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* speakup drivers with 2.6.24
@  Chuck Hallenbeck
   ` Kirk Reiser
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Chuck Hallenbeck @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

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I would appreciate some clarification on whether to build in a driver,
or build it as a module. My problem is, I would like to sometimes use
the ltlk driver, and sometimes the sftsyn driver. If I build them both
into the 2.6.24 kernel, how do I select one, and how do I change to the
other?

Same questions if I build them both as modules: how to select one, how
to change between them. There is no /proc/speakup/softsynth device to
assist here.

I want to build-in the ltlk driver, so as to hear bootup messages if I
want to, so there is even a third pair of questions: If ltlk is built
in, and sftsyn is a module, how then do I switch to sftsyn, and how do
I switch back to ltlk? 

At the present time I have the ltlk built in and sftsyn as a module,
but could do otherwise if it would be a better strategy.

Many thanks -- and sorry to be so dense here.

Chuck


- -- 
The Moon is Waning Gibbous (53% of Full)

   My web site is: http://hallenbeck.ftml.net, my phone is: 1-518-334-9022,
         and sometimes I  Jabber. My JID is: chuckh@jabber.org
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and small minds talk about people.
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* Re: speakup drivers with 2.6.24
   speakup drivers with 2.6.24 Chuck Hallenbeck
@  ` Kirk Reiser
     ` Chuck Hallenbeck
     ` Nick Stockton
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Kirk Reiser @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

Auh yes, you have put your finger on one of the problems with the
current git repository.  Once a built-in synth is loaded there is no
current way to switch to another built-in synth.  Upon loading a
module there's no way to switch to another built-in synth.  If
changing synths is necessary I would recommend builting them as
modules which can be loaded and unloaded at will.

We are working on bringing back the ability to change synths but it is
not complete yet.  I will turn my attention to that as soon as I have
the cut and paste issue fixed and ready for testing.  It's current
status is that I can lock a machine with a single mark keystroke
everytime ten out of ten tries! 'grin' Anyone want to test it?



Kirk Reiser				The Computer Braille Facility
e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca		University of Western Ontario
phone: (519) 661-3061


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* Re: speakup drivers with 2.6.24
   ` Kirk Reiser
@    ` Chuck Hallenbeck
     ` Nick Stockton
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Chuck Hallenbeck @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

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Wow! Ten out of ten ain't bad! <smile> 

So I guess basically if I want to be able to change synths I have to be
willing to forego those bootup messages then. They are usually of
little interest, but as soon as I decide to  do without them, guess
what will happen? 

Anyway, thanks for the clarification. I'll think on that one a bit.

Chuck


On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 06:07:02PM -0400, Kirk Reiser wrote:
> Auh yes, you have put your finger on one of the problems with the
> current git repository.  Once a built-in synth is loaded there is no
> current way to switch to another built-in synth.  Upon loading a
> module there's no way to switch to another built-in synth.  If
> changing synths is necessary I would recommend builting them as
> modules which can be loaded and unloaded at will.
> 
> We are working on bringing back the ability to change synths but it is
> not complete yet.  I will turn my attention to that as soon as I have
> the cut and paste issue fixed and ready for testing.  It's current
> status is that I can lock a machine with a single mark keystroke
> everytime ten out of ten tries! 'grin' Anyone want to test it?
> 
> 
> 
> Kirk Reiser				The Computer Braille Facility
> e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca		University of Western Ontario
> phone: (519) 661-3061
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

- -- 
The Moon is Waning Crescent (49% of Full)

   My web site is: http://hallenbeck.ftml.net, my phone is: 1-518-334-9022,
         and sometimes I  Jabber. My JID is: chuckh@jabber.org
                                --------
Great minds talk about ideas, average minds talk about things,
and small minds talk about people.
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* Re: speakup drivers with 2.6.24
   ` Kirk Reiser
     ` Chuck Hallenbeck
@    ` Nick Stockton
       ` William Hubbs
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Nick Stockton @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

with out /proc/speakup will there be another way to make shell scripts to 
change the pitch, rate, key_echo, delay_time etc or will that ability be 
gone?
Nick Stockton
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kirk Reiser" <kirk@braille.uwo.ca>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: speakup drivers with 2.6.24


> Auh yes, you have put your finger on one of the problems with the
> current git repository.  Once a built-in synth is loaded there is no
> current way to switch to another built-in synth.  Upon loading a
> module there's no way to switch to another built-in synth.  If
> changing synths is necessary I would recommend builting them as
> modules which can be loaded and unloaded at will.
>
> We are working on bringing back the ability to change synths but it is
> not complete yet.  I will turn my attention to that as soon as I have
> the cut and paste issue fixed and ready for testing.  It's current
> status is that I can lock a machine with a single mark keystroke
> everytime ten out of ten tries! 'grin' Anyone want to test it?
>
>
>
> Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility
> e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario
> phone: (519) 661-3061
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup 



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* Re: speakup drivers with 2.6.24
     ` Nick Stockton
@      ` William Hubbs
         ` Zachary Kline
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: William Hubbs @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

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This is being worked on as well.  The goal is to move everything from
/proc/speakup to /sys/module/speakup/parameters.

