Re: OCR -- Was "Why I Choose Linux"

Re: OCR -- Was "Why I Choose Linux"

[Thomas Ward]

Well, if anyone is looking for a quality scan program OCR Shop does the job.
it uses the Care MTX scan engine, the same engine used by Omnipage and
Openbook, and Vividata offers a command line interface.
The version for a single home user is $99.00, and they support alot of the
popular scsi scanners.
So if you want something a little more professional get OCR Shop, and see if
you can find one of the supported scanners.

Re: Infocom games locally??

[Thomas Ward]

Speaking of infocom games I have a question. I have been playing Arthor been
doing well, but come to find out the only way to get the password for the
castle is to look in your manual for Lot's pome  and find the verse and line
you are given while hiding behind the thrown.

Does anyone have this pome? I really want  to be able to get out of the
castle with the prisoner, and back in to fight Lot after I have proven my
knighthood.

RH 7.4 beta?

[Thomas Ward]

Hi, list. It is my understanding RH 7.4 has Speakup already compiled in as
well as some newer packages I need for some current projects. Is it true
Speakup is already compiled in?

Next, what is a good web site to grab the beta isos from? Thanks.

Re: RH 7.4 beta?

[Aaron Howell]

yes its true its compiled in,
and even the keymaps are included.
I did an install of rh7.4 beta (null) on my own off sock standard cds.
Just be aware that once you boot up, you'll need to add
RUN_FIRSTBOOT=no
to etc/sysconfig/firstboot
otherwise it'll keep trying to run an X application to do soundcard and printer configs.
other than that you should be fine.
As for an ftp site, I'm not sure, i get mine from a local mirror at work (which isn't publicly accessible).
Regards
Aaron
On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 01:31:16AM -0400, Thomas Ward wrote:
> Hi, list. It is my understanding RH 7.4 has Speakup already compiled in as
> well as some newer packages I need for some current projects. Is it true
> Speakup is already compiled in?
> 
> Next, what is a good web site to grab the beta isos from? Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: RH 7.4 beta?

[Darragh]

Interesting! If you find it I'de be interested in having a look.  It may
have an updated version of emacs that works with w3.  Oh, by the way, still
haven't got w3 working.  I haven't had time over the last few weeks.  I'll
probably get back to it in a few days.

Darragh
----- Original Message -----
From: "Aaron Howell" <aaron@kitten.net.au>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 6:33 AM
Subject: Re: RH 7.4 beta?


> yes its true its compiled in,
> and even the keymaps are included.
> I did an install of rh7.4 beta (null) on my own off sock standard cds.
> Just be aware that once you boot up, you'll need to add
> RUN_FIRSTBOOT=no
> to etc/sysconfig/firstboot
> otherwise it'll keep trying to run an X application to do soundcard and
printer configs.
> other than that you should be fine.
> As for an ftp site, I'm not sure, i get mine from a local mirror at work
(which isn't publicly accessible).
> Regards
> Aaron
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 01:31:16AM -0400, Thomas Ward wrote:
> > Hi, list. It is my understanding RH 7.4 has Speakup already compiled in
as
> > well as some newer packages I need for some current projects. Is it true
> > Speakup is already compiled in?
> >
> > Next, what is a good web site to grab the beta isos from? Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
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Re: RH 7.4 beta?

[Aaron Howell]

