* Problem with accented characters
@ Cleverson
` Zachary Kline
` (2 more replies)
0 siblings, 3 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Cleverson @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup
Hello all
I use eSpeak through Speech-Dispatcher. My native language is brazilian
Portuguese. In addition to the conventional alphabet and numbers and
punctuations, We use some characters that are out of ASCII range but not out
of Ansi range, that is, they are between 128 and 255. For example, the
characters "à, ê, í, õ, ú" correspond respectively to the ansi numbers 224,
234, 237, 245 and 250.
I placed all these characters in the /proc/speakup/characters file and did a
cat, but they are not being spoken when typed, nor read in the middle of
words as well.
My locale is "pt_BR.ISO-8859-1", and I know that the related characters are
perfectly displayed at screen, but when I navigate through letters in a
word, nothing is spoken in places of any accented letter.
I was wondering if chartab may have something to do with this problem. What
do mean these codes in chartab, such as "
B_CTL,
WDLM,
A_PUNC,
A_CAP,
ALPHA,
B_SYM", etc etc?
Any suggestion please to help me solving this issue?
Many thanks
Cleverson
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Problem with accented characters Cleverson
@ ` Zachary Kline
` Gregory Nowak
` Hynek Hanke
2 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Zachary Kline @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Hiya,
Another option might be to use the native Espeak language support for PTBR.
I think this requires modification of one or two files in
/etc/speech-dispatcher, but am not sure.
Maybe you should try looking into this?
Hope this works,
Zack.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Cleverson" <clever92000@yahoo.com.br>
To: "Speakup" <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 7:13 PM
Subject: Problem with accented characters
Hello all
I use eSpeak through Speech-Dispatcher. My native language is brazilian
Portuguese. In addition to the conventional alphabet and numbers and
punctuations, We use some characters that are out of ASCII range but not out
of Ansi range, that is, they are between 128 and 255. For example, the
characters "à, ê, í, õ, ú" correspond respectively to the ansi numbers 224,
234, 237, 245 and 250.
I placed all these characters in the /proc/speakup/characters file and did a
cat, but they are not being spoken when typed, nor read in the middle of
words as well.
My locale is "pt_BR.ISO-8859-1", and I know that the related characters are
perfectly displayed at screen, but when I navigate through letters in a
word, nothing is spoken in places of any accented letter.
I was wondering if chartab may have something to do with this problem. What
do mean these codes in chartab, such as "
B_CTL,
WDLM,
A_PUNC,
A_CAP,
ALPHA,
B_SYM", etc etc?
Any suggestion please to help me solving this issue?
Many thanks
Cleverson
"Be realistic; ask for the impossible."
_______________________________________________________
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* Re: Problem with accented characters
Problem with accented characters Cleverson
` Zachary Kline
@ ` Gregory Nowak
` almost solved, was " Cleverson
` Hynek Hanke
2 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
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On Sat, Mar 17, 2007 at 11:13:54PM -0300, Cleverson wrote:
> I was wondering if chartab may have something to do with this
problem.
Yes, it does.
> What
> do mean these codes in chartab, such as "
These are educated guesses, so I do stand to be corrected. I just
figured them out by having a look at the default chartab, since they
do seem to be self-explanatory for the most part. I've placed the
descriptions below the codes.
> B_CTL,
>
Binary control. These would be characters like ASCII 1-26.
> WDLM,
>
White-space delimiter. I think the only one that exists is ASCII 32.
> A_PUNC,
>
Alphabetic punctuation. These would be things like period, exclamation
point, question mark, ETC.
> A_CAP,
>
Alphabetic capital. In U.S. ASCII these would be 65-90.
> ALPHA,
>
Probably alphabetic. The opposite of A_CAP. In U.S. ASCII, these would be 97-122.
> B_SYM", etc etc?
>
Binary symbol. These would be 130-255 in U.S ASCII. They're the
opposite of B_CAP_SYM (probably binary capital symbol), but don't ask
me what the difference between these 2 is. As far as I know, a binary
symbol is just a binary symbol.
Again, these are just educated guesses, so I do stand to be corrected,
but hth somewhat.
Greg
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` Gregory Nowak
@ ` Cleverson
` Michael Whapples
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Cleverson @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Hello,
Thank you Zack and Greg. I replaced the codes for bynary letters with codes
for alphabetic letters in chartab where apropriate, and now Speakup is
reading the accented letters.
However, when an accented letter apears in the middle of a word, it
pronounces that word as they were two words, one from the begining til the
accented letter and another from there to the end of the word. Is it
possible to configure what characters are word delimiters and what are not?
Thanks,
Cleverson
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` almost solved, was " Cleverson
@ ` Michael Whapples
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Michael Whapples @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
I believe that the latest speechd-up rewrites the char tables in speakup to
allow for internationalisation unless the appropiate option is given to
speechd-up when loading it. Unfortunately I can't help much further than
this as I only speak english and there are no characters I need to concern
myself with that speakup doesn't know by default.
Hope that helps though,
Michael Whapples
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cleverson" <clever92000@yahoo.com.br>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 3:39 PM
Subject: almost solved, was Re: Problem with accented characters
> Hello,
>
> Thank you Zack and Greg. I replaced the codes for bynary letters with
> codes
> for alphabetic letters in chartab where apropriate, and now Speakup is
> reading the accented letters.
>
> However, when an accented letter apears in the middle of a word, it
> pronounces that word as they were two words, one from the begining til the
> accented letter and another from there to the end of the word. Is it
> possible to configure what characters are word delimiters and what are
> not?
>
> Thanks,
> Cleverson
>
> "Be realistic; ask for the impossible."
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________________
> Yahoo! Mail - Sempre a melhor opção para você!
> Experimente já e veja as novidades.
> http://br.yahoo.com/mailbeta/tudonovo/
>
>
>
>
>
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* Re: Problem with accented characters
Problem with accented characters Cleverson
` Zachary Kline
` Gregory Nowak
@ ` Hynek Hanke
2 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Hynek Hanke @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Cleverson píše v So 17. 03. 2007 v 23:13 -0300:
> I use eSpeak through Speech-Dispatcher. My native language is brazilian
> Portuguese. In addition to the conventional alphabet and numbers and
> punctuations, We use some characters that are out of ASCII range but not out
> of Ansi range, that is, they are between 128 and 255. For example, the
> characters "à, ê, í, õ, ú" correspond respectively to the ansi numbers 224,
> 234, 237, 245 and 250.
Hello Cleverson,
there is nothing you have to change in the characters tables etc.
If you use a recent version of speechd-up (0.4) and do NOT run it with
the -t option but specify the appropriate character encoding via the -c
parameter, internationalization should work out of the box. Speechd-Up
will to the necessary chartab and characters substitution automatically.
Have a nice day,
Hynek Hanke
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