Minor hiccups with espeak 1.44.05 and espeakup 0.71-3 on Arch

Minor hiccups with espeak 1.44.05 and espeakup 0.71-3 on Arch

[Zachary Kline]

Hi All,
Just a heads up of sorts.  I've noticed occasional complaints from Espeak 
1.44.05 about getting bad intonation data when used with Espeakup 0.71. 
This is on my ArchLinux system, updated earlier today.
Occasional tonal strangeness seems to be the only issue so far, other than 
some decidedly odd  pronounciations in the latest versions of Espeak which 
previously were correct.
Best and thanks,
Zack.

Re: Minor hiccups with espeak 1.44.05 and espeakup 0.71-3 on Arch

[Luke Yelavich]

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:58:11AM EST, Zachary Kline wrote:
> Hi All,
> Just a heads up of sorts.  I've noticed occasional complaints from
> Espeak 1.44.05 about getting bad intonation data when used with
> Espeakup 0.71. This is on my ArchLinux system, updated earlier
> today.
> Occasional tonal strangeness seems to be the only issue so far,
> other than some decidedly odd  pronounciations in the latest
> versions of Espeak which previously were correct.

Can verify this with espeak 1.44.05 on Ubuntu amverick. Note for ubuntu users on Maverick, I kept the 1.44.04 version number, but updated to the 1.44.05 data.

CCing Jonathan.

Luke

Re: Minor hiccups with espeak 1.44.05 and espeakup 0.71-3 on Arch

[Christopher Brannon]

Zachary Kline <zkline@speedpost.net> writes:

> Hi All,
> Just a heads up of sorts.  I've noticed occasional complaints from
> Espeak 1.44.05 about getting bad intonation data when used with
> Espeakup 0.71. This is on my ArchLinux system, updated earlier today.

One option is to downgrade, assuming that you still have access to
the old package.  As you know, those usually aren't kept on our mirrors.
I put a copy of the previous version on my website.  You should be able
to downgrade with the following command:
pacman -U http://the-brannons.com/misc/espeak-1.44.02-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz

I hope this gets resolved soon!

-- Chris

Re: Minor hiccups with espeak 1.44.05 and espeakup 0.71-3 on Arch

[Willem van der Walt]

A change regarding intonation was made and is in espeak-1.44.08 and later.
Not sure if that is related to your problem, no harm in trying though.


On Fri, 17 Sep 2010, Christopher Brannon wrote:

> Zachary Kline <zkline@speedpost.net> writes:
> 
> > Hi All,
> > Just a heads up of sorts.  I've noticed occasional complaints from
> > Espeak 1.44.05 about getting bad intonation data when used with
> > Espeakup 0.71. This is on my ArchLinux system, updated earlier today.
> 
> One option is to downgrade, assuming that you still have access to
> the old package.  As you know, those usually aren't kept on our mirrors.
> I put a copy of the previous version on my website.  You should be able
> to downgrade with the following command:
> pacman -U http://the-brannons.com/misc/espeak-1.44.02-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz
> 
> I hope this gets resolved soon!
> 
> -- Chris
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Re: Minor hiccups with espeak 1.44.05 and espeakup 0.71-3 on Arch

[Zachary Kline]

Hi,
I ended up downgrading.  Thankfully Pacman kept a cached copy of the old 
package around.
I completely forgot about this feature for several hours until it suddenly 
clicked.  Makes me feel old.
Thanks for the suggestion,
Zack.


On Fri, 17 Sep 2010, Christopher Brannon wrote:

> Zachary Kline <zkline@speedpost.net> writes:
>
>> Hi All,
>> Just a heads up of sorts.  I've noticed occasional complaints from
>> Espeak 1.44.05 about getting bad intonation data when used with
>> Espeakup 0.71. This is on my ArchLinux system, updated earlier today.
>
> One option is to downgrade, assuming that you still have access to
> the old package.  As you know, those usually aren't kept on our mirrors.
> I put a copy of the previous version on my website.  You should be able
> to downgrade with the following command:
> pacman -U http://the-brannons.com/misc/espeak-1.44.02-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz
>
> I hope this gets resolved soon!
>
> -- Chris
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: Minor hiccups with espeak 1.44.05 and espeakup 0.71-3 on Arch

[Chuck Hallenbeck]