The version of emacs shipped is 21.2.
The version of emacspeak is 16.0
In case that helps at all.
Regards
Aaron
On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 08:31:47AM +0100, Darragh wrote:
> Interesting! If you find it I'de be interested in having a look.  It may
> have an updated version of emacs that works with w3.  Oh, by the way, still
> haven't got w3 working.  I haven't had time over the last few weeks.  I'll
> probably get back to it in a few days.
> 
> Darragh
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Aaron Howell" <aaron@kitten.net.au>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 6:33 AM
> Subject: Re: RH 7.4 beta?
> 
> 
> > yes its true its compiled in,
> > and even the keymaps are included.
> > I did an install of rh7.4 beta (null) on my own off sock standard cds.
> > Just be aware that once you boot up, you'll need to add
> > RUN_FIRSTBOOT=no
> > to etc/sysconfig/firstboot
> > otherwise it'll keep trying to run an X application to do soundcard and
> printer configs.
> > other than that you should be fine.
> > As for an ftp site, I'm not sure, i get mine from a local mirror at work
> (which isn't publicly accessible).
> > Regards
> > Aaron
> > On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 01:31:16AM -0400, Thomas Ward wrote:
> > > Hi, list. It is my understanding RH 7.4 has Speakup already compiled in
> as
> > > well as some newer packages I need for some current projects. Is it true
> > > Speakup is already compiled in?
> > >
> > > Next, what is a good web site to grab the beta isos from? Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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Re: RH 7.4 beta?

[William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-777-8123]

Hi,

     Where did you get the 7.4 number?  Everyones guess was 8.0 because of 
the new glibc and gcc-3.2.  As it happens, last night an 8.0 directory 
appeared on the FTP site.  Generally, it takes about a week before the 
directory becomes readable, giving time for mirror sites to get caught up.  
If you can wait a week, keeping in mind that there's no guarantee that 
it'll be released then, cool.  Or, maybe you can still get the beta from:
ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/beta/null/
I suggest that you try to find a mirror.

          HTH.
-- 
          Bill in Denver


On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Thomas Ward wrote:

> Hi, list. It is my understanding RH 7.4 has Speakup already compiled in as
> well as some newer packages I need for some current projects. Is it true
> Speakup is already compiled in?
> 
> Next, what is a good web site to grab the beta isos from? Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

Re: OCR -- Was "Why I Choose Linux"

[Scott Howell]

Ocr Shop might be a nice program and is priced on the same level as most
cots ocr packages accept for something like Openbook which is very
expensive. However, Oct Shop is much more easily configured on a RedHat
or perhaps Debian box or a distro that uses that flavor of configuration.
I found it quite frankly to be a bitch to setup.
I never did determine how well it worked, but if you want to spend the
money, I think you'll find it to be a good program.

Re: OCR -- Was "Why I Choose Linux"

[Terry D. Cudney]

Hi all,

	OCRShoppe is targeted at RedHat. It doesn't install on a Debian system. I contacted Vividata and they promised to make a Debian compatible version, but that's last January. Before that I contacted them last August; they made the same promise then... Still they're not doing anything but RedHat. I agree, it should be a good ocr solution... but for now, it's only for RedHat users.

	--terry
 
On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 06:51:54PM -0400, Scott Howell wrote:
> Ocr Shop might be a nice program and is priced on the same level as most
> cots ocr packages accept for something like Openbook which is very
> expensive. However, Oct Shop is much more easily configured on a RedHat
> or perhaps Debian box or a distro that uses that flavor of configuration.
> I found it quite frankly to be a bitch to setup.
> I never did determine how well it worked, but if you want to spend the
> money, I think you'll find it to be a good program.
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: OCR -- Was "Why I Choose Linux"

[Adam Myrow]

They have a demo of OCR Shop on the web site and I was thinking of
downloading it.  What specifically makes it only run on Redhat?  Is it
only in RPM format?  Otherwise, I don't see why it shouldn't run in any
distro, but not being open source, we'll never know what they wrote it in
nor what it depends on.

Re: OCR -- Was "Why I Choose Linux"

[Terry D. Cudney]

Hi Adam,

	If you contact Vividata, they will give you instructions on how to install OCRShoppe fromthe command line (it's an X-based installation normally). However, when you follow their instructions, it becomes apparent that the directory structure (hierarchy) and library versions used by RedHat are different from the way things are set up in Debian.

	If you're gung ho, and feel confident about tracing/fixing directory hierarchy/library incompatibilities during the installation, then go for it. I spent a day on it and gave up. It just didn't seem worth the hassle... especially when you have to pay for it too.

	Just my $0.02CDN.

