernicus in gnome?
> > 
> > I basically want to do what is availible with WinEyes and winXP's 
> > remote desktop feature...but with linux and gnome with gnoppernicus.
> > 
> > Take care,
> > Sina
> > 
> > No trees were destroyed in sending this message; however, a large 
> > number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
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Re: Gnoppernicus and remote?

[Alex Snow]

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the soundcard thing can be fixed by installing a network sound 
daemon...If you want I can look up that particular piece of software.
On 
Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 05:47:34PM -0500, Kenny Hitt wrote:
> Hi.  I only played with this once for a few minutes.  I used XDMCP
> instead of ssh.  Doing it this way meant the only thing running om my
> work station was the X server.  All other apps including gnopernicus ran
> on the other system.  Gnopernicus used the other system's sound card
> instead of my work station's sound card.  This should be expected.
> WARNING!  XDMCP isn't secure.  I did this on my local network and made
> sure nothing could se the XDMCP ports from the internet.
> 
> I haven't tried using ssh, but you will probably need to have
> Gnopernicus running on your work station to get it working.  Start an X
> session on the local box with Gnopernicus, metacity, and a gnome
> terminal.  In the gnome terminal, ssh to the other box and start a gnome
> session.  This way, Gnopernicus will speak on your local work station
> and the gnome session will run on the remote box.
> 
> Try playing with it and let us know what happens.
>           Kenny
> 	  
> On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 05:55:23PM -0400, Sina Bahram wrote:
> > So I could pipe both the sound from and the x session itself, over SSH?
> > 
> > Wouldn't there then be some lag in gnoppernicus's output?
> > 
> > I believe what WinEyes, and soon to be Jaws, does is send the text to be
> > spoken over the network, and then let the client speak it....this way we're
> > just sending little packets of ascii, which can fly.
> > 
> > If I have to pipe the actual sound from gnoppernicus, I'm thinking there
> > will be some serious lag?
> > 
> > Take care,
> > Sina
> > 
> > No trees were destroyed in sending this message; however, a large number of
> > electrons were terribly inconvenienced. 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> > On Behalf Of Alex Snow
> > Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 4:50 PM
> > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> > Subject: Re: Gnoppernicus and remote?
> > 
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> > 
> > I know you can run an x session remotely (that's been part of x for
> > years) but I'm not sure how gnopernicus would like that...I think it'd work.
> > I have no idea how you'd set that up though, however I saw something on
> > doing it over ssh at one time but I forget where.
> > On Fri,
> > Aug 27, 2004 at 02:59:16PM -0400, Sina Bahram wrote:
> > > Hi guys,
> > > 
> > > I hope all are well today.
> > > 
> > > Here's the question: I want to know if it's possible to set up a 
> > > system such that I can remotely access the linux box, x11 and all, and 
> > > run gnoppernicus in gnome?
> > > 
> > > I basically want to do what is availible with WinEyes and winXP's 
> > > remote desktop feature...but with linux and gnome with gnoppernicus.
> > > 
> > > Take care,
> > > Sina
> > > 
> > > No trees were destroyed in sending this message; however, a large 
> > > number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > 
> > - --
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> > 	-- David Black, dblack@pilot.njin.net, with apologies to Derek and
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> > 
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RE: Gnoppernicus and remote?

[Sina Bahram]

 
Thus sending the sound? or only sending what sound to be played?

Take care,
Sina

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electrons were terribly inconvenienced. 
-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Alex Snow
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 10:51 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: Gnoppernicus and remote?

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you wouldn't be piping the actual sound...you'd be using the x11 protocol
over the network. I think that's how it works...
On Fri, Aug 27,
2004 at 05:55:23PM -0400, Sina Bahram wrote:
> So I could pipe both the sound from and the x session itself, over SSH?
> 
> Wouldn't there then be some lag in gnoppernicus's output?
> 
> I believe what WinEyes, and soon to be Jaws, does is send the text to 
> be spoken over the network, and then let the client speak it....this 
> way we're just sending little packets of ascii, which can fly.
> 
> If I have to pipe the actual sound from gnoppernicus, I'm thinking 
> there will be some serious lag?
> 
> Take care,
> Sina
> 
> No trees were destroyed in sending this message; however, a large 
> number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca 
> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Alex Snow
> Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 4:50 PM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: Gnoppernicus and remote?
> 
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> I know you can run an x session remotely (that's been part of x for
> years) but I'm not sure how gnopernicus would like that...I think it'd
work.
> I have no idea how you'd set that up though, however I saw something 
> on doing it over ssh at one time but I forget where.
> On Fri,
> Aug 27, 2004 at 02:59:16PM -0400, Sina Bahram wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> > 
> > I hope all are well today.
> > 
> > Here's the question: I want to know if it's possible to set up a 
> > system such that I can remotely access the linux box, x11 and all, 
> > and run gnoppernicus in gnome?
> > 
> > I basically want to do what is availible with WinEyes and winXP's 
> > remote desktop feature...but with linux and gnome with gnoppernicus.
> > 
> > Take care,
> > Sina
> > 
> > No trees were destroyed in sending this message; however, a large 
> > number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> - --
> LILO, you've got me on my knees!
> 	-- David Black, dblack@pilot.njin.net, with apologies to Derek and 
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Re: Gnoppernicus and remote?

