From: "Darrell Shandrow" <nu7i@azboss.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Subject: Re: NFB Net goes linux!
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 12:45:25 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <000501c26270$9bbdc680$0201a8c0@NU7I> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020922121958.00a7c918@postoffice.pacbell.net>
Hi,
Yes; certainly. When you call any business or organization requesting
information about their technology, ask for someone in their information
technology (IT) department. That should get you some results.
Thanks.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bear in SFO" <BearSFO@PacBell.NET>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2002 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: NFB Net goes linux!
>
> Do you know who I should talk to?
>
> At 06:42 AM 9/22/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> >you have not spoken to the right people.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Bear in SFO" <BearSFO@PacBell.NET>
> >To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> >Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2002 12:33 AM
> >Subject: Re: NFB Net goes linux!
> >
> >
> >
> >Let me assure you, ACB have no clue what they are doing with their linux
> >box either - at least when I call them and ask about their server, the
> >answer I got was "well, it just sits here"
> >
> >--David
> >
> >At 08:19 PM 9/21/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> > >Hi Darrell,
> > >
> > >That's very true, Darrell, but what I'm objecting to is that the
> > >original message in the thread stated that telnet and the BBS features
> > >of their system would no longer be available. This, I felt was short
> > >changing some of their members, and I thought it was too bad. I
> > >wanted the techies to be more knowledgeable so that their members
> > >wouldn't have to give up telnet or BBS access.
> > >
> > ><smile> No, I wasn't suggesting that the end users start using Linux
> > >out of the box, not at all. What I was hoping to see was some
> > >evidence that they wanted to keep things as accessible as possible and
> > >keep the change-over as seamless as possible, thereby not losing any
> > >of their members. Apparently, losing membership access is not
> > >important. I think that is a shame, especially when it is a consumer
> > >based organization. the offhand "we're sorry if this inconveniences
> > >anyone..." is a callous and a noncaring way to treat people, any
> > >people, and especially those who count on that particular means of
> > >access.
> > >
> > >For some, it may be their only way to talk with others and to learn
> > >about the world outside their own surcomscribed lives. I think that
> > >the techies who run the machines at that organization would be
> > >astonished at the kinds of people who access their services and if
> > >they knew more about their constituency, they might not take such a
> > >cavalier attitude toward scrapping the telnet and the bbs services.
> > >
> > >I don't access their services, but as a netizen of some years, and one
> > >familiar with online communities, I can safely say that this BBS,
> > >whatever it is, is an online community and there are probably members
> > >of that community who need it. They may not be the vocal members,
> > >they are probably the lurkers in the background who come on, take part
> > >in the community and consider it to be their home. There may be
> > >others for whom this online community makes the difference between
> > >sanity and not.
> > >
> > >One doesn't destroy a community thoughtlessly with a paragraph or two
> > >couched in pretty phrases, not unless an alternative is offered.
> > >
> > >that is why the topic came up. That is why I started this discussion.
> > >That is why I wrote to the original poster of the forwarded msg to ask
> > >about SSH to ask about alternatives. I repeat. You can not destroy a
> > >community thoughtlessly.
> > >
> > >Ann P.
> > >
> > >sy>>>>> "Darrell" == Darrell Shandrow <nu7i@azboss.net> writes:
> > >
> > > Darrell> Hi Ann, Keep in mind that Linux is actually not
> > > Darrell> appropriate for most users, especially the command-line
> > > Darrell> interface. Most people want their technology to be
> > > Darrell> simple to operate. They're not interested in how the
> > > Darrell> computer works or anything of that sort. They just want
> > > Darrell> to use it to get work done!
> > >
> > >
> > >--
> > > Ann K. Parsons
> > >email: akp@eznet.net ICQ Number: 33006854
> > >WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp
> > >"All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are
> >lost." JRRT
> > >
> > >
> > >
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