RE: Installing Linux with Speakup

RE: Installing Linux with Speakup

[Montemayor, Kateri]

Unfortunately this company is non-profit and does not want to spend money on
the software. That is why they want to use Linux. And the How to on the
speakup site does not tell you how to put it on the cd.

-----Original Message-----
From: Janina Sajka [mailto:janina@rednote.net]
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 7:42 AM
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: Installing Linux with Speakup


Montemayor, Kateri writes:
> 
> I downloaded the ISO images but cannot get them burned to a cd or
> unpacked.Do you know how to do this?


You don't "unpack" them. That's not what they're for. The HOWTO explains
in great detail how to create a CD ROM from these files. It also
explains how to install directly from these files without ever creating
a CD ROM.

The images on the Speakup site are, however, out of date. Even though
you've gone to the trouble of downloading them, you'd be better served
to get a shrink-wrapped copy of Red Hat 8.0 at your favorite computer
software store or on the net. Just make sure you get Red Hat 8.0.
Everything you need will be inside the box. Then you can install the
latest and greatest following the instructions in the HOWTO.


> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Janina Sajka [mailto:janina@rednote.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 3:02 PM
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: Re: Installing Linux with Speakup
> 
> 
> Use the HOWTO at:
> 
> http://www.linux-speakup.org/ftp/disks/redhat/HOWTO_INSTALL.html
> 
> Please just ignore all the references to Red Hat 7.3. If you ignore
> those, and the urls that point to 7.3 iso images and docs, the rest is
> still relevant for Red Hat 8.0
> 
> You'll need more RAM. I believe 32 is minimum to install Red Hat.
> 
> 
> Montemayor, Kateri writes:
> > From: "Montemayor, Kateri" <KMontemayor@cs.devry.edu>
> > 
> > To All,
> > 	I am not sure who to send this to but I need help! I am part of the
> > AITP club at Devry University in Colorado Springs,CO. and we volunteered
> to
> > help the VISI organization by putting Linux with Speakup software on
some
> > donated computers. The computers are 486 and probably 16megs of ram.I
can
> > get more ram if I need. The hard drives are about 2gig. The problem is
> that
> > I do not know much about Linux and nothing about the speakup software. I
> do
> > have redhat 8 and 7.2. If anyone can give me detailed information on how
> to
> > install Linux with Speakup on these machines. Or if it can even be done
it
> > would be greatly appreciated.
> > Thank you,
> > Kateri Montemayor
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> -- 
> 	
> 				Janina Sajka, Director
> 				Technology Research and Development
> 				Governmental Relations Group
> 				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> 
> Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

-- 
	
				Janina Sajka, Director
				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

_______________________________________________
Speakup mailing list
Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

RE: Installing Linux with Speakup

[Alex Snow]

Hi.  Do you have a winblows box with a cd burner running something like
adaptech or nero? Just use them to burn a cd using the iso image.

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On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Montemayor, Kateri wrote:

> Unfortunately this company is non-profit and does not want to spend money on
> the software. That is why they want to use Linux. And the How to on the
> speakup site does not tell you how to put it on the cd.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Janina Sajka [mailto:janina@rednote.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 7:42 AM
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: Re: Installing Linux with Speakup
>
>
> Montemayor, Kateri writes:
> >
> > I downloaded the ISO images but cannot get them burned to a cd or
> > unpacked.Do you know how to do this?
>
>
> You don't "unpack" them. That's not what they're for. The HOWTO explains
> in great detail how to create a CD ROM from these files. It also
> explains how to install directly from these files without ever creating
> a CD ROM.
>
> The images on the Speakup site are, however, out of date. Even though
> you've gone to the trouble of downloading them, you'd be better served
> to get a shrink-wrapped copy of Red Hat 8.0 at your favorite computer
> software store or on the net. Just make sure you get Red Hat 8.0.
> Everything you need will be inside the box. Then you can install the
> latest and greatest following the instructions in the HOWTO.
>
>
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Janina Sajka [mailto:janina@rednote.net]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 3:02 PM
> > To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > Subject: Re: Installing Linux with Speakup
> >
> >
> > Use the HOWTO at:
> >
> > http://www.linux-speakup.org/ftp/disks/redhat/HOWTO_INSTALL.html
> >
> > Please just ignore all the references to Red Hat 7.3. If you ignore
> > those, and the urls that point to 7.3 iso images and docs, the rest is
> > still relevant for Red Hat 8.0
> >
> > You'll need more RAM. I believe 32 is minimum to install Red Hat.
> >
> >
> > Montemayor, Kateri writes:
> > > From: "Montemayor, Kateri" <KMontemayor@cs.devry.edu>
> > >
> > > To All,
> > > 	I am not sure who to send this to but I need help! I am part of the
> > > AITP club at Devry University in Colorado Springs,CO. and we volunteered
> > to
> > > help the VISI organization by putting Linux with Speakup software on
> some
> > > donated computers. The computers are 486 and probably 16megs of ram.I
> can
> > > get more ram if I need. The hard drives are about 2gig. The problem is
> > that
> > > I do not know much about Linux and nothing about the speakup software. I
> > do
> > > have redhat 8 and 7.2. If anyone can give me detailed information on how
> > to
> > > install Linux with Speakup on these machines. Or if it can even be done
> it
> > > would be greatly appreciated.
> > > Thank you,
> > > Kateri Montemayor
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> > --
> >
> > 				Janina Sajka, Director
> > 				Technology Research and Development
> > 				Governmental Relations Group
> > 				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> >
> > Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> --
>
> 				Janina Sajka, Director
> 				Technology Research and Development
> 				Governmental Relations Group
> 				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
>
> Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: Installing Linux with Speakup

[Janina Sajka]

Montemayor, Kateri writes:
> From: "Montemayor, Kateri" <KMontemayor@cs.devry.edu>
> 
> Unfortunately this company is non-profit and does not want to spend money on
> the software. That is why they want to use Linux. And the How to on the
> speakup site does not tell you how to put it on the cd.
> 
Pardon me if I misunderstood you.

