* Re: OCR -- Was "Why I Choose Linux" [not found] <20020924010201.12446.42260.Mailman@speech.braille.uwo.ca> @ ` Thomas Ward ` Scott Howell ` Infocom games locally?? Thomas Ward ` RH 7.4 beta? Thomas Ward 2 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Thomas Ward @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Well, if anyone is looking for a quality scan program OCR Shop does the job. it uses the Care MTX scan engine, the same engine used by Omnipage and Openbook, and Vividata offers a command line interface. The version for a single home user is $99.00, and they support alot of the popular scsi scanners. So if you want something a little more professional get OCR Shop, and see if you can find one of the supported scanners. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: OCR -- Was "Why I Choose Linux" ` OCR -- Was "Why I Choose Linux" Thomas Ward @ ` Scott Howell ` Terry D. Cudney 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Scott Howell @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Ocr Shop might be a nice program and is priced on the same level as most cots ocr packages accept for something like Openbook which is very expensive. However, Oct Shop is much more easily configured on a RedHat or perhaps Debian box or a distro that uses that flavor of configuration. I found it quite frankly to be a bitch to setup. I never did determine how well it worked, but if you want to spend the money, I think you'll find it to be a good program. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: OCR -- Was "Why I Choose Linux" ` Scott Howell @ ` Terry D. Cudney ` Adam Myrow 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Terry D. Cudney @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi all, OCRShoppe is targeted at RedHat. It doesn't install on a Debian system. I contacted Vividata and they promised to make a Debian compatible version, but that's last January. Before that I contacted them last August; they made the same promise then... Still they're not doing anything but RedHat. I agree, it should be a good ocr solution... but for now, it's only for RedHat users. --terry On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 06:51:54PM -0400, Scott Howell wrote: > Ocr Shop might be a nice program and is priced on the same level as most > cots ocr packages accept for something like Openbook which is very > expensive. However, Oct Shop is much more easily configured on a RedHat > or perhaps Debian box or a distro that uses that flavor of configuration. > I found it quite frankly to be a bitch to setup. > I never did determine how well it worked, but if you want to spend the > money, I think you'll find it to be a good program. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Name: Terry D. Cudney Phone: (705) 422-0039 E-mail: terry@CottageInWasaga.com Web: www.CottageInWasaga.com Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like... having a peeing sectionin a swimming pool. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: OCR -- Was "Why I Choose Linux" ` Terry D. Cudney @ ` Adam Myrow ` Terry D. Cudney 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Adam Myrow @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup They have a demo of OCR Shop on the web site and I was thinking of downloading it. What specifically makes it only run on Redhat? Is it only in RPM format? Otherwise, I don't see why it shouldn't run in any distro, but not being open source, we'll never know what they wrote it in nor what it depends on. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: OCR -- Was "Why I Choose Linux" ` Adam Myrow @ ` Terry D. Cudney 0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Terry D. Cudney @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi Adam, If you contact Vividata, they will give you instructions on how to install OCRShoppe fromthe command line (it's an X-based installation normally). However, when you follow their instructions, it becomes apparent that the directory structure (hierarchy) and library versions used by RedHat are different from the way things are set up in Debian. If you're gung ho, and feel confident about tracing/fixing directory hierarchy/library incompatibilities during the installation, then go for it. I spent a day on it and gave up. It just didn't seem worth the hassle... especially when you have to pay for it too. Just my $0.02CDN. --terry On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 09:40:01PM -0500, Adam Myrow wrote: > They have a demo of OCR Shop on the web site and I was thinking of > downloading it. What specifically makes it only run on Redhat? Is it > only in RPM format? Otherwise, I don't see why it shouldn't run in any > distro, but not being open source, we'll never know what they wrote it in > nor what it depends on. > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Name: Terry D. Cudney Phone: (705) 422-0039 E-mail: terry@CottageInWasaga.com Web: www.CottageInWasaga.com Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like... having a peeing sectionin a swimming pool. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Infocom games locally?? [not found] <20020924010201.12446.42260.Mailman@speech.braille.uwo.ca> ` OCR -- Was "Why I Choose Linux" Thomas Ward @ ` Thomas Ward ` RH 7.4 beta? Thomas Ward 2 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Thomas Ward @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Speaking of infocom games I have a question. I have been playing Arthor been doing well, but come to find out the only way to get the password for the castle is to look in your manual for Lot's pome and find the verse and line you are given while hiding behind the thrown. Does anyone have this pome? I really want to be able to get out of the castle with the prisoner, and back in to fight Lot after I have proven my knighthood. