speakup and usb to serial converters

speakup and usb to serial converters

[Deedra Waters]

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I've had several people ask me if speakup will work with usb to serial converters. Since I don't exactly know the answer to this, i figured I would ask here.

If it does not work with theese devices, would there be a way to get it to work with them? The reason I ask is because a lot of the laptops I'm seeing lately are removing serial ports from their laptops, or the price for a laptop with a serial port is insanely high, and by that I mean around $1600 to $1800. For some people that's not a bad price, but when you compaire it to 800 for simple small laptops, that's expensive.

If someone could give me feedback on this, I would greatly appreciate it.. Thanks!


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Re: speakup and usb to serial converters

[Kirk Reiser]

I cannot see how speakup could work with a USB to serial converter
unless the USB port happened to be exactly what a standard uart
provided in exactly the same place.  In other words, no.

  Kirk

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Re: speakup and usb to serial converters

[Deedra Waters]

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Hmm, this is going to rule out being able to use speakup on most of the low priced laptops soon. Del  has dropped all serial ports on their laptops, and gateway is right  behind them. As  near as I can tell, pretty much all of the newer macs also do not have that serial support.

The only way I can see around that problem is have a sited person go through  the install, and then use software speech with speakup. Does anyone have any ideas here?

My main reasoning behind asking theese questions is that the state wants to replace my laptop when I go back to school... They get some sort of deal  through del, so that's who they go with. Unfortunately the machine won't have a serial port...
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Kirk Reiser wrote:

> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 17:00:41 -0500
> From: Kirk Reiser <kirk@braille.uwo.ca>
> Reply-To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
>     <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Subject: Re: speakup and usb to serial converters
> 
> I cannot see how speakup could work with a USB to serial converter
> unless the USB port happened to be exactly what a standard uart
> provided in exactly the same place.  In other words, no.
> 
>   Kirk
> 
> 

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RE: speakup and usb to serial converters

[Jared]

Not sure, but what about a pcmcia card that has a cerial port on it? I've
sceen it advertised that some support linux.

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[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Deedra Waters
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To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
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Hmm, this is going to rule out being able to use speakup on most of the low
priced laptops soon. Del  has dropped all serial ports on their laptops, and
gateway is right  behind them. As  near as I can tell, pretty much all of
the newer macs also do not have that serial support.

The only way I can see around that problem is have a sited person go through
the install, and then use software speech with speakup. Does anyone have any
ideas here?

My main reasoning behind asking theese questions is that the state wants to
replace my laptop when I go back to school... They get some sort of deal
through del, so that's who they go with. Unfortunately the machine won't
have a serial port...
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Kirk Reiser wrote:

> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 17:00:41 -0500
> From: Kirk Reiser <kirk@braille.uwo.ca>
> Reply-To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
>     <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Subject: Re: speakup and usb to serial converters
>
> I cannot see how speakup could work with a USB to serial converter
> unless the USB port happened to be exactly what a standard uart
> provided in exactly the same place.  In other words, no.
>
>   Kirk
>
>

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Re: speakup and usb to serial converters

[Charles Crawford]

Argue that the serial port is an accomodation to your disability under 
Secs 504 and 508.  You can tell them that Windows does not afford you 
equal access or facilitation because it is not text based, breaks, and 
is not fully accessible.

On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Deedra Waters wrote:

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> Hmm, this is going to rule out being able to use speakup on most of the low priced laptops soon. Del  has dropped all serial ports on their laptops, and gateway is right  behind them. As  near as I can tell, pretty much all of the newer macs also do not have that serial support.
> 
> The only way I can see around that problem is have a sited person go through  the install, and then use software speech with speakup. Does anyone have any ideas here?
> 
> My main reasoning behind asking theese questions is that the state wants to replace my laptop when I go back to school... They get some sort of deal  through del, so that's who they go with. Unfortunately the machine won't have a serial port...
> On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Kirk Reiser wrote:
> 
> > Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 17:00:41 -0500
> > From: Kirk Reiser <kirk@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Reply-To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> >     <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Subject: Re: speakup and usb to serial converters
> > 
> > I cannot see how speakup could work with a USB to serial converter
> > unless the USB port happened to be exactly what a standard uart
> > provided in exactly the same place.  In other words, no.
> > 
> >   Kirk
> > 
> > 
> 
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Re: speakup and usb to serial converters

[Deedra Waters]

