RE: Fedora, Good Newby howtos, mailing lists and downloads

RE: Fedora, Good Newby howtos, mailing lists and downloads

[Dawes, Stephen]

Janina,

As a suggestion, you may want to add a section on yum into your how-to. 

If you don't know yum, it is an easy-to-use command-line-based
application that does an excellent job of managing your rpms. Yum is
also very useful for doing such system activities as: 
Installing applications.
Removing applications.
Keeping your system up-to-date.
Doing system upgrades.
The overall advantage to yum is that it takes away all the guess work
when it comes to dependencies.

I have found a partial yum how-to at:
http://www.phy.duke.edu/~rgb/General/yum_HOWTO/yum_HOWTO/yum_HOWTO.html 
that you maybe able to use / modify for the speakup community.

The yum info page can be found at:
https://lists.linux.duke.edu/mailman/listinfo/yum

Otherwise, the How-to that I read on RH9 was easy to follow.

Just my thoughts for the future.

OH YEAH! I did an "yum upgrade" to fedora to see if it can be done, and
it worked like a charm. Once all was done, I re-started my computer and
was running fedora. Ain't life good!

Steve Dawes
Phone: (403) 268-5527
Email: SDawes@calgary.ca



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Re: Fedora, Good Newby howtos, mailing lists and downloads

[Darragh]

simple question really.  but I don't have the answer.  for installing the
kurnel I type the line
rpm -i kernel-2.4.22-2.nptlspk2.i686.rpm
and hit enter but I get an error message. any ideas why?
I've tried using the fool path as well with no change.

Darragh

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dawes, Stephen" <Stephen.Dawes@calgary.ca>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 3:27 PM
Subject: RE: Fedora, Good Newby howtos, mailing lists and downloads


Janina,

As a suggestion, you may want to add a section on yum into your how-to.

If you don't know yum, it is an easy-to-use command-line-based
application that does an excellent job of managing your rpms. Yum is
also very useful for doing such system activities as:
Installing applications.
Removing applications.
Keeping your system up-to-date.
Doing system upgrades.
The overall advantage to yum is that it takes away all the guess work
when it comes to dependencies.

I have found a partial yum how-to at:
http://www.phy.duke.edu/~rgb/General/yum_HOWTO/yum_HOWTO/yum_HOWTO.html
that you maybe able to use / modify for the speakup community.

The yum info page can be found at:
https://lists.linux.duke.edu/mailman/listinfo/yum

Otherwise, the How-to that I read on RH9 was easy to follow.

Just my thoughts for the future.

OH YEAH! I did an "yum upgrade" to fedora to see if it can be done, and
it worked like a charm. Once all was done, I re-started my computer and
was running fedora. Ain't life good!

Steve Dawes
Phone: (403) 268-5527
Email: SDawes@calgary.ca



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Re: Fedora, Good Newby howtos, mailing lists and downloads

[Janina Sajka]

Darragh writes:
> From: "Darragh" <lists@digitaldarragh.com>
> 
> simple question really.  but I don't have the answer.  for installing the
> kurnel I type the line
> rpm -i kernel-2.4.22-2.nptlspk2.i686.rpm
> and hit enter but I get an error message. any ideas why?

What error? And where, exactly, did this kernel come from? I'm asking
for the specifics as this same kernel name will show up in several
directories--dfor the reason that it's to be matched to the installed
system.

You can't mix. You have to match.


