ot: dectalk internal drivers?

ot: dectalk internal drivers?

[Karen Lewellen]

Seeking these.
As it can run with speakup, anyone have them?
Thanks,
Karen

Re: ot: dectalk internal drivers?

[Tyler Spivey]

You just need the dos drivers? My site has them for both the PC1 and PC2:
https://allinaccess.com/happ/


On 6/24/2023 12:02 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> Seeking these.
> As it can run with speakup, anyone have them?
> Thanks,
> Karen
> 
> 
> 

Re: ot: dectalk internal drivers?

[Karen Lewellen]

How will I know which I have?
and yes, just the dos drivers, using arctic busines vision.
Sorry no spell check.



On Sat, 24 Jun 2023, Tyler Spivey wrote:

> You just need the dos drivers? My site has them for both the PC1 and PC2:
> https://allinaccess.com/happ/
>
>
> On 6/24/2023 12:02 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>>  Seeking these.
>>  As it can run with speakup, anyone have them?
>>  Thanks,
>>  Karen
>>
>>
>> 
>
>

Re: ot: dectalk internal drivers?

[Tyler Spivey]

I don't know. But it's safe enough to just load PC1 drivers, and if they 
don't work, try PC2.

On 6/24/2023 1:02 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> How will I know which I have?
> and yes, just the dos drivers, using arctic busines vision.
> Sorry no spell check.
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, 24 Jun 2023, Tyler Spivey wrote:
> 
>> You just need the dos drivers? My site has them for both the PC1 and PC2:
>> https://allinaccess.com/happ/
>>
>>
>> On 6/24/2023 12:02 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>>>  Seeking these.
>>>  As it can run with speakup, anyone have them?
>>>  Thanks,
>>>  Karen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>

Re: ot: dectalk internal drivers?

[Karen Lewellen]

Wait...why is this a windows file?
I do not have words for that.



On Sat, 24 Jun 2023, Tyler Spivey wrote:

> You just need the dos drivers? My site has them for both the PC1 and PC2:
> https://allinaccess.com/happ/
>
>
> On 6/24/2023 12:02 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>>  Seeking these.
>>  As it can run with speakup, anyone have them?
>>  Thanks,
>>  Karen
>>
>>
>> 
>
>

Re: ot: dectalk internal drivers?

[Karen Lewellen]

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except that when one gets those the .exec file states it is a windows self 
extract..why?



On Sat, 24 Jun 2023, Tyler Spivey wrote:

> I don't know. But it's safe enough to just load PC1 drivers, and if they 
> don't work, try PC2.
>
> On 6/24/2023 1:02 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>>  How will I know which I have?
>>  and yes, just the dos drivers, using arctic busines vision.
>>  Sorry no spell check.
>>
>>
>>
>>  On Sat, 24 Jun 2023, Tyler Spivey wrote:
>> 
>> >  You just need the dos drivers? My site has them for both the PC1 and 
>> >  PC2:
>> >  https://allinaccess.com/happ/
>> > 
>> > 
>> >  On 6/24/2023 12:02 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>> > >   Seeking these.
>> > >   As it can run with speakup, anyone have them?
>> > >   Thanks,
>> > >   Karen
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > 
>> > 
>
>

Re: ot: dectalk internal drivers?

[Jookia]

They are DOS exe files.

On Sat, Jun 24, 2023 at 11:10:24PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> Wait...why is this a windows file?
> I do not have words for that.
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, 24 Jun 2023, Tyler Spivey wrote:
> 
> > You just need the dos drivers? My site has them for both the PC1 and PC2:
> > https://allinaccess.com/happ/
> > 
> > 
> > On 6/24/2023 12:02 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> > >  Seeking these.
> > >  As it can run with speakup, anyone have them?
> > >  Thanks,
> > >  Karen
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> 

Re: ot: dectalk internal drivers?

[Karen Lewellen]

when I downloaded the file and tried to execute it I got the message, this 
is  a windowes executable file.

Will try once more.
q



On Sun, 25 Jun 2023, Jookia wrote:

> They are DOS exe files.
>
> On Sat, Jun 24, 2023 at 11:10:24PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>> Wait...why is this a windows file?
>> I do not have words for that.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 24 Jun 2023, Tyler Spivey wrote:
>>
>>> You just need the dos drivers? My site has them for both the PC1 and PC2:
>>> https://allinaccess.com/happ/
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/24/2023 12:02 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>>>>  Seeking these.
>>>>  As it can run with speakup, anyone have them?
>>>>  Thanks,
>>>>  Karen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: ot: dectalk internal drivers?

