* emacspeak @ Igor Gueths 0 siblings, 0 replies; 37+ messages in thread From: Igor Gueths @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi all. I think that I'm going to stick to the lilo append=speakup_synth=none. Its kind of annoying, but I guess its a temporary osllution till I get another hardware synth. In terms of the alsa thing and viavoice and the other software synths, I won't be able to play audio or anything, and I often listen to stuff when I'm doing other things such as searching for google. Thanks everyone for the suggestions, I'll definitely keep them in mind. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 37+ messages in thread
* Emacspeak @ Scott Howell ` Emacspeak Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 1 reply; 37+ messages in thread From: Scott Howell @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Just had a quick question. I know there is a patch for Speakup that will allow Speakup and Emacspeak to get along, but what I am wondering is if you use Flight or whatever software speech engine for Emacspeak, do you still need to patch Speakup? I've not tried Emacspeak, but am curious and maybe at some point I just might want to give it a go. tnx --- Scott ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 37+ messages in thread
* Re: Emacspeak Emacspeak Scott Howell @ ` Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 0 replies; 37+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Scott Howell writes: > > Just had a quick question. I know there is a patch for Speakup that will > allow Speakup and Emacspeak to get along, but what I am wondering is if > you use Flight or whatever software speech engine for Emacspeak, do you > still need to patch Speakup? No, you would not. The patch is about sharing a speech device between Speakup and Emacspeak. If you use a different device, then there is no conflict, and nothing to resolve. In fact, this is arguably the optimal way to get familiar with Emacspeak.. Simply turn Speakup off and on as much aas you need to in order to understand what'shappening in emacs. Emacspeak is not particularly forgiving and can be very frustrating all by itself. > I've not tried Emacspeak, but am curious and maybe at some point I just > might want to give it a go. > > tnx > > --- > Scott > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 37+ messages in thread
* Re: interesting experiment. @ Adam Myrow ` Alex Snow 0 siblings, 1 reply; 37+ messages in thread From: Adam Myrow @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup For me, I'd like to see a good financial package in Linux. Maybe Gnu Cash will be accessible when Gnome is? So much depends on this. I hope that not just Gnome, but KDE, Blackbox, etc. become usable at some time. One of the things that sounds cool about X is getting to choose your desktop like that. In the mean time, has anybody encountered a financial package under the console of any decency? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 37+ messages in thread
* Re: interesting experiment. interesting experiment Adam Myrow @ ` Alex Snow ` Ann Parsons 0 siblings, 1 reply; 37+ messages in thread From: Alex Snow @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup What I'd really like to see in linux is a screen reader supporting software speach. That would make my life, and many other people's lives, much easier. You wouldn't have to lug your synth around with you all the time. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adam Myrow" <myrow@eskimo.com> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 3:29 PM Subject: Re: interesting experiment. > For me, I'd like to see a good financial package in Linux. Maybe Gnu Cash > will be accessible when Gnome is? So much depends on this. I hope that > not just Gnome, but KDE, Blackbox, etc. become usable at some time. One > of the things that sounds cool about X is getting to choose your desktop > like that. In the mean time, has anybody encountered a financial package > under the console of any decency? > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 37+ messages in thread
* Re: interesting experiment. ` Alex Snow @ ` Ann Parsons ` Octavian Rasnita 0 siblings, 1 reply; 37+ messages in thread From: Ann Parsons @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi all, Why don't you try Emacspeak and quit yawping! There *is* a speech output system that uses software speech. Ann P. -- Ann K. Parsons email: akp@eznet.net ICQ Number: 33006854 WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp "All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are lost." JRRT ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 37+ messages in thread
* Re: interesting experiment. ` Ann Parsons @ ` Octavian Rasnita ` Ann Parsons 0 siblings, 1 reply; 37+ messages in thread From: Octavian Rasnita @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Do you mean that using Emacspeak is easier than using Windows? Nice joke. Really. And ... without a hardware sinthesizer, with that IBM Via Voice that likes to crash so often, or other software sinthesizers hard to understand, ... Teddy, orasnita@home.ro ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Parsons" <akp@eznet.net> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 11:53 PM Subject: Re: interesting experiment. Hi all, Why don't you try Emacspeak and quit yawping! There *is* a speech output system that uses software speech. Ann P. -- Ann K. Parsons email: akp@eznet.net ICQ Number: 33006854 WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp "All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are lost." JRRT _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 37+ messages in thread
* Re: interesting experiment. ` Octavian Rasnita @ ` Ann Parsons ` emacspeak brian Moore 0 siblings, 1 reply; 37+ messages in thread From: Ann Parsons @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi All, Again, Emacspeak was configured and written for the DecTalk card. Use it. Ann P. -- Ann K. Parsons email: akp@eznet.net ICQ Number: 33006854 WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp "All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are lost." JRRT ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 37+ messages in thread
* emacspeak ` Ann Parsons @ ` brian Moore ` emacspeak Saqib Shaikh ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 37+ messages in thread From: brian Moore @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup HI all, I am primarily a speakup user on my linux system, however, yesterday, I was able to get emacspeak and via voice to actually work on my rh 7.3 system and would like to give this thing a really good try. I suspect there is a list for it but don't know where. also, does anyone have any quick pointers to docs I can read or something to get familiar with using it and what things I may need to install to try mail, web browsing etc? also, one urgent question. the default speech rate is intolerabally slow. I thought I could do it with control e and then I think f1 but couldn't get it to happen. would like to get that changed asap because reading at that speed drives me mad. thanks. Brian. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 37+ messages in thread
* Re: emacspeak ` emacspeak brian Moore @ ` Saqib Shaikh ` emacspeak brian Moore ` emacspeak Janina Sajka ` emacspeak Ann Parsons ` emacspeak Dave Hunt < 2 siblings, 2 replies; 37+ messages in thread From: Saqib Shaikh @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi Brian, First of all there is an Emacspeak list. As for reading, there is the Emacspeak guide, and tutorial. All of this is available at emacspeak.sourceforge.net. As a quick answer to the rate question - you need to do c-e d r. You can make this apply to all buffers rather than just the current buffer by doing c-u c-e d r. Saqib ----- Original Message ----- From: "brian Moore" <admin@bmoore.yi.org> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 11:51 AM Subject: emacspeak > HI all, I am primarily a speakup user on my linux system, however, > yesterday, I was able to get emacspeak and via voice to actually work > on my rh 7.3 system and would like to give this thing a really good > try. I suspect there is a list for it but don't know where. > > also, does anyone have any quick pointers to docs I can read or > something to get familiar with using it and what things I may need to > install to try mail, web browsing etc? also, one urgent question. > the default speech rate is intolerabally slow. I thought I could do it > with control e and then I think f1 but couldn't get it to happen. > would like to get that changed asap because reading at that speed > drives me mad. > > thanks. Brian. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 37+ messages in thread
