From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from rwcrmhc54.attbi.com ([216.148.227.87]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 175CQQ-0005g4-00 for ; Tue, 07 May 2002 17:23:10 -0400 Received: from mycomputer ([24.62.33.141]) by rwcrmhc54.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020507212241.DSEO25765.rwcrmhc54.attbi.com@mycomputer> for ; Tue, 7 May 2002 21:22:41 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c1f60d$201465e0$02213e18@mycomputer> From: "Igor Gueths" To: References: <001b01c1f60c$a4eb2980$02213e18@mycomputer> Subject: Re: emacspeak Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 17:21:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca Errors-To: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Janina. Upon looking at yasr docs, I probably will just stick to the = lilo aproach for now, because this is a true test, and then there won't = be any i/o from the serial port. I'll try it sometime and tell you what = happens.=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Igor Gueths To: Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 5:17 PM Subject: Re: emacspeak Hi Janina. Are eflite and yasr packages which will echo commands to the = serial port? I'll have to see if I find them somewhere. Or, I could pass = speakup_synth=3Dnone reboot and see if emacspeak will work.=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Janina Sajka To: Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 4:47 PM Subject: Re: emacspeak > Hi, Igor: >=20 > If you're getting errors in tcl, then you should expect emacspeak > will break, as indeed you've discovered. >=20 > By all means, try ViaVoice, and also try the second synth > approach. I suspect you'll prefer the latter approach because > ViaVoice tends to prevent other audio from playing. >=20 > Another way to get at the issue of whether it's a conflict with > Speakup is to try your tcl commands without Speakup loaded. You > should be able to do this even without sighted assistance if you > get eflite and yasr. >=20 > On Tue, 7 May 2002, Igor Gueths wrote: >=20 > > Hi Janina. Well what happens is that first, I hit pint screen to = so-called kill Speakup. Next, I type emacspeak. When I get Speakup up = again to see why I got a \a (bell character), I see that at the bottom = it says process speaker not running. I believe that this has to do with = the i/o errors I was getting while trying to test the speech server with = tcl. Also, I might be getting another dectalk express sometime in the = future. If I plug that into my other serial port /dev/ttyS1, and = re-export the dtk_port variable, could this possibly fix the problem? Or = possibly using viavoice instead? Thanks! > > ----- Original Message -----=20 > > From: Janina Sajka > > To: > > Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 11:43 PM > > Subject: Re: emacspeak > >=20 > >=20 > > > Igor: > > >=20 > > > What happens when you launch emacspeak? > > >=20 > > > I presume you boot with Speakup. So, what happens when you > > > launch Emacspeak? > > > On Mon, 6 May 2002, Igor Gueths wrote: > > >=20 > > > > Hi all. Where can I find the resolution to this issue? What = keywords > > > > should I search for in the vassar archives? Thanks! > > > >=20 > > > > On Mon, 6 May 2002, Janina Sajka wrote: > > > >=20 > > > > > Speakup and emacspeak can share the same hardware synth. > > > > > > > > > > This issue was resolved some time ago. > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 6 May 2002, Igor Gueths wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Janina and Hi all. Janina, I understand you are on the = Emacspeak list > > > > > > as well as the Speakup list, as I have subscribed to it. Do = you or anyone > > > > > > else, for that matter, know if Speakup interferes with i/o = even after you > > > > > > hit print-screen and Speakup is killed so I can start = Emacspeak? Because I > > > > > > have been getting basically I/o errors when testing the = dtk-exp speech > > > > > > server with tcl. Does anyone know if this is the case? = Because I was > > > > > > mainly going to use it for possibly Emacs itself (I've been = digging around > > > > > > Emacs docs for quite a while), and possibly running = something like Tnt. > > > > > > Can Tnt run under a Bash console, since it runs under a sort = of shell > > > > > > anyway? The only difference is that it is inside of Emacs = not at a regular > > > > > > Tcsh/Bash prompt? 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