[Jookia]

I think you're supposed to extract it in DOS.

On Sat, Jun 24, 2023 at 11:22:48PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> when I downloaded the file and tried to execute it I got the message, this
> is  a windowes executable file.
> 
> Will try once more.
> q
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, 25 Jun 2023, Jookia wrote:
> 
> > They are DOS exe files.
> > 
> > On Sat, Jun 24, 2023 at 11:10:24PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> > > Wait...why is this a windows file?
> > > I do not have words for that.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Sat, 24 Jun 2023, Tyler Spivey wrote:
> > > 
> > > > You just need the dos drivers? My site has them for both the PC1 and PC2:
> > > > https://allinaccess.com/happ/
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On 6/24/2023 12:02 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> > > > >  Seeking these.
> > > > >  As it can run with speakup, anyone have them?
> > > > >  Thanks,
> > > > >  Karen
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 

Re: ot: dectalk internal drivers?

[Karen Lewellen]

Profound apologies...its been a deeply stressful time.
When I ran pkunzip it opened just fine.
I do have a question though.
I note no install, does that mean I need only say  run dt.bat for the 
drivers to run?
i. e. place that in my autoexec.bat?
I want to test things before doing that  if I can.
Goal is running it with business vision.
Thanks,



On Sun, 25 Jun 2023, Jookia wrote:

> I think you're supposed to extract it in DOS.
>
> On Sat, Jun 24, 2023 at 11:22:48PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>> when I downloaded the file and tried to execute it I got the message, this
>> is  a windowes executable file.
>>
>> Will try once more.
>> q
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 25 Jun 2023, Jookia wrote:
>>
>>> They are DOS exe files.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 24, 2023 at 11:10:24PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>>>> Wait...why is this a windows file?
>>>> I do not have words for that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 24 Jun 2023, Tyler Spivey wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You just need the dos drivers? My site has them for both the PC1 and PC2:
>>>>> https://allinaccess.com/happ/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/24/2023 12:02 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>>>>>>  Seeking these.
>>>>>>  As it can run with speakup, anyone have them?
>>>>>>  Thanks,
>>>>>>  Karen
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Re: ot: dectalk internal drivers?

[Jookia]

No problem :)

I'm not too sure, I haven't tried or tested this or have the hardware.

I would guess you need to run dt.bat to run the drivers unless it's an
installer that sets up things in CONFIG.SYS.

Which file did you download?

On Sun, Jun 25, 2023 at 12:02:33AM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> Profound apologies...its been a deeply stressful time.
> When I ran pkunzip it opened just fine.
> I do have a question though.
> I note no install, does that mean I need only say  run dt.bat for the
> drivers to run?
> i. e. place that in my autoexec.bat?
> I want to test things before doing that  if I can.
> Goal is running it with business vision.
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, 25 Jun 2023, Jookia wrote:
> 
> > I think you're supposed to extract it in DOS.
> > 
> > On Sat, Jun 24, 2023 at 11:22:48PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> > > when I downloaded the file and tried to execute it I got the message, this
> > > is  a windowes executable file.
> > > 
> > > Will try once more.
> > > q
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Sun, 25 Jun 2023, Jookia wrote:
> > > 
> > > > They are DOS exe files.
> > > > 
> > > > On Sat, Jun 24, 2023 at 11:10:24PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> > > > > Wait...why is this a windows file?
> > > > > I do not have words for that.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Sat, 24 Jun 2023, Tyler Spivey wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > You just need the dos drivers? My site has them for both the PC1 and PC2:
> > > > > > https://allinaccess.com/happ/
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On 6/24/2023 12:02 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> > > > > > >  Seeking these.
> > > > > > >  As it can run with speakup, anyone have them?
> > > > > > >  Thanks,
> > > > > > >  Karen
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 

Re: ot: dectalk internal drivers?

[Jason White]

On 25/6/23 00:02, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> I note no install, does that mean I need only say  run dt.bat for the 
> drivers to run?
> i. e. place that in my autoexec.bat?
>
If I remember correctly, and this was a long time ago, you simply have 
to run the batch file, then whatever screen reader you plan to use. The 
batch file loads a large amount of software onto the card, and runs it.

