Re: Some impressions on Linux

Re: Some impressions on Linux

[Chris]

OK this may be benefitial to me:

how are they structured, and how do I go about learning how they are
structured?


Also, can someone give me an idea of what is different about the man command
verses the info command and maybe say I want to look up cp for copy, then
how would the info command for that be done?  i'm assuming

info cp?


Chris.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: Some impressions on Linux


> Hi, Jes:
>
> Sounds right to me.
>
> As a worthy next step you might want to take note of the structure of
> man pages. Figuring out how man pages are put together will help you get
> to the part you care aabout more quickly every time you use a man page.
>
>
> Jes and guide dog Harley writes:
> > From: "Jes and guide dog Harley" <jesman598@triad.rr.com>
> >
> > Hi again all,
> > I have some initial impressions about Linux that I would like TO SHARE
WITH THIS LIST> I want to know if I have a basic good
> > knowledge of learning Linux. First, from reading documentation, Linux is
an operating system where you, the user have full, 100%
> > control. It seems to me that even though the configuration files may be
tricky to edit or understand at first, with practice and
> > time you will get the hang of it. It also appears to me that the first
thing you should do besides setting the root password and
> > the user account is to use the man command a lot, and read
documentation. Am I on the right track or not?
> >
> >
> >
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> Governmental Relations Group
> American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
>
> Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
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Some impressions on Linux

[Jes and guide dog Harley]

Hi again all,
I have some initial impressions about Linux that I would like TO SHARE WITH THIS LIST> I want to know if I have a basic good
knowledge of learning Linux. First, from reading documentation, Linux is an operating system where you, the user have full, 100%
control. It seems to me that even though the configuration files may be tricky to edit or understand at first, with practice and
time you will get the hang of it. It also appears to me that the first thing you should do besides setting the root password and
the user account is to use the man command a lot, and read documentation. Am I on the right track or not?

Re: Some impressions on Linux

[Joseph C. Lininger]

yes I would say your coming along nicely with your goal of learning Linux. I
would suggest www.tldp .org as an excelent resource. Also, man pages are
good, but don't forget about the info command. Some programs have more
extensive documentation in this format.
--
Joseph C. Lininger
jbahm@pcdesk.net
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jes and guide dog Harley" <jesman598@triad.rr.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 5:02 PM
Subject: Some impressions on Linux


> Hi again all,
> I have some initial impressions about Linux that I would like TO SHARE
WITH THIS LIST> I want to know if I have a basic good
> knowledge of learning Linux. First, from reading documentation, Linux is
an operating system where you, the user have full, 100%
> control. It seems to me that even though the configuration files may be
tricky to edit or understand at first, with practice and
> time you will get the hang of it. It also appears to me that the first
thing you should do besides setting the root password and
> the user account is to use the man command a lot, and read documentation.
Am I on the right track or not?
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: Some impressions on Linux

[Charles Crawford]

Yup, you are on the right track.  I would also suggest going  to 
www.linux.org and checking out the zillion how to links tht are up 
there.  A number of them are vey well written and have helped me a great 
deal.

On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Jes and guide dog Harley wrote:

> Hi again all,
> I have some initial impressions about Linux that I would like TO SHARE WITH THIS LIST> I want to know if I have a basic good
> knowledge of learning Linux. First, from reading documentation, Linux is an operating system where you, the user have full, 100%
> control. It seems to me that even though the configuration files may be tricky to edit or understand at first, with practice and
> time you will get the hang of it. It also appears to me that the first thing you should do besides setting the root password and
> the user account is to use the man command a lot, and read documentation. Am I on the right track or not?
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

-- 
-- Charlie Crawford

Re: Some impressions on Linux

[Janina Sajka]

Hi, Jes:

Sounds right to me.

As a worthy next step you might want to take note of the structure of
man pages. Figuring out how man pages are put together will help you get
to the part you care aabout more quickly every time you use a man page.


Jes and guide dog Harley writes:
> From: "Jes and guide dog Harley" <jesman598@triad.rr.com>
> 
> Hi again all,
> I have some initial impressions about Linux that I would like TO SHARE WITH THIS LIST> I want to know if I have a basic good
> knowledge of learning Linux. First, from reading documentation, Linux is an operating system where you, the user have full, 100%
> control. It seems to me that even though the configuration files may be tricky to edit or understand at first, with practice and
> time you will get the hang of it. It also appears to me that the first thing you should do besides setting the root password and
> the user account is to use the man command a lot, and read documentation. Am I on the right track or not?
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

-- 
	
				Janina Sajka, Director
				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

Re: Some impressions on Linux

[Janina Sajka]

Well, I suppose the first thing to notice is that there are sections
with titles like "SYNOPSIS," and "DESCRIPTIONand SEE ALSO."

