Fedora Documentation

Fedora Documentation

[Daniel C]

Well Janina, reason of my not following instructions being is, the document
at HYPERLINK
"http://speakupmodified.org/HOWTO_INSTALL.html"http://speakupmodified.org/HO
WTO_INSTALL.html

Says, Version 6.0--Preliminary
11 July 2007 For use with the HYPERLINK "http://speakupmodified.org/"Speakup
Modified Fedora Distribution, Version F-7 "Moonshine." Not 9. that's why.

I don't follow old documentation that hasn't been updated since July 11
2007.

Perhaps I should, but instructions given in that document don't work
whatsoever with the exception of the part of, what to do when at the
installation prompt for the first time if using a CD, DVD, or rescue image.

Otherwise, all of the document seems out dated.

If you could perhaps point me in the right direction, and explain how to get
speakup to work at boot time I'd appreciate it.

Despite my bitching and complaining, Speakup modified fedora is a good
program.

I guess I'm just not use to all these new changes and no new documentation
to go with them.

That'd be like a company releasing a product and not providing updated help
files for it.

 


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Re: Fedora Documentation

[Janina Sajka]

Hmmm, which part of the following excerpt do you find outdated? And I
quote:

"
   Blind people installing Red Hat using Speakup are also invited to
call
   Bill Acker by voice telephone, during the evening and on weekends
only
   please, for direct, personal assistance at +1.303.777.8123 in the
USA's
   Mountain Time Zone, -02:00 U.S. Eastern Time (New York). But, please
do
   not call during business hours."

Hmmm, maybe the "Red Hat" part threw you off? It's true. We really
should have changed that to "Fedora" a long time ago. The telephone
support offer has been there since this distro was called Red Hat. I
guess I never realized how confusing that was.

Janina

Daniel C writes:
> Well Janina, reason of my not following instructions being is, the document
> at HYPERLINK
> "http://speakupmodified.org/HOWTO_INSTALL.html"http://speakupmodified.org/HO
> WTO_INSTALL.html
> 
> Says, Version 6.0--Preliminary
> 11 July 2007 For use with the HYPERLINK "http://speakupmodified.org/"Speakup
> Modified Fedora Distribution, Version F-7 "Moonshine." Not 9. that's why.
> 
> I don't follow old documentation that hasn't been updated since July 11
> 2007.
> 
> Perhaps I should, but instructions given in that document don't work
> whatsoever with the exception of the part of, what to do when at the
> installation prompt for the first time if using a CD, DVD, or rescue image.
> 
> Otherwise, all of the document seems out dated.
> 
> If you could perhaps point me in the right direction, and explain how to get
> speakup to work at boot time I'd appreciate it.
> 
> Despite my bitching and complaining, Speakup modified fedora is a good
> program.
> 
> I guess I'm just not use to all these new changes and no new documentation
> to go with them.
> 
> That'd be like a company releasing a product and not providing updated help
> files for it.
> 
>  
> 
> 
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> _______________________________________________
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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RE: Fedora Documentation

[Daniel C]

The entire document I find outdated. And while I found that number for phone
support, I cannot call that number as I have no long distance and no money
to get a phone card, so that's why I skipped that part.
In order for me to minimize my already 10 hour or so downtime of my server,
I've reinstalled FC7 for now until I can get some help that isn't phone
related. Not to say that if I did have long distance that I wouldn't call,
but because I have none, that's not an option.
I already have customers e-mailing like mad about the downtime. I thought
that I could just pop in the DVD and tell it to upgrade, and just maybe, be
left with maybe configuring a few services here and there, but it turns out
that what I've run into is an unaccessible Fedora without Speakup at the
boot stage.
Does anyone else have the same trouble as me about not having Speakup come
up after a reboot?
To make things easier, here is what I did, to be sure I am, "following
instructions":

Install Process

1. I inserted the DVD and booted the system.
2. After the DVD stopped, I hit down arrow once, followed by tab once then
space once.
3. After doing tab once then pressing space once, I wrote speakup.synth=bns
and hit enter.
My Braille 'N Speak 2000 was found and speakup began talking.
4. It asked about a language and keyboard, etc. I went through all of the
install options I needed and chose a root password.
At the last stage, after package installation and the congradulations
screen, I pressed alt+f2 and back-spaced and realized I was In a console
because I back-spaced once and the machine made a beeping sound once.
Next, I typed cd /mnt/sysimage and hit enter.
Next, I typed chroot put a space and put a period then hit enter.
Finally, I typed slash sbin slash chkconfig firstboot off then pressed
enter.
Lastly, I hit CTRL+d, then alt+delete and the machine rebooted.
Somehow I was able to login to a console without doing anything, but then
during the boot process speakup never loaded.
Where did I go wrong in the above information?
I'll attempt a reupgrade, only if I have information that will actually work
properly in FC9. Otherwise, I've spent from 6:00 A.M. til 6:00 P.M.
installing an OS that just won't work for me.
Thanks.

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Re: Fedora Documentation

[Janina Sajka]

Too bad. Bill has even been known to call people back on his dime, if
they can't afford the call. But, I suspect you'd have to ask nice.

So, to spite a 30 second fix you went and did a 30 minute install? Your
choice. Enjoy.

Janina


Janina

Daniel C writes:
> The entire document I find outdated. And while I found that number for phone
> support, I cannot call that number as I have no long distance and no money
> to get a phone card, so that's why I skipped that part.
> In order for me to minimize my already 10 hour or so downtime of my server,
> I've reinstalled FC7 for now until I can get some help that isn't phone
> related. Not to say that if I did have long distance that I wouldn't call,
> but because I have none, that's not an option.
> I already have customers e-mailing like mad about the downtime. I thought
> that I could just pop in the DVD and tell it to upgrade, and just maybe, be
> left with maybe configuring a few services here and there, but it turns out
> that what I've run into is an unaccessible Fedora without Speakup at the
> boot stage.
> Does anyone else have the same trouble as me about not having Speakup come
> up after a reboot?
> To make things easier, here is what I did, to be sure I am, "following
> instructions":
> 
> Install Process
> 
> 1. I inserted the DVD and booted the system.
> 2. After the DVD stopped, I hit down arrow once, followed by tab once then
> space once.
> 3. After doing tab once then pressing space once, I wrote speakup.synth=bns
> and hit enter.
> My Braille 'N Speak 2000 was found and speakup began talking.
> 4. It asked about a language and keyboard, etc. I went through all of the
> install options I needed and chose a root password.
> At the last stage, after package installation and the congradulations
> screen, I pressed alt+f2 and back-spaced and realized I was In a console
> because I back-spaced once and the machine made a beeping sound once.
> Next, I typed cd /mnt/sysimage and hit enter.
> Next, I typed chroot put a space and put a period then hit enter.
> Finally, I typed slash sbin slash chkconfig firstboot off then pressed
> enter.
> Lastly, I hit CTRL+d, then alt+delete and the machine rebooted.
> Somehow I was able to login to a console without doing anything, but then
> during the boot process speakup never loaded.
> Where did I go wrong in the above information?
> I'll attempt a reupgrade, only if I have information that will actually work
> properly in FC9. Otherwise, I've spent from 6:00 A.M. til 6:00 P.M.
> installing an OS that just won't work for me.
> Thanks.
> 
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