[Alex Snow]

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I think it only sends what sound it needs to play. and seeing how 
small the sounds are, and if you're on a 100mbps network, you 
shouldn't see a lag.
On Sat, Aug 28, 2004 at 01:55:59AM -0400, Sina 
Bahram wrote:
>  
> Thus sending the sound? or only sending what sound to be played?
> 
> Take care,
> Sina
> 
> No trees were destroyed in sending this message; however, a large number of
> electrons were terribly inconvenienced. 
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> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Alex Snow
> Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 10:51 PM
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> you wouldn't be piping the actual sound...you'd be using the x11 protocol
> over the network. I think that's how it works...
> On Fri, Aug 27,
> 2004 at 05:55:23PM -0400, Sina Bahram wrote:
> > So I could pipe both the sound from and the x session itself, over SSH?
> > 
> > Wouldn't there then be some lag in gnoppernicus's output?
> > 
> > I believe what WinEyes, and soon to be Jaws, does is send the text to 
> > be spoken over the network, and then let the client speak it....this 
> > way we're just sending little packets of ascii, which can fly.
> > 
> > If I have to pipe the actual sound from gnoppernicus, I'm thinking 
> > there will be some serious lag?
> > 
> > Take care,
> > Sina
> > 
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> > I know you can run an x session remotely (that's been part of x for
> > years) but I'm not sure how gnopernicus would like that...I think it'd
> work.
> > I have no idea how you'd set that up though, however I saw something 
> > on doing it over ssh at one time but I forget where.
> > On Fri,
> > Aug 27, 2004 at 02:59:16PM -0400, Sina Bahram wrote:
> > > Hi guys,
> > > 
> > > I hope all are well today.
> > > 
> > > Here's the question: I want to know if it's possible to set up a 
> > > system such that I can remotely access the linux box, x11 and all, 
> > > and run gnoppernicus in gnome?
> > > 
> > > I basically want to do what is availible with WinEyes and winXP's 
> > > remote desktop feature...but with linux and gnome with gnoppernicus.
> > > 
> > > Take care,
> > > Sina
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RE: Gnoppernicus and remote?

[Sina Bahram]

Yeh, but I want to get it working for sending from a t3 backend to a
dialup....see the problems?

For me, sure I'm not anticipating any problems...but for the people I want
to set it up for...there might be some. 

Any suggestions guys?

Take care,
Sina

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On Behalf Of Alex Snow
Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 10:19 AM
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Subject: Re: Gnoppernicus and remote?

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I think it only sends what sound it needs to play. and seeing how small the
sounds are, and if you're on a 100mbps network, you shouldn't see a lag.
On Sat, Aug 28, 2004 at 01:55:59AM -0400, Sina Bahram wrote:
>  
> Thus sending the sound? or only sending what sound to be played?
> 
> Take care,
> Sina
> 
> No trees were destroyed in sending this message; however, a large 
> number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca 
> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Alex Snow
> Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 10:51 PM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: Gnoppernicus and remote?
> 
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> 
> you wouldn't be piping the actual sound...you'd be using the x11 
> protocol over the network. I think that's how it works...
> On Fri, Aug 27,
> 2004 at 05:55:23PM -0400, Sina Bahram wrote:
> > So I could pipe both the sound from and the x session itself, over SSH?
> > 
> > Wouldn't there then be some lag in gnoppernicus's output?
> > 
> > I believe what WinEyes, and soon to be Jaws, does is send the text 
> > to be spoken over the network, and then let the client speak 
> > it....this way we're just sending little packets of ascii, which can
fly.
> > 
> > If I have to pipe the actual sound from gnoppernicus, I'm thinking 
> > there will be some serious lag?
> > 
> > Take care,
> > Sina
> > 
> > No trees were destroyed in sending this message; however, a large 
> > number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.

RE: Gnoppernicus and remote?

[Sina Bahram]

I'd be really interested actually.

Thank you Alex.

Take care,
Sina 

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On Behalf Of Alex Snow
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 10:53 PM
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the soundcard thing can be fixed by installing a network sound daemon...If
you want I can look up that particular piece of software.
On
Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 05:47:34PM -0500, Kenny Hitt wrote:
> Hi.  I only played with this once for a few minutes.  I used XDMCP 
> instead of ssh.  Doing it this way meant the only thing running om my 
> work station was the X server.  All other apps including gnopernicus 
> ran on the other system.  Gnopernicus used the other system's sound 
> card instead of my work station's sound card.  This should be expected.
> WARNING!  XDMCP isn't secure.  I did this on my local network and made 
> sure nothing could se the XDMCP ports from the internet.
> 
> I haven't tried using ssh, but you will probably need to have 
> Gnopernicus running on your work station to get it working.  Start an 
> X session on the local box with Gnopernicus, metacity, and a gnome 
> terminal.  In the gnome terminal, ssh to the other box and start a 
> gnome session.  This way, Gnopernicus will speak on your local work 
> station and the gnome session will run on the remote box.
> 
> Try playing with it and let us know what happens.
>           Kenny
> 	  
> On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 05:55:23PM -0400, Sina Bahram wrote:
> > So I could pipe both the sound from and the x session itself, over SSH?
> > 
> > Wouldn't there then be some lag in gnoppernicus's output?
> > 
> > I believe what WinEyes, and soon to be Jaws, does is send the text 
> > to be spoken over the network, and then let the client speak 
> > it....this way we're just sending little packets of ascii, which can
fly.
> > 
> > If I have to pipe the actual sound from gnoppernicus, I'm thinking 
> > there will be some serious lag?
> > 
> > Take care,
> > Sina
> > 
> > No trees were destroyed in sending this message; however, a large 
> > number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.