But, there's a lot more, and you can use man to find out about it:

man man

Notice, also, that learning how to use your pager is associated with
learning to use man, because man uses something else, namely a pager by
default, to show you its contents. So, you would want to learn:

man more

or better still:

man less

Now, here's another cool one that you'll want to pipe through more (or
less):

man man -k |less

Oh, and one more thing for our non-native English speakers, you can get
man output in languages other than English. Do the 'man man' thing to
find out how.


Chris writes:
> From: "Chris" <chris@mailvision.ath.cx>
> 
> OK this may be benefitial to me:
> 
> how are they structured, and how do I go about learning how they are
> structured?
> 
> 
> Also, can someone give me an idea of what is different about the man command
> verses the info command and maybe say I want to look up cp for copy, then
> how would the info command for that be done?  i'm assuming
> 
> info cp?
> 
> 
> Chris.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 11:52 AM
> Subject: Re: Some impressions on Linux
> 
> 
> > Hi, Jes:
> >
> > Sounds right to me.
> >
> > As a worthy next step you might want to take note of the structure of
> > man pages. Figuring out how man pages are put together will help you get
> > to the part you care aabout more quickly every time you use a man page.
> >
> >
> > Jes and guide dog Harley writes:
> > > From: "Jes and guide dog Harley" <jesman598@triad.rr.com>
> > >
> > > Hi again all,
> > > I have some initial impressions about Linux that I would like TO SHARE
> WITH THIS LIST> I want to know if I have a basic good
> > > knowledge of learning Linux. First, from reading documentation, Linux is
> an operating system where you, the user have full, 100%
> > > control. It seems to me that even though the configuration files may be
> tricky to edit or understand at first, with practice and
> > > time you will get the hang of it. It also appears to me that the first
> thing you should do besides setting the root password and
> > > the user account is to use the man command a lot, and read
> documentation. Am I on the right track or not?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> > --
> >
> > Janina Sajka, Director
> > Technology Research and Development
> > Governmental Relations Group
> > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> >
> > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 
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				Janina Sajka, Director
				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

Re: Some impressions on Linux

[Danny Crone]

I can tell you that the first part of the man page is generally a 
summary of the topic.

On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Chris wrote:

> OK this may be benefitial to me:
> 
> how are they structured, and how do I go about learning how they are
> structured?
> 
> 
> Also, can someone give me an idea of what is different about the man command
> verses the info command and maybe say I want to look up cp for copy, then
> how would the info command for that be done?  i'm assuming
> 
> info cp?
> 
> 
> Chris.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 11:52 AM
> Subject: Re: Some impressions on Linux
> 
> 
> > Hi, Jes:
> >
> > Sounds right to me.
> >
> > As a worthy next step you might want to take note of the structure of
> > man pages. Figuring out how man pages are put together will help you get
> > to the part you care aabout more quickly every time you use a man page.
> >
> >
> > Jes and guide dog Harley writes:
> > > From: "Jes and guide dog Harley" <jesman598@triad.rr.com>
> > >
> > > Hi again all,
> > > I have some initial impressions about Linux that I would like TO SHARE
> WITH THIS LIST> I want to know if I have a basic good
> > > knowledge of learning Linux. First, from reading documentation, Linux is
> an operating system where you, the user have full, 100%
> > > control. It seems to me that even though the configuration files may be
> tricky to edit or understand at first, with practice and
> > > time you will get the hang of it. It also appears to me that the first
> thing you should do besides setting the root password and
> > > the user account is to use the man command a lot, and read
> documentation. Am I on the right track or not?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> > --
> >
> > Janina Sajka, Director
> > Technology Research and Development
> > Governmental Relations Group
> > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> >
> > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 
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Re: Some impressions on Linux

[Janina Sajka]

> On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Chris wrote:
> 
> > Also, can someone give me an idea of what is different about the man command
> > verses the info command and maybe say I want to look up cp for copy, then
> > how would the info command for that be done?  i'm assuming
> > 
> > info cp?
> > 
Man is older than info. Man is more like a simple ASCII file, though it
isn't ASCII, exactly. Info is an early implementation of hyperlinking.
Of course, hyperlinks later became famous as on of the key features
provided by world wide web technology. Info is older than the web.

PS: You don't really need to ask the second part of the question above,
unless you can't get things working. There's no harm with testing your
theories, assumptions, and suppositions. In fact, it's advisable.

In fact, my not even going to answer, because you don't need me to.