> I've tried using the fool path as well with no change.
> 
> Darragh
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dawes, Stephen" <Stephen.Dawes@calgary.ca>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 3:27 PM
> Subject: RE: Fedora, Good Newby howtos, mailing lists and downloads
> 
> 
> Janina,
> 
> As a suggestion, you may want to add a section on yum into your how-to.
> 
> If you don't know yum, it is an easy-to-use command-line-based
> application that does an excellent job of managing your rpms. Yum is
> also very useful for doing such system activities as:
> Installing applications.
> Removing applications.
> Keeping your system up-to-date.
> Doing system upgrades.
> The overall advantage to yum is that it takes away all the guess work
> when it comes to dependencies.
> 
> I have found a partial yum how-to at:
> http://www.phy.duke.edu/~rgb/General/yum_HOWTO/yum_HOWTO/yum_HOWTO.html
> that you maybe able to use / modify for the speakup community.
> 
> The yum info page can be found at:
> https://lists.linux.duke.edu/mailman/listinfo/yum
> 
> Otherwise, the How-to that I read on RH9 was easy to follow.
> 
> Just my thoughts for the future.
> 
> OH YEAH! I did an "yum upgrade" to fedora to see if it can be done, and
> it worked like a charm. Once all was done, I re-started my computer and
> was running fedora. Ain't life good!
> 
> Steve Dawes
> Phone: (403) 268-5527
> Email: SDawes@calgary.ca
> 
> 
> 
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> named above and may contain information that is confidential or legally
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Phone: (202) 408-8175

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American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
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Chair, Accessibility Work Group
Free Standards Group
http://accessibility.freestandards.org

Re: Fedora, Good Newby howtos, mailing lists and downloads

[Darragh]

Hello again,
well I eventually got it installed by typing rpm --force.
I found modules for all the other synths but the apolo and I then found the
C code for it.  I've checked the apolo module and am now recompiling the
kernel.  after this, assuming there are no errors I'll try to use make
install then modprobe speakup_apolo

The speakup I'm using is 2.0 from cvs.

I got it from:
ftp.linux-speakup.org/pub/speakup/disks/fedora/1/kernel-2.4.22-2.nptlspk2.i6
86.rpm

This matches the kernel information on the log in screen.

I had always thought that the line for starting speakup was
speakup_synth=APOLO when did this change or am I just messed up from all
this typing.

I have a feeling that I'm going to be undoing everything that I've done when
someone tells me there is a much easier way.

Oh, I got it back to run level 3 as well.  yay!

haha.

Oh the reason that the kernel wouldn't install is I forgot to change from
text to binary when copying it from my computer to the linux machine.  when
I tried to install it I was told that i was already there.  I used
the --force arguement to try it any way.

Darragh

gnome

[Darragh]

While this thing is compiling away, can I first say thanks to every one who
has helped me this far.  hmm, hopefully it compiles without errors now!

Can any one tell me how to get started with Gnopernicus?  I'm not going to
get to it until the weekend but while I'm waiting on things to lode I would
like to be reading up on it so I have an idea what to expect.

Thanks

Darragh

RE: Fedora, Good Newby howtos, mailing lists and downloads

[Joe Clever]

Stephen,

Could you clarify your last paragraph. Does this mean that you successfully
upgraded Red Hat 9 to Fedora using yum?


-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Dawes, Stephen
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 10:28 AM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: RE: Fedora, Good Newby howtos, mailing lists and downloads


Janina,

As a suggestion, you may want to add a section on yum into your how-to. 

If you don't know yum, it is an easy-to-use command-line-based
application that does an excellent job of managing your rpms. Yum is
also very useful for doing such system activities as: 
Installing applications.
Removing applications.
Keeping your system up-to-date.
Doing system upgrades.
The overall advantage to yum is that it takes away all the guess work
when it comes to dependencies.

I have found a partial yum how-to at:
http://www.phy.duke.edu/~rgb/General/yum_HOWTO/yum_HOWTO/yum_HOWTO.html 
that you maybe able to use / modify for the speakup community.

The yum info page can be found at:
https://lists.linux.duke.edu/mailman/listinfo/yum

Otherwise, the How-to that I read on RH9 was easy to follow.

Just my thoughts for the future.

OH YEAH! I did an "yum upgrade" to fedora to see if it can be done, and
it worked like a charm. Once all was done, I re-started my computer and
was running fedora. Ain't life good!

Steve Dawes
Phone: (403) 268-5527
Email: SDawes@calgary.ca



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upgrading the kernal

[Darragh]

hello again
i've tried reading the howto at
http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-7.3-Manual/custom-guide/s1-kernel-perform-upgrade.html
with no success.  note that link will bring you about three pages into the
howto but that's where I got the commands
rpm -uvh kernal name where kernel name was the file name.