* Re: emacspeak ` emacspeak Saqib Shaikh @ ` brian Moore ` emacspeak Janina Sajka 1 sibling, 0 replies; 37+ messages in thread From: brian Moore @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup thanks much. Brian. *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 5/19/02 at 12:05 PM Saqib Shaikh wrote: >Hi Brian, > >First of all there is an Emacspeak list. As for reading, there is the >Emacspeak guide, and tutorial. All of this is available at >emacspeak.sourceforge.net. > >As a quick answer to the rate question - you need to do c-e d r. You can >make this apply to all buffers rather than just the current buffer by doing >c-u c-e d r. > >Saqib >----- Original Message ----- >From: "brian Moore" <admin@bmoore.yi.org> >To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> >Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 11:51 AM >Subject: emacspeak > > >> HI all, I am primarily a speakup user on my linux system, however, >> yesterday, I was able to get emacspeak and via voice to actually work >> on my rh 7.3 system and would like to give this thing a really good >> try. I suspect there is a list for it but don't know where. >> >> also, does anyone have any quick pointers to docs I can read or >> something to get familiar with using it and what things I may need to >> install to try mail, web browsing etc? also, one urgent question. >> the default speech rate is intolerabally slow. I thought I could do it >> with control e and then I think f1 but couldn't get it to happen. >> would like to get that changed asap because reading at that speed >> drives me mad. >> >> thanks. Brian. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 37+ messages in thread
* Re: emacspeak ` emacspeak Saqib Shaikh ` emacspeak brian Moore @ ` Janina Sajka ` emacspeak brian Moore ` emacspeak Dave Hunt < 1 sibling, 2 replies; 37+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup If you want to set the rate by default on launch, rather than setting it by hand every time you launch, do something like the following in your $HOME/.emacs file: (declare (special outloud-default-speech-rate dtk-default-speech-rate)) (setq-default dtk-default-speech-rate 285 outloud-default-speech-rate 95) (tts-configure-synthesis-setup) (dtk-set-rate tts-default-speech-rate t) PS: One of the cooler emacspeak features is the calendar. Check it out with an m-x calendar. Read about the cool things you can do with your calendar in the info pages. Too bad there's no straight forward way to may your calendar mobility sensitive, i.e. it's fairly tied to stationary computing. On Sun, 19 May 2002, Saqib Shaikh wrote: > Hi Brian, > > First of all there is an Emacspeak list. As for reading, there is the > Emacspeak guide, and tutorial. All of this is available at > emacspeak.sourceforge.net. > > As a quick answer to the rate question - you need to do c-e d r. You can > make this apply to all buffers rather than just the current buffer by doing > c-u c-e d r. > > Saqib > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "brian Moore" <admin@bmoore.yi.org> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 11:51 AM > Subject: emacspeak > > > > HI all, I am primarily a speakup user on my linux system, however, > > yesterday, I was able to get emacspeak and via voice to actually work > > on my rh 7.3 system and would like to give this thing a really good > > try. I suspect there is a list for it but don't know where. > > > > also, does anyone have any quick pointers to docs I can read or > > something to get familiar with using it and what things I may need to > > install to try mail, web browsing etc? also, one urgent question. > > the default speech rate is intolerabally slow. I thought I could do it > > with control e and then I think f1 but couldn't get it to happen. > > would like to get that changed asap because reading at that speed > > drives me mad. > > > > thanks. Brian. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 37+ messages in thread
* Re: emacspeak ` emacspeak Janina Sajka @ ` brian Moore ` emacspeak Dave Hunt < 1 sibling, 0 replies; 37+ messages in thread From: brian Moore @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup HI all. thanks for the help. will play with this stuff and see how I make out. i think I can get this going and if I can get e-mail and w3 browsing working, I can finally scrap windows on my main work station. still have to keep a box around and play with it enough not to forget how to support it at work but can loose it at home for the most part which would be really cool. thanks. brian. *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 5/19/02 at 1:29 PM Janina Sajka wrote: >If you want to set the rate by default on launch, rather than >setting it by hand every time you launch, do something like the >following in your $HOME/.emacs file: > >(declare (special >outloud-default-speech-rate dtk-default-speech-rate)) >(setq-default dtk-default-speech-rate 285 >outloud-default-speech-rate 95) >(tts-configure-synthesis-setup) >(dtk-set-rate tts-default-speech-rate t) > > >PS: One of the cooler emacspeak features is the calendar. Check >it out with an m-x calendar. Read about the cool things you can >do with your calendar in the info pages. > >Too bad there's no straight forward way to may your calendar >mobility sensitive, i.e. it's fairly tied to stationary >computing. > >On Sun, 19 May 2002, Saqib Shaikh wrote: > >> Hi Brian, >> >> First of all there is an Emacspeak list. As for reading, there is the >> Emacspeak guide, and tutorial. All of this is available at >> emacspeak.sourceforge.net. >> >> As a quick answer to the rate question - you need to do c-e d r. You can >> make this apply to all buffers rather than just the current buffer by doing >> c-u c-e d r. >> >> Saqib >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "brian Moore" <admin@bmoore.yi.org> >> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> >> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 11:51 AM >> Subject: emacspeak >> >> >> > HI all, I am primarily a speakup user on my linux system, however, >> > yesterday, I was able to get emacspeak and via voice to actually work >> > on my rh 7.3 system and would like to give this thing a really good >> > try. I suspect there is a list for it but don't know where. >> > >> > also, does anyone have any quick pointers to docs I can read or >> > something to get familiar with using it and what things I may need to >> > install to try mail, web browsing etc? also, one urgent question. >> > the default speech rate is intolerabally slow. I thought I could do it >> > with control e and then I think f1 but couldn't get it to happen. >> > would like to get that changed asap because reading at that speed >> > drives me mad. >> > >> > thanks. Brian. >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Speakup mailing list >> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > >-- > > Janina Sajka, Director > Technology Research and Development > Governmental Relations Group > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > >Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > >Chair, Accessibility SIG >Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) >http://www.openebook.org > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 37+ messages in thread
* Re: emacspeak ` emacspeak Janina Sajka ` emacspeak brian Moore @ ` Dave Hunt < 1 sibling, 0 replies; 37+ messages in thread From: Dave Hunt < @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Thanks for the tip on setting my default speech rate at startup. I had been doing a simple (setq outloud-default-speech-rate 100), but, in order to get the rate to that value, I had to stop and restart the synth. -Dave ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 37+ messages in thread
* emacspeak ` emacspeak brian Moore ` emacspeak Saqib Shaikh @ ` Ann Parsons ` emacspeak Janina Sajka ` emacspeak Dave Hunt < 2 siblings, 1 reply; 37+ messages in thread From: Ann Parsons @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi all, Well now, Brian. First of all, try c-e dr for rate and choose 1-9 as your range of options. Second, if you type c-h e you will get a list of emacspeak key bindings for various commands. Third typing c-h t will plunk you into a tutorial for emacs. that's how you learn emacspeak, learn emacs. Finally, Try c-h i. If you have this configured properly, it should plunk you into the info files for everything you need. I don't know what things may be different when using software speech, but try things, see what works. As for accompanying programs. Try w3 for your browser and vm for your mailer. Both have been speech enabled for Emacs. that should get you started. Ann P. -- Ann K. Parsons email: akp@eznet.net ICQ Number: 33006854 WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp "All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are lost." JRRT ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 37+ messages in thread
