zinf problems

zinf problems

[philwh]

Hi.
I am trying to get zinf to run under slackware 9.0,
kernel v2.4.20.
I first tried to use the alsa drivers for my
sound card, a pci128.
I got the alsa drivers, libs and utils installed.
I was able to use aplay to play a wave file.
I then installed zinf.
when I ran zinf, I got a message tht 
alsa-pcm-hw device was busy.
I then uninstalled alsa and zinf,
installed sound modules in the kernel,
and again, I was able to get a wave file to play.
when I ran zinf, i got absolutely no sound,
except a runbleing sound if i turned the speaker volume
up all the way.
I tried adjusting the volumes on the sound card with
a program called mixer.
no help.
I then downloaded the oss package from opensound and installed it
as a demo.
again, a wave file pays fine, and zinf
doesn't.
I am trying to get zinf-2.2.3 to operate correctly.

any help would be appricated.
thanks
phil

Re: zinf problems

[Steve Holmes]

I'm not using the most current version of zinf right now but recall
adding the alsa configuration option when compiling it.  do a
./configure --help to find the exact option.  I recall that fixing it
for me after installing ALSA.  But than again, I don't recall ever
getting any errors about a sound device being busy either.

On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 11:02:40PM -0400, philwh@gate.net wrote:
> Hi.
> I am trying to get zinf to run under slackware 9.0,
> kernel v2.4.20.
> I first tried to use the alsa drivers for my
> sound card, a pci128.
> I got the alsa drivers, libs and utils installed.
> I was able to use aplay to play a wave file.
> I then installed zinf.
> when I ran zinf, I got a message tht 
> alsa-pcm-hw device was busy.
> I then uninstalled alsa and zinf,
> installed sound modules in the kernel,
> and again, I was able to get a wave file to play.
> when I ran zinf, i got absolutely no sound,
> except a runbleing sound if i turned the speaker volume
> up all the way.
> I tried adjusting the volumes on the sound card with
> a program called mixer.
> no help.
> I then downloaded the oss package from opensound and installed it
> as a demo.
> again, a wave file pays fine, and zinf
> doesn't.
> I am trying to get zinf-2.2.3 to operate correctly.
> 
> any help would be appricated.
> thanks
> phil
> 
> 
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Re: zinf problems

[philwh]

When I did compile zinf, it detected that I had alsa installed correctly.
If I could get zinf to work with a plain sound card driver, such as that
in the kernel, then I would go back to figure out why it
doesn't work with alsa, but I can't get any
sound from zinf even with kernel sound drivers.

phil

On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 07:32:12AM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote:
> I'm not using the most current version of zinf right now but recall
> adding the alsa configuration option when compiling it.  do a
> ./configure --help to find the exact option.  I recall that fixing it
> for me after installing ALSA.  But than again, I don't recall ever
> getting any errors about a sound device being busy either.
> 
> On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 11:02:40PM -0400, philwh@gate.net wrote:
> > Hi.
> > I am trying to get zinf to run under slackware 9.0,
> > kernel v2.4.20.
> > I first tried to use the alsa drivers for my
> > sound card, a pci128.
> > I got the alsa drivers, libs and utils installed.
> > I was able to use aplay to play a wave file.
> > I then installed zinf.
> > when I ran zinf, I got a message tht 
> > alsa-pcm-hw device was busy.
> > I then uninstalled alsa and zinf,
> > installed sound modules in the kernel,
> > and again, I was able to get a wave file to play.
> > when I ran zinf, i got absolutely no sound,
> > except a runbleing sound if i turned the speaker volume
> > up all the way.
> > I tried adjusting the volumes on the sound card with
> > a program called mixer.
> > no help.
> > I then downloaded the oss package from opensound and installed it
> > as a demo.
> > again, a wave file pays fine, and zinf
> > doesn't.
> > I am trying to get zinf-2.2.3 to operate correctly.
> > 
> > any help would be appricated.
> > thanks
> > phil
> > 
> > 
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Re: zinf problems

[jude dashiell]

x11 works far better on linux than sound.  I gave up on zinf, and
information that shows it doesn't work with oss or alsa is adequate
vindication for this decision.