I'm getting an error about a bad tag or something.

Re: upgrading the kernal

[Janina Sajka]

That's a HOWTO for Red Hat 7.3, which is woefully old news. Actually,
the particulars may not be that different, but it's generally best to be
as up to date as reasonably possible. Suggest following the 9.0 HOWTO's
until Fedora's are out.

The rpm command is fine. But, where did you get the kernel, and what's
it's name, exactly?


Darragh writes:
> From: "Darragh" <lists@digitaldarragh.com>
> 
> hello again
> i've tried reading the howto at
> http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-7.3-Manual/custom-guide/s1-kernel-perform-upgrade.html
> with no success.  note that link will bring you about three pages into the
> howto but that's where I got the commands
> rpm -uvh kernal name where kernel name was the file name.
> 
> I'm getting an error about a bad tag or something.
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Janina Sajka
Email: janina@rednote.net		
Phone: (202) 408-8175

Director, Technology Research and Development
American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
http://www.afb.org

Chair, Accessibility Work Group
Free Standards Group
http://accessibility.freestandards.org

RE: Fedora, Good Newby howtos, mailing lists and downloads

[Dawes, Stephen]

Yes!
Steve Dawes
Phone: (403) 268-5527
Email: SDawes@calgary.ca



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	-----Original Message-----
	From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca 
	[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Joe Clever
	Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 09:00 AM
	To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'
	Subject: RE: Fedora, Good Newby howtos, mailing lists 
	and downloads
	
	
	Stephen,
	
	Could you clarify your last paragraph. Does this mean 
	that you successfully upgraded Red Hat 9 to Fedora using yum?
	
	
	-----Original Message-----
	From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca 
	[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
	On Behalf Of Dawes, Stephen
	Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 10:28 AM
	To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
	Subject: RE: Fedora, Good Newby howtos, mailing lists 
	and downloads
	
	
	Janina,
	
	As a suggestion, you may want to add a section on yum 
	into your how-to. 
	
	If you don't know yum, it is an easy-to-use 
	command-line-based application that does an excellent 
	job of managing your rpms. Yum is also very useful for 
	doing such system activities as: 
	Installing applications.
	Removing applications.
	Keeping your system up-to-date.
	Doing system upgrades.
	The overall advantage to yum is that it takes away all 
	the guess work when it comes to dependencies.
	
	I have found a partial yum how-to at: 
	http://www.phy.duke.edu/~rgb/General/yum_HOWTO/yum_HOWTO
/yum_HOWTO.html 
that you maybe able to use / modify for the speakup community.

The yum info page can be found at:
https://lists.linux.duke.edu/mailman/listinfo/yum

Otherwise, the How-to that I read on RH9 was easy to follow.

Just my thoughts for the future.

OH YEAH! I did an "yum upgrade" to fedora to see if it can be done, and
it worked like a charm. Once all was done, I re-started my computer and
was running fedora. Ain't life good!

Steve Dawes
Phone: (403) 268-5527
Email: SDawes@calgary.ca



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RE: Fedora, Good Newby howtos, mailing lists and downloads

[Dawes, Stephen]

It depends what the error message is
Steve Dawes
Phone: (403) 268-5527
Email: SDawes@calgary.ca





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	-----Original Message-----
	From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca 
	[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Darragh
	Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 08:34 AM
	To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
	Subject: Re: Fedora, Good Newby howtos, mailing lists 
	and downloads
	
	
	simple question really.  but I don't have the answer.  
	for installing the kurnel I type the line rpm -i 
	kernel-2.4.22-2.nptlspk2.i686.rpm and hit enter but I 
	get an error message. any ideas why? I've tried using 
	the fool path as well with no change.
	
	Darragh
	
	----- Original Message ----- 
	From: "Dawes, Stephen" <Stephen.Dawes@calgary.ca>
	To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
	<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
	Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 3:27 PM
	Subject: RE: Fedora, Good Newby howtos, mailing lists 
	and downloads
	
	
	Janina,
	
	As a suggestion, you may want to add a section on yum 
	into your how-to.
	