* Re: emacspeak ` emacspeak Ann Parsons @ ` Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 0 replies; 37+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup On Sun, 19 May 2002, Ann Parsons wrote: > As for accompanying programs. Try w3 for your browser and vm for your > mailer. Both have been speech enabled for Emacs. > Caution, caution, caution. There are various ways of handling mailboxes, and they're not compatible with one another. You need to read the info pages on converting mailbox formats before pointing vm, or rmail at your inbox (or any other mail folder), or risk not being able to get back to messages you want to read in Pine or mutt. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 37+ messages in thread
* emacspeak ` emacspeak brian Moore ` emacspeak Saqib Shaikh ` emacspeak Ann Parsons @ ` Dave Hunt < 2 siblings, 0 replies; 37+ messages in thread From: Dave Hunt < @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hello Brian: I'm using emacspeak and viavoice on a RH 7.2 system. In addition to emacspeak, I'm using the VM package for mail (available from <http://www.wonderworks.com>), and the W3 web browser. To set the default speech rate globally, first, do 'ctrl-u', followed by a positive number, then, 'ctrl-e' d r. Choose a higher rate (the default is 50 of 100). I max it out. Finally, there's an emacspeak list at <emacspeak-request@cs.vassar.edu>. There is documentation at the blinux site <http://www.leb.net/blinux>, among other places. More questions? Write me off list, <dave.hunt2@verizon.net>. -Dave ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 37+ messages in thread
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* Re: emacspeak [not found] <E175EXw-0003n8-00@speech.braille.uwo.ca> @ ` Thomas Ward 0 siblings, 0 replies; 37+ messages in thread From: Thomas Ward @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Well, Viavoice in my case acted strange using Alsa, and so I just ended up configuring my soundcard using the kernel drivers and the problem went away. So I haven't tested it in a while to see if it has changed, and haven't felt like trying it again. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 37+ messages in thread
* emacspeak @ Igor Gueths ` emacspeak Adam Myrow ` emacspeak Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 2 replies; 37+ messages in thread From: Igor Gueths @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi Janina and Hi all. Janina, I understand you are on the Emacspeak list as well as the Speakup list, as I have subscribed to it. Do you or anyone else, for that matter, know if Speakup interferes with i/o even after you hit print-screen and Speakup is killed so I can start Emacspeak? Because I have been getting basically I/o errors when testing the dtk-exp speech server with tcl. Does anyone know if this is the case? Because I was mainly going to use it for possibly Emacs itself (I've been digging around Emacs docs for quite a while), and possibly running something like Tnt. Can Tnt run under a Bash console, since it runs under a sort of shell anyway? The only difference is that it is inside of Emacs not at a regular Tcsh/Bash prompt? Any insite on this would be appreciated. Thanks! ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 37+ messages in thread
* Re: emacspeak emacspeak Igor Gueths @ ` Adam Myrow ` emacspeak Alex Snow ` emacspeak Igor Gueths ` emacspeak Janina Sajka 1 sibling, 2 replies; 37+ messages in thread From: Adam Myrow @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup If you are using the Dectalk Express with Speakup, you can't use it with Emacsspeak at the same time because Speakup takes over the serial port and makes it not exist to the kernel. You'll have to add an entry to Lilo that boots your system and passes "speakup_synth=none." Then, boot with that entry when you want to use Emacsspeak. Alternately, use a different synthesizer for Emacsspeak from Speakup. For example, Via Voice Outloud with Emacsspeak and the Dectalk Express with Speakup. Good luck. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 37+ messages in thread
* Re: emacspeak ` emacspeak Adam Myrow @ ` Alex Snow ` emacspeak Igor Gueths ` emacspeak Igor Gueths 1 sibling, 1 reply; 37+ messages in thread From: Alex Snow @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Or you can just use software speach. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adam Myrow" <myrow@eskimo.com> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 7:20 PM Subject: Re: emacspeak > If you are using the Dectalk Express with Speakup, you can't use it with > Emacsspeak at the same time because Speakup takes over the serial port and > makes it not exist to the kernel. You'll have to add an entry to Lilo > that boots your system and passes "speakup_synth=none." Then, boot with > that entry when you want to use Emacsspeak. Alternately, use a different > synthesizer for Emacsspeak from Speakup. For example, Via Voice Outloud > with Emacsspeak and the Dectalk Express with Speakup. Good luck. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 37+ messages in thread
* Re: emacspeak ` emacspeak Alex Snow @ ` Igor Gueths ` emacspeak Alex Snow 0 siblings, 1 reply; 37+ messages in thread From: Igor Gueths @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi Alex. Does Viavoice work with the Alsa modules? Because I could look at getting it working if it works with Alsa. On Mon, 6 May 2002, Alex Snow wrote: > Or you can just use software speach. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Adam Myrow" <myrow@eskimo.com> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 7:20 PM > Subject: Re: emacspeak > > > > If you are using the Dectalk Express with Speakup, you can't use it with > > Emacsspeak at the same time because Speakup takes over the serial port and > > makes it not exist to the kernel. You'll have to add an entry to Lilo > > that boots your system and passes "speakup_synth=none." Then, boot with > > that entry when you want to use Emacsspeak. Alternately, use a different > > synthesizer for Emacsspeak from Speakup. For example, Via Voice Outloud > > with Emacsspeak and the Dectalk Express with Speakup. Good luck. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 37+ messages in thread
* Re: emacspeak ` emacspeak Igor Gueths @ ` Alex Snow ` emacspeak 'Georgina' 0 siblings, 1 reply; 37+ messages in thread From: Alex Snow @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Far as I know it works with alsa. If it doesn't there are other options like some embrola thing I heard about once. You might want to give viavoice a try first. Hope this helps, Alex Snow email: alex8887@hotmail.com BBS: Telnet://bbs1.dyndns.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 8:04 PM Subject: Re: emacspeak > Hi Alex. Does Viavoice work with the Alsa modules? Because I could look at > getting it working if it works with Alsa. > > On Mon, 6 May 2002, Alex Snow wrote: > > > Or you can just use software speach. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Adam Myrow" <myrow@eskimo.com> > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > > Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 7:20 PM > > Subject: Re: emacspeak > > > > > > > If you are using the Dectalk Express with Speakup, you can't use it with > > > Emacsspeak at the same time because Speakup takes over the serial port and > > > makes it not exist to the kernel. You'll have to add an entry to Lilo > > > that boots your system and passes "speakup_synth=none." Then, boot with > > > that entry when you want to use Emacsspeak. Alternately, use a different > > > synthesizer for Emacsspeak from Speakup. For example, Via Voice Outloud > > > with Emacsspeak and the Dectalk Express with Speakup. Good luck. > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 37+ messages in thread
