* Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? @ Al Puzzuoli ` John McCann ` Sina Bahram 0 siblings, 2 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Al Puzzuoli @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup List Hi all, I'm in the process of attempting to download the Speakup modified version of Heidelberg from www.linux-speakup.org For some reason, the speakup ftp server is severely slow. I am using broadband, Comcast to be exact, and each disk is taking 15 to 20 hours to complete. Is there any alternate way to get these files, either from another server, a torrent, etc? Thanks for any info, --Al ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? Al Puzzuoli @ ` John McCann ` Al Puzzuoli ` Sina Bahram 1 sibling, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: John McCann @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi Al: You wrote: "For some reason, the speakup ftp server is severely slow. I am using broadband, Comcast to be exact, and each disk is taking 15 to 20 hours to complete." Tell me about it! I had that same experience over the President's day weekend; i.e., last weekend when I downloaded the 02/19/2005 set of four disks. And you continue: "Is there any alternate way to get these files, either from another server, a torrent, etc?" I've put them on my FTP server, and would love to know what kind of download speeds one gets when taking them from my site. Go to: ftp.jamsite.us/linux and give it a try. If you do, would you please respond (on or off list) with a report on the transfer rate? Thanks! John ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? ` John McCann @ ` Al Puzzuoli ` John McCann 0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: Al Puzzuoli @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Thanks a lot! I just started downloading disk 1. Right now, I'm getting about 70KB/s and it's estimating roughly 2 hours and 30 mins for the first disk. At this rate, I'll have them all before i would have had even one from the speakup server. --Al ----- Original Message ----- From: "John McCann" <lists@jamsite.us> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 4:43 PM Subject: Re: Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? > Hi Al: > > You wrote: > > "For some reason, the speakup ftp server is severely slow. I am using > broadband, Comcast to be exact, and each disk is taking 15 to 20 hours to > complete." > > Tell me about it! I had that same experience over the President's day > weekend; i.e., last weekend when I downloaded the 02/19/2005 set of four > disks. > > And you continue: > > "Is there any alternate way to get these files, either from another > server, a torrent, etc?" > > I've put them on my FTP server, and would love to know what kind of > download speeds one gets when taking them from my site. > > Go to: > > ftp.jamsite.us/linux > > and give it a try. If you do, would you please respond (on or off list) > with a report on the transfer rate? > > Thanks! > > John > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? ` Al Puzzuoli @ ` John McCann ` Al Puzzuoli ` Sina Bahram 0 siblings, 2 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: John McCann @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Al wrote: "Right now, I'm getting about 70KB/s and it's estimating roughly 2 hours and 30 mins for the first disk. At this rate, I'll have them all before i would have had even one from the speakup server. Interesting; 70kbps is about what I was seeing when I was downloading images from Bill Acker's site; when the speakup site was down. Glad I'm able to help, but it is a bit disheartening to hear about download speeds of 70kbps when my ISP (cox business services) touts an upload capability of 768kbps; i.e., on paper, the throughput is fully 10% of what it should be, or could ultimately be. Now, that having been said, the best throughput I was ever able to achieve by connecting to Bill's site was 370-380kbps, meaning that it took about a half hour to download one disk image. Anybody have any thoughts on why the download speed is as slow as it is, or any thoughts on how to improve it? Am now using a pentium 4 machine, 2.53GHz processor, 512MB of ram. The current plan is to upgrade this machine within the next two weeks. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Puzzuoli" <alpuzz@comcast.net> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 5:29 PM Subject: Re: Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? > Thanks a lot! > > I just started downloading disk 1. Right now, I'm getting about 70KB/s > and it's estimating roughly 2 hours and 30 mins for the first disk. At > this rate, I'll have them all before i would have had even one from the > speakup server. > > > --Al > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John McCann" <lists@jamsite.us> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 4:43 PM > Subject: Re: Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? > > >> Hi Al: >> >> You wrote: >> >> "For some reason, the speakup ftp server is severely slow. I am using >> broadband, Comcast to be exact, and each disk is taking 15 to 20 hours to >> complete." >> >> Tell me about it! I had that same experience over the President's day >> weekend; i.e., last weekend when I downloaded the 02/19/2005 set of four >> disks. >> >> And you continue: >> >> "Is there any alternate way to get these files, either from another >> server, a torrent, etc?" >> >> I've put them on my FTP server, and would love to know what kind of >> download speeds one gets when taking them from my site. >> >> Go to: >> >> ftp.jamsite.us/linux >> >> and give it a try. If you do, would you please respond (on or off list) >> with a report on the transfer rate? >> >> Thanks! >> >> John >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? ` John McCann @ ` Al Puzzuoli ` Sina Bahram 1 sibling, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Al Puzzuoli @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi john, The confusion comes in here because when companies offer speed clames, they do so measured in kBytes, and when downloading a program, your speed is typically displayed in kbits. I'm no expert but the way I understand it is as follows: You can roughly ascertain the rate of speed you would obtain from the advertised KByte number by dividing by 8. So for example, if your service advertises 768 KByte up, you divide that by 8 and get 96. This means that in an ideal scenario, if there were no overhead packets and your connection were perfect, you would get 96 kbits per second. However if you account for real world factors and overhead,you need to subtract a bit more from 96, hense putting you right about at where you are, 70. I don't know if there are better formuli out there to account for the overhead. Things become even more confusing because when heard with speech, bothKb and kb sound exactly the same. Hope this makes some sense. --Al ----- Original Message ----- From: "John McCann" <lists@jamsite.us> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 6:42 PM Subject: Re: Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? > Al wrote: > > "Right now, I'm getting about 70KB/s and it's estimating roughly 2 hours > and > 30 mins for the first disk. At this rate, I'll have them all before i > would > have had even one from the speakup server. > > Interesting; 70kbps is about what I was seeing when I was downloading > images > from Bill Acker's site; when the speakup site was down. > > Glad I'm able to help, but it is a bit disheartening to hear about > download > speeds of 70kbps when my ISP (cox business services) touts an upload > capability of 768kbps; i.e., on paper, the throughput is fully 10% of what > it should be, or could ultimately be. Now, that having been said, the best > throughput I was ever able to achieve by connecting to Bill's site was > 370-380kbps, meaning that it took about a half hour to download one disk > image. > > Anybody have any thoughts on why the download speed is as slow as it is, > or > any thoughts on how to improve it? Am now using a pentium 4 machine, > 2.53GHz > processor, 512MB of ram. The current plan is to upgrade this machine > within > the next two weeks. > > John > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Al Puzzuoli" <alpuzz@comcast.net> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 5:29 PM > Subject: Re: Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? > > >> Thanks a lot! >> >> I just started downloading disk 1. Right now, I'm getting about 70KB/s >> and it's estimating roughly 2 hours and 30 mins for the first disk. At >> this rate, I'll have them all before i would have had even one from the >> speakup server. >> >> >> --Al >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "John McCann" <lists@jamsite.us> >> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." >> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> >> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 4:43 PM >> Subject: Re: Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? >> >> >>> Hi Al: >>> >>> You wrote: >>> >>> "For some reason, the speakup ftp server is severely slow. I am using >>> broadband, Comcast to be exact, and each disk is taking 15 to 20 hours >>> to >>> complete." >>> >>> Tell me about it! I had that same experience over the President's day >>> weekend; i.e., last weekend when I downloaded the 02/19/2005 set of four >>> disks. >>> >>> And you continue: >>> >>> "Is there any alternate way to get these files, either from another >>> server, a torrent, etc?" >>> >>> I've put them on my FTP server, and would love to know what kind of >>> download speeds one gets when taking them from my site. >>> >>> Go to: >>> >>> ftp.jamsite.us/linux >>> >>> and give it a try. If you do, would you please respond (on or off list) >>> with a report on the transfer rate? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> John >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Speakup mailing list >>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* RE: Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? ` John McCann ` Al Puzzuoli @ ` Sina Bahram ` Farhan 1 sibling, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: Sina Bahram @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.' Actually 768 killibits per second only translates into around 96 kb/s, so 70kb/s is around 72.91% of what's on paper. Remember to do the same with your download ... You are getting about right for 3mb/s down: just divide by 8 Take care, Sina -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of John McCann Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 6:43 PM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: Re: Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? Al wrote: "Right now, I'm getting about 70KB/s and it's estimating roughly 2 hours and 30 mins for the first disk. At this rate, I'll have them all before i would have had even one from the speakup server. Interesting; 70kbps is about what I was seeing when I was downloading images from Bill Acker's site; when the speakup site was down. Glad I'm able to help, but it is a bit disheartening to hear about download speeds of 70kbps when my ISP (cox business services) touts an upload capability of 768kbps; i.e., on paper, the throughput is fully 10% of what it should be, or could ultimately be. Now, that having been said, the best throughput I was ever able to achieve by connecting to Bill's site was 370-380kbps, meaning that it took about a half hour to download one disk image. Anybody have any thoughts on why the download speed is as slow as it is, or any thoughts on how to improve it? Am now using a pentium 4 machine, 2.53GHz processor, 512MB of ram. The current plan is to upgrade this machine within the next two weeks. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Puzzuoli" <alpuzz@comcast.net> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 5:29 PM Subject: Re: Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? > Thanks a lot! > > I just started downloading disk 1. Right now, I'm getting about 70KB/s > and it's estimating roughly 2 hours and 30 mins for the first disk. At > this rate, I'll have them all before i would have had even one from the > speakup server. > > > --Al > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John McCann" <lists@jamsite.us> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 4:43 PM > Subject: Re: Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? > > >> Hi Al: >> >> You wrote: >> >> "For some reason, the speakup ftp server is severely slow. I am using >> broadband, Comcast to be exact, and each disk is taking 15 to 20 hours to >> complete." >> >> Tell me about it! I had that same experience over the President's day >> weekend; i.e., last weekend when I downloaded the 02/19/2005 set of four >> disks. >> >> And you continue: >> >> "Is there any alternate way to get these files, either from another >> server, a torrent, etc?" >> >> I've put them on my FTP server, and would love to know what kind of >> download speeds one gets when taking them from my site. >> >> Go to: >> >> ftp.jamsite.us/linux >> >> and give it a try. If you do, would you please respond (on or off list) >> with a report on the transfer rate? >> >> Thanks! >> >> John >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* RE: Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? ` Sina Bahram @ ` Farhan 0 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Farhan @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.' I would think to distribute the speakup modifyed anything distros is to use a torrent, easier that way.. -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Sina Bahram Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 11:21 PM To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.' Subject: RE: Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? Actually 768 killibits per second only translates into around 96 kb/s, so 70kb/s is around 72.91% of what's on paper. Remember to do the same with your download ... You are getting about right for 3mb/s down: just divide by 8 Take care, Sina -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of John McCann Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 6:43 PM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: Re: Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? Al wrote: "Right now, I'm getting about 70KB/s and it's estimating roughly 2 hours and 30 mins for the first disk. At this rate, I'll have them all before i would have had even one from the speakup server. Interesting; 70kbps is about what I was seeing when I was downloading images from Bill Acker's site; when the speakup site was down. Glad I'm able to help, but it is a bit disheartening to hear about download speeds of 70kbps when my ISP (cox business services) touts an upload capability of 768kbps; i.e., on paper, the throughput is fully 10% of what it should be, or could ultimately be. Now, that having been said, the best throughput I was ever able to achieve by connecting to Bill's site was 370-380kbps, meaning that it took about a half hour to download one disk image. Anybody have any thoughts on why the download speed is as slow as it is, or any thoughts on how to improve it? Am now using a pentium 4 machine, 2.53GHz processor, 512MB of ram. The current plan is to upgrade this machine within the next two weeks. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Puzzuoli" <alpuzz@comcast.net> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 5:29 PM Subject: Re: Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? > Thanks a lot! > > I just started downloading disk 1. Right now, I'm getting about > 70KB/s and it's estimating roughly 2 hours and 30 mins for the first > disk. At this rate, I'll have them all before i would have had even > one from the speakup server. > > > --Al > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John McCann" <lists@jamsite.us> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 4:43 PM > Subject: Re: Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? > > >> Hi Al: >> >> You wrote: >> >> "For some reason, the speakup ftp server is severely slow. I am >> using broadband, Comcast to be exact, and each disk is taking 15 to >> 20 hours to complete." >> >> Tell me about it! I had that same experience over the President's day >> weekend; i.e., last weekend when I downloaded the 02/19/2005 set of >> four disks. >> >> And you continue: >> >> "Is there any alternate way to get these files, either from another >> server, a torrent, etc?" >> >> I've put them on my FTP server, and would love to know what kind of >> download speeds one gets when taking them from my site. >> >> Go to: >> >> ftp.jamsite.us/linux >> >> and give it a try. If you do, would you please respond (on or off >> list) with a report on the