	If you don't know yum, it is an easy-to-use 
	command-line-based application that does an excellent 
	job of managing your rpms. Yum is also very useful for 
	doing such system activities as: Installing 
	applications. Removing applications. Keeping your 
	system up-to-date. Doing system upgrades. The overall 
	advantage to yum is that it takes away all the guess 
	work when it comes to dependencies.
	
	I have found a partial yum how-to at: 
	http://www.phy.duke.edu/~rgb/General/yum_HOWTO/yum_HOWTO
/yum_HOWTO.html
that you maybe able to use / modify for the speakup community.

The yum info page can be found at:
https://lists.linux.duke.edu/mailman/listinfo/yum

Otherwise, the How-to that I read on RH9 was easy to follow.

Just my thoughts for the future.

OH YEAH! I did an "yum upgrade" to fedora to see if it can be done, and
it worked like a charm. Once all was done, I re-started my computer and
was running fedora. Ain't life good!

Steve Dawes
Phone: (403) 268-5527
Email: SDawes@calgary.ca



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Fragmented speech using Redhat 8.0 and Apollo2

[Sheila Acock]

\x7fHi,

Please don't shoot me down or tell me to go and read the documentation.
I was really keen to try Linux, and have spent many more hours than I
ought to have done reading documentation, but I can't say it came
together as a coherent whole, and I have had so many problems, I am
feeling quite discouraged.

 Having read the HowTo about installing Redhat with Speakup, I decided
to take the plunge and buy a box set in the hope that I could get a
system up  and running to play with fairly quickly.

I won't bore you with details of the problems encountered, but I now
have Redhat 8.0 running on a system with an Athlon 850  processor, with
250 mb memory and an Apollo2 synth.  The trouble is, the speech is so
disjointed I am having difficulty making much sense of it.

Looking back through the List archive, I see that a couple of people
reported a similar problem using Apollo2 and Redhat 8 back in February.
There did not seem to be a completely satisfactory solution, though one
person said that a suggestion involving "delay_time" and "jiffy_delta"
had helped to some extent.

I have signed up for Janina's pre-Techshare Linux workshop, but I don't
think I'm going to make much progresss until I can get reasonable
speech, so any help in sorting this problem would be much appreciated,
remembering that I am a complete newbie and need things spelt out in
words of one syllable.

Thanks.

Sheila.

Fedora, Good Newby howtos, mailing lists and downloads

[Darragh]

Hello,
I've being waiting for the release of Fedora 1.0 since early October as
I was told by numerous people that it would have gnopernicus pree
configured.  Now that the speakup modified version is up I'm just dying
to download it and have a good root around.  

However, I'm going to try to do the sensible thing first and spend the
first few days reading up on installation howtos and FAQ's.  Can any one
suggest a few?

I'm hoping to set up the following:
Fedora 1.0 with speakup.
Gnome with the Gnopernicus screen reader.
Some of the Gnopernicus supported applications.
Emacspeak
W3.
Vm.
I'm also hoping to use FTP to connect to the laptop which is running win
2000.  I have a linksys router which can act as a dhcp server as well.
They all connect with no problems in windows.

Oh, just one more thing, what do they mean by pree configured?  That
sounds like a simpol question, feel free to laugh at my lack of
experience.

Any suggestions very welcome


Darragh

Re: Fedora, Good Newby howtos, mailing lists and downloads

[Janina Sajka]

Darragh writes:
> 
> I've being waiting for the release of Fedora 1.0 since early October as
> I was told by numerous people that it would have gnopernicus pree
> configured.  Now that the speakup modified version is up I'm just dying
> to download it and have a good root around.  
> 
> However, I'm going to try to do the sensible thing first and spend the
> first few days reading up on installation howtos and FAQ's.  Can any one
> suggest a few?

Until we get the new installation HOWTO up, you may as well study the
current HOWTO for Red Hat 9. It's going to be very nearly the same:

http://www.linux-speakup.org/ftp/disks/redhat/HOWTO_INSTALL.html

> 
> I'm hoping to set up the following:
> Fedora 1.0 with speakup.
As of the moment, there's only a minor modification from how this is
done with Red Hat 9.