* Re: emacspeak ` emacspeak Alex Snow @ ` 'Georgina' 0 siblings, 0 replies; 37+ messages in thread From: 'Georgina' @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi I may be wrong but I think that a number of people couldn't get Via Voice to work with the alsa drivers. I couldn't some months ago and I'm just been playing with flite but alsa gets in the way again. Gena Blindness Advocacy and Self Help Online www.bashonline.org >Far as I know it works with alsa. If it doesn't there are other options >like some embrola thing I heard about once. You might want to give viavoice >a try first. >Hope this helps, >Alex Snow >email: alex8887@hotmail.com >BBS: Telnet://bbs1.dyndns.org >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com> >To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> >Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 8:04 PM >Subject: Re: emacspeak > > >> Hi Alex. Does Viavoice work with the Alsa modules? Because I could look at >> getting it working if it works with Alsa. >> >> On Mon, 6 May 2002, Alex Snow wrote: >> >> > Or you can just use software speach. >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Adam Myrow" <myrow@eskimo.com> >> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> >> > Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 7:20 PM >> > Subject: Re: emacspeak >> > >> > >> > > If you are using the Dectalk Express with Speakup, you can't use it >with >> > > Emacsspeak at the same time because Speakup takes over the serial port >and >> > > makes it not exist to the kernel. You'll have to add an entry to Lilo >> > > that boots your system and passes "speakup_synth=none." Then, boot >with >> > > that entry when you want to use Emacsspeak. Alternately, use a >different >> > > synthesizer for Emacsspeak from Speakup. For example, Via Voice >Outloud >> > > with Emacsspeak and the Dectalk Express with Speakup. Good luck. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Speakup mailing list >> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Speakup mailing list >> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 37+ messages in thread
* Re: emacspeak ` emacspeak Adam Myrow ` emacspeak Alex Snow @ ` Igor Gueths ` emacspeak Adam Myrow 1 sibling, 1 reply; 37+ messages in thread From: Igor Gueths @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi Adam. So Speakup basically hides the /dev/ttyS0, where the Dectalk is connected, from the kernel? So when I reboot I can type emacspeak and have it talking I suppose? Also, can I pass speakup_synth=none at the boot prompt instead of eding lilo.conf? Thanks! On Mon, 6 May 2002, Adam Myrow wrote: > If you are using the Dectalk Express with Speakup, you can't use it with > Emacsspeak at the same time because Speakup takes over the serial port and > makes it not exist to the kernel. You'll have to add an entry to Lilo > that boots your system and passes "speakup_synth=none." Then, boot with > that entry when you want to use Emacsspeak. Alternately, use a different > synthesizer for Emacsspeak from Speakup. For example, Via Voice Outloud > with Emacsspeak and the Dectalk Express with Speakup. Good luck. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 37+ messages in thread
* Re: emacspeak ` emacspeak Igor Gueths @ ` Adam Myrow 0 siblings, 0 replies; 37+ messages in thread From: Adam Myrow @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Sure, you can pass anything you like at the boot prompt. However, if you already have an append line in your lilo.conf, I don't know how that will work. That's why I like to copy tne lilo entry with a different append line with the "speakup_synth=none" line so I can choose easily at boot time whether I want Speakup or not. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 37+ messages in thread
* Re: emacspeak emacspeak Igor Gueths ` emacspeak Adam Myrow @ ` Janina Sajka ` emacspeak Igor Gueths 1 sibling, 1 reply; 37+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Speakup and emacspeak can share the same hardware synth. This issue was resolved some time ago. On Mon, 6 May 2002, Igor Gueths wrote: > Hi Janina and Hi all. Janina, I understand you are on the Emacspeak list > as well as the Speakup list, as I have subscribed to it. Do you or anyone > else, for that matter, know if Speakup interferes with i/o even after you > hit print-screen and Speakup is killed so I can start Emacspeak? Because I > have been getting basically I/o errors when testing the dtk-exp speech > server with tcl. Does anyone know if this is the case? Because I was > mainly going to use it for possibly Emacs itself (I've been digging around > Emacs docs for quite a while), and possibly running something like Tnt. > Can Tnt run under a Bash console, since it runs under a sort of shell > anyway? The only difference is that it is inside of Emacs not at a regular > Tcsh/Bash prompt? Any insite on this would be appreciated. Thanks! > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 37+ messages in thread
* Re: emacspeak ` emacspeak Janina Sajka @ ` Igor Gueths ` emacspeak Buddy Brannan ` emacspeak Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 2 replies; 37+ messages in thread From: Igor Gueths @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi all. Where can I find the resolution to this issue? What keywords should I search for in the vassar archives? Thanks! On Mon, 6 May 2002, Janina Sajka wrote: > Speakup and emacspeak can share the same hardware synth. > > This issue was resolved some time ago. > > On Mon, 6 May 2002, Igor Gueths wrote: > > > Hi Janina and Hi all. Janina, I understand you are on the Emacspeak list > > as well as the Speakup list, as I have subscribed to it. Do you or anyone > > else, for that matter, know if Speakup interferes with i/o even after you > > hit print-screen and Speakup is killed so I can start Emacspeak? Because I > > have been getting basically I/o errors when testing the dtk-exp speech > > server with tcl. Does anyone know if this is the case? Because I was > > mainly going to use it for possibly Emacs itself (I've been digging around > > Emacs docs for quite a while), and possibly running something like Tnt. > > Can Tnt run under a Bash console, since it runs under a sort of shell > > anyway? The only difference is that it is inside of Emacs not at a regular > > Tcsh/Bash prompt? Any insite on this would be appreciated. Thanks! > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Director > Technology Research and Development > Governmental Relations Group > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > http://www.openebook.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 37+ messages in thread
* Re: emacspeak ` emacspeak Igor Gueths @ ` Buddy Brannan ` emacspeak Janina Sajka 1 sibling, 0 replies; 37+ messages in thread From: Buddy Brannan @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup I believe that the issue has only (sort-of) been resolved if you happen to use a Doubletalk or a Doubletalk LT or Litetalk. Otherwise...it has not. I could be wrong though, and I hope I am actually. (It's happened before...) -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV/3 | I choose you to take up all of my time. Email: davros@ycardz.com | I choose you because you're funny and kind | I want easy people from now on. | --the Nields ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 37+ messages in thread
* Re: emacspeak ` emacspeak Igor Gueths ` emacspeak Buddy Brannan @ ` Janina Sajka ` emacspeak Ann Parsons ` emacspeak Igor Gueths 1 sibling, 2 replies; 37+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Igor: What happens when you launch emacspeak? I presume you boot with Speakup. So, what happens when you launch Emacspeak? On Mon, 6 May 2002, Igor Gueths wrote: > Hi all. Where can I find the resolution to this issue? What keywords > should I search for in the vassar archives? Thanks! > > On Mon, 6 May 2002, Janina Sajka wrote: > > > Speakup and emacspeak can share the same hardware synth. > > > > This issue was resolved some time ago. > > > > On Mon, 6 May 2002, Igor Gueths wrote: > > > > > Hi Janina and Hi all. Janina, I understand you are on the Emacspeak list > > > as well as the Speakup list, as I have subscribed to it. Do you or anyone > > > else, for that matter, know if Speakup interferes with i/o even after you > > > hit print-screen and Speakup is killed so I can start Emacspeak? Because I > > > have been getting basically I/o errors when testing the dtk-exp speech > > > server with tcl. Does anyone know if this is the case? Because I was > > > mainly going to use it for possibly Emacs itself (I've been digging around > > > Emacs docs for quite a while), and possibly running something like Tnt. > > > Can Tnt run under a Bash console, since it runs under a sort of shell > > > anyway? The only difference is that it is inside of Emacs not at a regular > > > Tcsh/Bash prompt? Any insite on this would be appreciated. Thanks! > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > -- > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > Technology Research and Development > > Governmental Relations Group > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 37+ messages in thread
* Re: emacspeak ` emacspeak Janina Sajka @ ` Ann Parsons ` emacspeak Janina Sajka ` emacspeak Igor Gueths 1 sibling, 1 reply; 37+ messages in thread From: Ann Parsons @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi all, You have to turn off Speakup in the buffer/console you're using for emacspeak. Ann P. -- Ann K. Parsons email: akp@eznet.net ICQ Number: 33006854 WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp "All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are lost." JRRT ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 37+ messages in thread