On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 10:46:21PM -0400, Nick Stockton wrote:
> with out /proc/speakup will there be another way to make shell scripts to 
> change the pitch, rate, key_echo, delay_time etc or will that ability be 
> gone?
> Nick Stockton
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kirk Reiser" <kirk@braille.uwo.ca>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 6:07 PM
> Subject: Re: speakup drivers with 2.6.24
> 
> 
> > Auh yes, you have put your finger on one of the problems with the
> > current git repository.  Once a built-in synth is loaded there is no
> > current way to switch to another built-in synth.  Upon loading a
> > module there's no way to switch to another built-in synth.  If
> > changing synths is necessary I would recommend builting them as
> > modules which can be loaded and unloaded at will.
> >
> > We are working on bringing back the ability to change synths but it is
> > not complete yet.  I will turn my attention to that as soon as I have
> > the cut and paste issue fixed and ready for testing.  It's current
> > status is that I can lock a machine with a single mark keystroke
> > everytime ten out of ten tries! 'grin' Anyone want to test it?
> >
> >
> >
> > Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility
> > e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario
> > phone: (519) 661-3061
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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William Hubbs
gentoo accessibility team lead
williamh@gentoo.org
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* Re: speakup drivers with 2.6.24
       ` William Hubbs
@        ` Zachary Kline
           ` Daniel Dalton
           ` Samuel Thibault
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Zachary Kline @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

Hi,
    I must admit I'm not sure about the reasons behind all this.  Call me a 
traditionalist, but I've always associated /proc as being the main place 
where such configurable kernel parameters are kept.  Is there a reason 
behind moving stuff out of there?
Thanks,
Zack.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William Hubbs" <williamh@gentoo.org>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: speakup drivers with 2.6.24


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> This is being worked on as well.  The goal is to move everything from
> /proc/speakup to /sys/module/speakup/parameters.
>
> On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 10:46:21PM -0400, Nick Stockton wrote:
>> with out /proc/speakup will there be another way to make shell scripts to
>> change the pitch, rate, key_echo, delay_time etc or will that ability be
>> gone?
>> Nick Stockton
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Kirk Reiser" <kirk@braille.uwo.ca>
>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
>> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 6:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: speakup drivers with 2.6.24
>>
>>
>> > Auh yes, you have put your finger on one of the problems with the
>> > current git repository.  Once a built-in synth is loaded there is no
>> > current way to switch to another built-in synth.  Upon loading a
>> > module there's no way to switch to another built-in synth.  If
>> > changing synths is necessary I would recommend builting them as
>> > modules which can be loaded and unloaded at will.
>> >
>> > We are working on bringing back the ability to change synths but it is
>> > not complete yet.  I will turn my attention to that as soon as I have
>> > the cut and paste issue fixed and ready for testing.  It's current
>> > status is that I can lock a machine with a single mark keystroke
>> > everytime ten out of ten tries! 'grin' Anyone want to test it?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility
>> > e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario
>> > phone: (519) 661-3061
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Speakup mailing list
>> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> - -- 
> William Hubbs
> gentoo accessibility team lead
> williamh@gentoo.org
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> 



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* Re: speakup drivers with 2.6.24
         ` Zachary Kline
@          ` Daniel Dalton
           ` Samuel Thibault
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Dalton @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

On Sat, 29 Mar 2008, Zachary Kline wrote:

> Hi,
>    I must admit I'm not sure about the reasons behind all this.  Call me a
> traditionalist, but I've always associated /proc as being the main place
> where such configurable kernel parameters are kept.  Is there a reason
> behind moving stuff out of there?

I only use speakup on my laptop since its annoying to take the braille 
display everywhere, but
the thing I quite liked was to be able to set up bash scripts to adjust 
speakup settings.
I could call these on boot or have them in my path so they were quickly 
accessible...

-- 
Daniel Dalton

http://members.iinet.net.au/~ddalton/
d.dalton@iinet.net.au


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* Re: speakup drivers with 2.6.24
         ` Zachary Kline
           ` Daniel Dalton
@          ` Samuel Thibault
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Samuel Thibault @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

Zachary Kline, le Sat 29 Mar 2008 21:25:46 -0700, a écrit :
>     I must admit I'm not sure about the reasons behind all this.  Call me a 
> traditionalist, but I've always associated /proc as being the main place 
> where such configurable kernel parameters are kept.  Is there a reason 
> behind moving stuff out of there?

Linux upstream policy.

Samuel


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