transfer rate? >> >> Thanks! >> >> John >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* RE: Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? Al Puzzuoli ` John McCann @ ` Sina Bahram ` Janina Sajka 1 sibling, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: Sina Bahram @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.' I'm working on trying to get a mirror set up at NC State ... I'll be double checking on that tomorrow. I also wouldn't be adverse to offering myself a simple taurant ceeder; however, I would have to download the latest images from someone ... My bandwidth recently increased, so my down is now 5 mb/s: pittiful compared to the university, but not bad for home use. I believe my upload is still around 512 killibits at best, more like only 320 on average, which translates into around 40 to 45kb/s Take care, Sina -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Al Puzzuoli Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 4:22 PM To: Speakup List Subject: Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? Hi all, I'm in the process of attempting to download the Speakup modified version of Heidelberg from www.linux-speakup.org For some reason, the speakup ftp server is severely slow. I am using broadband, Comcast to be exact, and each disk is taking 15 to 20 hours to complete. Is there any alternate way to get these files, either from another server, a torrent, etc? Thanks for any info, --Al _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? ` Sina Bahram @ ` Janina Sajka ` Sina Bahram 0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Good to have this update, Sina. I'm also working on a potential mirror with big pipes in Canada. Sina Bahram writes: > I'm working on trying to get a mirror set up at NC State ... I'll be double > checking on that tomorrow. > > I also wouldn't be adverse to offering myself a simple taurant ceeder; > however, I would have to download the latest images from someone ... My > bandwidth recently increased, so my down is now 5 mb/s: pittiful compared to > the university, but not bad for home use. I believe my upload is still > around 512 killibits at best, more like only 320 on average, which > translates into around 40 to 45kb/s > > Take care, > Sina > > -----Original Message----- > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] > On Behalf Of Al Puzzuoli > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 4:22 PM > To: Speakup List > Subject: Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? > > Hi all, > > I'm in the process of attempting to download the Speakup modified version of > Heidelberg from www.linux-speakup.org For some reason, the speakup ftp > server is severely slow. I am using broadband, Comcast to be exact, and > each disk is taking 15 to 20 hours to complete. > Is there any alternate way to get these files, either from another server, a > torrent, etc? > > Thanks for any info, > > --Al > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka Phone: +1.202.494.7040 Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org http://a11y.org If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a different problem. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* RE: Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? ` Janina Sajka @ ` Sina Bahram ` Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: Sina Bahram @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.' Sounds like a plan ... I'll be letting you all know later this afternoon: I've got my fingers crossed, and I think it'll go through: if it does, Janina: are you, Kirk, and Bill the ones I need to coordinate with? Take care, Sina -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 10:31 AM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: Re: Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? Good to have this update, Sina. I'm also working on a potential mirror with big pipes in Canada. Sina Bahram writes: > I'm working on trying to get a mirror set up at NC State ... I'll be > double checking on that tomorrow. > > I also wouldn't be adverse to offering myself a simple taurant ceeder; > however, I would have to download the latest images from someone ... > My bandwidth recently increased, so my down is now 5 mb/s: pittiful > compared to the university, but not bad for home use. I believe my > upload is still around 512 killibits at best, more like only 320 on > average, which translates into around 40 to 45kb/s > > Take care, > Sina > > -----Original Message----- > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca > [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] > On Behalf Of Al Puzzuoli > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 4:22 PM > To: Speakup List > Subject: Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? > > Hi all, > > I'm in the process of attempting to download the Speakup modified > version of Heidelberg from www.linux-speakup.org For some reason, the > speakup ftp server is severely slow. I am using broadband, Comcast to > be exact, and each disk is taking 15 to 20 hours to complete. > Is there any alternate way to get these files, either from another > server, a torrent, etc? > > Thanks for any info, > > --Al > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka Phone: +1.202.494.7040 Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org http://a11y.org If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a different problem. _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? ` Sina Bahram @ ` Janina Sajka ` Kenny Hitt ` Sina Bahram 0 siblings, 2 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi, Sina: I don't think there's much to coordinate. That's the beauty of it. My advice is to simply run a weekly rsync via cron--something like: rsync -avtz --delete bumpy.braille.uwo.ca::ftp/speakup/disks/* \ [mirror.directory] The only refinement I can think of that would probably be helpful is to close the directory before doing the rsync to insure that no files are locked by someone's download while the rsync is in process. I confess I don't know if this is really an issue, but I'd want to make sure that it isn't--or just deal with it, perhaps by chmod the tree against reads for the duration. Sina Bahram writes: > Sounds like a plan ... I'll be letting you all know later this afternoon: > I've got my fingers crossed, and I think it'll go through: if it does, > Janina: are you, Kirk, and Bill the ones I need to coordinate with? > > Take care, > Sina > > -----Original Message----- > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] > On Behalf Of Janina Sajka > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 10:31 AM > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > Subject: Re: Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? > > Good to have this update, Sina. I'm also working on a potential mirror with > big pipes in Canada. > > Sina Bahram writes: > > I'm working on trying to get a mirror set up at NC State ... I'll be > > double checking on that tomorrow. > > > > I also wouldn't be adverse to offering myself a simple taurant ceeder; > > however, I would have to download the latest images from someone ... > > My bandwidth recently increased, so my down is now 5 mb/s: pittiful > > compared to the university, but not bad for home use. I believe my > > upload is still around 512 killibits at best, more like only 320 on > > average, which translates into around 40 to 45kb/s > > > > Take care, > > Sina > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca > > [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] > > On Behalf Of Al Puzzuoli > > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 4:22 PM > > To: Speakup List > > Subject: Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? > > > > Hi all, > > > > I'm in the process of attempting to download the Speakup modified > > version of Heidelberg from www.linux-speakup.org For some reason, the > > speakup ftp server is severely slow. I am using broadband, Comcast to > > be exact, and each disk is taking 15 to 20 hours to complete. > > Is there any alternate way to get these files, either from another > > server, a torrent, etc? > > > > Thanks for any info, > > > > --Al > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > > Janina Sajka Phone: +1.202.494.7040 > Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com > > Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) > janina@freestandards.org http://a11y.org > > If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a different problem. > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka Phone: +1.202.494.7040 Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org http://a11y.org If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a different problem. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? ` Janina Sajka @ ` Kenny Hitt ` Janina Sajka ` Sina Bahram ` Sina Bahram 1 sibling, 2 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Kenny Hitt @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi. Since Bill is the maintainer for the speakup modified Fedora, wouldn't it be better to rsync against his server? Considering the slow transfers to and from bumpy, rsyncing against bumpy could get the mirrors up to date much sooner. Kenny On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 01:23:10PM -0500, Janina Sajka wrote: > Hi, Sina: > > I don't think there's much to coordinate. That's the beauty of it. > > My advice is to simply run a weekly rsync via cron--something like: > > rsync -avtz --delete bumpy.braille.uwo.ca::ftp/speakup/disks/* \ > [mirror.directory] > > The only refinement I can think of that would probably be helpful is to > close the directory before doing the rsync to insure that no files are > locked by someone's download while the rsync is in process. I confess I > don't know if this is really an issue, but I'd want to make sure that it > isn't--or just deal with it, perhaps by chmod the tree against reads for > the duration. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? ` Kenny Hitt @ ` Janina Sajka ` Sina Bahram ` Sina Bahram 1 sibling, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. My expectation is that we'll simply point public downloads against the mirrors, once we have them. This should alleviate the load on Bumpy. Please note that I'm talking about mirroring all of the various community contributed technology available at Speakup, not just the Fedora. I think you missed that. Kenny Hitt writes: > Hi. Since Bill is the maintainer for the speakup modified Fedora, > wouldn't it be better to rsync against his server? Considering the slow > transfers to and from bumpy, rsyncing against bumpy could get the > mirrors up to date much sooner. > > Kenny > > On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 01:23:10PM -0500, Janina Sajka wrote: > > Hi, Sina: > > > > I don't think there's much to coordinate. That's the beauty of it. > > > > My advice is to simply run a weekly rsync via cron--something like: > > > > rsync -avtz --delete bumpy.braille.uwo.ca::ftp/speakup/disks/* \ > > [mirror.directory] > > > > The only refinement I can think of that would probably be helpful is to > > close the directory before doing the rsync to insure that no files are > > locked by someone's download while the rsync is in process. I confess I > > don't know if this is really an issue, but I'd want to make sure that it > > isn't--or just deal with it, perhaps by chmod the tree against reads for > > the duration. > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka Phone: +1.202.494.7040 Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org http://a11y.org If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a different problem. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* RE: Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? ` Janina Sajka @ ` Sina Bahram ` Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: Sina Bahram @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.' Hi Janina, So did I, but it's not a problem I don't think: we'll simply assign the propper amount of space ... Can you give me an idea of how much it is? Like 5 gigs, 10 gigs? Take care, Sina -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 1:38 PM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: Re: Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? My expectation is that we'll simply point public downloads against the mirrors, once we have them. This should alleviate the load on Bumpy. Please note that I'm talking about mirroring all of the various community contributed technology available at Speakup, not just the Fedora. I think you missed that. Kenny Hitt writes: > Hi. Since Bill is the maintainer for the speakup modified Fedora, > wouldn't it be better to rsync against his server? Considering the > slow transfers to and from bumpy, rsyncing against bumpy could get the > mirrors up to date much sooner. > > Kenny > > On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 01:23:10PM -0500, Janina Sajka wrote: > > Hi, Sina: > > > > I don't think there's much to coordinate. That's the beauty of it. > > > > My advice is to simply run a weekly rsync via cron--something like: > > > > rsync -avtz --delete bumpy.braille.uwo.ca::ftp/speakup/disks/* \ > > [mirror.directory] > > > > The only refinement I can think of that would probably be helpful is > > to close the directory before doing the rsync to insure that no > > files are locked by someone's download while the rsync is in > > process. I confess I don't know if this is really an issue, but I'd > > want to make sure that it isn't--or just deal with it, perhaps by > > chmod the tree against reads for the duration. > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka Phone: +1.202.494.7040 Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org http://a11y.org If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a different problem. _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? ` Sina Bahram @ ` Janina Sajka ` Sina Bahram 0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. It's just under 20 gigs currently. Sina Bahram writes: > Hi Janina, > > So did I, but it's not a problem I don't think: we'll simply assign the > propper amount of space ... > > Can you give me an idea of how much it is? Like 5 gigs, 10 gigs? > > Take care, > Sina > > -----Original Message----- > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] > On Behalf Of Janina Sajka > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 1:38 PM > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > Subject: Re: Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? > > My expectation is that we'll simply point public downloads against the > mirrors, once we have them. This should alleviate the load on Bumpy. > > Please note that I'm talking about mirroring all of the various community > contributed technology available at Speakup, not just the Fedora. I think > you missed that. > > Kenny Hitt writes: > > Hi. Since Bill is the maintainer for the speakup modified Fedora, > > wouldn't it be better to rsync against his server? Considering the > > slow transfers to and from bumpy, rsyncing against bumpy could get the > > mirrors up to date much sooner. > > > > Kenny > > > > On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 01:23:10PM -0500, Janina Sajka wrote: > > > Hi, Sina: > > > > > > I don't think there's much to coordinate. That's the beauty of it. > > > > > > My advice is to simply run a weekly rsync via cron--something like: > > > > > > rsync -avtz --delete bumpy.braille.uwo.ca::ftp/speakup/disks/* \ > > > [mirror.directory] > > > > > > The only refinement I can think of that would probably be helpful is > > > to close the directory before doing the rsync to insure that no > > > files are locked by someone's download while the rsync is in > > > process. I confess I don't know if this is really an issue, but I'd > > > want to make sure that it isn't--or just deal with it, perhaps by > > > chmod the tree against reads for the duration. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > > Janina Sajka Phone: +1.202.494.7040 > Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com > > Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) > janina@freestandards.org http://a11y.org > > If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a different problem. > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka Phone: +1.202.494.7040 Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org http://a11y.org If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a different problem. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* RE: Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? ` Janina Sajka @ ` Sina Bahram 0 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Sina Bahram @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.' *whistle* ... I'll be back: let me go check on that ... If 20 gigs isn't possible, and I'm not sure it's not: then what is the priority? I do hate asking that question: ... But, we will see what happens. Take care, Sina -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 2:47 PM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: Re: Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? It's just under 20 gigs currently. Sina Bahram writes: > Hi Janina, > > So did I, but it's not a problem I don't think: we'll simply assign > the propper amount of space ... > > Can you give me an idea of how much it is? Like 5 gigs, 10 gigs? > > Take care, > Sina > > -----Original Message----- > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca > [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] > On Behalf Of Janina Sajka > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 1:38 PM > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > Subject: Re: Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? > > My expectation is that we'll simply point public downloads against the > mirrors, once we have them. This should alleviate the load on Bumpy. > > Please note that I'm talking about mirroring all of the various > community contributed technology available at Speakup, not just the > Fedora. I think you missed that. > > Kenny Hitt writes: > > Hi. Since Bill is the maintainer for the speakup modified Fedora, > > wouldn't it be better to rsync against his server? Considering the > > slow transfers to and from bumpy, rsyncing against bumpy could get > > the mirrors up to date much sooner. > > > > Kenny > > > > On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 01:23:10PM -0500, Janina Sajka wrote: > > > Hi, Sina: > > > > > > I don't think there's much to coordinate. That's the beauty of it. > > > > > > My advice is to simply run a weekly rsync via cron--something like: > > > > > > rsync -avtz --delete bumpy.braille.uwo.ca::ftp/speakup/disks/* \ > > > [mirror.directory] > > > > > > The only refinement I can think of that would probably be helpful > > > is to close the directory before doing the rsync to insure that no > > > files are locked by someone's download while the rsync is in > > > process. I confess I don't know if this is really an issue, but > > > I'd want to make sure that it isn't--or just deal with it, perhaps > > > by chmod the tree against reads for the duration. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > > Janina Sajka Phone: +1.202.494.7040 > Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com > > Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) > janina@freestandards.org http://a11y.org > > If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a different problem. > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka Phone: +1.202.494.7040 Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org http://a11y.org If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a different problem. _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* RE: Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? ` Kenny Hitt ` Janina Sajka @ ` Sina Bahram ` Janina Sajka 1 sibling, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: Sina Bahram @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.' Well, let me know ... I need to send them the propper rsync info ... If not, they set a simple wget or ftp would also work just fine. Take care, Sina -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Kenny Hitt Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 1:42 PM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: Re: Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? Hi. Since Bill is the maintainer for the speakup modified Fedora, wouldn't it be better to rsync against his server? Considering the slow transfers to and from bumpy, rsyncing against bumpy could get the mirrors up to date much sooner. Kenny On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 01:23:10PM -0500, Janina Sajka wrote: > Hi, Sina: > > I don't think there's much to coordinate. That's the beauty of it. > > My advice is to simply run a weekly rsync via cron--something like: > > rsync -avtz --delete bumpy.braille.uwo.ca::ftp/speakup/disks/* \ > [mirror.directory] > > The only refinement I can think of that would probably be helpful is > to close the directory before doing the rsync to insure that no files > are locked by someone's download while the rsync is in process. I > confess I don't know if this is really an issue, but I'd want to make > sure that it isn't--or just deal with it, perhaps by chmod the tree > against reads for the duration. _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? ` Sina Bahram @ ` Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. The rsync is preferable because it will work far more quickly and efficiently. Most of the data doesn't change from week to week. Rsync is smart enough to only download the differences, that what's so pwerful about rsync. Sina Bahram writes: > Well, let me know ... I need to send them the propper rsync info ... If not, > they set a simple wget or ftp would also work just fine. > > Take care, > Sina > > -----Original Message----- > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] > On Behalf Of Kenny Hitt > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 1:42 PM > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > Subject: Re: Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? > > Hi. Since Bill is the maintainer for the speakup modified Fedora, wouldn't > it be better to rsync against his server? Considering the slow transfers to > and from bumpy, rsyncing