* Re: emacspeak ` emacspeak Ann Parsons @ ` Janina Sajka ` emacspeak Ann Parsons 0 siblings, 1 reply; 37+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup And, you might want to turn Speakup on from time to time, when you find you don't quite recall how to do something with Emacspeak. On Tue, 7 May 2002, Ann Parsons wrote: > Hi all, > > You have to turn off Speakup in the buffer/console you're using for > emacspeak. > > Ann P. > > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 37+ messages in thread
* Re: emacspeak ` emacspeak Janina Sajka @ ` Ann Parsons ` emacspeak Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 1 reply; 37+ messages in thread From: Ann Parsons @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi all, You can't do that, Janina, or at least I don't think you can. You can read with the numpad options in speakup while in Emacspeak, but if you turn on speaking mode in speakup, it will louse everything up. Ann P. -- Ann K. Parsons email: akp@eznet.net ICQ Number: 33006854 WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp "All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are lost." JRRT ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 37+ messages in thread
* Re: emacspeak ` emacspeak Ann Parsons @ ` Janina Sajka ` emacspeak Ann Parsons 0 siblings, 1 reply; 37+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Why? Is my system so very different from everyone else's? On Tue, 7 May 2002, Ann Parsons wrote: > Hi all, > > You can't do that, Janina, or at least I don't think you can. You can > read with the numpad options in speakup while in Emacspeak, but if you > turn on speaking mode in speakup, it will louse everything up. > > Ann P. > > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 37+ messages in thread
* Re: emacspeak ` emacspeak Janina Sajka @ ` Ann Parsons 0 siblings, 0 replies; 37+ messages in thread From: Ann Parsons @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi all, No, Janina, I have just discovered that I can't use both in the same console cuz they will doublespeak, at least that's what Matt told me. I have never attempted to find out what might happen. I can use speakup fine in other consoles, but not in the one with emacspeak. Ann P. -- Ann K. Parsons email: akp@eznet.net ICQ Number: 33006854 WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp "All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are lost." JRRT ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 37+ messages in thread
* Re: emacspeak ` emacspeak Janina Sajka ` emacspeak Ann Parsons @ ` Igor Gueths ` emacspeak Janina Sajka 1 sibling, 1 reply; 37+ messages in thread From: Igor Gueths @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi Janina. Well what happens is that first, I hit pint screen to so-called kill Speakup. Next, I type emacspeak. When I get Speakup up again to see why I got a \a (bell character), I see that at the bottom it says process speaker not running. I believe that this has to do with the i/o errors I was getting while trying to test the speech server with tcl. Also, I might be getting another dectalk express sometime in the future. If I plug that into my other serial port /dev/ttyS1, and re-export the dtk_port variable, could this possibly fix the problem? Or possibly using viavoice instead? Thanks! ----- Original Message ----- From: Janina Sajka <janina@afb.net> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 11:43 PM Subject: Re: emacspeak > Igor: > > What happens when you launch emacspeak? > > I presume you boot with Speakup. So, what happens when you > launch Emacspeak? > On Mon, 6 May 2002, Igor Gueths wrote: > > > Hi all. Where can I find the resolution to this issue? What keywords > > should I search for in the vassar archives? Thanks! > > > > On Mon, 6 May 2002, Janina Sajka wrote: > > > > > Speakup and emacspeak can share the same hardware synth. > > > > > > This issue was resolved some time ago. > > > > > > On Mon, 6 May 2002, Igor Gueths wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Janina and Hi all. Janina, I understand you are on the Emacspeak list > > > > as well as the Speakup list, as I have subscribed to it. Do you or anyone > > > > else, for that matter, know if Speakup interferes with i/o even after you > > > > hit print-screen and Speakup is killed so I can start Emacspeak? Because I > > > > have been getting basically I/o errors when testing the dtk-exp speech > > > > server with tcl. Does anyone know if this is the case? Because I was > > > > mainly going to use it for possibly Emacs itself (I've been digging around > > > > Emacs docs for quite a while), and possibly running something like Tnt. > > > > Can Tnt run under a Bash console, since it runs under a sort of shell > > > > anyway? The only difference is that it is inside of Emacs not at a regular > > > > Tcsh/Bash prompt? Any insite on this would be appreciated. Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > > Technology Research and Development > > > Governmental Relations Group > > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Director > Technology Research and Development > Governmental Relations Group > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > http://www.openebook.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 37+ messages in thread
* Re: emacspeak ` emacspeak Igor Gueths @ ` Janina Sajka ` emacspeak Igor Gueths 0 siblings, 1 reply; 37+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi, Igor: If you're getting errors in tcl, then you should expect emacspeak will break, as indeed you've discovered. By all means, try ViaVoice, and also try the second synth approach. I suspect you'll prefer the latter approach because ViaVoice tends to prevent other audio from playing. Another way to get at the issue of whether it's a conflict with Speakup is to try your tcl commands without Speakup loaded. You should be able to do this even without sighted assistance if you get eflite and yasr. On Tue, 7 May 2002, Igor Gueths wrote: > Hi Janina. Well what happens is that first, I hit pint screen to so-called kill Speakup. Next, I type emacspeak. When I get Speakup up again to see why I got a \a (bell character), I see that at the bottom it says process speaker not running. I believe that this has to do with the i/o errors I was getting while trying to test the speech server with tcl. Also, I might be getting another dectalk express sometime in the future. If I plug that into my other serial port /dev/ttyS1, and re-export the dtk_port variable, could this possibly fix the problem? Or possibly using viavoice instead? Thanks! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Janina Sajka <janina@afb.net> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 11:43 PM > Subject: Re: emacspeak > > > > Igor: > > > > What happens when you launch emacspeak? > > > > I presume you boot with Speakup. So, what happens when you > > launch Emacspeak? > > On Mon, 6 May 2002, Igor Gueths wrote: > > > > > Hi all. Where can I find the resolution to this issue? What keywords > > > should I search for in the vassar archives? Thanks! > > > > > > On Mon, 6 May 2002, Janina Sajka wrote: > > > > > > > Speakup and emacspeak can share the same hardware synth. > > > > > > > > This issue was resolved some time ago. > > > > > > > > On Mon, 6 May 2002, Igor Gueths wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Janina and Hi all. Janina, I understand you are on the Emacspeak list > > > > > as well as the Speakup list, as I have subscribed to it. Do you or anyone > > > > > else, for that matter, know if Speakup interferes with i/o even after you > > > > > hit print-screen and Speakup is killed so I can start Emacspeak? Because I > > > > > have been getting basically I/o errors when testing the dtk-exp speech > > > > > server with tcl. Does anyone know if this is the case? Because I was > > > > > mainly going to use it for possibly Emacs itself (I've been digging around > > > > > Emacs docs for quite a while), and possibly running something like Tnt. > > > > > Can Tnt run under a Bash console, since it runs under a sort of shell > > > > > anyway? The only difference is that it is inside of Emacs not at a regular > > > > > Tcsh/Bash prompt? Any insite on this would be appreciated. Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > > > Technology Research and Development > > > > Governmental Relations Group > > > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > > > > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > -- > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > Technology Research and Development > > Governmental Relations Group > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 37+ messages in thread
