Re: NFB Net goes linux!

["David Poehlman" <poehlman1@comcast.net>]

you have not spoken to the right people.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bear in SFO" <BearSFO@PacBell.NET>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2002 12:33 AM
Subject: Re: NFB Net goes linux!



Let me assure you, ACB have no clue what they are doing with their linux
box either - at least when I call them and ask about their server, the
answer I got was "well, it just sits here"

--David

At 08:19 PM 9/21/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi Darrell,
>
>That's very true, Darrell, but what I'm objecting to is that the
>original message in the thread stated that telnet and the BBS features
>of their system would no longer be available.  This, I felt was short
>changing some of their members, and I thought it was too bad.  I
>wanted the techies to be more knowledgeable so that their members
>wouldn't have to give up telnet or BBS access.
>
><smile>  No, I wasn't suggesting that the end users start using Linux
>out of the box, not at all.  What I was hoping to see was some
>evidence that they wanted to keep things as accessible as possible and
>keep the change-over as seamless as possible, thereby not losing any
>of their members.  Apparently, losing membership access is not
>important.  I think that is a shame, especially when it is a consumer
>based organization.  the offhand "we're sorry if this inconveniences
>anyone..." is a callous and a noncaring way to treat people, any
>people, and especially those who count on that particular means of
>access.
>
>For some, it may be their only way to talk with others and to learn
>about the world outside their own surcomscribed lives.  I think that
>the techies who run the machines at that organization would be
>astonished at the kinds of people who access their services and if
>they knew more about their constituency, they might not take such a
>cavalier attitude toward scrapping the telnet and the bbs services.
>
>I don't access their services, but as a netizen of some years, and one
>familiar with online communities, I can safely say that this BBS,
>whatever it is, is an online community and there are probably members
>of that community who need it.  They may not be the vocal members,
>they are probably the lurkers in the background who come on, take part
>in the community and consider it to be their home.  There may be
>others for whom this online community makes the difference between
>sanity and not.
>
>One doesn't destroy a community thoughtlessly with a paragraph or two
>couched in pretty phrases, not unless an alternative is offered.
>
>that is why the topic came up.  That is why I started this discussion.
>That is why I wrote to the original poster of the forwarded msg to ask
>about SSH to ask about alternatives.  I repeat.  You can not destroy a
>community thoughtlessly.
>
>Ann P.
>
>sy>>>>> "Darrell" == Darrell Shandrow <nu7i@azboss.net> writes:
>
>     Darrell> Hi Ann, Keep in mind that Linux is actually not
>     Darrell> appropriate for most users, especially the command-line
>     Darrell> interface.  Most people want their technology to be
>     Darrell> simple to operate.  They're not interested in how the
>     Darrell> computer works or anything of that sort.  They just want
>     Darrell> to use it to get work done!
>
>
>--
>                         Ann K. Parsons
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>
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