If you're planning to use this under Linux as well, I would be 
astonished if it were supported by modern kernels. In fact, I don't know 
whether Linux still runs on x86 machines with ISA slots.

Re: ot: dectalk internal drivers?

[Gregory Nowak]

On Sun, Jun 25, 2023 at 10:02:19AM -0400, Jason White wrote:
> In fact, I don't know whether Linux
> still runs on x86 machines with ISA slots.

# uname -r; dmesg |grep -i "doubletalk"
5.10.0-23-686-pae
[   67.301489] Probing for DoubleTalk.
[   67.305490] DoubleTalk PC: 29e-29f, ROM ver 5.74, s/n xxxxx,
driver: 2.10

Greg


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Re: ot: dectalk internal drivers?

[Karen Lewellen]

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Hi folks,
Jason, I have yet to find a reading edge driver for Linux, that alone 
keeps me  from seriously considering the operating system.
It would run on DOS which is what I use.
For now though, as I cannot tell what the sound issue might be, this 
project will wait.
Indeed though  all the screen readers I have checked, still need to try 
ASAP run the .bat file as it were, all finding the  card too.
At the moment my main source of synthesis is doing better, what a 
difference changing a cable can make!
Thanks all,
Kare



On Sun, 25 Jun 2023, Jason White wrote:

>
> On 25/6/23 00:02, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>>  I note no install, does that mean I need only say  run dt.bat for the
>>  drivers to run?
>>  i. e. place that in my autoexec.bat?
>> 
> If I remember correctly, and this was a long time ago, you simply have to run 
> the batch file, then whatever screen reader you plan to use. The batch file 
> loads a large amount of software onto the card, and runs it.
>
> If you're planning to use this under Linux as well, I would be astonished if 
> it were supported by modern kernels. In fact, I don't know whether Linux 
> still runs on x86 machines with ISA slots.
>
>
>

Re: ot: dectalk internal drivers?

[Jason White]

Whenever you return to the problem, try testing the DECtalk card with 
one of the demonstration programs included with the software (after all 
of the necessary software is loaded onto the card by running the batch 
file).

On 26/6/23 21:18, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> Hi folks,
> Jason, I have yet to find a reading edge driver for Linux, that alone 
> keeps me  from seriously considering the operating system.
> It would run on DOS which is what I use.
> For now though, as I cannot tell what the sound issue might be, this 
> project will wait.
> Indeed though  all the screen readers I have checked, still need to 
> try ASAP run the .bat file as it were, all finding the  card too.
> At the moment my main source of synthesis is doing better, what a 
> difference changing a cable can make!
> Thanks all,
> Kare
>
>
>
> On Sun, 25 Jun 2023, Jason White wrote:
>
>>
>> On 25/6/23 00:02, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>>>  I note no install, does that mean I need only say  run dt.bat for the
>>>  drivers to run?
>>>  i. e. place that in my autoexec.bat?
>>>
>> If I remember correctly, and this was a long time ago, you simply 
>> have to run the batch file, then whatever screen reader you plan to 
>> use. The batch file loads a large amount of software onto the card, 
>> and runs it.
>>
>> If you're planning to use this under Linux as well, I would be 
>> astonished if it were supported by modern kernels. In fact, I don't 
>> know whether Linux still runs on x86 machines with ISA slots.
>>
>>
>>

Re: ot: dectalk internal drivers?

[Jason White]

On 25/6/23 21:06, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> [ 67.301489] Probing for DoubleTalk.
> [   67.305490] DoubleTalk PC: 29e-29f, ROM ver 5.74, s/n xxxxx,
> driver: 2.10
That's very impressive.

Re: ot: dectalk internal drivers?

[Karen Lewellen]

Greg,
This gave me a deeply appreciated reason to smile.
After all, for many the major major major drawback for Linux is the lack 
of  clear quality speech resources.
Kare



On Sun, 25 Jun 2023, Gregory Nowak wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 25, 2023 at 10:02:19AM -0400, Jason White wrote:
>> In fact, I don't know whether Linux
>> still runs on x86 machines with ISA slots.
>
> # uname -r; dmesg |grep -i "doubletalk"
> 5.10.0-23-686-pae
> [   67.301489] Probing for DoubleTalk.
> [   67.305490] DoubleTalk PC: 29e-29f, ROM ver 5.74, s/n xxxxx,
> driver: 2.10
>
> Greg
>
>
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Re: ot: dectalk internal drivers?

