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From: "Darrell Shandrow" <nu7i@azboss.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Subject: Re: NFB Net goes linux!
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 12:45:25 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <000501c26270$9bbdc680$0201a8c0@NU7I> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020922121958.00a7c918@postoffice.pacbell.net>

Hi,

Yes; certainly.  When you call any business or organization requesting
information about their technology, ask for someone in their information
technology (IT) department.  That should get you some results.

Thanks.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bear in SFO" <BearSFO@PacBell.NET>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2002 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: NFB Net goes linux!


>
> Do you know who I should talk to?
>
> At 06:42 AM 9/22/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> >you have not spoken to the right people.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Bear in SFO" <BearSFO@PacBell.NET>
> >To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> >Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2002 12:33 AM
> >Subject: Re: NFB Net goes linux!
> >
> >
> >
> >Let me assure you, ACB have no clue what they are doing with their linux
> >box either - at least when I call them and ask about their server, the
> >answer I got was "well, it just sits here"
> >
> >--David
> >
> >At 08:19 PM 9/21/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> > >Hi Darrell,
> > >
> > >That's very true, Darrell, but what I'm objecting to is that the
> > >original message in the thread stated that telnet and the BBS features
> > >of their system would no longer be available.  This, I felt was short
> > >changing some of their members, and I thought it was too bad.  I
> > >wanted the techies to be more knowledgeable so that their members
> > >wouldn't have to give up telnet or BBS access.
> > >
> > ><smile>  No, I wasn't suggesting that the end users start using Linux
> > >out of the box, not at all.  What I was hoping to see was some
> > >evidence that they wanted to keep things as accessible as possible and
> > >keep the change-over as seamless as possible, thereby not losing any
> > >of their members.  Apparently, losing membership access is not
> > >important.  I think that is a shame, especially when it is a consumer
> > >based organization.  the offhand "we're sorry if this inconveniences
> > >anyone..." is a callous and a noncaring way to treat people, any
> > >people, and especially those who count on that particular means of
> > >access.
> > >
> > >For some, it may be their only way to talk with others and to learn
> > >about the world outside their own surcomscribed lives.  I think that
> > >the techies who run the machines at that organization would be
> > >astonished at the kinds of people who access their services and if
> > >they knew more about their constituency, they might not take such a
> > >cavalier attitude toward scrapping the telnet and the bbs services.
> > >
> > >I don't access their services, but as a netizen of some years, and one
> > >familiar with online communities, I can safely say that this BBS,
> > >whatever it is, is an online community and there are probably members
> > >of that community who need it.  They may not be the vocal members,
> > >they are probably the lurkers in the background who come on, take part
> > >in the community and consider it to be their home.  There may be
> > >others for whom this online community makes the difference between
> > >sanity and not.
> > >
> > >One doesn't destroy a community thoughtlessly with a paragraph or two
> > >couched in pretty phrases, not unless an alternative is offered.
> > >
> > >that is why the topic came up.  That is why I started this discussion.
> > >That is why I wrote to the original poster of the forwarded msg to ask
> > >about SSH to ask about alternatives.  I repeat.  You can not destroy a
> > >community thoughtlessly.
> > >
> > >Ann P.
> > >
> > >sy>>>>> "Darrell" == Darrell Shandrow <nu7i@azboss.net> writes:
> > >
> > >     Darrell> Hi Ann, Keep in mind that Linux is actually not
> > >     Darrell> appropriate for most users, especially the command-line
> > >     Darrell> interface.  Most people want their technology to be
> > >     Darrell> simple to operate.  They're not interested in how the
> > >     Darrell> computer works or anything of that sort.  They just want
> > >     Darrell> to use it to get work done!
> > >
> > >
> > >--
> > >                         Ann K. Parsons
> > >email:  akp@eznet.net                   ICQ Number:  33006854
> > >WEB SITE:  http://home.eznet.net/~akp
> > >"All that is gold does not glitter.  Not all those who wander are
> >lost."  JRRT
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44.0209200740230.1232-100000@tasha-yar.dorsai.o rg>
 ` Charles Crawford
   ` Ann Parsons
   ` Paul Migliorelli (+1 3 0 3 5 4 3 2 3 1 1)
     ` Ann Parsons
       ` Alex Snow
         ` Ryan Mann
           ` Scott B. Berry
             ` Ann Parsons
               ` Scott Howell
                 ` Ann Parsons
                 ` Steve Holmes
                   ` Scott Howell
               ` Darrell Shandrow
                 ` David Poehlman
                   ` Darrell Shandrow
                   ` Why I choose Linux, was " Kenny Hitt
                     ` Darrell Shandrow
                       ` Janina Sajka
                     ` Alex Snow
                       ` Bear in SFO
                     ` OCR -- Was "Why I Choose Linux" Janina Sajka
                       ` Gregory Nowak
                         ` Janina Sajka
                           ` Gregory Nowak
                             ` Scott Howell
                           ` Adam Myrow
                             ` Janina Sajka
                       ` Kenny Hitt
                 ` NFB Net goes linux! Ann Parsons
                   ` Darrell Shandrow
                     ` Raul A. Gallegos
     [not found]                 ` <15757.3213.253849.328221%akp@eznet.net>
                   ` David Poehlman
                   ` Bear in SFO
                     ` David Poehlman
                       ` Bear in SFO
                         ` Darrell Shandrow [this message]
                         ` Ann Parsons
                           ` Alex Snow
                             ` Scott B. Berry
                               ` Ann Parsons
                             ` Ann Parsons
                               ` Zinf command line ccrawford
                                 ` Steve Holmes
                                   ` Steve Holmes
                                     ` ccrawford
                                       ` Steve Holmes
                                         ` ccrawford
                                           ` Steve Holmes
                                         ` Janina Sajka
                                           ` Deedra Waters
                                   ` ccrawford
                                     ` Deedra Waters
                                       ` ccrawford
                     ` NFB Net goes linux! Ann Parsons
         ` Ann Parsons
           ` Buddy Brannan
             ` Erik Heil
             ` Scott Howell
             ` Darrell Shandrow
               ` Alex Snow
                 ` Darrell Shandrow
             ` Ann Parsons
               ` Raul A. Gallegos
                 ` David Poehlman
                 ` Ann Parsons
             ` Alex Snow
         ` Scott Howell
           ` Ann Parsons
           ` Alex Snow
             ` Mitchell Smith
     ` Darrell Shandrow
       ` David Poehlman
 Patricia Logan
 ` Alex Snow

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