It would be out of scope for the Speakup Modified HOWTO to explaain how
to create CD ROMs. It couldn't possibly do that for all operating
environments and all programs that create CD ROMs.

Consult the documentation for the software you use to create CD ROMs. 

It's not hard, but you do need software, and you do need a burner.

So, if this is a burden, go buy a shrink-wrapped st of Red Hat 8.0.
You'll get the same functionality even more up to date. Certainly your
company can afford the $20-$50 cost of Red Hat?

Survey

[Owen Patrick Smith]

Hello, we're working on a software synth driver for Speakup as a
project for college.  Part of our project involves measuring the impact
that such a driver would have.

As such, it would be a great help for us if some of you could fill out
a short survey we have about speakup and similar screen readers.  It's
not long, but having a good number of responses would really help us
with our write up.

http://users.wpi.edu/~blinux/cgi-bin/survey.html

Many thanks to everyone who fills is out!

Owen Smith, Abe Shultz, Nick, Pinney
blinux@wpi.edu

Re: Survey

[Ed Barnes]

Hi there, there's a problem with your survey, it gives an internal server 
error when one tries to submit it, tried using both windows and linux from 
here, write to me when it's fixed and I'll probably give it another go. 
Good luck and hth.

At 09:31 PM 2/9/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>Hello, we're working on a software synth driver for Speakup as a
>project for college.  Part of our project involves measuring the impact
>that such a driver would have.
>
>As such, it would be a great help for us if some of you could fill out
>a short survey we have about speakup and similar screen readers.  It's
>not long, but having a good number of responses would really help us
>with our write up.
>
>http://users.wpi.edu/~blinux/cgi-bin/survey.html
>
>Many thanks to everyone who fills is out!
>
>Owen Smith, Abe Shultz, Nick, Pinney
>blinux@wpi.edu
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Speakup mailing list
>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: Survey

[Gregory Nowak]

Same problem here.

Also, please clarify the wording of your last question, because it doesn't make sense.

Greg


On Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 11:08:39PM -0330, Ed Barnes wrote:
> Hi there, there's a problem with your survey, it gives an internal server 
> error when one tries to submit it, tried using both windows and linux from 
> here, write to me when it's fixed and I'll probably give it another go. 
> Good luck and hth.
> 

Re: Survey

[Alex Snow]

A good thing to check would be the shebang line of the script that handles
the form if you're using something like a perl script.  if it doesn't
point to perl apache will throw up errors like this.

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On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, Gregory Nowak wrote:

> Same problem here.
>
> Also, please clarify the wording of your last question, because it doesn't make sense.
>
> Greg
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 11:08:39PM -0330, Ed Barnes wrote:
> > Hi there, there's a problem with your survey, it gives an internal server
> > error when one tries to submit it, tried using both windows and linux from
> > here, write to me when it's fixed and I'll probably give it another go.
> > Good luck and hth.
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: Survey

[Owen Patrick Smith]

On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, Ed Barnes wrote:

> Hi there, there's a problem with your survey, it gives an internal server
> error when one tries to submit it, tried using both windows and linux from
> here, write to me when it's fixed and I'll probably give it another go.
> Good luck and hth.
>
Thanks to everyone for pointing out the problem.  I got the script working
on my own account and something fubar'ed when I moved it to the group
webpage, despite the two files being identical (yes I diff'ed to check).
WPI has interesting cgi setup issues.

Because the copy on my account works fine if you would please try again at
www.wpi.edu/~ender3rd/public_html/cgi-bin/survey/survey.html or go to
www.wpi.edu/~blinux and follow the link.

Several people also mentioned that the last question is vague, this was
intentional although I have rephrased it.  Basically I'm looking for ideas
on how speakup and similar programs are used "in the field".  Please feel
free to expound at length and/or email with extra information if you wish.

Thanks again for the prompt response,

Owen Smith
ende3rd@wpi.edu

Survey

[Dave Hunt]

Hello,

When submitting your form, I got the server-side error shown below.

My browser is emacs/w3 4.0 pre.46.  Im using emacspeak 17.0.  An xsl
transformation is applied, which linearizes any tables.

-Dave




Internal Server Error

The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to
complete your request.

Please contact the server administrator, webmaster@wpi.edu and inform them of
the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have
caused the error.

More information about this error may be available in the server error log.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------Apache/1.3.26
                                               Server at users.wpi.edu Port 80

Re: Survey

[Keith Watson]

Confirm the error.

On 09:50 PM, Dave Hunt wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> When submitting your form, I got the server-side error shown below.
> 
> My browser is emacs/w3 4.0 pre.46.  Im using emacspeak 17.0.  An xsl
> transformation is applied, which linearizes any tables.
> 
> -Dave
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Internal Server Error
> 
> The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to
> complete your request.
> 
> Please contact the server administrator, webmaster@wpi.edu and inform them of
> the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have
> caused the error.
> 
> More information about this error may be available in the server error log.
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------Apache/1.3.26
>                                                Server at users.wpi.edu Port 80
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

-- 
Keith Watson
kwatson@smed.yi.org

Among the major impediments to discovery are not the ignorant
but those with illusions of knowledge.    - B. Alan Wallace

survey

[Gregory Nowak]

Hi all,

I just completted the survey.
I could've sworn however, that that link was not there yesterday evening.
Greg