> Gnome with the Gnopernicus screen reader.
If you select "everything," as the HOWTO has always recommended, you'll
get this without extra effort.

> Some of the Gnopernicus supported applications.
I'm not sure what you're referring to, of course. But, if you're
referring to Mozilla and OpenOffice you're still very much on your own.
There is no single doc that I'm aware of that takes you through this in
the Fedora context.


> Emacspeak
> W3.
> Vm.
You're on your own for this, as you have been with Red Hat through many
generations of Red Hat releases. The Emacspeak shipped in Fedora Cora is
version 17.0, whereas 18.0-1 is current.

> I'm also hoping to use FTP to connect to the laptop which is running win
> 2000.  I have a linksys router which can act as a dhcp server as well.
> They all connect with no problems in windows.
If your LinkSys is serving up ip addresses, Linux can certainly accept
the assignment easily enough. There's no particular magic to using ftp
outbound from Linux, but your host has to be running an ftp server, of
course.

I would wager networking works far more easily and reliably on Linux--at
least in my experience.

> 
Methinks thou hast best inquire of "they" directly. I don't speak for
"they," whoever that might be.

> Oh, just one more thing, what do they mean by pree configured?  Thati
> sounds like a simpol question, feel free to laugh at my lack of
> experience.
> 
> Any suggestions very welcome
> 
> 
> Darragh
> 
> 
> 
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Email: janina@rednote.net		
Phone: (202) 408-8175

Director, Technology Research and Development
American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
http://www.afb.org

Chair, Accessibility Work Group
Free Standards Group
http://accessibility.freestandards.org

RE: Fedora, Good Newby howtos, mailing lists and downloads

[Darragh]

Hello, 
As always, you're a welth of information.  Thanks.
Yes, I was refairing to Mozilla but, I couldn't think of the name.  I'll
probably get comfortable with the basics for a while before trying any
of that.

Does any one know what freetts is like with gnopernicus?  I don't think
its usable with speakup yet is it?

Darragh

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
Sent: 08 November 2003 23:59
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: Fedora, Good Newby howtos, mailing lists and downloads


Darragh writes:
> 
> I've being waiting for the release of Fedora 1.0 since early October 
> as I was told by numerous people that it would have gnopernicus pree 
> configured.  Now that the speakup modified version is up I'm just 
> dying to download it and have a good root around.
> 
> However, I'm going to try to do the sensible thing first and spend the

> first few days reading up on installation howtos and FAQ's.  Can any 
> one suggest a few?

Until we get the new installation HOWTO up, you may as well study the
current HOWTO for Red Hat 9. It's going to be very nearly the same:

http://www.linux-speakup.org/ftp/disks/redhat/HOWTO_INSTALL.html

> 
> I'm hoping to set up the following:
> Fedora 1.0 with speakup.
As of the moment, there's only a minor modification from how this is
done with Red Hat 9.

> Gnome with the Gnopernicus screen reader.
If you select "everything," as the HOWTO has always recommended, you'll
get this without extra effort.

> Some of the Gnopernicus supported applications.
I'm not sure what you're referring to, of course. But, if you're
referring to Mozilla and OpenOffice you're still very much on your own.
There is no single doc that I'm aware of that takes you through this in
the Fedora context.


> Emacspeak
> W3.
> Vm.
You're on your own for this, as you have been with Red Hat through many
generations of Red Hat releases. The Emacspeak shipped in Fedora Cora is
version 17.0, whereas 18.0-1 is current.

> I'm also hoping to use FTP to connect to the laptop which is running 
> win 2000.  I have a linksys router which can act as a dhcp server as 
> well. They all connect with no problems in windows.
If your LinkSys is serving up ip addresses, Linux can certainly accept
the assignment easily enough. There's no particular magic to using ftp
outbound from Linux, but your host has to be running an ftp server, of
course.

I would wager networking works far more easily and reliably on Linux--at
least in my experience.

> 
Methinks thou hast best inquire of "they" directly. I don't speak for
"they," whoever that might be.