[Gregory Nowak]

You're welcome. I also have a doubletalk LT / litetalk, which works
beautifully on a standard serial port, and well enough over a USB to
serial converter. I checked a couple of weeks ago out of interest, and
the RC systems page for the lt says they don't have any in stock, and
that it's retired. I seem to recall hearing the trippletalk is not
being sold anymore either. Hardware synthesizers seem to have become a
chapter in speech synthesis history. Let's keep the ones still working
we own running for as long as we can. It seems that once they break
down, they likely can't be fixed and certainly not replaced.

Greg


On Sun, Jul 02, 2023 at 07:19:27PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> Greg,
> This gave me a deeply appreciated reason to smile.
> After all, for many the major major major drawback for Linux is the lack of
> clear quality speech resources.
> Kare



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Re: ot: dectalk internal drivers?

[Karen Lewellen]

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1. Linux does not support the reading edge.
2. you use your computer, and I will use mine.
To be forthright, assuming I ever find a voiceover voice that does not 
trigger a brain incident,  apple would be my choice over Linux.



On Sun, 2 Jul 2023, John G. Heim wrote:

> Holy cow, Linux does that better than any other op sys. Do you think you're 
> going to find support for your hardware in Windows or MacOS? Ah, no.
>
> I still use an external DoubleTalk. All I need is a computer with a serial 
> port. Yes, they are getting difficult to find but I just built a new system 
> with a 24-core I5 and an Asus motherboard. So I should be set until around 
> 2030.
>
> I know you're still running DOS. You probably could find some flavor of Linux 
> that still runs on a 486. Or you could install an old version of Debian or 
> something. I am not suggesting that. I am just saying that you could do in 
> Linux what you are doing with DOS only you could do it better.
>
>
> On 7/2/23 18:19, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>>  Greg,
>>  This gave me a deeply appreciated reason to smile.
>>  After all, for many the major major major drawback for Linux is the lack
>>  of  clear quality speech resources.
>>  Kare
>> 
>> 
>>
>>  On Sun, 25 Jun 2023, Gregory Nowak wrote:
>> 
>> >  On Sun, Jun 25, 2023 at 10:02:19AM -0400, Jason White wrote:
>> > >  In fact, I don't know whether Linux
>> > >  still runs on x86 machines with ISA slots.
>> > 
>> >  # uname -r; dmesg |grep -i "doubletalk"
>> >  5.10.0-23-686-pae
>> >  [   67.301489] Probing for DoubleTalk.
>> >  [   67.305490] DoubleTalk PC: 29e-29f, ROM ver 5.74, s/n xxxxx,
>> >  driver: 2.10
>> > 
>> >  Greg
>> > 
>> > 
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Re: ot: dectalk internal drivers?

[Karen Lewellen]

Its interesting,
I have owned a reading edge since 1993  / 94 or so.
In that time I have needed to replace it only twice, perhaps on 3 
occasions, once because a staffer with delta airlines ignored my 
instructions  for  its storage.
I do keep a spare,  would not mind having one of them  passed on for parts 
to help someone else.
speaking personally, hardware synthesizers have become  apart of history 
largely because of factors outside of their benefit quality, or possible 
continued usefulness... but that is my personal opinion of course.
Kare



On Sun, 2 Jul 2023, Gregory Nowak wrote:

> You're welcome. I also have a doubletalk LT / litetalk, which works
> beautifully on a standard serial port, and well enough over a USB to
> serial converter. I checked a couple of weeks ago out of interest, and
> the RC systems page for the lt says they don't have any in stock, and
> that it's retired. I seem to recall hearing the trippletalk is not
> being sold anymore either. Hardware synthesizers seem to have become a
> chapter in speech synthesis history. Let's keep the ones still working
> we own running for as long as we can. It seems that once they break
> down, they likely can't be fixed and certainly not replaced.
>
> Greg
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 02, 2023 at 07:19:27PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>> Greg,
>> This gave me a deeply appreciated reason to smile.
>> After all, for many the major major major drawback for Linux is the lack of
>> clear quality speech resources.
>> Kare
>
>
>
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