* Hello & a question
@ Marshall F. Scott
` Patrick Turnage
` (2 more replies)
0 siblings, 3 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Marshall F. Scott @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Hello List,
I just joined the list and thought 'd introduce myself. I'm a programmer
working at a cardiology research center at the University of Utah. We
mostly use Macs, but I also use JAWS under Windows 98. Since the
underpinnings of MAC OS X is Linux, I thought I'd try installing a PC
version and see if I can get a headstart on the learning curve for OS X.
I currently have EMACSSpeak running under Red Hat 8.0 on a 1.4 mHtz machine
with 256 Mb of RAM and 20 Gb devoted to Linux. I would now like to install
Speakup. Yes, I now realize this is kind of backwards, but we live and
learn.
>From looking at the Speakup FAQ's, it looks like I should buy the Double
Talk external speech synthesizer. It seems to be the best (and least
expensive!) way for me to go.
Is this a good choice? Are there any better solutions? Will this
synthesizer block me from other options (like GNOME) that are under
development?
Thanks,
Marshall
--
Marshall F. Scott
University of Utah
CVRTI
95 South 2000 East
Salt Lake City, UT 84112-5000
Phone: (801) 587-9523
FAX: (801) 581-3128
Cellular: (801) 232-5316
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread* Re: Hello & a question Hello & a question Marshall F. Scott @ ` Patrick Turnage ` Travis Siegel ` Bear in SFO 2 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Patrick Turnage @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi I thought darwin was unix based not Linux based. It would be interesting to see if speakup will work on that architecture. One thing you can do is search the net for used synths so you don't go out and spend 350 dollars on a doubletalk external. If you don't care the internals are going nice and cheep since they are ISA based. Maybe you can mail me privately about the research you do involving cardiology.. I have an interest.. sincerely, Patrick At 08:18 PM 3/6/2003 -0700, you wrote: >Hello List, >I just joined the list and thought 'd introduce myself. I'm a programmer >working at a cardiology research center at the University of Utah. We >mostly use Macs, but I also use JAWS under Windows 98. Since the >underpinnings of MAC OS X is Linux, I thought I'd try installing a PC >version and see if I can get a headstart on the learning curve for OS X. > >I currently have EMACSSpeak running under Red Hat 8.0 on a 1.4 mHtz machine >with 256 Mb of RAM and 20 Gb devoted to Linux. I would now like to install >Speakup. Yes, I now realize this is kind of backwards, but we live and >learn. >From looking at the Speakup FAQ's, it looks like I should buy the Double >Talk external speech synthesizer. It seems to be the best (and least >expensive!) way for me to go. >Is this a good choice? Are there any better solutions? Will this >synthesizer block me from other options (like GNOME) that are under >development? >Thanks, >Marshall >-- >Marshall F. Scott >University of Utah >CVRTI >95 South 2000 East >Salt Lake City, UT 84112-5000 >Phone: (801) 587-9523 >FAX: (801) 581-3128 >Cellular: (801) 232-5316 > > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ----- Patrick Turnage E-mail: pturnage@tampabay.rr.com AOL Instant Messenger: kg4dqk Home Page: http://www.access-connect.com Connecting the world to access technology information. For all mainstream and adaptive hardware and software. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: Hello & a question Hello & a question Marshall F. Scott ` Patrick Turnage @ ` Travis Siegel ` Buddy Brannan ` Bear in SFO 2 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Travis Siegel @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup As you say, the doubletalk is certainly the cheapest option for an external synth. Some people love it, and some don't. I happen to be in the some that don't, but don't let that stop you if you think it's a good option. It is cheap, so for an entry to the systems you'll be playing with, and the world of speech synthesizers in general, it's not a bad choice. If you decide later you don't like it, then you can always buy something else. I myself use an Artic Technologies Transport and sqwert to use speakup since they can be used interchangeably with speakup, and I still have all my notes if I need them. *grin* I always say use what's comfortable for you. At this point you may not know what that is, but if you check around on a few sites, you may be able to locate reviews of different speech systems with voice samples you can download and/or listen to. Give some of these a try before making a purchase if you wish, that way you can guarantee you like the speech output. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: Hello & a question ` Travis Siegel @ ` Buddy Brannan 0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Buddy Brannan @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup You can hear the Doubletalk yourself at http://www.rcsys.com BTW, the Mac OS X is BSD-based, not Linux-based. However, many commands are portable across different un*xes, as most of them are part of GNU software anyway (www.gnu.org)...so there will be a lot similar, though I can't speak to how similar configuration systems are between Redhat and BSD (or even Redhat and OS X). I suspect, though, not terribly similar, but you'll get a flavor for how a real multi-user OS runs. ... :) You won't, however, be able to use Speakup on OS X. Emacspeak should work fine, provided you use either some software-based speech like Festival or Flite with the eflite server, or can make a hardware synth work with a Mac. I was under the impression that everything was done USB on Macs these days, so I don't know how easy a Speakup-enabled Linux would run on a Mac for just that issue. As I've spent a lot of time saying I don't know, I'll shut up now. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV/3 | "And if the ground yawned, Phone: (814) 455-7333 | I'd step to the side and say, Email: davros@ycardz.com | "Hey ground! I'm nobody's lunch!" http://www.ycardz.com/ | --Eddie From Ohio ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: Hello & a question Hello & a question Marshall F. Scott ` Patrick Turnage ` Travis Siegel @ ` Bear in SFO ` Travis Siegel ` From Glenn Ervinat home. 2 siblings, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Bear in SFO @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Let me piggy-back on this one: anyone aware of an accessible version of Linux that runs on Macs? I have this 6400 that runs on a 604ev (or something like that) and it is just sitting in a corner... Thanks --David At 08:18 PM 3/6/2003 -0700, you wrote: >Hello List, >I just joined the list and thought 'd introduce myself. I'm a programmer >working at a cardiology research center at the University of Utah. We >mostly use Macs, but I also use JAWS under Windows 98. Since the >underpinnings of MAC OS X is Linux, I thought I'd try installing a PC >version and see if I can get a headstart on the learning curve for OS X. > >I currently have EMACSSpeak running under Red Hat 8.0 on a 1.4 mHtz machine >with 256 Mb of RAM and 20 Gb devoted to Linux. I would now like to install >Speakup. Yes, I now realize this is kind of backwards, but we live and >learn. > From looking at the Speakup FAQ's, it looks like I should buy the Double >Talk external speech synthesizer. It seems to be the best (and least >expensive!) way for me to go. >Is this a good choice? Are there any better solutions? Will this >synthesizer block me from other options (like GNOME) that are under >development? >Thanks, >Marshall >-- >Marshall F. Scott >University of Utah >CVRTI >95 South 2000 East >Salt Lake City, UT 84112-5000 >Phone: (801) 587-9523 >FAX: (801) 581-3128 >Cellular: (801) 232-5316 > > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: Hello & a question ` Bear in SFO @ ` Travis Siegel ` Kenny Hitt ` From Glenn Ervinat home. 1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Travis Siegel @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup You can isnstall linux on a mac. I haven't tried it yet, though I might soon, since I now have 3 older macs that were given to me, and putting linux on one should prove interesting. There was a site (I can't remember it off the top of my head) that had versions of linux for macs already created and ready to go, but any version of linux built for the 68000 series of processors should work at least for the older macs. You might want to do a search on yahoo or something to see what you can find. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: Hello & a question ` Travis Siegel @ ` Kenny Hitt ` Bear in SFO 0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Kenny Hitt @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi. Debian is supposed to rrun on Macs. Check out http://www.debian.org Kenny On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 10:12:35AM -0500, Travis Siegel wrote: > You can isnstall linux on a mac. I haven't tried it yet, though I might > soon, since I now have 3 older macs that were given to me, and putting > linux on one should prove interesting. There was a site (I can't remember > it off the top of my head) that had versions of linux for macs already > created and ready to go, but any version of linux built for the 68000 > series of processors should work at least for the older macs. You might > want to do a search on yahoo or something to see what you can find. > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: Hello & a question ` Kenny Hitt @ ` Bear in SFO ` From Glenn Ervinat home. ` Speakup on a Mac was " Kenny Hitt 0 siblings, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Bear in SFO @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup But do they 'speakup'? At 12:30 PM 3/7/2003 -0600, you wrote: >Hi. Debian is supposed to rrun on Macs. Check out >http://www.debian.org > > Kenny > >On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 10:12:35AM -0500, Travis Siegel wrote: > > You can isnstall linux on a mac. I haven't tried it yet, though I might > > soon, since I now have 3 older macs that were given to me, and putting > > linux on one should prove interesting. There was a site (I can't remember > > it off the top of my head) that had versions of linux for macs already > > created and ready to go, but any version of linux built for the 68000 > > series of processors should work at least for the older macs. You might > > want to do a search on yahoo or something to see what you can find. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: Hello & a question ` Bear in SFO @ ` From Glenn Ervinat home. ` Bear in SFO ` Speakup on a Mac was " Kenny Hitt 1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: From Glenn Ervinat home. @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup I followed that link, and I found nothing to indicate that there is speech for the Mac under Linux. I too have an old Mac, which is too old to allow "OutSpoken" to work, so If I could put linux on it to make it speak, it would be quite interesting. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bear in SFO" <bearsfo@PacBell.NET> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 11:25 PM Subject: Re: Hello & a question But do they 'speakup'? At 12:30 PM 3/7/2003 -0600, you wrote: >Hi. Debian is supposed to rrun on Macs. Check out >http://www.debian.org > > Kenny > >On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 10:12:35AM -0500, Travis Siegel wrote: > > You can isnstall linux on a mac. I haven't tried it yet, though I might > > soon, since I now have 3 older macs that were given to me, and putting > > linux on one should prove interesting. There was a site (I can't remember > > it off the top of my head) that had versions of linux for macs already > > created and ready to go, but any version of linux built for the 68000 > > series of processors should work at least for the older macs. You might > > want to do a search on yahoo or something to see what you can find. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: Hello & a question ` From Glenn Ervinat home. @ ` Bear in SFO 0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Bear in SFO @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Outspoken works on Mac? If you don't mind emailing me off-list and tell me more about that... Thanks! At 12:06 AM 3/9/2003 -0600, you wrote: >I followed that link, and I found nothing to indicate that there is speech >for the Mac under Linux. >I too have an old Mac, which is too old to allow "OutSpoken" to work, so If >I could put linux on it to make it speak, it would be quite interesting. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bear in SFO" <bearsfo@PacBell.NET> >To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> >Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 11:25 PM >Subject: Re: Hello & a question > > > >But do they 'speakup'? > >At 12:30 PM 3/7/2003 -0600, you wrote: > >Hi. Debian is supposed to rrun on Macs. Check out > >http://www.debian.org > > > > Kenny > > > >On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 10:12:35AM -0500, Travis Siegel wrote: > > > You can isnstall linux on a mac. I haven't tried it yet, though I might > > > soon, since I now have 3 older macs that were given to me, and putting > > > linux on one should prove interesting. There was a site (I can't >remember > > > it off the top of my head) that had versions of linux for macs already > > > created and ready to go, but any version of linux built for the 68000 > > > series of processors should work at least for the older macs. You might > > > want to do a search on yahoo or something to see what you can find. > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Speakup on a Mac was Re: Hello & a question ` Bear in SFO ` From Glenn Ervinat home. @ ` Kenny Hitt ` Gregory Nowak 1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Kenny Hitt @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi. On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 09:25:34PM -0800, Bear in SFO wrote: > > But do they 'speakup'? Doubt you can use an internal synth, but an external synth should work. Kenny > > At 12:30 PM 3/7/2003 -0600, you wrote: > >Hi. Debian is supposed to rrun on Macs. Check out > >http://www.debian.org > > > > Kenny > > > >On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 10:12:35AM -0500, Travis Siegel wrote: > >> You can isnstall linux on a mac. I haven't tried it yet, though I might > >> soon, since I now have 3 older macs that were given to me, and putting > >> linux on one should prove interesting. There was a site (I can't > >remember > >> it off the top of my head) that had versions of linux for macs already > >> created and ready to go, but any version of linux built for the 68000 > >> series of processors should work at least for the older macs. You might > >> want to do a search on yahoo or something to see what you can find. > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Speakup mailing list > >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >> > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: Speakup on a Mac was Re: Hello & a question ` Speakup on a Mac was " Kenny Hitt @ ` Gregory Nowak ` Kenny Hitt 0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hmmm, do macs use the same serial uart as pc-compatibles? Greg On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 08:44:02AM -0600, Kenny Hitt wrote: > Hi. > > On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 