against bumpy could get the mirrors up to date much > sooner. > > Kenny > > On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 01:23:10PM -0500, Janina Sajka wrote: > > Hi, Sina: > > > > I don't think there's much to coordinate. That's the beauty of it. > > > > My advice is to simply run a weekly rsync via cron--something like: > > > > rsync -avtz --delete bumpy.braille.uwo.ca::ftp/speakup/disks/* \ > > [mirror.directory] > > > > The only refinement I can think of that would probably be helpful is > > to close the directory before doing the rsync to insure that no files > > are locked by someone's download while the rsync is in process. I > > confess I don't know if this is really an issue, but I'd want to make > > sure that it isn't--or just deal with it, perhaps by chmod the tree > > against reads for the duration. > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka Phone: +1.202.494.7040 Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org http://a11y.org If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a different problem. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* RE: Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? ` Janina Sajka ` Kenny Hitt @ ` Sina Bahram 1 sibling, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Sina Bahram @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.' Guess what all? Awesome news: we are a go! My person over here needs the rsync information: which you just provided So let me get them this info, and see if that's enough ... If so, I will be forwarding you all the propper URL, and then: happy downloading I suppose. Now, Janina, or anyone else: how can we quickly get those files over here? Can we temporarly assign some high priority ... Or put them up on a fast pipe for just a few minutes to get across? I would like to sincerely thank NC State for their willingness to do this. It was a simple matter of asking, and they quickly started working on how to do it, rather than if to do it ... So, I think that's very nice of them. I'll be writing an email to the rellavent people involved, thanking them: I'll make sure to copy the list. Take care, Sina -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 1:23 PM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: Re: Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? Hi, Sina: I don't think there's much to coordinate. That's the beauty of it. My advice is to simply run a weekly rsync via cron--something like: rsync -avtz --delete bumpy.braille.uwo.ca::ftp/speakup/disks/* \ [mirror.directory] The only refinement I can think of that would probably be helpful is to close the directory before doing the rsync to insure that no files are locked by someone's download while the rsync is in process. I confess I don't know if this is really an issue, but I'd want to make sure that it isn't--or just deal with it, perhaps by chmod the tree against reads for the duration. Sina Bahram writes: > Sounds like a plan ... I'll be letting you all know later this afternoon: > I've got my fingers crossed, and I think it'll go through: if it does, > Janina: are you, Kirk, and Bill the ones I need to coordinate with? > > Take care, > Sina > > -----Original Message----- > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca > [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] > On Behalf Of Janina Sajka > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 10:31 AM > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > Subject: Re: Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? > > Good to have this update, Sina. I'm also working on a potential mirror > with big pipes in Canada. > > Sina Bahram writes: > > I'm working on trying to get a mirror set up at NC State ... I'll be > > double checking on that tomorrow. > > > > I also wouldn't be adverse to offering myself a simple taurant > > ceeder; however, I would have to download the latest images from someone ... > > My bandwidth recently increased, so my down is now 5 mb/s: pittiful > > compared to the university, but not bad for home use. I believe my > > upload is still around 512 killibits at best, more like only 320 on > > average, which translates into around 40 to 45kb/s > > > > Take care, > > Sina > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca > > [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] > > On Behalf Of Al Puzzuoli > > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 4:22 PM > > To: Speakup List > > Subject: Any alternate download sites for speakup ftp? > > > > Hi all, > > > > I'm in the process of attempting to download the Speakup modified > > version of Heidelberg from www.linux-speakup.org For some reason, > > the speakup ftp server is severely slow. I am using broadband, > > Comcast to be exact, and each disk is taking 15 to 20 hours to complete. > > Is there any alternate way to get these files, either from another > > server, a torrent, etc? > > > > Thanks for any info, > > > > --Al > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > > Janina Sajka Phone: +1.202.494.7040 > Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com > > Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) > janina@freestandards.org http://a11y.org > > If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a different problem. > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka Phone: +1.202.494.7040 Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org http://a11y.org If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a different problem. _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
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