* Fedora Documentation @ Daniel C ` Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: Daniel C @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.' Well Janina, reason of my not following instructions being is, the document at HYPERLINK "http://speakupmodified.org/HOWTO_INSTALL.html"http://speakupmodified.org/HO WTO_INSTALL.html Says, Version 6.0--Preliminary 11 July 2007 For use with the HYPERLINK "http://speakupmodified.org/"Speakup Modified Fedora Distribution, Version F-7 "Moonshine." Not 9. that's why. I don't follow old documentation that hasn't been updated since July 11 2007. Perhaps I should, but instructions given in that document don't work whatsoever with the exception of the part of, what to do when at the installation prompt for the first time if using a CD, DVD, or rescue image. Otherwise, all of the document seems out dated. If you could perhaps point me in the right direction, and explain how to get speakup to work at boot time I'd appreciate it. Despite my bitching and complaining, Speakup modified fedora is a good program. I guess I'm just not use to all these new changes and no new documentation to go with them. That'd be like a company releasing a product and not providing updated help files for it. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.16/1446 - Release Date: 5/16/2008 7:42 AM ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: Fedora Documentation Fedora Documentation Daniel C @ ` Janina Sajka ` Daniel C 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hmmm, which part of the following excerpt do you find outdated? And I quote: " Blind people installing Red Hat using Speakup are also invited to call Bill Acker by voice telephone, during the evening and on weekends only please, for direct, personal assistance at +1.303.777.8123 in the USA's Mountain Time Zone, -02:00 U.S. Eastern Time (New York). But, please do not call during business hours." Hmmm, maybe the "Red Hat" part threw you off? It's true. We really should have changed that to "Fedora" a long time ago. The telephone support offer has been there since this distro was called Red Hat. I guess I never realized how confusing that was. Janina Daniel C writes: > Well Janina, reason of my not following instructions being is, the document > at HYPERLINK > "http://speakupmodified.org/HOWTO_INSTALL.html"http://speakupmodified.org/HO > WTO_INSTALL.html > > Says, Version 6.0--Preliminary > 11 July 2007 For use with the HYPERLINK "http://speakupmodified.org/"Speakup > Modified Fedora Distribution, Version F-7 "Moonshine." Not 9. that's why. > > I don't follow old documentation that hasn't been updated since July 11 > 2007. > > Perhaps I should, but instructions given in that document don't work > whatsoever with the exception of the part of, what to do when at the > installation prompt for the first time if using a CD, DVD, or rescue image. > > Otherwise, all of the document seems out dated. > > If you could perhaps point me in the right direction, and explain how to get > speakup to work at boot time I'd appreciate it. > > Despite my bitching and complaining, Speakup modified fedora is a good > program. > > I guess I'm just not use to all these new changes and no new documentation > to go with them. > > That'd be like a company releasing a product and not providing updated help > files for it. > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.16/1446 - Release Date: 5/16/2008 > 7:42 AM > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.202.595.7777; sip:janina@a11y.org Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://CapitalAccessibility.Com Marketing the Owasys 22C talking screenless cell phone in the U.S. and Canada Learn more at http://ScreenlessPhone.Com Chair, Open Accessibility janina@a11y.org Linux Foundation http://a11y.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* RE: Fedora Documentation ` Janina Sajka @ ` Daniel C ` Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: Daniel C @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.' The entire document I find outdated. And while I found that number for phone support, I cannot call that number as I have no long distance and no money to get a phone card, so that's why I skipped that part. In order for me to minimize my already 10 hour or so downtime of my server, I've reinstalled FC7 for now until I can get some help that isn't phone related. Not to say that if I did have long distance that I wouldn't call, but because I have none, that's not an option. I already have customers e-mailing like mad about the downtime. I thought that I could just pop in the DVD and tell it to upgrade, and just maybe, be left with maybe configuring a few services here and there, but it turns out that what I've run into is an unaccessible Fedora without Speakup at the boot stage. Does anyone else have the same trouble as me about not having Speakup come up after a reboot? To make things easier, here is what I did, to be sure I am, "following instructions": Install Process 1. I inserted the DVD and booted the system. 