* speakup and usb to serial converters @ Deedra Waters ` Kirk Reiser 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Deedra Waters @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I've had several people ask me if speakup will work with usb to serial converters. Since I don't exactly know the answer to this, i figured I would ask here. If it does not work with theese devices, would there be a way to get it to work with them? The reason I ask is because a lot of the laptops I'm seeing lately are removing serial ports from their laptops, or the price for a laptop with a serial port is insanely high, and by that I mean around $1600 to $1800. For some people that's not a bad price, but when you compaire it to 800 for simple small laptops, that's expensive. If someone could give me feedback on this, I would greatly appreciate it.. Thanks! - -- Gentoo Linux: Gentoo infrastructure, dmwaters@gentoo.org, http://www.gentoo.org Freenode staff member: dmwaters@freenode.net , http://www.freenode.net -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFADDPbU5AGPOTGNc8RAs1bAKCUw8Q12VPqVW5U4g0TOCygURmDxQCcCq47 4/RilIGEIIlD67721w9mf58= =mPBe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: speakup and usb to serial converters speakup and usb to serial converters Deedra Waters @ ` Kirk Reiser ` Deedra Waters 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Kirk Reiser @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I cannot see how speakup could work with a USB to serial converter unless the USB port happened to be exactly what a standard uart provided in exactly the same place. In other words, no. Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: speakup and usb to serial converters ` Kirk Reiser @ ` Deedra Waters ` Jared ` Charles Crawford 0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Deedra Waters @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hmm, this is going to rule out being able to use speakup on most of the low priced laptops soon. Del has dropped all serial ports on their laptops, and gateway is right behind them. As near as I can tell, pretty much all of the newer macs also do not have that serial support. The only way I can see around that problem is have a sited person go through the install, and then use software speech with speakup. Does anyone have any ideas here? My main reasoning behind asking theese questions is that the state wants to replace my laptop when I go back to school... They get some sort of deal through del, so that's who they go with. Unfortunately the machine won't have a serial port... On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Kirk Reiser wrote: > Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 17:00:41 -0500 > From: Kirk Reiser <kirk@braille.uwo.ca> > Reply-To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Subject: Re: speakup and usb to serial converters > > I cannot see how speakup could work with a USB to serial converter > unless the USB port happened to be exactly what a standard uart > provided in exactly the same place. In other words, no. > > Kirk > > - -- Gentoo Linux: Gentoo infrastructure, dmwaters@gentoo.org, http://www.gentoo.org Freenode staff member: dmwaters@freenode.net , http://www.freenode.net -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFADFtRU5AGPOTGNc8RAh07AKCSYh7No4D2JKIlxEhlhpJiZJuDUwCcDS2i KPwIAKfWvYOyIPAfdzWVE3c= =BRbN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* RE: speakup and usb to serial converters ` Deedra Waters @ ` Jared ` Charles Crawford 1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Jared @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Not sure, but what about a pcmcia card that has a cerial port on it? I've sceen it advertised that some support linux. -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Deedra Waters Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 5:34 PM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: Re: speakup and usb to serial converters -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hmm, this is going to rule out being able to use speakup on most of the low priced laptops soon. Del has dropped all serial ports on their laptops, and gateway is right behind them. As near as I can tell, pretty much all of the newer macs also do not have that serial support. The only way I can see around that problem is have a sited person go through the install, and then use software speech with speakup. Does anyone have any ideas here? My main reasoning behind asking theese questions is that the state wants to replace my laptop when I go back to school... They get some sort of deal through del, so that's who they go with. Unfortunately the machine won't have a serial port... On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Kirk Reiser wrote: > Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 17:00:41 -0500 > From: Kirk Reiser <kirk@braille.uwo.ca> > Reply-To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Subject: Re: speakup and usb to serial converters > > I cannot see how speakup could work with a USB to serial converter > unless the USB port happened to be exactly what a standard uart > provided in exactly the same place. In other words, no. > > Kirk > > - -- Gentoo Linux: Gentoo infrastructure, dmwaters@gentoo.org, http://www.gentoo.org Freenode staff member: dmwaters@freenode.net , http://www.freenode.net -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFADFtRU5AGPOTGNc8RAh07AKCSYh7No4D2JKIlxEhlhpJiZJuDUwCcDS2i KPwIAKfWvYOyIPAfdzWVE3c= =BRbN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: speakup and usb to serial converters ` Deedra Waters ` Jared @ ` Charles Crawford ` Deedra Waters 1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Charles Crawford @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Argue that the serial port is an accomodation to your disability under Secs 504 and 508. You can tell them that Windows does not afford you equal access or facilitation because it is not text based, breaks, and is not fully accessible. On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Deedra Waters wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hmm, this is going to rule out being able to use speakup on most of the low priced laptops soon. Del has dropped all serial ports on their laptops, and gateway is right behind them. As near as I can tell, pretty much all of the newer macs also do not have that serial support. > > The only way I can see around that problem is have a sited person go through the install, and then use software speech with speakup. Does anyone have any ideas here? > > My main reasoning behind asking theese questions is that the state wants to replace my laptop when I go back to school... They get some sort of deal through del, so that's who they go with. Unfortunately the machine won't have a serial port... > On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Kirk Reiser wrote: > > > Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 17:00:41 -0500 > > From: Kirk Reiser <kirk@braille.uwo.ca> > > Reply-To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > > Subject: Re: speakup and usb to serial converters > > > > I cannot see how speakup could work with a USB to serial converter > > unless the USB port happened to be exactly what a standard uart > > provided in exactly the same place. In other words, no. > > > > Kirk > > > > > > - -- > Gentoo Linux: Gentoo infrastructure, dmwaters@gentoo.org, > http://www.gentoo.org > > Freenode staff member: dmwaters@freenode.net , http://www.freenode.net > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFADFtRU5AGPOTGNc8RAh07AKCSYh7No4D2JKIlxEhlhpJiZJuDUwCcDS2i > KPwIAKfWvYOyIPAfdzWVE3c= > =BRbN > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- -- Charlie Crawford ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: speakup and usb to serial converters ` Charles Crawford @ ` Deedra Waters ` Glenn Ervin at Home 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Deedra Waters @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I tried seeing if gateway would sell me a laptop with a serial port, their response was "sure, for $2000." Basically what I'm noticing is that the state is buying laptops for $700, which is cheap, and so they won't cough up another $1300 for one with a serial port reguardless of wether I need it or not.Since this is something I would use for school, I can't argue the linux thing too well either since I'm going to need ie for most of the student login sites for classes, and I'll need word for writing papers and several other things along those lines. Linux works perfectly for me for almost everything, but those are the two things that it does not do well, and I guess since the state is paying for all of this I can't argue it too much, though I'd still like to make it a duel boot system:p but I can't really do that with no serial port, heh Oh well, I'm done ranting:) On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Charles Crawford wrote: > Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 21:21:00 -0500 (EST) > From: Charles Crawford <ccrawford@Starpower.net> > Reply-To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Subject: Re: speakup and usb to serial converters > > Argue that the serial port is an accomodation to your disability under > Secs 504 and 508. You can tell them that Windows does not afford you > equal access or facilitation because it is not text based, breaks, and > is not fully accessible. > > On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Deedra Waters wrote: > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Hmm, this is going to rule out being able to use speakup on most of the low priced laptops soon. Del has dropped all serial ports on their laptops, and gateway is right behind them. As near as I can tell, pretty much all of the newer macs also do not have that serial support. > > > > The only way I can see around that problem is have a sited person go through the install, and then use software speech with speakup. Does anyone have any ideas here? > > > > My main reasoning behind asking theese questions is that the state wants to replace my laptop when I go back to school... They get some sort of deal through del, so that's who they go with. Unfortunately the machine won't have a serial port... > > On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Kirk Reiser wrote: > > > > > Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 17:00:41 -0500 > > > From: Kirk Reiser <kirk@braille.uwo.ca> > > > Reply-To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > > > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > > > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > > > Subject: Re: speakup and usb to serial converters > > > > > > I cannot see how speakup could work with a USB to serial converter > > > unless the USB port happened to be exactly what a standard uart > > > provided in exactly the same place. In other words, no. > > > > > > Kirk > > > > > > > > > > - -- > > Gentoo Linux: Gentoo infrastructure, dmwaters@gentoo.org, > > http://www.gentoo.org > > > > Freenode staff member: dmwaters@freenode.net , http://www.freenode.net > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) > > > > iD8DBQFADFtRU5AGPOTGNc8RAh07AKCSYh7No4D2JKIlxEhlhpJiZJuDUwCcDS2i > > KPwIAKfWvYOyIPAfdzWVE3c= > > =BRbN > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > - -- Gentoo Linux: Gentoo infrastructure, dmwaters@gentoo.org, http://www.gentoo.org Freenode staff member: dmwaters@freenode.net , http://www.freenode.net -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFADLERU5AGPOTGNc8RAlooAKCs/2tNz8BHNTyB0cxDVcdveiwWhQCfR/E0 jr36X95BdC/81v69nfMSyIc= =59Kt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: speakup and usb to serial converters ` Deedra Waters @ ` Glenn Ervin at Home 0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Glenn Ervin at Home @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I'll bet that soon enough there will be some company making Linux drivers for their USB to serial adapters. Glenn. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deedra Waters" <dmwaters@gentoo.org> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 10:39 PM Subject: Re: speakup and usb to serial converters -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I tried seeing if gateway would sell me a laptop with a serial port, their response was "sure, for $2000." Basically what I'm noticing is that the state is buying laptops for $700, which is cheap, and so they won't cough up another $1300 for one with a serial port reguardless of wether I need it or not.Since this is something I would use for school, I can't argue the linux thing too well either since I'm going to need ie for most of the student login sites for classes, and I'll need word for writing papers and several other things along those lines. Linux works perfectly for me for almost everything, but those are the two things that it does not do well, and I guess since the state is paying for all of this I can't argue it too much, though I'd still like to make it a duel boot system:p but I can't really do that with no serial port, heh Oh well, I'm done ranting:) On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Charles Crawford wrote: > Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 21:21:00 -0500 (EST) > From: Charles Crawford <ccrawford@Starpower.net> > Reply-To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Subject: Re: speakup and usb to serial converters > > Argue that the serial port is an accomodation to your disability under > Secs 504 and 508. You can tell them that Windows does not afford you > equal access or facilitation because it is not text based, breaks, and > is not fully accessible. > > On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Deedra Waters wrote: > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Hmm, this is going to rule out being able to use speakup on most of the low priced laptops soon. Del has dropped all serial ports on their laptops, and gateway is right behind them. As near as I can tell, pretty much all of the newer macs also do not have that serial support. > > > > The only way I can see around that problem is have a sited person go through the install, and then use software speech with speakup. Does anyone have any ideas here? > > > > My main reasoning behind asking theese questions is that the state wants to replace my laptop when I go back to school... They get some sort of deal through del, so that's who they go with. Unfortunately the machine won't have a serial port... > > On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Kirk Reiser wrote: > > > > > Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 17:00:41 -0500 > > > From: Kirk Reiser <kirk@braille.uwo.ca> > > > Reply-To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > > > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > > > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > > > Subject: Re: speakup and usb to serial converters > > > > > > I cannot see how speakup could work with a USB to serial converter > > > unless the USB port happened to be exactly what a standard uart > > > provided in exactly the same place. In other words, no. > > > > > > Kirk > > > > > > > > > > - -- > > Gentoo Linux: Gentoo infrastructure, dmwaters@gentoo.org, > > http://www.gentoo.org > > > > Freenode staff member: dmwaters@freenode.net , http://www.freenode.net > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) > > > > iD8DBQFADFtRU5AGPOTGNc8RAh07AKCSYh7No4D2JKIlxEhlhpJiZJuDUwCcDS2i > > KPwIAKfWvYOyIPAfdzWVE3c= > > =BRbN > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > - -- Gentoo Linux: Gentoo infrastructure, dmwaters@gentoo.org, http://www.gentoo.org Freenode staff member: dmwaters@freenode.net , http://www.freenode.net -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFADLERU5AGPOTGNc8RAlooAKCs/2tNz8BHNTyB0cxDVcdveiwWhQCfR/E0 jr36X95BdC/81v69nfMSyIc= =59Kt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
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