> Oh, just one more thing, what do they mean by pree configured?  Thati 
> sounds like a simpol question, feel free to laugh at my lack of 
> experience.
> 
> Any suggestions very welcome
> 
> 
> Darragh
> 
> 
> 
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca 
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Email: janina@rednote.net		
Phone: (202) 408-8175

Director, Technology Research and Development
American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
http://www.afb.org

Chair, Accessibility Work Group
Free Standards Group
http://accessibility.freestandards.org

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Re: Fedora, Good Newby howtos, mailing lists and downloads

[Janina Sajka]

FreeTTS sounds decent enough, imho. However, it can be a bit of a cludge
to get it installed and correctly configured.

But, the price is right! <grin>


Darragh writes:
> From: "Darragh" <lists@digitaldarragh.com>
> 
> Hello, 
> As always, you're a welth of information.  Thanks.
> Yes, I was refairing to Mozilla but, I couldn't think of the name.  I'll
> probably get comfortable with the basics for a while before trying any
> of that.
> 
> Does any one know what freetts is like with gnopernicus?  I don't think
> its usable with speakup yet is it?
> 
> Darragh
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
> Sent: 08 November 2003 23:59
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: Fedora, Good Newby howtos, mailing lists and downloads
> 
> 
> Darragh writes:
> > 
> > I've being waiting for the release of Fedora 1.0 since early October 
> > as I was told by numerous people that it would have gnopernicus pree 
> > configured.  Now that the speakup modified version is up I'm just 
> > dying to download it and have a good root around.
> > 
> > However, I'm going to try to do the sensible thing first and spend the
> 
> > first few days reading up on installation howtos and FAQ's.  Can any 
> > one suggest a few?
> 
> Until we get the new installation HOWTO up, you may as well study the
> current HOWTO for Red Hat 9. It's going to be very nearly the same:
> 
> http://www.linux-speakup.org/ftp/disks/redhat/HOWTO_INSTALL.html
> 
> > 
> > I'm hoping to set up the following:
> > Fedora 1.0 with speakup.
> As of the moment, there's only a minor modification from how this is
> done with Red Hat 9.
> 
> > Gnome with the Gnopernicus screen reader.
> If you select "everything," as the HOWTO has always recommended, you'll
> get this without extra effort.
> 
> > Some of the Gnopernicus supported applications.
> I'm not sure what you're referring to, of course. But, if you're
> referring to Mozilla and OpenOffice you're still very much on your own.
> There is no single doc that I'm aware of that takes you through this in
> the Fedora context.
> 
> 
> > Emacspeak
> > W3.
> > Vm.
> You're on your own for this, as you have been with Red Hat through many
> generations of Red Hat releases. The Emacspeak shipped in Fedora Cora is
> version 17.0, whereas 18.0-1 is current.
> 
> > I'm also hoping to use FTP to connect to the laptop which is running 
> > win 2000.  I have a linksys router which can act as a dhcp server as 
> > well. They all connect with no problems in windows.
> If your LinkSys is serving up ip addresses, Linux can certainly accept
> the assignment easily enough. There's no particular magic to using ftp
> outbound from Linux, but your host has to be running an ftp server, of
> course.
> 
> I would wager networking works far more easily and reliably on Linux--at
> least in my experience.
> 
> > 
> Methinks thou hast best inquire of "they" directly. I don't speak for
> "they," whoever that might be.
> 
> > Oh, just one more thing, what do they mean by pree configured?  Thati 
> > sounds like a simpol question, feel free to laugh at my lack of 
> > experience.
> > 
> > Any suggestions very welcome
> > 
> > 
> > Darragh
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca 
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> -- 
> 	
> Janina Sajka
> Email: janina@rednote.net		
> Phone: (202) 408-8175
> 
> Director, Technology Research and Development
> American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> http://www.afb.org
> 
> Chair, Accessibility Work Group
> Free Standards Group
> http://accessibility.freestandards.org
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

-- 
	
Janina Sajka
Email: janina@rednote.net		
Phone: (202) 408-8175

Director, Technology Research and Development
American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
http://www.afb.org

Chair, Accessibility Work Group
Free Standards Group
http://accessibility.freestandards.org