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I tried seeing if gateway would sell me a laptop with a serial port, their response was "sure, for $2000." Basically what I'm noticing is that the state is buying laptops for $700, which is cheap, and so they won't cough up another $1300 for one with a serial port reguardless of wether I need it or not.Since this is something I would use for school, I can't argue the linux thing too well either since I'm going to need ie for most of  the student login sites for classes, and I'll need word for writing papers and several other things along those lines. Linux works perfectly for me for almost everything, but those are the two things that it does not do well, and I guess since the state is paying for all of this I can't argue it too much, though I'd still like to make it a duel boot system:p but I can't really do that with no serial port, heh

Oh well, I'm done ranting:)


On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Charles Crawford wrote:

> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 21:21:00 -0500 (EST)
> From: Charles Crawford <ccrawford@Starpower.net>
> Reply-To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
>     <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Subject: Re: speakup and usb to serial converters
> 
> Argue that the serial port is an accomodation to your disability under 
> Secs 504 and 508.  You can tell them that Windows does not afford you 
> equal access or facilitation because it is not text based, breaks, and 
> is not fully accessible.
> 
> On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Deedra Waters wrote:
> 
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> > Hmm, this is going to rule out being able to use speakup on most of the low priced laptops soon. Del  has dropped all serial ports on their laptops, and gateway is right  behind them. As  near as I can tell, pretty much all of the newer macs also do not have that serial support.
> > 
> > The only way I can see around that problem is have a sited person go through  the install, and then use software speech with speakup. Does anyone have any ideas here?
> > 
> > My main reasoning behind asking theese questions is that the state wants to replace my laptop when I go back to school... They get some sort of deal  through del, so that's who they go with. Unfortunately the machine won't have a serial port...
> > On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Kirk Reiser wrote:
> > 
> > > Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 17:00:41 -0500
> > > From: Kirk Reiser <kirk@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Reply-To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> > >     <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Subject: Re: speakup and usb to serial converters
> > > 
> > > I cannot see how speakup could work with a USB to serial converter
> > > unless the USB port happened to be exactly what a standard uart
> > > provided in exactly the same place.  In other words, no.
> > > 
> > >   Kirk
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
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Re: speakup and usb to serial converters

[Glenn Ervin at Home]

I'll bet that soon enough there will be some  company making Linux drivers
for their USB to serial adapters.
Glenn.

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I tried seeing if gateway would sell me a laptop with a serial port, their
response was "sure, for $2000." Basically what I'm noticing is that the
state is buying laptops for $700, which is cheap, and so they won't cough up
another $1300 for one with a serial port reguardless of wether I need it or
not.Since this is something I would use for school, I can't argue the linux
thing too well either since I'm going to need ie for most of  the student
login sites for classes, and I'll need word for writing papers and several
other things along those lines. Linux works perfectly for me for almost
everything, but those are the two things that it does not do well, and I
guess since the state is paying for all of this I can't argue it too much,
though I'd still like to make it a duel boot system:p but I can't really do
that with no serial port, heh

Oh well, I'm done ranting:)


On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Charles Crawford wrote:

> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 21:21:00 -0500 (EST)
> From: Charles Crawford <ccrawford@Starpower.net>
> Reply-To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
>     <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Subject: Re: speakup and usb to serial converters
>
> Argue that the serial port is an accomodation to your disability under
> Secs 504 and 508.  You can tell them that Windows does not afford you
> equal access or facilitation because it is not text based, breaks, and
> is not fully accessible.
>
> On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Deedra Waters wrote:
>
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> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > Hmm, this is going to rule out being able to use speakup on most of the
low priced laptops soon. Del  has dropped all serial ports on their laptops,
and gateway is right  behind them. As  near as I can tell, pretty much all
of the newer macs also do not have that serial support.
> >
> > The only way I can see around that problem is have a sited person go
through  the install, and then use software speech with speakup. Does anyone
have any ideas here?
> >
> > My main reasoning behind asking theese questions is that the state wants
to replace my laptop when I go back to school... They get some sort of deal
through del, so that's who they go with. Unfortunately the machine won't
have a serial port...
> > On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Kirk Reiser wrote:
> >
> > > Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 17:00:41 -0500
> > > From: Kirk Reiser <kirk@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Reply-To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> > >     <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Subject: Re: speakup and usb to serial converters
> > >
> > > I cannot see how speakup could work with a USB to serial converter
> > > unless the USB port happened to be exactly what a standard uart
> > > provided in exactly the same place.  In other words, no.
> > >
> > >   Kirk
> > >
> > >
> >
> > - -- 
> > Gentoo Linux: Gentoo infrastructure, dmwaters@gentoo.org,
> > http://www.gentoo.org
> >
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