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* RH 7.4 beta? [not found] <20020924010201.12446.42260.Mailman@speech.braille.uwo.ca> ` OCR -- Was "Why I Choose Linux" Thomas Ward ` Infocom games locally?? Thomas Ward @ ` Thomas Ward ` Aaron Howell ` (2 more replies) 2 siblings, 3 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Thomas Ward @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi, list. It is my understanding RH 7.4 has Speakup already compiled in as well as some newer packages I need for some current projects. Is it true Speakup is already compiled in? Next, what is a good web site to grab the beta isos from? Thanks. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: RH 7.4 beta? ` RH 7.4 beta? Thomas Ward @ ` Aaron Howell ` Darragh ` William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-777-8123 ` Sunfire 2 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Aaron Howell @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup yes its true its compiled in, and even the keymaps are included. I did an install of rh7.4 beta (null) on my own off sock standard cds. Just be aware that once you boot up, you'll need to add RUN_FIRSTBOOT=no to etc/sysconfig/firstboot otherwise it'll keep trying to run an X application to do soundcard and printer configs. other than that you should be fine. As for an ftp site, I'm not sure, i get mine from a local mirror at work (which isn't publicly accessible). Regards Aaron On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 01:31:16AM -0400, Thomas Ward wrote: > Hi, list. It is my understanding RH 7.4 has Speakup already compiled in as > well as some newer packages I need for some current projects. Is it true > Speakup is already compiled in? > > Next, what is a good web site to grab the beta isos from? Thanks. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- +----------------------------------------------------------+ / |\ _,,,---,,_ /| / /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ / | / |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' / | / '---''(_/--' `-'\_) / | +----------------------------------------------------------+ | | Aaron Howell Kitten Internet | | | aaron@kitten.net.au Internet consultancy, | | | Phone: +61-417-625550 System administration, | | | fax: +61-7-36010099 system design/integration. | | | icq: 6715521 http://www.kitten.net.au | | | | | | | + | | / | | / | | / | |/ +----------------------------------------------------------+ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: RH 7.4 beta? ` Aaron Howell @ ` Darragh ` Aaron Howell 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Darragh @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Interesting! If you find it I'de be interested in having a look. It may have an updated version of emacs that works with w3. Oh, by the way, still haven't got w3 working. I haven't had time over the last few weeks. I'll probably get back to it in a few days. Darragh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Howell" <aaron@kitten.net.au> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 6:33 AM Subject: Re: RH 7.4 beta? > yes its true its compiled in, > and even the keymaps are included. > I did an install of rh7.4 beta (null) on my own off sock standard cds. > Just be aware that once you boot up, you'll need to add > RUN_FIRSTBOOT=no > to etc/sysconfig/firstboot > otherwise it'll keep trying to run an X application to do soundcard and printer configs. > other than that you should be fine. > As for an ftp site, I'm not sure, i get mine from a local mirror at work (which isn't publicly accessible). > Regards > Aaron > On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 01:31:16AM -0400, Thomas Ward wrote: > > Hi, list. It is my understanding RH 7.4 has Speakup already compiled in as > > well as some newer packages I need for some current projects. Is it true > > Speakup is already compiled in? > > > > Next, what is a good web site to grab the beta isos from? Thanks. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > +----------------------------------------------------------+ > / |\ _,,,---,,_ /| > / /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ / | > / |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' / | > / '---''(_/--' `-'\_) / | > +----------------------------------------------------------+ | > | Aaron Howell Kitten Internet | | > | aaron@kitten.net.au Internet consultancy, | | > | Phone: +61-417-625550 System administration, | | > | fax: +61-7-36010099 system design/integration. | | > | icq: 6715521 http://www.kitten.net.au | | > | | | > | | + > | | / > | | / > | | / > | |/ > +----------------------------------------------------------+ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: RH 7.4 beta? ` Darragh @ ` Aaron Howell ` Sunfire 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Aaron Howell @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup The version of emacs shipped is 21.2. The version of emacspeak is 16.0 In case that helps at all. Regards Aaron On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 08:31:47AM +0100, Darragh wrote: > Interesting! If you find