* Re: emacspeak ` emacspeak Janina Sajka @ ` Igor Gueths ` emacspeak Igor Gueths ` emacspeak Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 2 replies; 37+ messages in thread From: Igor Gueths @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi Janina. Are eflite and yasr packages which will echo commands to the serial port? I'll have to see if I find them somewhere. Or, I could pass speakup_synth=none reboot and see if emacspeak will work. ----- Original Message ----- From: Janina Sajka <janina@afb.net> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 4:47 PM Subject: Re: emacspeak > Hi, Igor: > > If you're getting errors in tcl, then you should expect emacspeak > will break, as indeed you've discovered. > > By all means, try ViaVoice, and also try the second synth > approach. I suspect you'll prefer the latter approach because > ViaVoice tends to prevent other audio from playing. > > Another way to get at the issue of whether it's a conflict with > Speakup is to try your tcl commands without Speakup loaded. You > should be able to do this even without sighted assistance if you > get eflite and yasr. > > On Tue, 7 May 2002, Igor Gueths wrote: > > > Hi Janina. Well what happens is that first, I hit pint screen to so-called kill Speakup. Next, I type emacspeak. When I get Speakup up again to see why I got a \a (bell character), I see that at the bottom it says process speaker not running. I believe that this has to do with the i/o errors I was getting while trying to test the speech server with tcl. Also, I might be getting another dectalk express sometime in the future. If I plug that into my other serial port /dev/ttyS1, and re-export the dtk_port variable, could this possibly fix the problem? Or possibly using viavoice instead? Thanks! > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Janina Sajka <janina@afb.net> > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > > Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 11:43 PM > > Subject: Re: emacspeak > > > > > > > Igor: > > > > > > What happens when you launch emacspeak? > > > > > > I presume you boot with Speakup. So, what happens when you > > > launch Emacspeak? > > > On Mon, 6 May 2002, Igor Gueths wrote: > > > > > > > Hi all. Where can I find the resolution to this issue? What keywords > > > > should I search for in the vassar archives? Thanks! > > > > > > > > On Mon, 6 May 2002, Janina Sajka wrote: > > > > > > > > > Speakup and emacspeak can share the same hardware synth. > > > > > > > > > > This issue was resolved some time ago. > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 6 May 2002, Igor Gueths wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Janina and Hi all. Janina, I understand you are on the Emacspeak list > > > > > > as well as the Speakup list, as I have subscribed to it. Do you or anyone > > > > > > else, for that matter, know if Speakup interferes with i/o even after you > > > > > > hit print-screen and Speakup is killed so I can start Emacspeak? Because I > > > > > > have been getting basically I/o errors when testing the dtk-exp speech > > > > > > server with tcl. Does anyone know if this is the case? Because I was > > > > > > mainly going to use it for possibly Emacs itself (I've been digging around > > > > > > Emacs docs for quite a while), and possibly running something like Tnt. > > > > > > Can Tnt run under a Bash console, since it runs under a sort of shell > > > > > > anyway? The only difference is that it is inside of Emacs not at a regular > > > > > > Tcsh/Bash prompt? Any insite on this would be appreciated. Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > > > > Technology Research and Development > > > > > Governmental Relations Group > > > > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > > > > > > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > > > > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > > > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > > > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > > Technology Research and Development > > > Governmental Relations Group > > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Director > Technology Research and Development > Governmental Relations Group > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > http://www.openebook.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 37+ messages in thread
* Re: emacspeak ` emacspeak Igor Gueths @ ` Igor Gueths ` emacspeak Janina Sajka 1 sibling, 0 replies; 37+ messages in thread From: Igor Gueths @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi Janina. Upon looking at yasr docs, I probably will just stick to the lilo aproach for now, because this is a true test, and then there won't be any i/o from the serial port. I'll try it sometime and tell you what happens. ----- Original Message ----- From: Igor Gueths <igueths@attbi.com> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 5:17 PM Subject: Re: emacspeak Hi Janina. Are eflite and yasr packages which will echo commands to the serial port? I'll have to see if I find them somewhere. Or, I could pass speakup_synth=none reboot and see if emacspeak will work. ----- Original Message ----- From: Janina Sajka <janina@afb.net> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 4:47 PM Subject: Re: emacspeak > Hi, Igor: > > If you're getting errors in tcl, then you should expect emacspeak > will break, as indeed you've discovered. > > By all means, try ViaVoice, and also try the second synth > approach. I suspect you'll prefer the latter approach because > ViaVoice tends to prevent other audio from playing. > > Another way to get at the issue of whether it's a conflict with > Speakup is to try your tcl commands without Speakup loaded. You > should be able to do this even without sighted assistance if you > get eflite and yasr. > > On Tue, 7 May 2002, Igor Gueths wrote: > > > Hi Janina. Well what happens is that first, I hit pint screen to so-called kill Speakup. Next, I type emacspeak. When I get Speakup up again to see why I got a \a (bell character), I see that at the bottom it says process speaker not running. I believe that this has to do with the i/o errors I was getting while trying to test the speech server with tcl. Also, I might be getting another dectalk express sometime in the future. If I plug that into my other serial port /dev/ttyS1, and re-export the dtk_port variable, could this possibly fix the problem? Or possibly using viavoice instead? Thanks! > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Janina Sajka <janina@afb.net> > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > > Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 11:43 PM > > Subject: Re: emacspeak > > > > > > > Igor: > > > > > > What happens when you launch emacspeak? > > > > > > I presume you boot with Speakup. So, what happens when you > > > launch Emacspeak? > > > On Mon, 6 May 2002, Igor Gueths wrote: > > > > > > > Hi all. Where can I find the resolution to this issue? What keywords > > > > should I search for in the vassar archives? Thanks! > > > > > > > > On Mon, 6 May 2002, Janina Sajka wrote: > > > > > > > > > Speakup and emacspeak can share the same hardware synth. > > > > > > > > > > This issue was resolved some time ago. > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 6 May 2002, Igor Gueths wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Janina and Hi all. Janina, I understand you are on the Emacspeak list > > > > > > as well as the Speakup list, as I have subscribed to it. Do you or anyone > > > > > > else, for that matter, know if Speakup interferes with i/o even after you > > > > > > hit print-screen and Speakup is killed so I can start Emacspeak? Because I > > > > > > have been getting basically I/o errors when testing the dtk-exp speech > > > > > > server with tcl. Does anyone know if this is the case? Because I was > > > > > > mainly going to use it for possibly Emacs itself (I've been digging around > > > > > > Emacs docs for quite a while), and possibly running something like Tnt. > > > > > > Can Tnt run under a Bash console, since it runs under a sort of shell > > > > > > anyway? The only difference is that it is inside of Emacs not at a regular > > > > > > Tcsh/Bash prompt? Any insite on this would be appreciated. Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > > > > Technology Research and Development > > > > > Governmental Relations Group > > > > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > > > > > > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > > > > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > > > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > > > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > > Technology Research and Development > > > Governmental Relations Group > > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Director > Technology Research and Development > Governmental Relations Group > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > http://www.openebook.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 37+ messages in thread
