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From: "Darrell Shandrow" <nu7i@azboss.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Subject: Re: NFB Net goes linux!
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 18:06:27 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <000a01c261d4$4aa2cee0$0201a8c0@NU7I> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <15757.3213.253849.328221@akp@eznet.net>

Hi Ann,

Good deal then.  We can agree on these points, and, yes, shame on NFB for
just suddenly getting RID of the NFB Net BBS.  I know they have been
experiencing some technical issues lately with their DSL connection and
such, but as far as I am aware, those were not systems related issues.  But,
then, I could have been missing something...

I am not totally surprised that NFB didn't tap their membership to find
people who had lots of Linux experience to determine a way to keep all
services.  Oh, well, then again, maybe they did, but they tapped the wrong
people.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Parsons" <akp@eznet.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: NFB Net goes linux!


> Hi Darrell,
>
> That's very true, Darrell, but what I'm objecting to is that the
> original message in the thread stated that telnet and the BBS features
> of their system would no longer be available.  This, I felt was short
> changing some of their members, and I thought it was too bad.  I
> wanted the techies to be more knowledgeable so that their members
> wouldn't have to give up telnet or BBS access.
>
> <smile>  No, I wasn't suggesting that the end users start using Linux
> out of the box, not at all.  What I was hoping to see was some
> evidence that they wanted to keep things as accessible as possible and
> keep the change-over as seamless as possible, thereby not losing any
> of their members.  Apparently, losing membership access is not
> important.  I think that is a shame, especially when it is a consumer
> based organization.  the offhand "we're sorry if this inconveniences
> anyone..." is a callous and a noncaring way to treat people, any
> people, and especially those who count on that particular means of
> access.
>
> For some, it may be their only way to talk with others and to learn
> about the world outside their own surcomscribed lives.  I think that
> the techies who run the machines at that organization would be
> astonished at the kinds of people who access their services and if
> they knew more about their constituency, they might not take such a
> cavalier attitude toward scrapping the telnet and the bbs services.
>
> I don't access their services, but as a netizen of some years, and one
> familiar with online communities, I can safely say that this BBS,
> whatever it is, is an online community and there are probably members
> of that community who need it.  They may not be the vocal members,
> they are probably the lurkers in the background who come on, take part
> in the community and consider it to be their home.  There may be
> others for whom this online community makes the difference between
> sanity and not.
>
> One doesn't destroy a community thoughtlessly with a paragraph or two
> couched in pretty phrases, not unless an alternative is offered.
>
> that is why the topic came up.  That is why I started this discussion.
> That is why I wrote to the original poster of the forwarded msg to ask
> about SSH to ask about alternatives.  I repeat.  You can not destroy a
> community thoughtlessly.
>
> Ann P.
>
> sy>>>>> "Darrell" == Darrell Shandrow <nu7i@azboss.net> writes:
>
>     Darrell> Hi Ann, Keep in mind that Linux is actually not
>     Darrell> appropriate for most users, especially the command-line
>     Darrell> interface.  Most people want their technology to be
>     Darrell> simple to operate.  They're not interested in how the
>     Darrell> computer works or anything of that sort.  They just want
>     Darrell> to use it to get work done!
>
>
> --
> Ann K. Parsons
> email:  akp@eznet.net ICQ Number:  33006854
> WEB SITE:  http://home.eznet.net/~akp
> "All that is gold does not glitter.  Not all those who wander are lost."
JRRT
>
>
>
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Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44.0209200740230.1232-100000@tasha-yar.dorsai.o rg>
 ` Charles Crawford
   ` Ann Parsons
   ` Paul Migliorelli (+1 3 0 3 5 4 3 2 3 1 1)
     ` Ann Parsons
       ` Alex Snow
         ` Ryan Mann
           ` Scott B. Berry
             ` Ann Parsons
               ` Scott Howell
                 ` Ann Parsons
                 ` Steve Holmes
                   ` Scott Howell
               ` Darrell Shandrow
                 ` David Poehlman
                   ` Darrell Shandrow
                   ` Why I choose Linux, was " Kenny Hitt
                     ` Darrell Shandrow
                       ` Janina Sajka
                     ` Alex Snow
                       ` Bear in SFO
                     ` OCR -- Was "Why I Choose Linux" Janina Sajka
                       ` Gregory Nowak
                         ` Janina Sajka
                           ` Gregory Nowak
                             ` Scott Howell
                           ` Adam Myrow
                             ` Janina Sajka
                       ` Kenny Hitt
                 ` NFB Net goes linux! Ann Parsons
                   ` Darrell Shandrow [this message]
                     ` Raul A. Gallegos
     [not found]                 ` <15757.3213.253849.328221%akp@eznet.net>
                   ` David Poehlman
                   ` Bear in SFO
                     ` David Poehlman
                       ` Bear in SFO
                         ` Darrell Shandrow
                         ` Ann Parsons
                           ` Alex Snow
                             ` Scott B. Berry
                               ` Ann Parsons
                             ` Ann Parsons
                               ` Zinf command line ccrawford
                                 ` Steve Holmes
                                   ` Steve Holmes
                                     ` ccrawford
                                       ` Steve Holmes
                                         ` ccrawford
                                           ` Steve Holmes
                                         ` Janina Sajka
                                           ` Deedra Waters
                                   ` ccrawford
                                     ` Deedra Waters
                                       ` ccrawford
                     ` NFB Net goes linux! Ann Parsons
         ` Ann Parsons
           ` Buddy Brannan
             ` Erik Heil
             ` Scott Howell
             ` Darrell Shandrow
               ` Alex Snow
                 ` Darrell Shandrow
             ` Ann Parsons
               ` Raul A. Gallegos
                 ` David Poehlman
                 ` Ann Parsons
             ` Alex Snow
         ` Scott Howell
           ` Ann Parsons
           ` Alex Snow
             ` Mitchell Smith
     ` Darrell Shandrow
       ` David Poehlman
 Patricia Logan
 ` Alex Snow

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