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Re: zinf problems

[Kirk Reiser]

I cannot speak to the alsa driver working or not working but decided
to get to the bottom of the no sound problem in zinf.  The bug reports
filed with debian and the zinf web site are less than helpful.

So the answer is easy and absolutely not obvious, in the preferences
file in the .zinf directory of your home directory there is a variable
softmix.  It is set to true by default.  Setting softmix to false will
clear up the zinf non-sound problem.

How I finally discovered the answer is a long story but it involved
compiling and debugging and other usual bug hunting bullshit.  All
that for a nice simple little fix.

  Kirk

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Re: zinf problems

[Janina Sajka]

I wouldn't unless you're already familiar with Pine. If you've not used
Pine, just skip it and go straight to mutt.


Kirk Reiser writes:
> From: Kirk Reiser <kirk@braille.uwo.ca>
> 
> I cannot speak to the alsa driver working or not working but decided
> to get to the bottom of the no sound problem in zinf.  The bug reports
> filed with debian and the zinf web site are less than helpful.
> 
> So the answer is easy and absolutely not obvious, in the preferences
> file in the .zinf directory of your home directory there is a variable
> softmix.  It is set to true by default.  Setting softmix to false will
> clear up the zinf non-sound problem.
> 
> How I finally discovered the answer is a long story but it involved
> compiling and debugging and other usual bug hunting bullshit.  All
> that for a nice simple little fix.
> 
>   Kirk
> 
> -- 
> 
> Kirk Reiser				The Computer Braille Facility
> e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca		University of Western Ontario
> phone: (519) 661-3061
> 
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Re: zinf problems

[Janina Sajka]

ops. Sorry folks. I replied to the wrong message. Slippery fingres
<grin>

Janina Sajka writes:
> From: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
> 
> I wouldn't unless you're already familiar with Pine. If you've not used
> Pine, just skip it and go straight to mutt.
> 
> 
> Kirk Reiser writes:
> > From: Kirk Reiser <kirk@braille.uwo.ca>
> > 
> > I cannot speak to the alsa driver working or not working but decided
> > to get to the bottom of the no sound problem in zinf.  The bug reports
> > filed with debian and the zinf web site are less than helpful.
> > 
> > So the answer is easy and absolutely not obvious, in the preferences
> > file in the .zinf directory of your home directory there is a variable
> > softmix.  It is set to true by default.  Setting softmix to false will
> > clear up the zinf non-sound problem.
> > 
> > How I finally discovered the answer is a long story but it involved
> > compiling and debugging and other usual bug hunting bullshit.  All
> > that for a nice simple little fix.
> > 
> >   Kirk
> > 
> > -- 
> > 
> > Kirk Reiser				The Computer Braille Facility
> > e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca		University of Western Ontario
> > phone: (519) 661-3061
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
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> 	
> 				Janina Sajka, Director
> 				Technology Research and Development
> 				Governmental Relations Group
> 				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> 
> Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175
> 
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				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

Re: zinf problems

[philwh]

Hi.
Many thanks Kirk.
your work paid off for me, zinf is now working
using the kernel sound driver.

phil

On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 06:10:44AM -0400, Kirk Reiser wrote:
> I cannot speak to the alsa driver working or not working but decided
> to get to the bottom of the no sound problem in zinf.  The bug reports
> filed with debian and the zinf web site are less than helpful.
> 
> So the answer is easy and absolutely not obvious, in the preferences
> file in the .zinf directory of your home directory there is a variable
> softmix.  It is set to true by default.  Setting softmix to false will
> clear up the zinf non-sound problem.
> 
> How I finally discovered the answer is a long story but it involved
> compiling and debugging and other usual bug hunting bullshit.  All
> that for a nice simple little fix.
> 
>   Kirk
> 
> -- 
> 
> Kirk Reiser				The Computer Braille Facility
> e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca		University of Western Ontario
> phone: (519) 661-3061
> 
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