	--terry

On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 09:40:01PM -0500, Adam Myrow wrote:
> They have a demo of OCR Shop on the web site and I was thinking of
> downloading it.  What specifically makes it only run on Redhat?  Is it
> only in RPM format?  Otherwise, I don't see why it shouldn't run in any
> distro, but not being open source, we'll never know what they wrote it in
> nor what it depends on.
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: RH 7.4 beta?

[Sunfire]

i just hope emacspeak gets fixed thats all i know...sigh


----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Ward" <slingshooter@valkyrie.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 1:31 AM
Subject: RH 7.4 beta?


> Hi, list. It is my understanding RH 7.4 has Speakup already compiled in as
> well as some newer packages I need for some current projects. Is it true
> Speakup is already compiled in?
>
> Next, what is a good web site to grab the beta isos from? Thanks.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: RH 7.4 beta?

[Sunfire]

thought emacspeak 16.0 was broke.. maybe im wrong but thats what i was
told... shrug


----- Original Message -----
From: "Aaron Howell" <aaron@kitten.net.au>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 4:09 AM
Subject: Re: RH 7.4 beta?


> The version of emacs shipped is 21.2.
> The version of emacspeak is 16.0
> In case that helps at all.
> Regards
> Aaron
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 08:31:47AM +0100, Darragh wrote:
> > Interesting! If you find it I'de be interested in having a look.  It may
> > have an updated version of emacs that works with w3.  Oh, by the way,
still
> > haven't got w3 working.  I haven't had time over the last few weeks.
I'll
> > probably get back to it in a few days.
> >
> > Darragh
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Aaron Howell" <aaron@kitten.net.au>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 6:33 AM
> > Subject: Re: RH 7.4 beta?
> >
> >
> > > yes its true its compiled in,
> > > and even the keymaps are included.
> > > I did an install of rh7.4 beta (null) on my own off sock standard cds.
> > > Just be aware that once you boot up, you'll need to add
> > > RUN_FIRSTBOOT=no
> > > to etc/sysconfig/firstboot
> > > otherwise it'll keep trying to run an X application to do soundcard
and
> > printer configs.
> > > other than that you should be fine.
> > > As for an ftp site, I'm not sure, i get mine from a local mirror at
work
> > (which isn't publicly accessible).
> > > Regards
> > > Aaron
> > > On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 01:31:16AM -0400, Thomas Ward wrote:
> > > > Hi, list. It is my understanding RH 7.4 has Speakup already compiled
in
> > as
> > > > well as some newer packages I need for some current projects. Is it
true
> > > > Speakup is already compiled in?
> > > >
> > > > Next, what is a good web site to grab the beta isos from? Thanks.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
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Re: RH 7.4 beta?

[Aaron Howell]

The reason people have been confusing v8.0 with v7.4 is that RedHat themselves called the original directory 7.4beta.
Apparently for some time they weren't sure whether to release it as 7.4 or 8.0.
the actual version number on NULL (the beta release) is 7.3.94.
I hope that helps to fix up some of the confusion.
(those of us who have our RHCE were hoping it would be 7.4 not 8.0 since it means our RHCE would have been valid longer, but oh well).
Regards
aaron
On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 10:05:50PM -0400, Thomas D. Ward wrote:
> 
> Hi, Bill. Thanks for the info. Actually, someone told me it was 7.4, but  
> after looking at the ftp site I see it is 8.0. Thanks for the correction, 
> and tips.
> I guess I can wait a week or two for the full version if it is that close.
> It looks like many mirrors hve just added a 8.0 branch, and as you say it 
> usually doesn't take long after the branch appears before it actually gets 
> contents.
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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Re: RH 7.4 beta?

[Thomas D. Ward]

Hi, Bill. Thanks for the info. Actually, someone told me it was 7.4, but  
after looking at the ftp site I see it is 8.0. Thanks for the correction, 
and tips.
I guess I can wait a week or two for the full version if it is that close.
It looks like many mirrors hve just added a 8.0 branch, and as you say it 
usually doesn't take long after the branch appears before it actually gets 
contents.