2. After the DVD stopped, I hit down arrow once, followed by tab once then space once. 3. After doing tab once then pressing space once, I wrote speakup.synth=bns and hit enter. My Braille 'N Speak 2000 was found and speakup began talking. 4. It asked about a language and keyboard, etc. I went through all of the install options I needed and chose a root password. At the last stage, after package installation and the congradulations screen, I pressed alt+f2 and back-spaced and realized I was In a console because I back-spaced once and the machine made a beeping sound once. Next, I typed cd /mnt/sysimage and hit enter. Next, I typed chroot put a space and put a period then hit enter. Finally, I typed slash sbin slash chkconfig firstboot off then pressed enter. Lastly, I hit CTRL+d, then alt+delete and the machine rebooted. Somehow I was able to login to a console without doing anything, but then during the boot process speakup never loaded. Where did I go wrong in the above information? I'll attempt a reupgrade, only if I have information that will actually work properly in FC9. Otherwise, I've spent from 6:00 A.M. til 6:00 P.M. installing an OS that just won't work for me. Thanks. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.16/1446 - Release Date: 5/16/2008 7:42 AM ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: Fedora Documentation ` Daniel C @ ` Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Too bad. Bill has even been known to call people back on his dime, if they can't afford the call. But, I suspect you'd have to ask nice. So, to spite a 30 second fix you went and did a 30 minute install? Your choice. Enjoy. Janina Janina Daniel C writes: > The entire document I find outdated. And while I found that number for phone > support, I cannot call that number as I have no long distance and no money > to get a phone card, so that's why I skipped that part. > In order for me to minimize my already 10 hour or so downtime of my server, > I've reinstalled FC7 for now until I can get some help that isn't phone > related. Not to say that if I did have long distance that I wouldn't call, > but because I have none, that's not an option. > I already have customers e-mailing like mad about the downtime. I thought > that I could just pop in the DVD and tell it to upgrade, and just maybe, be > left with maybe configuring a few services here and there, but it turns out > that what I've run into is an unaccessible Fedora without Speakup at the > boot stage. > Does anyone else have the same trouble as me about not having Speakup come > up after a reboot? > To make things easier, here is what I did, to be sure I am, "following > instructions": > > Install Process > > 1. I inserted the DVD and booted the system. > 2. After the DVD stopped, I hit down arrow once, followed by tab once then > space once. > 3. After doing tab once then pressing space once, I wrote speakup.synth=bns > and hit enter. > My Braille 'N Speak 2000 was found and speakup began talking. > 4. It asked about a language and keyboard, etc. I went through all of the > install options I needed and chose a root password. > At the last stage, after package installation and the congradulations > screen, I pressed alt+f2 and back-spaced and realized I was In a console > because I back-spaced once and the machine made a beeping sound once. > Next, I typed cd /mnt/sysimage and hit enter. > Next, I typed chroot put a space and put a period then hit enter. > Finally, I typed slash sbin slash chkconfig firstboot off then pressed > enter. > Lastly, I hit CTRL+d, then alt+delete and the machine rebooted. > Somehow I was able to login to a console without doing anything, but then > during the boot process speakup never loaded. > Where did I go wrong in the above information? > I'll attempt a reupgrade, only if I have information that will actually work > properly in FC9. Otherwise, I've spent from 6:00 A.M. til 6:00 P.M. > installing an OS that just won't work for me. > Thanks. > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.16/1446 - Release Date: 5/16/2008 > 7:42 AM > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.202.595.7777; sip:janina@a11y.org Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://CapitalAccessibility.Com Marketing the Owasys 22C talking screenless cell phone in the U.S. and Canada Learn more at http://ScreenlessPhone.Com Chair, Open Accessibility janina@a11y.org Linux Foundation http://a11y.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
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