* Re: emacspeak ` emacspeak Igor Gueths ` emacspeak Igor Gueths @ ` Janina Sajka ` emacspeak Alex Snow 1 sibling, 1 reply; 37+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi, Igor: The eflite package provides screen review for yasr, and a speech server for emacspeak using the flite speech synthesizer. So, it's all software, except for your sound card's chips. The order is: 1.) Compile and install flite 2.) Compile and install eflite 3.) compile and install yasr -- and/or wire the eflite server for emacspeak. Look at http://eflite.sf.net I used yasr and eflite all the way fromWashington to Honolulu last Friday--until my batteries gave out. It isn't Speakup, but it's pretty good, and was sure useful when I couldn't use hardware speech. On Tue, 7 May 2002, Igor Gueths wrote: > Hi Janina. Are eflite and yasr packages which will echo commands to the serial port? I'll have to see if I find them somewhere. Or, I could pass speakup_synth=none reboot and see if emacspeak will work. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Janina Sajka <janina@afb.net> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 4:47 PM > Subject: Re: emacspeak > > > > Hi, Igor: > > > > If you're getting errors in tcl, then you should expect emacspeak > > will break, as indeed you've discovered. > > > > By all means, try ViaVoice, and also try the second synth > > approach. I suspect you'll prefer the latter approach because > > ViaVoice tends to prevent other audio from playing. > > > > Another way to get at the issue of whether it's a conflict with > > Speakup is to try your tcl commands without Speakup loaded. You > > should be able to do this even without sighted assistance if you > > get eflite and yasr. > > > > On Tue, 7 May 2002, Igor Gueths wrote: > > > > > Hi Janina. Well what happens is that first, I hit pint screen to so-called kill Speakup. Next, I type emacspeak. When I get Speakup up again to see why I got a \a (bell character), I see that at the bottom it says process speaker not running. I believe that this has to do with the i/o errors I was getting while trying to test the speech server with tcl. Also, I might be getting another dectalk express sometime in the future. If I plug that into my other serial port /dev/ttyS1, and re-export the dtk_port variable, could this possibly fix the problem? Or possibly using viavoice instead? Thanks! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Janina Sajka <janina@afb.net> > > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > > > Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 11:43 PM > > > Subject: Re: emacspeak > > > > > > > > > > Igor: > > > > > > > > What happens when you launch emacspeak? > > > > > > > > I presume you boot with Speakup. So, what happens when you > > > > launch Emacspeak? > > > > On Mon, 6 May 2002, Igor Gueths wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi all. Where can I find the resolution to this issue? What keywords > > > > > should I search for in the vassar archives? Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 6 May 2002, Janina Sajka wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Speakup and emacspeak can share the same hardware synth. > > > > > > > > > > > > This issue was resolved some time ago. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 6 May 2002, Igor Gueths wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Janina and Hi all. Janina, I understand you are on the Emacspeak list > > > > > > > as well as the Speakup list, as I have subscribed to it. Do you or anyone > > > > > > > else, for that matter, know if Speakup interferes with i/o even after you > > > > > > > hit print-screen and Speakup is killed so I can start Emacspeak? Because I > > > > > > > have been getting basically I/o errors when testing the dtk-exp speech > > > > > > > server with tcl. Does anyone know if this is the case? Because I was > > > > > > > mainly going to use it for possibly Emacs itself (I've been digging around > > > > > > > Emacs docs for quite a while), and possibly running something like Tnt. > > > > > > > Can Tnt run under a Bash console, since it runs under a sort of shell > > > > > > > anyway? The only difference is that it is inside of Emacs not at a regular > > > > > > > Tcsh/Bash prompt? Any insite on this would be appreciated. Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > > > > > Technology Research and Development > > > > > > Governmental Relations Group > > > > > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > > > > > > > > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > > > > > > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > > > > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > > > > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > > > Technology Research and Development > > > > Governmental Relations Group > > > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > > > > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > -- > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > Technology Research and Development > > Governmental Relations Group > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 37+ messages in thread
* Re: emacspeak ` emacspeak Janina Sajka @ ` Alex Snow ` emacspeak Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 1 reply; 37+ messages in thread From: Alex Snow @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi All, What is eflite? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@afb.net> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 7:17 PM Subject: Re: emacspeak > Hi, Igor: > > The eflite package provides screen review for yasr, and a speech > server for emacspeak using the flite speech synthesizer. So, it's > all software, except for your sound card's chips. The order is: > > 1.) Compile and install flite > 2.) Compile and install eflite > 3.) compile and install yasr -- and/or wire the eflite > server for emacspeak. > > Look at http://eflite.sf.net > > I used yasr and eflite all the way fromWashington to Honolulu > last Friday--until my batteries gave out. It isn't Speakup, but > it's pretty good, and was sure useful when I couldn't use > hardware speech. > > On Tue, 7 May 2002, Igor Gueths wrote: > > > Hi Janina. Are eflite and yasr packages which will echo commands to the serial port? I'll have to see if I find them somewhere. Or, I could pass speakup_synth=none reboot and see if emacspeak will work. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Janina Sajka <janina@afb.net> > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 4:47 PM > > Subject: Re: emacspeak > > > > > > > Hi, Igor: > > > > > > If you're getting errors in tcl, then you should expect emacspeak > > > will break, as indeed you've discovered. > > > > > > By all means, try ViaVoice, and also try the second synth > > > approach. I suspect you'll prefer the latter approach because > > > ViaVoice tends to prevent other audio from playing. > > > > > > Another way to get at the issue of whether it's a conflict with > > > Speakup is to try your tcl commands without Speakup loaded. You > > > should be able to do this even without sighted assistance if you > > > get eflite and yasr. > > > > > > On Tue, 7 May 2002, Igor Gueths wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Janina. Well what happens is that first, I hit pint screen to so-called kill Speakup. Next, I type emacspeak. When I get Speakup up again to see why I got a \a (bell character), I see that at the bottom it says process speaker not running. I believe that this has to do with the i/o errors I was getting while trying to test the speech server with tcl. Also, I might be getting another dectalk express sometime in the future. If I plug that into my other serial port /dev/ttyS1, and re-export the dtk_port variable, could this possibly fix the problem? Or possibly using viavoice instead? Thanks! > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Janina Sajka <janina@afb.net> > > > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > > > > Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 11:43 PM > > > > Subject: Re: emacspeak > > > > > > > > > > > > > Igor: > > > > > > > > > > What happens when you launch emacspeak? > > > > > > > > > > I presume you boot with Speakup. So, what happens when you > > > > > launch Emacspeak? > > > > > On Mon, 6 May 2002, Igor Gueths wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all. Where can I find the resolution to this issue? What keywords > > > > > > should I search for in the vassar archives? Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 6 May 2002, Janina Sajka wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Speakup and emacspeak can share the same hardware synth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This issue was resolved some time ago. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 6 May 2002, Igor Gueths wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Janina and Hi all. Janina, I understand you are on the Emacspeak list > > > > > > > > as well as the Speakup list, as I have subscribed to it. Do you or anyone > > > > > > > > else, for that matter, know if Speakup interferes with i/o even after you > > > > > > > > hit print-screen and Speakup is killed so I can start Emacspeak? Because I > > > > > > > > have been getting basically I/o errors when testing the dtk-exp speech > > > > > > > > server with tcl. Does anyone know if this is the case? Because I was > > > > > > > > mainly going to use it for possibly Emacs itself (I've been digging around > > > > > > > > Emacs docs for quite a while), and possibly running something like Tnt. > > > > > > > > Can Tnt run under a Bash console, since it runs under a sort of shell > > > > > > > > anyway? The only difference is that it is inside of Emacs not at a regular > > > > > > > > Tcsh/Bash prompt? Any insite on this would be appreciated. Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > > > > > > Technology Research and Development > > > > > > > Governmental Relations Group > > > > > > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > > > > > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > > > > > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > > > > Technology Research and Development > > > > > Governmental Relations Group > > > > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > > > > > > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > > > > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > > > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > > > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > > Technology Research and Development > > > Governmental Relations Group > > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Director > Technology Research and Development > Governmental Relations Group > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > http://www.openebook.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 37+ messages in thread
* Re: emacspeak ` emacspeak Alex Snow @ ` Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 0 replies; 37+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup As I said in my message, it's software. Read the provided url to learn more. On Wed, 8 May 2002, Alex Snow wrote: > Hi All, > What is eflite? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@afb.net> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 7:17 PM > Subject: Re: emacspeak > > > > Hi, Igor: > > > > The eflite package provides screen review for yasr, and a speech > > server for emacspeak using the flite speech synthesizer. So, it's > > all software, except for your sound card's chips. The order is: > > > > 1.) Compile and install flite > > 2.) Compile and install eflite > > 3.) compile and install yasr -- and/or wire the eflite > > server for emacspeak. > > > > Look at http://eflite.sf.net > > > > I used yasr and eflite all the way fromWashington to Honolulu > > last Friday--until my batteries gave out. It isn't Speakup, but > > it's pretty good, and was sure useful when I couldn't use > > hardware speech. > > > > On Tue, 7 May 2002, Igor Gueths wrote: > > > > > Hi Janina. Are eflite and yasr packages which will echo commands to the > serial port? I'll have to see if I find them somewhere. Or, I could pass > speakup_synth=none reboot and see if emacspeak will work. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Janina Sajka <janina@afb.net> > > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 4:47 PM > > > Subject: Re: emacspeak > > > > > > > > > > Hi, Igor: > > > > > > > > If you're getting errors in tcl, then you should expect emacspeak > > > > will break, as indeed you've discovered. > > > > > > > > By all means, try ViaVoice, and also try the second synth > > > > approach. I suspect you'll prefer the latter approach because > > > > ViaVoice tends to prevent other audio from playing. > > > > > > > > Another way to get at the issue of whether it's a conflict with > > > > Speakup is to try your tcl commands without Speakup loaded. You > > > > should be able to do this even without sighted assistance if you > > > > get eflite and yasr. > > > > > > > > On Tue, 7 May 2002, Igor Gueths wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Janina. Well what happens is that first, I hit pint screen to > so-called kill Speakup. Next, I type emacspeak. When I get Speakup up again > to see why I got a \a (bell character), I see that at the bottom it says > process speaker not running. I believe that this has to do with the i/o > errors I was getting while trying to test the speech server with tcl. Also, > I might be getting another dectalk express sometime in the future. If I plug > that into my other serial port /dev/ttyS1, and re-export the dtk_port > variable, could this possibly fix the problem? Or possibly using viavoice > instead? Thanks! > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: Janina Sajka <janina@afb.net> > > > > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > > > > > Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 11:43 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: emacspeak > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Igor: > > > > > > > > > > > > What happens when you launch emacspeak? > > > > > > > > > > > > I presume you boot with Speakup. So, what happens when you > > > > > > launch Emacspeak? > > > > > > On Mon, 6 May 2002, Igor Gueths wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all. Where can I find the resolution to this issue? What > keywords > > > > > > > should I search for in the vassar archives? Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 6 May 2002, Janina Sajka wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Speakup and emacspeak can share the same hardware synth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This issue was resolved some time ago. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 6 May 2002, Igor Gueths wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Janina and Hi all. Janina, I understand you are on the > Emacspeak list > > > > > > > > > as well as the Speakup list, as I have subscribed to it. Do > you or anyone > > > > > > > > > else, for that matter, know if Speakup interferes with i/o > even after you > > > > > > > > > hit print-screen and Speakup is killed so I can start > Emacspeak? Because I > > > > > > > > > have been getting basically I/o errors when testing the > dtk-exp speech > > > > > > > > > server with tcl. Does anyone know if this is the case? > Because I was > > > > > > > > > mainly going to use it for possibly Emacs itself (I've been > digging around > > > > > > > > > Emacs docs for quite a while), and possibly running > something like Tnt. > > > > > > > > > Can Tnt run under a Bash console, since it runs under a sort > of shell > > > > > > > > > anyway? The only difference is that it is inside of Emacs > not at a regular > > > > > > > > > Tcsh/Bash prompt? Any insite on this would be appreciated. > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > > > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > > > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > > > > > > > Technology Research and Development > > > > > > > > Governmental Relations Group > > > > > > > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > > > > > > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > > > > > > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > > > > > Technology Research and Development > > > > > > Governmental Relations Group > > > > > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > > > > > > > > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > > > > > > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > > > > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > > > > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > > > Technology Research and Development > > > > Governmental Relations Group > > > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > > > > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > -- > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > Technology Research and Development > > Governmental Relations Group > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 37+ messages in thread
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