09:25:34PM -0800, Bear in SFO wrote: > > > > But do they 'speakup'? > > Doubt you can use an internal synth, but an external synth should work. > > Kenny > > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: Speakup on a Mac was Re: Hello & a question ` Gregory Nowak @ ` Kenny Hitt ` Luke Davis 0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Kenny Hitt @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Speakup talks to the kernel's serial driver, so the UART is delt with by the kernel. Kenny On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 10:45:44AM -0600, Gregory Nowak wrote: > Hmmm, do macs use the same serial uart as pc-compatibles? > > Greg > > > On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 08:44:02AM -0600, Kenny Hitt wrote: > > Hi. > > > > On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 09:25:34PM -0800, Bear in SFO wrote: > > > > > > But do they 'speakup'? > > > > Doubt you can use an internal synth, but an external synth should work. > > > > Kenny > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: Speakup on a Mac was Re: Hello & a question ` Kenny Hitt @ ` Luke Davis ` Kenny Hitt 0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Luke Davis @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup True, but can the synths we normally use talk to the Mac? Luke On Sun, 9 Mar 2003, Kenny Hitt wrote: > Speakup talks to the kernel's serial driver, so the UART is delt with by > the kernel. > > Kenny > > On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 10:45:44AM -0600, Gregory Nowak wrote: > > Hmmm, do macs use the same serial uart as pc-compatibles? > > > > Greg > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 08:44:02AM -0600, Kenny Hitt wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 09:25:34PM -0800, Bear in SFO wrote: > > > > > > > > But do they 'speakup'? > > > > > > Doubt you can use an internal synth, but an external synth should work. > > > > > > Kenny > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: Speakup on a Mac was Re: Hello & a question ` Luke Davis @ ` Kenny Hitt ` Nektarios Mallas 0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Kenny Hitt @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi. I checked into hardward differences betweene PC's and Macs. Basically, You will need an adapter to connect a serial synth to a Mac. Don't know a source to buy them so you might have to make them. Macs will have the same problem that current PC's have: Aple stopped putting serial ports on Macs around 1999. In summary, its possible to run speakup on a Mac, but it isn't easy. Just like with PC's, you will need a Mac which still has a serial port. Unlike using a PC, you will also need an adapter to connect to the serial port. Kenny On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 02:34:30PM -0600, Luke Davis wrote: > True, but can the synths we normally use talk to the Mac? > > Luke > > > On Sun, 9 Mar 2003, Kenny Hitt wrote: > > > Speakup talks to the kernel's serial driver, so the UART is delt with by > > the kernel. > > > > Kenny > > > > On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 10:45:44AM -0600, Gregory Nowak wrote: > > > Hmmm, do macs use the same serial uart as pc-compatibles? > > > > > > Greg > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 08:44:02AM -0600, Kenny Hitt wrote: > > > > Hi. > > > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 09:25:34PM -0800, Bear in SFO wrote: > > > > > > > > > > But do they 'speakup'? > > > > > > > > Doubt you can use an internal synth, but an external synth should work. > > > > > > > > Kenny > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* RE: Speakup on a Mac was Re: Hello & a question ` Kenny Hitt @ ` Nektarios Mallas ` Igor Gueths 0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Nektarios Mallas @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup I am not sure about this, but can he use a USB to serial adaptor for this purpose? He may not have access to speakup as early as a regular serial port but after the USB services are started it might be possible to use a serial sinth with it. Just a thought. Nektarios. -----Original Message----- From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Kenny Hitt Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 12:32 PM To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Subject: Re: Speakup on a Mac was Re: Hello & a question Hi. I checked into hardward differences betweene PC's and Macs. Basically, You will need an adapter to connect a serial synth to a Mac. Don't know a source to buy them so you might have to make them. Macs will have the same problem that current PC's have: Aple stopped putting serial ports on Macs around 1999. In summary, its possible to run speakup on a Mac, but it isn't easy. Just like with PC's, you will need a Mac which still has a serial port. Unlike using a PC, you will also need an adapter to connect to the serial port. Kenny On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 02:34:30PM -0600, Luke Davis wrote: > True, but can the synths we normally use talk to the Mac? > > Luke > > > On Sun, 9 Mar 2003, Kenny Hitt wrote: > > > Speakup talks to the kernel's serial