Curiously, I haven't noticed any hiccups at all with the new espeak.
Maybe it's because I have replaced the pitch change commands on capital
letters with the word "cap". I'm on an x86-64 dual core system here.
Chuck


On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:14:55AM -0700, Zachary Kline wrote:
> Hi,
> I ended up downgrading.  Thankfully Pacman kept a cached copy of the
> old package around.
> I completely forgot about this feature for several hours until it
> suddenly clicked.  Makes me feel old.
> Thanks for the suggestion,
> Zack.
> 
> 
> On Fri, 17 Sep 2010, Christopher Brannon wrote:
> 
> >Zachary Kline <zkline@speedpost.net> writes:
> >
> >>Hi All,
> >>Just a heads up of sorts.  I've noticed occasional complaints from
> >>Espeak 1.44.05 about getting bad intonation data when used with
> >>Espeakup 0.71. This is on my ArchLinux system, updated earlier today.
> >
> >One option is to downgrade, assuming that you still have access to
> >the old package.  As you know, those usually aren't kept on our mirrors.
> >I put a copy of the previous version on my website.  You should be able
> >to downgrade with the following command:
> >pacman -U http://the-brannons.com/misc/espeak-1.44.02-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz
> >
> >I hope this gets resolved soon!
> >
> >-- Chris
> >_______________________________________________
> >Speakup mailing list
> >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: Minor hiccups with espeak 1.44.05 and espeakup 0.71-3 on Arch

[Steve Holmes]

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 03:13:43AM -0500, Christopher Brannon wrote:
> One option is to downgrade, assuming that you still have access to
> the old package.  As you know, those usually aren't kept on our mirrors.
> I put a copy of the previous version on my website.  You should be able
> to downgrade with the following command:
> pacman -U http://the-brannons.com/misc/espeak-1.44.02-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz
> 
> I hope this gets resolved soon!

I hope so too.  I have a question relating to Arch in the meantime; if
I specify espeak in an ignor option for pacman, will the upgrade
process still tell me if new versions come available?  I ask this
because if I don't formally ignore this package, pacman -Syu would
merely try to upgrade all referenced packages including espeak.
That's one thing where I wish pacman had an option where you could
step through packages one by one; presently, it's an all or none
situation.

Most of the espeak problems I encountered seemed to happen with
emacspeak; hadn't noticed any particular problem with espeakup and
speakup yet.  But when I downgraded, emacspeak began to speak properly
again.  With espeak 0.44.05 or whatever, emacspeak started wining all
over the place with pitch changes.  To much for me.  Emacspeak and its
varying voices is enough and well intentioned but this got to be out
of hand so dropping back to previous version fixed that problem.

Re: Minor hiccups with espeak 1.44.05 and espeakup 0.71-3 on Arch

[Zachary Kline]

Hi,
Yes, Pacman will warn you if there is a new version available when you 
ignore espeak.  Telling when that version is new enough to be upgraded to 
safely is your problem.
Best,
Zack.


On Fri, 17 Sep 2010, Steve Holmes wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 03:13:43AM -0500, Christopher Brannon wrote:
>> One option is to downgrade, assuming that you still have access to
>> the old package.  As you know, those usually aren't kept on our mirrors.
>> I put a copy of the previous version on my website.  You should be able
>> to downgrade with the following command:
>> pacman -U http://the-brannons.com/misc/espeak-1.44.02-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz
>>
>> I hope this gets resolved soon!
>
> I hope so too.  I have a question relating to Arch in the meantime; if
> I specify espeak in an ignor option for pacman, will the upgrade
> process still tell me if new versions come available?  I ask this
> because if I don't formally ignore this package, pacman -Syu would
> merely try to upgrade all referenced packages including espeak.
> That's one thing where I wish pacman had an option where you could
> step through packages one by one; presently, it's an all or none
> situation.
>
> Most of the espeak problems I encountered seemed to happen with
> emacspeak; hadn't noticed any particular problem with espeakup and
> speakup yet.  But when I downgraded, emacspeak began to speak properly
> again.  With espeak 0.44.05 or whatever, emacspeak started wining all
> over the place with pitch changes.  To much for me.  Emacspeak and its
> varying voices is enough and well intentioned but this got to be out
> of hand so dropping back to previous version fixed that problem.
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>