it I'de be interested in having a look. It may > have an updated version of emacs that works with w3. Oh, by the way, still > haven't got w3 working. I haven't had time over the last few weeks. I'll > probably get back to it in a few days. > > Darragh > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Aaron Howell" <aaron@kitten.net.au> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 6:33 AM > Subject: Re: RH 7.4 beta? > > > > yes its true its compiled in, > > and even the keymaps are included. > > I did an install of rh7.4 beta (null) on my own off sock standard cds. > > Just be aware that once you boot up, you'll need to add > > RUN_FIRSTBOOT=no > > to etc/sysconfig/firstboot > > otherwise it'll keep trying to run an X application to do soundcard and > printer configs. > > other than that you should be fine. > > As for an ftp site, I'm not sure, i get mine from a local mirror at work > (which isn't publicly accessible). > > Regards > > Aaron > > On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 01:31:16AM -0400, Thomas Ward wrote: > > > Hi, list. It is my understanding RH 7.4 has Speakup already compiled in > as > > > well as some newer packages I need for some current projects. Is it true > > > Speakup is already compiled in? > > > > > > Next, what is a good web site to grab the beta isos from? Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > -- > > +----------------------------------------------------------+ > > / |\ _,,,---,,_ /| > > / /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ / | > > / |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' / | > > / '---''(_/--' `-'\_) / | > > +----------------------------------------------------------+ | > > | Aaron Howell Kitten Internet | | > > | aaron@kitten.net.au Internet consultancy, | | > > | Phone: +61-417-625550 System administration, | | > > | fax: +61-7-36010099 system design/integration. | | > > | icq: 6715521 http://www.kitten.net.au | | > > | | | > > | | + > > | | / > > | | / > > | | / > > | |/ > > +----------------------------------------------------------+ > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- +----------------------------------------------------------+ / |\ _,,,---,,_ /| / /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ / | / |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' / | / '---''(_/--' `-'\_) / | +----------------------------------------------------------+ | | Aaron Howell Kitten Internet | | | aaron@kitten.net.au Internet consultancy, | | | Phone: +61-417-625550 System administration, | | | fax: +61-7-36010099 system design/integration. | | | icq: 6715521 http://www.kitten.net.au | | | | | | | + | | / | | / | | / | |/ +----------------------------------------------------------+ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: RH 7.4 beta? ` Aaron Howell @ ` Sunfire 0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Sunfire @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup thought emacspeak 16.0 was broke.. maybe im wrong but thats what i was told... shrug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Howell" <aaron@kitten.net.au> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 4:09 AM Subject: Re: RH 7.4 beta? > The version of emacs shipped is 21.2. > The version of emacspeak is 16.0 > In case that helps at all. > Regards > Aaron > On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 08:31:47AM +0100, Darragh wrote: > > Interesting! If you find it I'de be interested in having a look. It may > > have an updated version of emacs that works with w3. Oh, by the way, still > > haven't got w3 working. I haven't had time over the last few weeks. I'll > > probably get back to it in a few days. > > > > Darragh > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Aaron Howell" <aaron@kitten.net.au> > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 6:33 AM > > Subject: Re: RH 7.4 beta? > > > > > > > yes its true its compiled in, > > > and even the keymaps are included. > > > I did an install of rh7.4 beta (null) on my own off sock standard cds. > > > Just be aware that once you boot up, you'll need to add > > > RUN_FIRSTBOOT=no > > > to etc/sysconfig/firstboot > > > otherwise it'll keep trying to run an X application to do soundcard and > > printer configs. > > > other than that you should be fine. > > > As for an ftp site, I'm not sure, i get mine from a local mirror at work > > (which isn't publicly accessible). > > > Regards > > > Aaron > > > On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 01:31:16AM -0400, Thomas Ward wrote: > > > > Hi, list. It is my understanding RH 7.4 has Speakup already compiled in > > as > > > > well as some newer packages I need for some current projects. Is it true > > > > Speakup is already compiled in? > > > > > > > > Next, what is a good web site to grab the beta isos from? Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > -- > > > +----------------------------------------------------------+ > > > / |\ _,,,---,,_ /| > > > / /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ / | > > > / |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' / | > > > / '---''(_/--' `-'\_) / | > > > +----------------------------------------------------------+ | > > > | Aaron Howell Kitten Internet | | > > > | aaron@kitten.net.au Internet consultancy, | | > > > | Phone: +61-417-625550 System administration, | | > > > | fax: +61-7-36010099 system design/integration. | | > > > | icq: 6715521 http://www.kitten.net.au | | > > > | | | > > > | | + > > > | | / > > > | | / > > > | | / > > > | |/ > > > +----------------------------------------------------------+ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > +----------------------------------------------------------+ > / |\ _,,,---,,_ /| > / /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ / | > / |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' / | > / '---''(_/--' `-'\_) / | > +----------------------------------------------------------+ | > | Aaron Howell Kitten Internet | | > | aaron@kitten.net.au Internet consultancy, | | > | Phone: +61-417-625550 System administration, | | > | fax: +61-7-36010099 system design/integration. | | > | icq: 6715521 http://www.kitten.net.au | | > | | | > | | + > | | / > | | / > | | / > | |/ > +----------------------------------------------------------+ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: RH 7.4 beta? ` RH 7.4 beta? Thomas Ward ` Aaron Howell @ ` William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-777-8123 ` Sunfire 2 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-777-8123 @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi, Where did you get the 7.4 number? Everyones guess was 8.0 because of the new glibc and gcc-3.2. As it happens, last night an 8.0 directory appeared on the FTP site. Generally, it takes about a week before the directory becomes readable, giving time for mirror sites to get caught up. If you can wait a week, keeping in mind that there's no guarantee that it'll be released then, cool. Or, maybe you can still get the beta from: ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/beta/null/ I suggest that you try to find a mirror. HTH. -- Bill in Denver On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Thomas Ward wrote: > Hi, list. It is my understanding RH 7.4 has Speakup already compiled in as > well as some newer packages I need for some current projects. Is it true > Speakup is already compiled in? > > Next, what is a good web site to grab the beta isos from? Thanks. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: RH 7.4 beta? ` RH 7.4 beta? Thomas Ward ` Aaron Howell ` William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-777-8123 @ ` Sunfire 2 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Sunfire @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup i just hope emacspeak gets fixed thats all i know...sigh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Ward" <slingshooter@valkyrie.net> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 1:31 AM Subject: RH 7.4 beta? > Hi, list. It is my understanding RH 7.4 has Speakup already compiled in as > well as some newer packages I need for some current projects. Is it true > Speakup is already compiled in? > > Next, what is a good web site to grab the beta isos from? Thanks. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
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* Re: RH 7.4 beta? [not found] <20020924164302.29976.26495.Mailman@speech.braille.uwo.ca> @ ` Thomas D. Ward ` Aaron Howell 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Thomas D. Ward @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi, Bill. Thanks for the info. Actually, someone told me it was 7.4, but after looking at the ftp site I see it is 8.0. Thanks for the correction, and tips. I guess I can wait a week or two for the full version if it is that close. It looks like many mirrors hve just added a 8.0 branch, and as you say it usually doesn't take long after the branch appears before it actually gets contents. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: RH 7.4 beta? ` Thomas D. Ward @ ` Aaron Howell 0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Aaron Howell @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup The reason people have been confusing v8.0 with v7.4 is that RedHat themselves called the original directory 7.4beta. Apparently for some time they weren't sure whether to release it as 7.4 or 8.0. the actual version number on NULL (the beta release) is 7.3.94. I hope that helps to fix up some of the confusion. (those of us who have our RHCE were hoping it would be 7.4 not 8.0 since it means our RHCE would have been valid longer, but oh well). Regards aaron On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 10:05:50PM -0400, Thomas D. Ward wrote: > > Hi, Bill. Thanks for the info. Actually, someone told me it was 7.4, but > after looking at the ftp site I see it is 8.0. Thanks for the correction, > and tips. > I guess I can wait a week or two for the full version if it is that close. > It looks like many mirrors hve just added a 8.0 branch, and as you say it > usually doesn't take long after the branch appears before it actually gets > contents. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- +----------------------------------------------------------+ / |\ _,,,---,,_ /| / /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ / | / |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' / | / '---''(_/--' `-'\_) / | +----------------------------------------------------------+ | | Aaron Howell Kitten Internet | | | aaron@kitten.net.au Internet consultancy, | | | Phone: +61-417-625550 System administration, | | | fax: +61-7-36010099 system design/integration. | | | icq: 6715521 http://www.kitten.net.au | | | | | | | + | | / | | / | | / | |/ +----------------------------------------------------------+ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
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