driver, so the UART is delt with by > > the kernel. > > > > Kenny > > > > On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 10:45:44AM -0600, Gregory Nowak wrote: > > > Hmmm, do macs use the same serial uart as pc-compatibles? > > > > > > Greg > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 08:44:02AM -0600, Kenny Hitt wrote: > > > > Hi. > > > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 09:25:34PM -0800, Bear in SFO wrote: > > > > > > > > > > But do they 'speakup'? > > > > > > > > Doubt you can use an internal synth, but an external synth should work. > > > > > > > > Kenny > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* RE: Speakup on a Mac was Re: Hello & a question ` Nektarios Mallas @ ` Igor Gueths 0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Igor Gueths @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hello there. The only problem with this is that the Usb sybsystem doesn't load until after Init I believe, so then it would take a while until the synth drivers load. May you code in the power of the source, may the kernel, libraries, and utilities be with you, throughout all distributions until the end of the epoch. On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, Nektarios Mallas wrote: > I am not sure about this, but can he use a USB to serial adaptor for this > purpose? He may not have access to speakup as early as a regular serial port > but after the USB services are started it might be possible to use a serial > sinth with it. > Just a thought. > Nektarios. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On > Behalf Of Kenny Hitt > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 12:32 PM > To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca > Subject: Re: Speakup on a Mac was Re: Hello & a question > > > Hi. I checked into hardward differences betweene PC's and Macs. > Basically, You will need an adapter to connect a serial synth to a Mac. > Don't know a source to buy them so you might have to make them. Macs > will have the same problem that current PC's have: Aple stopped putting > serial ports on Macs around 1999. > In summary, its possible to run speakup on a Mac, but it isn't easy. > Just like with PC's, you will need a Mac which still has a serial port. > Unlike using a PC, you will also need an adapter to connect to the > serial port. > > Kenny > > On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 02:34:30PM -0600, Luke Davis wrote: > > True, but can the synths we normally use talk to the Mac? > > > > Luke > > > > > > On Sun, 9 Mar 2003, Kenny Hitt wrote: > > > > > Speakup talks to the kernel's serial driver, so the UART is delt with by > > > the kernel. > > > > > > Kenny > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 10:45:44AM -0600, Gregory Nowak wrote: > > > > Hmmm, do macs use the same serial uart as pc-compatibles? > > > > > > > > Greg > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 08:44:02AM -0600, Kenny Hitt wrote: > > > > > Hi. > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 09:25:34PM -0800, Bear in SFO wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > But do they 'speakup'? > > > > > > > > > > Doubt you can use an internal synth, but an external synth should > work. > > > > > > > > > > Kenny > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: Hello & a question ` Bear in SFO ` Travis Siegel @ ` From Glenn Ervinat home. 1 sibling, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: From Glenn Ervinat home. @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Me too! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bear in SFO" <bearsfo@PacBell.NET> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 11:40 PM Subject: Re: Hello & a question Let me piggy-back on this one: anyone aware of an accessible version of Linux that runs on Macs? I have this 6400 that runs on a 604ev (or something like that) and it is just sitting in a corner... Thanks --David At 08:18 PM 3/6/2003 -0700, you wrote: >Hello List, >I just joined the list and thought 'd introduce myself. I'm a programmer >working at a cardiology research center at the University of Utah. We >mostly use Macs, but I also use JAWS under Windows 98. Since the >underpinnings of MAC OS X is Linux, I thought I'd try installing a PC >version and see if I can get a headstart on the learning curve for OS X. > >I currently have EMACSSpeak running under Red Hat 8.0 on a 1.4 mHtz machine >with 256 Mb of RAM and 20 Gb devoted to Linux. I would now like to install >Speakup. Yes, I now realize this is kind of backwards, but we live and >learn. > From looking at the Speakup FAQ's, it looks like I should buy the Double >Talk external speech synthesizer. It seems to be the best (and least >expensive!) way for me to go. >Is this a good choice? Are there any better solutions? Will this >synthesizer block me from other options (like GNOME) that are under >development? >Thanks, >Marshall >-- >Marshall F. Scott >University of Utah >CVRTI >95 South 2000 East >Salt Lake City, UT 84112-5000 >Phone: (801) 587-9523 >FAX: (801) 581-3128 >Cellular: (801) 232-5316 > > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
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